PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT There is an error in the calculations in the video: At 3:33 I compared the wins of glowy ores to the loss of starry ores, which is not the correct ratio. If you win a war, you will ALSO GET 2.4X MORE Glowy Ores than Losing. The interpretation is the same -> Winning ores is still important I also completely didn't mention that you can get Starry Ores from the Wars as well - you get 2-3x more starry ores for winning than losing. I'm sorry that I missed these and did the wrong numbers for this particular thing, It's been a long weekend and a really busy one LOL. Thank you for @misikaro for catching the error. I hope you guys still enjoy the video!!
dont wanna be nerd but as indian iit aspirant i was thinkin if u use linaer programing to solve this max and min prob or claculus , ignore if u dont know by liking
There is a very clear difference in the old ores and the new ores. For starters the default ores are obtainable for users as long as you have troops. What I am trying to say is if a upgrade cost 22mil to upgrade if you wanted to you could grind for a whole day to get that loot as long as you have troops to dispose of. On the other hand there is the new ores which is hard capped daily and for wars (that also talk 2 days to do) is were the issue begins. it is extremely unrealistic to expect a f2p user or even someone who spends a little money buys to have hero that are both max level and has a maxed out ability. sure there may be no upgrade time on the hero gears, but that only encourages users to spend there money on these items because its instant. you could have a trash level hero with maxed out abilities if you can afford it (In my opinion i would rather have a maxed out ability over a hero level as more dps/hp comes from gears then upgrading your hero). now getting into the upgrades it is going to take a ton months to get a new hero gear to max because of how terrible the values for the loot is. this is clearly designed for people to spend money on the shiny ores as you receive much less of them but at the same time you are required more of when going through upgrades of gear. thus forth the game just like clash royal it is now p2w as the one thing that makes a hero useful (aka ability's) is now halted by the fact you that you do not have an efficient way to grind this loot out unless you pay. If you think otherwise let me know as the update has just come out but this is my take on it.
Welp even if you pay money you don’t get those ores. The hero equipment levels will truly show the players dedication, because it’ll probably take like a year to max them out if you grind your star bonuses and wars. Already someone in my clan was whining because he thought those update packs should have ores included.
I really agree, starting at a max th15 with lvl 1 equipment that isn’t the hero’s former abilities is such a drag. You basically have to catch up with a th 8 as a th15 which is ridiculous
I would like to see a new version of the "How to Strategically Rush" video based on the TH16 update. Please do. Your mathematically based videos are the best in the genre.
a few ways to improve the ore distribution. 1. upgrading a hero gives ore It makes sense as it incentivizes upgrading the hero. Giving 1 or 2 levels for a piece of equipment of a similar lvl to the hero. 2. Builder base star bonus also gives ore. Gives people a reason to use it. I have maxed it. I only go in for the gold pass points and clan games now
@jee213_ cry in the corner with me. I am also pretty much Max heroes for th15. But I doubt this would be implemented for at least 3 months. But if they did it would greatly improve the reason to upgrade heroes
@@deonkriel1901 Treat it exactly like main base. Higher league means more ore with star bonus. BH10 will go higher leaving the lower leagues for lower BHs. Ore is a luxury resource making it far better to learn how to attack instead of baby dragon spam
Not sure if this can b calculated, but I was wondering about which of the equipments should b prioritized for each Hero when strategically rushing? What's the ideal hero level to equipment level ratio (if that matters at all)?
The thing that we're talking about is not about the ores but the equipment itself especially when they suddenly add equipment that you have to get with the gold pass
They never added hero equipment that need gold pass or that needs to be bought. I got my gauntlet and allready upgraded it to lvl 12 free to play. It took only 1 week and its allready decent lvl. They wont put equipment that you have to buy with money because they will lose 90% of free to play players in an instant.
Excellent breakdown as always. I think overall it's a good update for adding some variety to the game. Saw a couple comments here about how the equipment resources are time gated moreso than regular resources which I hadn't considered, but could be a negative. Will have to see how it plays out.
This update has made me glad Im in a good clan who wins wars, 46-4 out of our last 50. We war b2b so hopefully we will be able to make good progress with all the equipment.
@xProdigy__ Witch, Please! Tell em Space sent you. We have been doing 50v50 wars so be ready to go. Friendly challenges required before you war. We have another clan for minis and heros down. Everyone will be back from cwl tomorrow.
i suggest for us goldpass and free to play players is maximize equipment first because now the hero potion will get you to max lvls depending on your townhall but your equipment levels doesnt benefits from the potion. use it for CWL tho and not for normal wars
I would like you to make a video explaining the latest strategic rushes in light of the TH16 update. I would like to see one that explains each TH as you did before.
"If the default level of a hero's equipment is the same as the hero's level, should I wait until the hero reaches their maximum level corresponding to the town hall level before building the blacksmith? This way, I won't have to upgrade the hero's equipment separately since it will be automatically upgraded as per the hero's level. Will this work?"
