Fallen Leaves turned into a ghost after drowning in water, right? Water. Water… Bristle drowned in water… dark water. “Dark river” talks about the tunnels. I don’t think the writers will have enough brains to get all that together, but it would be great if we could have a “beneath the clans” story.
I always thought the whole lore of the tunnels was really intresting but they just kind of threw it away and devalued it in crowfeathers trial. It lost its mystery.
While I am all for a Bristlefrost Superedition, what I really want is an Ashfur superedition. I don't want Ashfur to come back, he already did that once, what I want is a super edition about how he caused all the problems in Starclan in The Broken Code. And since Bristfrost's and Ashfur's deaths are connected, that would still leave room for a Bristlefrost superedition.
Though I do agree an Ashfur super edition would be nice, there would be nothing new to share. We’ve seen all of his youth and warrior hood, we’ve seen how his obsession over Squilf had grown, and in the prologue/ first chapter of one of the book after Ashfur’s identity was revealed, he explains himself how he did everything he’d done.
@@zoethelynx_625@ zoethelynx_625 Yes, and I agree that there would be nothing to tell about Ashfur before he died, but the book would be a good opportunity for us to learn more about how Starclan works. Besides that, we only got a summary of how Ashfur trapped Starclan, I think it would be interesting to hear about it in more detail. It would also be cool to read about Ashfur's trial that got him accepted into Starclan since we also don't know much about that beyond what Yellowfang said (that he loved too much).
As much as I love Bristlefrost, the sacrifice was a big part of TBC, so by bringing her back, they're unravelling all of that and kind of ruining the mysteriousness of the dark forest. This is just my opinion but tbh whatever warriors posts, I will read.
The most id want is them discovering her spirit is still around. Maybe in the tunnels or something? But I don’t want her to come back to life. I still sob over her death I don’t want her to return.
Exactly. I balled my eyes out when Bristlefrost died. I’ve never cried so much from a book, and if she comes back that means all those tears were for nothing. For once the Erin’s got me attached enough to a character and her life, and relationships, that her death genuinely made me feel depressed for a few days. That’s called GOOD writing. Your readers should feel DEVASTATED when a character dies. Bringing Bristlefrost back ruins all of that. bUt, the fact I cried so much does mean that I will be a little happy to see her again. IF they write it well. I don’t want them to bring her back, but if they do I know I’ll end up smiling.
As a lot of others have said, I really hope they don't bring Bristlefrost back. One, wouldn't it render her sacrifice pointless? Why have her drown in the instant death water if she wasn't going to STAY dead? Secondly, if they brought her back, who's to say they won't try to bring other double dead cats back?
As much as I love Bristlefrost, I dont want her to return after getting a permadeath. But the weird thing about hers was that her mortal body disappeared alongside it, which didnt happen from that one WindClan (I think) cat who died during Dark Forest training. But that could possibly support Akira's theory of her being in an alternate/parallel universe. Remember when the craziest thing about Warriors used to be a leader losing multiple lives at once?
This happen before with cat dying in the dark forest and went missing. Beetlewhisker from Riverclan went missing after death. Some of the cats killed by the kin as well disappeared as well. Only some victims were found when Tree contacted them, so I am interested to see if we get anyone back from there as well. This could also lead to a villain introduction or return if The Erins are planning on it.
Yea, willowshine died momments before entering the dark forest. Which is why her body didn't disappear like you said. But if I remember correctly, Spiresight wasn't mentioned being able to see her, and neither was Tree or Rootspring. So if she does comeback, there's going to be a lot of controversy and I wonder how the Erin's will portray it.
Well, Antpelt woke up and died days later. Beetlewhisker died IN the Dark Forest, so he disappeared. Willowshine died before entering because (What I guess is most likely) Ashfur sensed her coming since she was trying to connect with a dead Clanmate. I'm not sure how he killed her though... When cats went into the Dark Forest it's said their's spirits go, not their bodies. But that was fading, which is why cats got hurt/died. The whole thing with OotS was that the Dark Forest couldn't connect like that anymore, so I'm only guessing that when Ashfur upset the balance, the worlds got close like that again, but not as close, which is how Dark Forest cats couldn't cross but living cats died.