This is a super interesting proposition. What it will depend on is what the cost of getting that equipment upgraded is, if that makes sense. This is a great point and I will definitely answer it after doing some math for the hero levels mattering video
It wont work if you want to use the new abilities. They will be at lvl 1 regardless of your hero levels. I already built the blacksmith. But for old abilities it will work
The P2W issue is primarily focused around starry ores and epic equipment. Epic equipment is event only, and hence limited time. Starry ore has been said to also mainly be available only in events. We have no idea how we will obtain the epic equipment or starry ore, and it could end up being infeasible for f2p players. Extreme example: you get 1 starry ore per star you get attacking during the event. New equipment is around for a week, and costs 300 ores. That's AT LEAST 100 attacks in a week, PLUS EXTRA to upgrade the equipment. I don't even do 25 attacks on a week.l because I simply don't have time/infinite training potions. Oh, and this item singlehandedly breaks CoC balance and the next TH will be exclusively balanced around it. Oh, and it's never coming back, so if you don't get it in this one week you'll kiss goodbye to your chances of ever being able to play CoC at a competitive level ever again. So yeah, your choices are pay, or never 3* a base again once you reach TH17 I'm not saying that this WILL happen. I'm saying that this feature easily has the most POTENTIAL to be P2W out of any feature in the game. It all comes down to how greedy Supercell get.
I was able to survive 2 months in low legend league as a th13 with limited time, all i needed to do is make maximum use of the shields and learn to 2 star th 15 and 16, i can make 4 to 6 atacks per shield if i only atack when i have 2 full armies and the hero second lifes ready when i log in, then wait for 2 more hours and atack again, meaning i only needed to log in for 3 minutes per hour, and i dont even need to look for resources as the league bonus are enough
I'd recommend anyone at TH15 or 16 to stay in Legend League and learn how to attack. This is because you can't lose loot in LL. Keeping as much loot as possible is really important a that level, and the upgrades take so long at that level anyways, that doing 6 attacks a day will still get you to max storages by the time you are ready for another upgrade.
This. Legends league has always been the best way to get loot for me. I've been there for 3 years and never had a problem maxing everything on 6-8 attacks per day
I hate legends league so much because 590k per attack is pathetic if u ask me and 8 attacks a day is an issue sometimes, the loot in legends league needs to be buffed, right now i stay at titans 4800-4900 and i get atleast 800k to 1.2m per attack not including bonuses
@@Violate.. that takes a lot of time. I find 8 mil per day is plenty to keep all 6 builders busy and max out walls. Loot has never been an issue and I haven’t left legends league in several years
im th 12 in titan and thats the good place to be tbh because loot really doesnt matter much when your mostly waiting on upgrades to finish rather than being held back by loot and you only want to mass farm once everything but your walls and heros are maxed
In my clan....i suggested to make a new ore farming clan . That clan will be joined by all the players who arent active war participants or spclly HAVE THEIR HEROES ON UPGRADE. Since without heroes it will tough to win wars...and currently everyone will want to play war for ores even if they dont have heroes , which might end up affecting the war log of a clan with tons of losses. So , in our clan....when people have heroes can play war in the main clan , and when no heroes they can just simply play war in the other clan where they can just go complete the 2 attacks and come back in the main clan for rest of the day to get donation and stuffs
@@Marshy2020 well if u want u could join clans like that.... i think atleast some other clans will do that..... If nothing else u and any of your can joins ours as well when we make it😂 Since ofcourse the wont be getting filled ... So anyone can join us and participate to get atleast the minimum amount of ores even after loosing wars
Hero levels seem less important now. The days of grinding not stop for 5 levels was to increase the ability. Now it is just small HP and DPS increases... imortant... bit less now. You now have to upgrade equipment for the ability... and those dam gauntlets have kept me from maxing hero abilities of any hero (black Smith currently going to 7 so will be able to get on that in 4 days)
Yes except for the fact that if your heroes were not maxed out before you built the Blacksmith you get really low gear levels. On my Th14 with maxed heroes they all got +15 gears to start with. On my Th13 with level 50-60 heroes they all got level 8 and 9 and 10 gears and lvl 4 gears for royal champion. I don't even want to build the blacksmith on any other lower accounts because the amount of gear levels you lose is insane in terms of ORES COST. If you aren't TH14 or TH15 with maxed out heroes then building the blacksmith will actually lose you tens of thousands of ORES just to get the gears on par with the hero levels later.
Hi, I didn’t know you channel but this is the first video I see and you talk about all the tricky things I was asking myself and what you are talking about can’t be found anywhere else on ytb especially how to deal with heroes upgrade making war almost impossible to win ! Very interesting really, thank you !
Little trick I've been doing which works great: U can just get over 5k trophies, then ur technically in legends league even if u dont sign up for it. Now u just have to wait that someone attacks you and puts you below 5k Trophies again so you can attack normally. Now u will get the legends league star bonus for attacking, as long as you dont drop below 4.900 again without beeing singed up for legends league! (So you can get the best star bonus and still attack as many times a day as you want)
Personally, as a th13 its quite easy to maintain Titan, i have never had issues, or any stress. Also since currently its easy to push trophies with ram riders and cookie, i would say if anyone wants to do so, now is the best time.
Bro now that the hero potion boosts your heroes to max level, is it still worth it to upgrade them? Wouldnt be easier to just stack hero potions for CWL?
It kinda goes against the purpose of the game, to have a strong base and strong army, if ur Heroes are only strong for War. Plus it's not satisfying lol
@@amamapapsneo5635 For me, the hero grind wasn´t any fun at all and it´ll never gonna stop so a game like that isn´t worth playing. Since i commented, I´ve been buying potions and never upgrading my heroes unless i must spend a book or have extra dark elixir and believe me, im enjoying the game like i never did before + doing very well at war and clan league. Would recommend 👌
Before upgrading my townhall 11 to townhall 12, I pushed to low legend league for that juicy x4 star bonus. 😂 And now going to townhall 13 I'm still doing the same strategy now 😂
I think the buffed hero potions will factor in heavily for people deciding whether to grind hero levels or participate in wars to upgrade abilities. Since all my accounts are th13+, I see much more value in getting those new abilities unlocked and upgraded faster so I'm going to hold off on hero upgrades and instead do back to back wars while using the 3 weekly hero potions from the trader that you can get with raid medals. It's the best of both worlds. Once I've upgraded the new abilties to becoming equal to the basic ones then I'll probably shift over to farming hero levels. If they do make the hero potions more rare as a consequence of the buff, I might do things differently.
@@walterwhite210 my clan has a 80% war win rate so I get more ores by doing wars there instead of by joining a fwa where you win 50% or less. there's no incentive to purposefully lose war anymore.
@@shahangilani farm war alliance. basically a huge network of clans that if they face against each other they let one or the other clan win so that people can get war loot without having heroes. if you win one war then next time you face a fwa, you'll be made to lose and that's how the cycle goes. tbh its a huge waste of time because the loot in war is not significant and you now get much more ores by just winning wars.
I really hope they make heroes available for wars while upgrading in some way. Id be fine with it even with some kind of disadvantage. Say if you are upgrading your hero, then in the war u can use it, but with -5 levels. Obviously they want to make money off of people taking longer to get their heroes up, but with the current way things are, its sort of frustrating warring back to back while trying to level heroes that take days and days to upgrade.
Pls compare hero upgrading time including abilities and equipment before and after update and without new equipment how did it compared to before update as they reduce HP and DMG
Im mid th12 but ive found that since i have time (2-4 hours a day) that low legends is great, i have giant arrow level 9 at this point with my mate still at 5 in gold league
great video ggs, but in my opinion you can get and stay pretty easily at Titan 1 or at least really high in trophies as any town hall, i'm th12 titan 1 and 2 attacks a day is ok to stay at this league for example
I discovered my happiness in this game was not warring, I haven’t warred for the last 2 town halls because people get to arsey about when and who you hit. Yes I’ve tried many clans until I decided to take my accounts and just grind. This update sucks for me 😂 I’d be interested to know the time difference it would take generating ores through non war activity vs with war activity
Someone on reddit suggested a builder potion that halts production of a building for 1 hour, where you lose the build progress for that time but you can use heroes for war. Seems like a good solution to me
To be honest if we're talking about optimum value, that blacksmith deal is not it. But if you spend money often, it also isn't a "bad deal". It's just also not necessary cuz you're only skipping 6 days of upgrades
@bdlegendcoc Please explain if you should use both attacks in Clan War, even if the enemy already got three-starred by your clan. So always use both attacks, or only if you can still get a star?
With the reworked heroes potion, does that mean i should skip the heroes grind and go right away to th16 first then grind them later? Assuming i can keep up with other stuff
I feel that going to titans is best or at least champs because at masters you get about 500 shiny ore compared to titan which is about 900+ the difference is totally mad and can't be ignored
My clan is doing everything goes clan wars, so even if your heroes are down as long as you attack your fine. We just really want to grind all the ore's
Me th 7,Ya Instreating😂 I have my own clan with my all 15 I'd with eatch towhall included Just start 15 to 15 war and enemy has 45 stars😅 So i don't even attack on their district😂
Your calculations for the war bonuses is actually incorrect by a factor of 2. They did a poor job wording how we gain resources from wars. The resources you gain are not based on your town hall weight, but actually the town hall weight of the player(s) you attack during war (similar to how the standard resources in war work as well). This still makes it incredibly dependent on the clans youre facing and makes it all the more important to get both of your war attacks in each time.