I always headcannoned that faded cats become the 'gods' who create the prophecies, which are then recieved by StarClan and relayed to the Clans. I got this theory when I read about the connections between Rock, Midnight, the ancient cats and StarClan
That sounds like a wonderful theory. I like the idea of those cats becoming primordial feline gods after dying a second time (or tenth time in the case of leaders).
Actually some prophesies came from the first medicine cat who saw into the future where her gift came from who knows the rest came from the ancients so did the prehistoric sabertooyhs hand it down throughout generations of descendants from wild to domestic? Headcannon fodder good for thought
this!!! at least if they do, have them bring back ashfur- yes, repetitive, but something to show how important her sacrifice was and make saving her a major mistake. but all in all, i’m begging it to not be bringing her back. i’d think a se about shadowsight’s trauma, or even (less likely) juniperclaw as the border guardian would be so much more interesting
My guess is she won’t come back to life but she’s somewhere and needs help returning to starclan, somewhere. Maybe 17 will be her view and 18 will be a ghost cat saving her, maybe somehow warrior clan is brought in just bc yes, she could need help finding her way to starclan which would be interesting
I would be just as happy if she actually came back, bristlefrost was one of my favorite characters, AND SHE DIED WITH NO WARNING. And the way she was feeling bad for rootspring just adds to the sadness
One issue I see (setting aside that I agree this would completely ruin ALITM'semotional impact) is Brsitlefrost's body. There is one other example of a living cat being faded right away: Beetlewhisker (who was murdered by Brokenstar), after he died we know from Dovewing's perspective that RiverClan couldn't find his body, implying it vanished when he died. And since Bristlefrost's body vanished too (and also judging by Ivypool recognizing what it means) I just can't buy that she didn't die, and retconning it to that she didn't would IMO be a horrible decision. Edit: I do agree that the next SE will be Ivypool, but my theory for what "revising" means is that the original story would have taken place right after ALITM.
I'll be honest.. Bristlefrost's sacrifice was necessary, yes, but i think, bringing someone back, from the “second death” [spirit death] would be good, a drama in that, together with mystery would be actually pretty good, instead of a book about alive cats we could get a full book with the afterlife, not just starclan, Darkforest, other residences. I really hope they would do something like that, imma just live in my world where this happens.
Imo, Bristlefrost dying was a *HUGE* part of TBC. If they were going to bring her back they would need to have some sort of conflict or problem going on with Ashfur or the Darkforest or her whole entire sacrifice is literally worthless. Here is one plot I could imagine happening: Bristlefrost is *somehow* brought back or something, but, with the new problem that they face she would have to stay in the dark waters forever or be cursed to stay in the dark forest. She wouldn't ever be able to go back to star clan because she has the problem similar to Shadowsight where she has too much darkness in her. It would still be a sacrifice in a way, where she is destined to eternal suffering in the dark waters. OR, she could be similar to Juniperclaw and she could protect the dark forest from its troubles or problems so the whole entire Ashfur thing doesn't happen again. One more thing that could be *possibly* put into the books is Rootspring or Shadowsight somehow seeing another version of themselves (the ones where Root and Bristle actually get together and what-not,) and seeing Bristfrost alive in *that* story. But I still doubt they would bring her back since it wouldn't make sense to just kill her off and pull a Firestar and Hollyleaf thing where they died and just *magically* came back into the books. But again, this is my opinion.
That makes sense. I mean, it’s like the best option bc Bristlefrost is my fav character but I know I have to let her go. So if that happened, that would be the best because I know she still lives somewhere.
wow, I clicked on this so fast. Bristlefrost's death was the saddest part in the whole of warrior cats I've ever read, bringing her back in some way would make me so happy! I do however think it would ruin the point of her sacrifice tho....
Maybe if anything the extra realm could have all the other cats that are not in tribe or clans in it as their afterlife, I feel that would make more sense and ties in well. we all wanna see where barley, jake and scrouge went lol
I remember in the ending manga in Tallstar's revenge, Jake helped him get to StarClan. So clearly cats like him go SOMEWHERE, we just don't know. I'm guessing that Ravenpaw, Barley, and Scrouge are all in the same place, but maybe not Scrouge since he's evil.
frr that was the ONLY thing i full on SOBBED at in the books- like my eyes watered a little when pebbleshine got carried off but bristlefrost was MY FAAAV character ever
@kori8381 Same, I didn't even read the part she's wadied. Ir was top heartbreaking. Pebbleshine, I barely shed a tear. She's great and all but wasn't too important of a character.