When i was in college i watch a bunch of indian dude teaching engineering topics better than my professor and now this dude says it all the info im searching for..thanks for very informative video btw new subscriber😅 hoping this channel grow
PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT
There is an error in the calculations in the video:
At 3:33 I compared the wins of glowy ores to the loss of starry ores, which is not the correct ratio.
If you win a war, you will ALSO GET 2.4X MORE Glowy Ores than Losing.
The interpretation is the same -> Winning ores is still important
I also completely didn't mention that you can get Starry Ores from the Wars as well - you get 2-3x more starry ores for winning than losing.
I'm sorry that I missed these and did the wrong numbers for this particular thing, It's been a long weekend and a really busy one LOL.
Thank you for @misikaro for catching the error. I hope you guys still enjoy the video!!
@@SoloFahd you didn't
dont wanna be nerd but as indian iit aspirant i was thinkin if u use linaer programing to solve this max and min prob or claculus , ignore if u dont know by liking
@@lovishnahar1807 please don't comment ever again
@@lovishnahar1807
Don’t want to assume but is “Indian iit aspirant” code for scammer?
- TH-cam Im only asking a question. 🙋♂️
@@natheno693 No, IIT is a top 10 college in india, so I'm assuming he is aiming to attend it.
There is a very clear difference in the old ores and the new ores. For starters the default ores are obtainable for users as long as you have troops. What I am trying to say is if a upgrade cost 22mil to upgrade if you wanted to you could grind for a whole day to get that loot as long as you have troops to dispose of. On the other hand there is the new ores which is hard capped daily and for wars (that also talk 2 days to do) is were the issue begins. it is extremely unrealistic to expect a f2p user or even someone who spends a little money buys to have hero that are both max level and has a maxed out ability. sure there may be no upgrade time on the hero gears, but that only encourages users to spend there money on these items because its instant. you could have a trash level hero with maxed out abilities if you can afford it (In my opinion i would rather have a maxed out ability over a hero level as more dps/hp comes from gears then upgrading your hero). now getting into the upgrades it is going to take a ton months to get a new hero gear to max because of how terrible the values for the loot is. this is clearly designed for people to spend money on the shiny ores as you receive much less of them but at the same time you are required more of when going through upgrades of gear. thus forth the game just like clash royal it is now p2w as the one thing that makes a hero useful (aka ability's) is now halted by the fact you that you do not have an efficient way to grind this loot out unless you pay. If you think otherwise let me know as the update has just come out but this is my take on it.
I think the point is it's supposed to be a slow progression while you lvl up heroes. Not max out ability early
I saw a video of lvl 1 hero’s with max abilities and a maxed army against a maxed out base. And he could still 3 star the base.
Welp even if you pay money you don’t get those ores. The hero equipment levels will truly show the players dedication, because it’ll probably take like a year to max them out if you grind your star bonuses and wars. Already someone in my clan was whining because he thought those update packs should have ores included.
It's meant to bring customisation to heroes
I really agree, starting at a max th15 with lvl 1 equipment that isn’t the hero’s former abilities is such a drag.
You basically have to catch up with a th 8 as a th15 which is ridiculous
I would like to see a new version of the "How to Strategically Rush" video based on the TH16 update. Please do.
Your mathematically based videos are the best in the genre.
Thanks so much! I appreciate it. And I'm going to make a new series for sure! Just need to wait till after the update cuz it's really busy right now
a few ways to improve the ore distribution.
1. upgrading a hero gives ore It makes sense as it incentivizes upgrading the hero. Giving 1 or 2 levels for a piece of equipment of a similar lvl to the hero.
2. Builder base star bonus also gives ore. Gives people a reason to use it. I have maxed it. I only go in for the gold pass points and clan games now
What am I supposed to do if my heroes are nearly maxed from TH15?
@jee213_ cry in the corner with me. I am also pretty much Max heroes for th15. But I doubt this would be implemented for at least 3 months. But if they did it would greatly improve the reason to upgrade heroes
True builder base always seems useless. They need add a reward for the main base when you play in builder base. Like the 6th builder hut.
@@deonkriel1901 Treat it exactly like main base. Higher league means more ore with star bonus. BH10 will go higher leaving the lower leagues for lower BHs.
Ore is a luxury resource making it far better to learn how to attack instead of baby dragon spam
@justwatching5284 true. Someone needs to let supercell know about this idea. Will definitely improve the game.
What other calculations do you guys need to see? I can do them but I need to know, so please comment or like other people's comments so I know!
Is there a hero ability level cap for each town hall or is it possible to just max out abilities in lower townhalls?
Say abt hero portion whuch can be used tin cwl for rushers,
Not sure if this can b calculated, but I was wondering about which of the equipments should b prioritized for each Hero when strategically rushing? What's the ideal hero level to equipment level ratio (if that matters at all)?
The thing that we're talking about is not about the ores but the equipment itself especially when they suddenly add equipment that you have to get with the gold pass
They never added hero equipment that need gold pass or that needs to be bought. I got my gauntlet and allready upgraded it to lvl 12 free to play. It took only 1 week and its allready decent lvl. They wont put equipment that you have to buy with money because they will lose 90% of free to play players in an instant.
Excellent breakdown as always. I think overall it's a good update for adding some variety to the game. Saw a couple comments here about how the equipment resources are time gated moreso than regular resources which I hadn't considered, but could be a negative. Will have to see how it plays out.
This update has made me glad Im in a good clan who wins wars, 46-4 out of our last 50. We war b2b so hopefully we will be able to make good progress with all the equipment.
I'm th13. Can i join
@wanjagger6012 We're not taking 13s anymore. 14 and up in our wars. Top half is all 16s now.
@@wanjagger6012elusive ones
@@randall517 clan name? I'm th 15 tryna find clan
@xProdigy__ Witch, Please! Tell em Space sent you. We have been doing 50v50 wars so be ready to go. Friendly challenges required before you war. We have another clan for minis and heros down. Everyone will be back from cwl tomorrow.
i suggest for us goldpass and free to play players is maximize equipment first because now the hero potion will get you to max lvls depending on your townhall but your equipment levels doesnt benefits from the potion. use it for CWL tho and not for normal wars
best explanation ever on the new update regarding the blacksmith and ores🙌🏻
Thank you!! I did what I could (:
I would like you to make a video explaining the latest strategic rushes in light of the TH16 update.
I would like to see one that explains each TH as you did before.
High level rage gem on warden with either heal aura or eternal tome, with dragons.
Yeah That's great equipment for warden
"If the default level of a hero's equipment is the same as the hero's level, should I wait until the hero reaches their maximum level corresponding to the town hall level before building the blacksmith? This way, I won't have to upgrade the hero's equipment separately since it will be automatically upgraded as per the hero's level. Will this work?"
This is a super interesting proposition. What it will depend on is what the cost of getting that equipment upgraded is, if that makes sense. This is a great point and I will definitely answer it after doing some math for the hero levels mattering video
@@bdlegendcoc if he does that he wouldn’t get anything from the star bonus until he upgrades. Also he might not like the default equipment
It wont work if you want to use the new abilities. They will be at lvl 1 regardless of your hero levels. I already built the blacksmith. But for old abilities it will work
The P2W issue is primarily focused around starry ores and epic equipment.
Epic equipment is event only, and hence limited time. Starry ore has been said to also mainly be available only in events. We have no idea how we will obtain the epic equipment or starry ore, and it could end up being infeasible for f2p players.
Extreme example: you get 1 starry ore per star you get attacking during the event. New equipment is around for a week, and costs 300 ores. That's AT LEAST 100 attacks in a week, PLUS EXTRA to upgrade the equipment. I don't even do 25 attacks on a week.l because I simply don't have time/infinite training potions.
Oh, and this item singlehandedly breaks CoC balance and the next TH will be exclusively balanced around it.
Oh, and it's never coming back, so if you don't get it in this one week you'll kiss goodbye to your chances of ever being able to play CoC at a competitive level ever again.
So yeah, your choices are pay, or never 3* a base again once you reach TH17
I'm not saying that this WILL happen. I'm saying that this feature easily has the most POTENTIAL to be P2W out of any feature in the game. It all comes down to how greedy Supercell get.
you can get starry ore from wars
Epic equipment is NOT event only. Already confirmed officially that there will be other ways of getting it.
I agree with u dude
@@vice214 No you can't
@@themanwithnothingtolose r u dumb? U get 6 starry ores per war attack if u win and half thatbif u lose
I was able to survive 2 months in low legend league as a th13 with limited time, all i needed to do is make maximum use of the shields and learn to 2 star th 15 and 16, i can make 4 to 6 atacks per shield if i only atack when i have 2 full armies and the hero second lifes ready when i log in, then wait for 2 more hours and atack again, meaning i only needed to log in for 3 minutes per hour, and i dont even need to look for resources as the league bonus are enough
And the only reason i got down was because of the lavaloon event, because of that the clouds were taking too long
I'd recommend anyone at TH15 or 16 to stay in Legend League and learn how to attack. This is because you can't lose loot in LL. Keeping as much loot as possible is really important a that level, and the upgrades take so long at that level anyways, that doing 6 attacks a day will still get you to max storages by the time you are ready for another upgrade.