I really, really hope Briss doesn’t come back! She’s honestly my favourite protagonist and I think she’s great, but that sacrifice is part of what makes me love her so much. Her final chapter was utterly heartbreaking. For all that to be retconned would be a HUGE waste of the emotion and importance they put into that scene. Please, Bristlefrost. STAY DEAD!
5:11 I’ve aLways imagined they go to a empty black box, a huge one with all other faded cats, they can’t hurt eachother but they do feel hunger, they can’t die again and its just eternal darkness
Maybe perma-dead cats is the explanation for reincarnation. I.e. dead cats that were killed in star clan or the dark forest, bristle frost and ashfur can all be brought back into different situations and clans which I think would make for some interesting stories. Maybe we could get a tigerstar I doppelgänger who is good, and doesn’t have daddy issues, or an ashfur who learns to accept rejection and find true love, a spottedleaf who’s actually well-written… maybe it explains how dove, lion, jay were reincarnated centuries later, their spirits would have to have died in whatever afterlife they were in.
Everyone is either saying it will ruin her sacrifice or they’ll so happy about her coming back. I agree that it would ruin her sacrifice… only if she comes back to life. If it’s about Bristlefrost needing to find StarClan, it wouldn’t ruin her sacrifice. If she lives, it will ruin her sacrifice.
Bristlefrost returning gives me pause, but your theory is very fun! You suggested Bristlefrost is in another realm, but what if the whole "she's gone" stuff means she went poof and isn't anywhere, but because she wasn't destroyed, she can technically come back from it? I know that's far-fetched. I guess I'm thinking of Madeleine L'engle's book Many Waters, which has unicorns that only sometimes exist--when they disappear, they're not in another realm or dimension, they just don't exist.
Shadowsight could probably help out with it, as hes supposed to 'see into shadows', maybe theyd have him help Rootspring find the underworld but then Shadow would have to confront Ashfur again.
Well, I hope she doesn't go back to living in the Clans, but instead has her own mission to make it to StarClan. This would probably be the best thing, and then when Rootspring dies they'll be together. (But alas, this is the Erin's choice.)
Bristlefrost's death impacted me A LOT when warrior cats hasn't done so in a very long time. If they undid it, that would be pretty lame tbh. I like your idea, but i also think it's way too cool and interesting to be a part of warrior cats
I would not like this. It would completely undo her sacrifice, one of the only things I liked about ALITM. If anyone were to come back from the void, I'd want it to be a villain(who isn't ashfur) like Darktail or Brokenstar
5:00 another point in favor of this is if the vision of them having kits is the last part of her essence in the universe. That since it was the last thing she thought of, it’s all that’s left of her.
Honestly, I seriously hope they don’t end up doing this. I love bristlefrost but her death was so impactful and devastating that I hope they wouldn’t just take it back. Sure, the RootBristle scene would be adorable in starclan, but it’s not worth it to mess up the lore. Part of the reason bristlefrost is a great character is she sacrificed herself, and now I feel we would have a love-stricken kitty running from ultimate death to her boyfriend kind of bris
As much as I cried at her death I feel like on the first super edition (like you said) Ivypool looks for Bristlefrost and she finds her, although in the next one I feel like Ivypool should help guide Bristlefrost to starclan instead of reviving her just so her sacrifice wasn’t for nothin
as much as her death made me sob and i absolutely adore her, her death was something so traumatic and unqiue to other deaths and it would make her sacrifice pointless. but part of me also wants her back cause she's my baby.
I really hope that Bristlefrost comes back. Not only will that create some more questions and establish more of the lore, but let's agree, Bristlefrost's death is absolutely tragic. I mean girl freakin got her soul sucked out of her after she had just gone through a traumatic time. She didn't even get to go to Starclan where she could rest!
what about like a Snowtuft book? That now, would be amazing. Like Snowtuft's life in the dark forest, reasons why he helped Bristle, Root and Shadowsight. Who would actually not really want that..?
If they do bring Bristlefrost back, I hope they do something like there is something beneath the living world. If they write correctly, it could be such an interesting plot and different than the other books since it introduces, basically, a new world.
Im almost certain there’s multiple trapped spirits in the tunnels. It’s specified all the cats who died there stay trapped there, not to mention there’s portals in the tunnels too, only accessible by cats with certain powers (Jayfeather and rock) There’s gotta be something there because there’s no explanation as to why they stay trapped there once they die. The books never explain rock either, or the threes powers. I hope these new books somehow connect the “dark water” or emptiness left from the fading dark forest to the “dark river” in the tunnels. Maybe the tunnels represent the collapsed religion of the ancients like the fading dark forests represents the collapsing religion/ beliefs of the clans, it leaves some sort of gaping emptiness. Both seem to trap spirits. Perhaps cats stayed in the tunnels because at the time there was no starclan or tribe of endless hunting to go to, which is also unsettling but not nearly as interesting. What do you think?
I would love it it bristle could return, yeah her sacrifice was big but her returning shouldn’t change anything, what happened to her was way out of the ordinary, she was still alive and her body disappeared when the black water went away, she could just be someone very very deep in the tunnels, or like just a black void that you can somehow get to from the dark forest, if ashfur is with her and she and whoever found her had to fight him to get out and they killed him then ashfur really wouldn’t return, also I would love to see some more bristle x root
I’m actually really hoping they don’t bring her back other wise her death was just pretty much for nothing. Also I’m pretty sure most of us are used to her being gone.
I know that, however sad it may be, the double death two strikes your out thing is a very important concept in these lovely cat books and to try and bring back a portion of such cats would be sort of unproductive in investing us in the newer characters and storyline, but like why Bristlefrost-? I knew her death was coming but it still made me cry. Its just truly tragic to think that a young cat such as her would have been cheated of not one, but two lifetimes at once. Not to mention poor Rootspring and Ivypool. For really old characters such as spottedleaf and tigerstar who double died naturally, i think its best for the series if they stay double dead because if i hear one more word about the broad shoulders and the sweet scent, im gonna go set fire to my bookshelf. However, I think Bristlefrost should be brought back. Another thing that could support the theory is the very fact that her body just completely vanished in the living world. If her spirit died, why would her body disappear. Did that mean Spottedleafs grave just poofed out of existance when she double died? What about Tigerstar? Hawkfrost? I dont think so. So i think its possible that she rejoined with her body in the fancy new realm mentioned in the video, which would hypothetically be just as crazy, but it wouldnt be out of pocket for warrior cats. ALSO those saying that her sacriface would then be deemed pointless, it really wouldnt. Noone knew what truly happened beyond the depths of the dark water. Bristlefrost and absolutely everyone else knew that she was taking a risk beyond any of their comprehension. If she lived, they would honor her the same just for having the courage to take that risk, leaping headfirst into the unknown to save Shadowsight and everyone else. And who cares about glory when she can keep her life, Ivypool and Rootspring sure don't!
it might undercut bristle's sacrifice a bit, but bristle wouldn't know she had one more chance until the super edition neat little quote i'd seen floating around tumblr recently was "you can't expect the characters to know which exact genera they're in", last we saw bristlefrost she only recently got the memo she was in a horror story arc, who knows what genera we'll see her in next time (preferably not just another romance)
Ok but hear me out- we DO have another, often forgotten afterlife- the afterlife of the tribe cats. Its similar to starclan bit distinct, other cats from the clan have interacted with it- and its heavily associated with mists and running water and being under the earth in a non "hellish" kind of way. If she fell *through* water into anywhere, that would make rhe most sense to me. And maybe give the story a chance to show the teibe cats some love without making them a lesser version of the clans. Idk, i just think it would be interesting if she had a Persephone like journey through AN underworld that's not evil just very different, and came out enlightened. (Or evil. I would also take Lich Queen Bristlefrost) It would also be just, society shattering i think. And the clan society needs that still. The code changes arent enough.
5:34 Hehe, what a coincidence, I have an AU thing called "path of no stars" where the darkforest takes over starclan, and the starclan cats flee to a place called "The void"
i love this video i hope bristlefrost returns she is my top 1 fav warrior and i was so sad when she died i actually started crying if she comes back i will cry again but only of happiness
Ngl, that actually sounds really cool! Like, introducing another realm would just be awesome, and also, I agree that Bristlefrost’s death seemed kinda strange. And although I hate Ashfur, I do hope that maybe he can have a proper ending this time, and have Squirrelflight confront him, and just kinda fix it!