This. Legends league has always been the best way to get loot for me. I've been there for 3 years and never had a problem maxing everything on 6-8 attacks per day
I hate legends league so much because 590k per attack is pathetic if u ask me and 8 attacks a day is an issue sometimes, the loot in legends league needs to be buffed, right now i stay at titans 4800-4900 and i get atleast 800k to 1.2m per attack not including bonuses
@@Violate.. that takes a lot of time. I find 8 mil per day is plenty to keep all 6 builders busy and max out walls. Loot has never been an issue and I haven’t left legends league in several years
@@IamClutchNorris ever since th16 came u find bases with high loot way more frequently than when it was th15 so it doesnt take long to find at all tbh
@@IamClutchNorris i also like the grind a lot of walls while in the process of keeping builders down and legends league just isnt good for walls
im th 12 in titan and thats the good place to be tbh because loot really doesnt matter much when your mostly waiting on upgrades to finish rather than being held back by loot and you only want to mass farm once everything but your walls and heros are maxed
In my clan....i suggested to make a new ore farming clan . That clan will be joined by all the players who arent active war participants or spclly HAVE THEIR HEROES ON UPGRADE. Since without heroes it will tough to win wars...and currently everyone will want to play war for ores even if they dont have heroes , which might end up affecting the war log of a clan with tons of losses. So , in our clan....when people have heroes can play war in the main clan , and when no heroes they can just simply play war in the other clan where they can just go complete the 2 attacks and come back in the main clan for rest of the day to get donation and stuffs
This is an interesting proposition...I wonder if a lot of clans will start doing this! It is going to be interesting to see
Sounds like a good option but doubt my clan would be up for it
@@Marshy2020 well if u want u could join clans like that.... i think atleast some other clans will do that..... If nothing else u and any of your can joins ours as well when we make it😂 Since ofcourse the wont be getting filled ... So anyone can join us and participate to get atleast the minimum amount of ores even after loosing wars
@@digantadas826 Yeah maybe i'll join another clan but i've been in this one for years they just don't war often outside of cwl
Hero levels seem less important now. The days of grinding not stop for 5 levels was to increase the ability. Now it is just small HP and DPS increases... imortant... bit less now.
You now have to upgrade equipment for the ability... and those dam gauntlets have kept me from maxing hero abilities of any hero (black Smith currently going to 7 so will be able to get on that in 4 days)
Yes except for the fact that if your heroes were not maxed out before you built the Blacksmith you get really low gear levels.
On my Th14 with maxed heroes they all got +15 gears to start with. On my Th13 with level 50-60 heroes they all got level 8 and 9 and 10 gears and lvl 4 gears for royal champion.
I don't even want to build the blacksmith on any other lower accounts because the amount of gear levels you lose is insane in terms of ORES COST.
If you aren't TH14 or TH15 with maxed out heroes then building the blacksmith will actually lose you tens of thousands of ORES just to get the gears on par with the hero levels later.
Wish I would have known this info
Needed this video! Thank you. I subbed! Keep it up
Ofcourse!!! Glad I could help (:
Hi, I didn’t know you channel but this is the first video I see and you talk about all the tricky things I was asking myself and what you are talking about can’t be found anywhere else on ytb especially how to deal with heroes upgrade making war almost impossible to win ! Very interesting really, thank you !
8:06 we're buying orders with this one!!
Perfect video just what i was looking for
Little trick I've been doing which works great:
U can just get over 5k trophies, then ur technically in legends league even if u dont sign up for it.
Now u just have to wait that someone attacks you and puts you below 5k Trophies again so you can attack normally.
Now u will get the legends league star bonus for attacking, as long as you dont drop below 4.900 again without beeing singed up for legends league! (So you can get the best star bonus and still attack as many times a day as you want)
Thanks for this vid. Only one that actually explains this! Just picked up a sub!!
Hey Legend, when do we get an updated rush to max guide. Would love to see and get a better idea on what to prioritise. Thank you!
Yo BD, does this change Tee's rushing guide at all?
Tee has upgraded his guide and I will update mine as well, check my discord and the "Helpful Resources" Tab
My problem for my accounts are accidentaly getting to legends league and waiting for someone to attack me to go back to less than 5000 trophies 😂
I FEEL THIS 100%!!! People never attack in low legends LMAOO
Does the amount of ores you get by winning clan wars change if you go to a higher level clan?
Loved your content ❤
Thank you!!!
Your videos are amazing dude. Really love them. Keep it up!
Is this the BD version of judo?
Personally, as a th13 its quite easy to maintain Titan, i have never had issues, or any stress. Also since currently its easy to push trophies with ram riders and cookie, i would say if anyone wants to do so, now is the best time.
Im th12 co-leader and this is exactly what i'm going through right now. We're doing clan wars on cd and I hope no one will complain lol
Bro now that the hero potion boosts your heroes to max level, is it still worth it to upgrade them? Wouldnt be easier to just stack hero potions for CWL?
It kinda goes against the purpose of the game, to have a strong base and strong army, if ur Heroes are only strong for War.