I really hope they keep her dead, but an explanation as to why spirits seem to stay trapped in certain places has been left unexplained since the power of three. Maybe they’ll connect the “dark water,” essentially gaping emptiness of what’s faded from the dark forest, to the “dark river” under the tunnels. Both trap spirits within them. Both represent collapsing religions and old, forgotten beliefs. The tunnels might have portals within them only accessible to certain cats if it’s not just an anomaly of jays powers. Ashfur was able to find portals and rips in Both starclan and the dark forest. It’s possible spirits stay trapped in the tunnels because at the time there was no starclan or tribe of endless hunting until Jayfeather creates at least one of them. It’s equally as unsettling, but not nearly as interesting.
Yes yes yes !! She is my absolute favorite character I would be so happy if she same back! And had a super addition!! Dreams!!! You probably convinced alot of people to want her to come back now! She's such a cool and heroic cat!
Do you plot your videos word for word? It’s so nice and put together! If you do, could you make a video on it and how you organize everything? Thank you!
One thing I can see happening is ivy and rootspring, maybe even fernsong too and their other kits, finding Bristlefrost in this mysterious new realm but her having no memories of them or what happened to her
Im probably being stupid but- Bristlefrost apparently didnt come back becuase if you die in the dark forest, you dont come back But when apprentices and warriors were training in the dark forest for the great battle (i think it was that one) i believe a cat called AntPelt died. SO WHY DIDNT SHE COME BACK.
I would actually love it more if the first book was Ashfur's perspective in starclan- how he did all that he did, leading up to Bramble's death, and then the second book was Bramblestar's perspective as a ghost i think those would be such fun POVs to experience- I know that's not whats going to happen, I just think regardless of what's going to happen, that would have been a cool way to go instead haha I really dont want Bris to come back, I think it would lessen the impact of her death n all
the first book can't be Ashfur's pov. It takes place during A starless clan, that's already confirmed. So unless they brought him back from the double death, he can't be a pov in the next super.
@@flamestormthecat2833 Ik, I said in my comment ik that's not what's going to happen, I was just saying it'd be a cool concept instead of whatever we're actually getting
What if sleekwhisker is the main character of super edition 17 but she feels guilty and she helps bring back bristlefrost back in super edition 18. Sleekwhisker’s guilt and ivypool’s grief. The cats who I think should find her are jayfeather, puddleshine, sleekwhisker, shadowsight, ivypool and rootspring.
I really hope they don't do a se for ivypool it was be mainly filler of stuff we already seen in oots and tbc and it would just be a letdown like the last 3 se were leopardstars honor onestars confession now riverstars home they won't do a cliff hanger in a se they never have and never will
Me after i finished that arc and hard think: they cant just kill off a protagonist during their arc that easily, right? If they dont bring her back for rootspring he'll be depressed forever! And i mean i still think the dark forest is cat hell even if it ain't the underworld
Screaming cause I’ve heard whisperings of “ivypool’s heart” being released in September next year, what a birthday present. Your theory could be pretty on the nose
Wait, remember that one scene in A Light In The Mist, where SilverHawk talks about his mate, EmberDawn and his son? Firestar said he never saw EmberDawn or Her son in Starclan or the dark forest. What if EmberDawn and her son are in this new realm RIGHT NOW. 😱
i think bristlefrost's character could be explored in a tasteful way which respects her character up to her sacrifice, but i think it'd be hard to do and idk if the team would be able to pull it off. but it seems they really care about her character, so it's possible
I really want the Beneath the Clans to be where 'gone' cats, kitty-pets, or just clan cats that never did much will go. Sort of like the Fields of Asphodel in Greek myths. Basically, it's an area that some cats are after they die. It isn't a bad place though. It's not very comfortable but the cats usually make friends, learn about the past of the clans using the tunnel time travel or just spend their afterlife there. Some have grown bitter and hidden themselves deeper into the tunnels. Although, I don't want to see Bristlefrost return by coming back to life but to have her in Starclan.
Sorry, be for a bad spelling, but I have to do this 😅 ( contact when I talk about a blood splatter across her face, it's referring to the fact that her mother was slaughtered by the dogs. The blood ended up on her face. Not grooming herself for 3 days caused it to be permanent.) Dark sludge enclosed the walls, Almost like tangled up vines. She attempted to step forward " what have i done? " she questioned herself. Her eyes were watering and she looked up. Her Paw straining against what felt like the world sharp nails pressing down. Frostpaw suddenly jolted her body, straining against everything. She had done with starclan had asked, why punish me? All reddish stain that marked her face turned darker and darker. Implicating death. What have you done? A voice echoed in her ear, She turned to see a silver cat. scars marking her body. Before she was slightly pulled up, no, don't leave me here! she desperately cried, but it was already done. Her words echoed in her mind over and over again, causing pain her muscles tensed somehow more than down to her pelt making her look half her size. And then she understood. One life for another revival has its complications and consequences... BristleFrost revival. Prologue Her body screamed in pain,But she did not move against it. And she was dragged up by some unknown force. Soon she was on ground, her Paws swayed a bit. She turned her head blinking her eyes. Her fur was almost black now, stained if she tried to recall what happened. I know is cringey, but I'm not finishing it :(. I give up. Sorry, I'm reading the revival book from Stephen King XD. (I'm not proof reading>:[ )
Honestly i would love a bristlefrost super edition but more then all a snowtuft superedition i mean the writers did leave him on kind of a cliffhanger with him not remembering what he did. We have recently seen starclan making some bad choices with letting ashfur into starclan so what if they did that before and trusted the wrong cat and let a bad kitty into starclan instead of snowtuft? Love your vids btw
Actually the same author (Cherith Baldry)who wrote the forgotten warrior is writing pools heart. I mean ik all the authors talk about the script but it still gives me hope since she brought hollyleaf back lol.
Seeing as bristlefrosts death made me take a hiatus from warriors for a couple of years i really hope shes alive, she was my fav protag from the broken code
If they bringher back, they should have her "corrupted" or something. Like how those movies of a dead loved one being "different" after they've been revived and going on a killing spree. That would be a good way to thin out ThunderClan, give a murder mystery, AND mess with the morals of reliving the dead in whatever way they decide to do. Like, Rootspring brings her back and moves to ThunderClan with her. She acts off but kind at first as mysterious deaths begin. As the bodies pike up, she slowly turn cruel and vicious. Root and Ivy talk and reize all the dead cats had supported Imposter Bramblestar, leading to 2 main suspects, Spotfur and Lionblaze. Lionblaze being super aggressive in TBC would somehow make him make sense to them and Spotfur had lost her mate, so they think Bristle coming could make something in Spot snap. When there are enough red herrings that, to Ivy and Root at least, its a huge surprise when it's revealed that Bristle is the killer. The fght and in a moment of remembering her old self, she begs them to kill her and stop her from hurting anyone else. Maybe this hapens over such a length of time that Root and Bristle have kits, maybe its fast. Either way, in the end, she's dead again and the entire story lasted 2 super editions. SE 17, Ivy and Root bring Bristle back and the first murder happens at the end of the book. SE 18, they story continues as they work together to solve the murders and stop Bristle. I know they won't do this, but it would be cool if they did.
Bristlefrost should emerge from a lake or bond in one of the former lands that the clans used to exist in, she should have to go on an adventure to find her way home with the help of other cats she meets, maybe kitty pets or rouges that may still be alive or have heard the stories of the clans along with maybe the help of 1 or 2 of the starclan cats who assist her on finding her way back to the current clans to reunite with Root and the others of the clans. Learning not only about life outside the clan on her adventure but also learning new skills and friendships that could be touched on in future stories. She could later have kits with Root and live out the dream they shared in her final memory and pass along the stories of her adventure to not only her kits but the other generations that exist and will come. To ret con her death it can be made that since she wasn't dead when she faded(unlike spotted, ash, maple, etc who were spirits) that her last memory as well as the love she felt for Root and the life she didn't get to live kept her solid enough that it brought her to a new unknown area(new to her). Somewhat like that way Squilf came back because of her love for Bramble(ew, die already Bramble, we don't need you)
I do not really want her to come back to life, but it would be sorta cool if they did a SE of her trying to get to Starclan. I would love to see her give a life to a new leader or just seeing her in a prologue that features StarClan, and I think its better for her to find StarClan because that means that her sacrifice and legacy would still stand strong.