Plus it's not satisfying lol
@@amamapapsneo5635 For me, the hero grind wasn´t any fun at all and it´ll never gonna stop so a game like that isn´t worth playing. Since i commented, I´ve been buying potions and never upgrading my heroes unless i must spend a book or have extra dark elixir and believe me, im enjoying the game like i never did before + doing very well at war and clan league. Would recommend 👌
Before upgrading my townhall 11 to townhall 12, I pushed to low legend league for that juicy x4 star bonus. 😂 And now going to townhall 13 I'm still doing the same strategy now 😂
I think the buffed hero potions will factor in heavily for people deciding whether to grind hero levels or participate in wars to upgrade abilities.
Since all my accounts are th13+, I see much more value in getting those new abilities unlocked and upgraded faster so I'm going to hold off on hero upgrades and instead do back to back wars while using the 3 weekly hero potions from the trader that you can get with raid medals. It's the best of both worlds.
Once I've upgraded the new abilties to becoming equal to the basic ones then I'll probably shift over to farming hero levels.
If they do make the hero potions more rare as a consequence of the buff, I might do things differently.
Just join a fwa
@@walterwhite210what’s fwa
@@walterwhite210 my clan has a 80% war win rate so I get more ores by doing wars there instead of by joining a fwa where you win 50% or less. there's no incentive to purposefully lose war anymore.
@@shahangilani farm war alliance. basically a huge network of clans that if they face against each other they let one or the other clan win so that people can get war loot without having heroes. if you win one war then next time you face a fwa, you'll be made to lose and that's how the cycle goes. tbh its a huge waste of time because the loot in war is not significant and you now get much more ores by just winning wars.
@@IhazParkinsonz oh i see
Thanks for the info
I really hope they make heroes available for wars while upgrading in some way. Id be fine with it even with some kind of disadvantage. Say if you are upgrading your hero, then in the war u can use it, but with -5 levels. Obviously they want to make money off of people taking longer to get their heroes up, but with the current way things are, its sort of frustrating warring back to back while trying to level heroes that take days and days to upgrade.
they should make it to where you cant use the abilities while its upgrading so its basically just a super troop with alot of health and DPS
Atleast we have cookie troops for another week. Easy 3 star without any heros because they are too op
I want to say that if they do something like you can get epic equipment from gold pass like cr do with evolution it would be super p2w
Yeah that's true! I hope it doesn't get to that
1:33 I'm at mid TH12 at Champion II, I am absolutely not having a hard time maintaining my league
currently have 4300 trophies, am on my way to titan 1. started playing clash 3 weeks ago and am at th13 with all walls level 13
NICEEE!!! You're really flying 💯
Great video 🔥💪
Love this video! Fantastic explanations and a big fan of the numbers! Great work :)
first video i seen of urs and i will subscribe
Pls compare hero upgrading time including abilities and equipment before and after update and without new equipment how did it compared to before update as they reduce HP and DMG
Definitely need an analysis on if it makes sense to keep heros down constantly if it means we can't war to get ores...
Im mid th12 but ive found that since i have time (2-4 hours a day) that low legends is great, i have giant arrow level 9 at this point with my mate still at 5 in gold league
great video ggs, but in my opinion you can get and stay pretty easily at Titan 1 or at least really high in trophies as any town hall, i'm th12 titan 1 and 2 attacks a day is ok to stay at this league for example
I discovered my happiness in this game was not warring, I haven’t warred for the last 2 town halls because people get to arsey about when and who you hit. Yes I’ve tried many clans until I decided to take my accounts and just grind.
This update sucks for me 😂 I’d be interested to know the time difference it would take generating ores through non war activity vs with war activity
Sorry to hear about the war troubles! Atleast the star bonus is more significant than the wars, which is the best case scenario IMO
3:33 a major error. you have compared winning glowy ores to losing STARRY ores :P
You're 100% Right!! AHE$PIOENPGEOIGJEKGLL
I'm going to have to pin a comment about the corrections. Thank you!
yes, I noticed that too
Sorry guys :( @@mr.azizkovich
idk what bases you get in Titan but my loot is amazing. I get 1 mil + for each resource every single raid with sneaky gobs
Someone on reddit suggested a builder potion that halts production of a building for 1 hour, where you lose the build progress for that time but you can use heroes for war. Seems like a good solution to me
or instead just a potion that lets u use heroes for 1 hour if they are upgrading
Is it worth buying the packs? I mean the ones up to $15, sure, but the one with the lvl 3 blacksmiths?
To be honest if we're talking about optimum value, that blacksmith deal is not it. But if you spend money often, it also isn't a "bad deal". It's just also not necessary cuz you're only skipping 6 days of upgrades
@@bdlegendcoc thank you!
Thanks for the information
Bro really dipped out for good. The content will be missed.
@bdlegendcoc Please explain if you should use both attacks in Clan War, even if the enemy already got three-starred by your clan. So always use both attacks, or only if you can still get a star?