What I think would be awesome is if Bristlefrost was in a sort of place kind of like how Malachite from Steven Universe was, having to fight to keep Ashfur from escaping
I love my girl bristlefrost, by far my most favorite she-cat of the whole series by a milestone. But if they bring her back, what was her point of saving shadowsight? Or the fact thay the dark water kills you twice. Or even the fact that Ashfur came back in the first place, considering bristlefrost was going to die anyways since she was the protagonist. Bringing her back would totally destroy the point of everything. That'd be like brining Tigerstar back after losing all 9 lives and a new life. So, as much as i love her, i deem she doesn't return. (Spottedleaf is most likely forgotten without much memory now that firestars gone. So i doubt she'll make a comeback after all this time.) The only way i see Bristlefrost returning in reincarnation, as they did with cinderpelt/cinderheart. But then again, shes died TWICE, so it still doesnt make much sense. Altough this is my opinion, the fact Rootspring couldnt even feel the slighesg presence of her, means she isnt in the tribe of rushing water or a wandering spirit like SpireSight.
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Fallen Leaves turned into a ghost after drowning in water, right? Water. Water…
Bristle drowned in water… dark water.
“Dark river” talks about the tunnels.
I don’t think the writers will have enough brains to get all that together, but it would be great if we could have a “beneath the clans” story.
I actually think beneath the clans is a amazing name
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@@YinAndYang_iiwait , there's a game ??? How Can we play it ???
I always thought the whole lore of the tunnels was really intresting but they just kind of threw it away and devalued it in crowfeathers trial. It lost its mystery.
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Imagine if she comes back only to pull a hollyleaf.
then i might actually like her 😂
pulling a hollyleaf is savage
NAHH
if the erin’s do that i’m throwing hands
SHE BETTER NOT
MY SHIP WAS RUINED WHEN SHE DIED
While I am all for a Bristlefrost Superedition, what I really want is an Ashfur superedition. I don't want Ashfur to come back, he already did that once, what I want is a super edition about how he caused all the problems in Starclan in The Broken Code. And since Bristfrost's and Ashfur's deaths are connected, that would still leave room for a Bristlefrost superedition.
Yes!!!!!!! I hate ashfur but I would like to see how he did it
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Same!
Though I do agree an Ashfur super edition would be nice, there would be nothing new to share. We’ve seen all of his youth and warrior hood, we’ve seen how his obsession over Squilf had grown, and in the prologue/ first chapter of one of the book after Ashfur’s identity was revealed, he explains himself how he did everything he’d done.
@@zoethelynx_625@ zoethelynx_625 Yes, and I agree that there would be nothing to tell about Ashfur before he died, but the book would be a good opportunity for us to learn more about how Starclan works. Besides that, we only got a summary of how Ashfur trapped Starclan, I think it would be interesting to hear about it in more detail. It would also be cool to read about Ashfur's trial that got him accepted into Starclan since we also don't know much about that beyond what Yellowfang said (that he loved too much).
As much as I love Bristlefrost, the sacrifice was a big part of TBC, so by bringing her back, they're unravelling all of that and kind of ruining the mysteriousness of the dark forest. This is just my opinion but tbh whatever warriors posts, I will read.
exactly. i do NOT want them to bring her back even though i love her.
@@warriorcatkitty Yeah she is an absolute queen but we need to move on to characters like sunbeam and nightheart
The most id want is them discovering her spirit is still around. Maybe in the tunnels or something? But I don’t want her to come back to life. I still sob over her death I don’t want her to return.
@@silverfire1248 Good point
Exactly. I balled my eyes out when Bristlefrost died. I’ve never cried so much from a book, and if she comes back that means all those tears were for nothing. For once the Erin’s got me attached enough to a character and her life, and relationships, that her death genuinely made me feel depressed for a few days. That’s called GOOD writing. Your readers should feel DEVASTATED when a character dies. Bringing Bristlefrost back ruins all of that.
bUt, the fact I cried so much does mean that I will be a little happy to see her again. IF they write it well. I don’t want them to bring her back, but if they do I know I’ll end up smiling.
As a lot of others have said, I really hope they don't bring Bristlefrost back. One, wouldn't it render her sacrifice pointless? Why have her drown in the instant death water if she wasn't going to STAY dead? Secondly, if they brought her back, who's to say they won't try to bring other double dead cats back?
Exactly. I love Bristlefrost a ton, but bringing her back would ruin everything. I do NOT want them to go that route. Hopefully they wouldn't.
Exactly
Honestly if they were going to, I'd want them to elaborate on the double dead cats. Like spottendleaf and antpelt.
Tigerstar undoubledying and Firestar coming from heaven to beat his ass would be something
I do love her, but you’re right.