I want to get an optimum way to get orbs ans loot
Which league will you suggest
Watch the video!!! But for ores then Titan 1 or LL
Hero potions max your heros now so they are really helping f2p and rushers its awesome
As a result. As an almost maxed th13 . I need to rush to th 16 so i can get more of these
Me too.
thanks for the help
Ofcourse!!
Hey bro, Can you please make a vedio on managing hero&pet upgrade. Like how can we put heroes and pet house down 24/7 efficiently.
With the reworked heroes potion, does that mean i should skip the heroes grind and go right away to th16 first then grind them later? Assuming i can keep up with other stuff
I will make a video discussing this - need to think and do numbers first (:
U forgot to mention if u just get sneaky goblin it doesn't matter which league you are in you'll get your loot
Haha this is true but different loot is available at different leagues too!!
The Hero Potion has the best rework
You've become my fav clash content creator. Do you have a supercell creator code?
Hey, Can you make an updated rushing guide for TH15 and how to reach TH16..
GUYS THE UPDATE IS OUT!
YESSSIRRRR
I feel that going to titans is best or at least champs because at masters you get about 500 shiny ore compared to titan which is about 900+ the difference is totally mad and can't be ignored
The moment i noticed that i farmed 2k trophies. Im currently at 0 donations and 10k troops requested 🥴
i am late this time to comment but will comment for sure as this video, like always, is very helpful
First video I've watches from your channel. Really like your take on things. Background music was just a bit too loud, making it hard to focus
now we desperately need a video your hair routine 😅❤
Are the clan wars ores glitched? My clan lost our war and didn't get any ores
War had to be started POST update
Thanks man!
Can you make a full guide video on how to use raid medals efficiently
My clan is doing everything goes clan wars, so even if your heroes are down as long as you attack your fine. We just really want to grind all the ore's
I'm th13. Can i join ? I can't found good clan. Always dead one
im wondering, if i use one of my attacks in war and there is no clean up to do, do i get more ores if i attack a already 3 stared base?
My star bonus doesnt have any ores as of now, must i wait till tomorrow to get some?
Nope! Even tho it doesn't show that you'll get ores, you will get them. I got them earlier today fot this video
@@bdlegendcoc thanks for the info
@@skdrfz I believe you need to have the blacksmith built tho
P2W is worrying that rare equipment will be behind a paywall. Not the resource aspect to upgrade them
Now i can finally max my queens equipment
IDK man... At th12 i find no problem sitting at Titan II, with always full storages and just being active
I get not giving losing clans that don't attack less ores but it kinda sucks if you try and lose by a couple stars
Just for your information Wars dont happen every day the preparation time period makes it so War only happens every 2 days
New TH 14 here, M3- Ch3 best loot ... hammer jam I looted about 25mil a day
Coc should make upgrading heroes usable during normal war
so basically i can do cw every second day to get ores and the daily star bonus at the same time to maximalize the method of farming ores?
Me th 7,Ya Instreating😂
I have my own clan with my all 15 I'd with eatch towhall included
Just start 15 to 15 war and enemy has 45 stars😅
So i don't even attack on their district😂
Need me a good clan for wars, I may not be the best attackers but practice makes perfection
you can learn edrags to get consistent 2 stars in wars when heroes are down
Your calculations for the war bonuses is actually incorrect by a factor of 2. They did a poor job wording how we gain resources from wars. The resources you gain are not based on your town hall weight, but actually the town hall weight of the player(s) you attack during war (similar to how the standard resources in war work as well). This still makes it incredibly dependent on the clans youre facing and makes it all the more important to get both of your war attacks in each time.
I came here to comment this same thing. Wars are better than daily bonuses for this reason, assuming you can win more than half
Im a townhall 12 in Champion 1 and Its pretty manageable
if you play your cards right and save a second star bonus technecally its 2 per day
Will 4x star bonus apply for ores? 0:25
Sadly no
I cant find the ores in the shop. Its just not there for gems or medals
How about if I am a TH11 player, but I attack the TH16 base in war just for the loot?
Bro can I get 6 times star bonus when upgrading my th to next level ?
If I buy the gauntlet will I have it for ever or only temporary
Im th13 in titan 1 and i think im just trying to maintain cause theres actually decent loot if you look for a minute or 2
When i was in college i watch a bunch of indian dude teaching engineering topics better than my professor and now this dude says it all the info im searching for..thanks for very informative video btw new subscriber😅 hoping this channel grow
Which country are you from?
Now do you receive said ores if you don't build blacksmith yet?
No unfortunately
Best league to farm gold , elixir and dark for th15 and th16 ?
I mean where i can find dead bases as a th15/16
I am th15 and have accounts of 13,12 to if you are th13 or plus do farming in master 2 you can get 10k dark approximately per attack
Can i find dead bases with full collectors in master 2 as th15 ?
@@Thunder-breather yes brother you can
And hopefully you get ores for every battle day in CWL