As much as I love Bristlefrost, I dont want her to return after getting a permadeath. But the weird thing about hers was that her mortal body disappeared alongside it, which didnt happen from that one WindClan (I think) cat who died during Dark Forest training.
But that could possibly support Akira's theory of her being in an alternate/parallel universe.
Remember when the craziest thing about Warriors used to be a leader losing multiple lives at once?
This happen before with cat dying in the dark forest and went missing. Beetlewhisker from Riverclan went missing after death. Some of the cats killed by the kin as well disappeared as well. Only some victims were found when Tree contacted them, so I am interested to see if we get anyone back from there as well. This could also lead to a villain introduction or return if The Erins are planning on it.
If you're thinking of Antpelt, he woke up before his death (if I remember correctly), which is probably why he didn't just... disappear.
Yea, willowshine died momments before entering the dark forest. Which is why her body didn't disappear like you said. But if I remember correctly, Spiresight wasn't mentioned being able to see her, and neither was Tree or Rootspring. So if she does comeback, there's going to be a lot of controversy and I wonder how the Erin's will portray it.
Well, Antpelt woke up and died days later. Beetlewhisker died IN the Dark Forest, so he disappeared. Willowshine died before entering because (What I guess is most likely) Ashfur sensed her coming since she was trying to connect with a dead Clanmate. I'm not sure how he killed her though...
When cats went into the Dark Forest it's said their's spirits go, not their bodies. But that was fading, which is why cats got hurt/died. The whole thing with OotS was that the Dark Forest couldn't connect like that anymore, so I'm only guessing that when Ashfur upset the balance, the worlds got close like that again, but not as close, which is how Dark Forest cats couldn't cross but living cats died.
I always headcannoned that faded cats become the 'gods' who create the prophecies, which are then recieved by StarClan and relayed to the Clans. I got this theory when I read about the connections between Rock, Midnight, the ancient cats and StarClan
That sounds like a wonderful theory. I like the idea of those cats becoming primordial feline gods after dying a second time (or tenth time in the case of leaders).
If bristlefrost become someone like Tree, I'll cry of joy tbh.
Actually some prophesies came from the first medicine cat who saw into the future where her gift came from who knows the rest came from the ancients so did the prehistoric sabertooyhs hand it down throughout generations of descendants from wild to domestic? Headcannon fodder good for thought
Good God, I _hope_ they don't bring her back. That would make her sacrifice completely pointless.
Same honestly, her sacrifice was important. It would make it worthless
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this!!! at least if they do, have them bring back ashfur- yes, repetitive, but something to show how important her sacrifice was and make saving her a major mistake.
but all in all, i’m begging it to not be bringing her back. i’d think a se about shadowsight’s trauma, or even (less likely) juniperclaw as the border guardian would be so much more interesting
I agree
My guess is she won’t come back to life but she’s somewhere and needs help returning to starclan, somewhere. Maybe 17 will be her view and 18 will be a ghost cat saving her, maybe somehow warrior clan is brought in just bc yes, she could need help finding her way to starclan which would be interesting
Maybe.
I would be just as happy if she actually came back, bristlefrost was one of my favorite characters, AND SHE DIED WITH NO WARNING. And the way she was feeling bad for rootspring just adds to the sadness
@@DoveDraws_ same
17 is confirmed to be Ivypool's heart but 18 is still possible for a Bristlefrost SE
For real! Like the fact that she doesn’t even get to go to StarClan after is the kicker for me. It’s so cruel. 😭 Like good god, poor Rootspring.
One issue I see (setting aside that I agree this would completely ruin ALITM'semotional impact) is Brsitlefrost's body.
There is one other example of a living cat being faded right away: Beetlewhisker (who was murdered by Brokenstar), after he died we know from Dovewing's perspective that RiverClan couldn't find his body, implying it vanished when he died. And since Bristlefrost's body vanished too (and also judging by Ivypool recognizing what it means) I just can't buy that she didn't die, and retconning it to that she didn't would IMO be a horrible decision.
Edit: I do agree that the next SE will be Ivypool, but my theory for what "revising" means is that the original story would have taken place right after ALITM.
I'll be honest..
Bristlefrost's sacrifice was necessary, yes, but i think, bringing someone back, from the “second death” [spirit death] would be good, a drama in that, together with mystery would be actually pretty good, instead of a book about alive cats we could get a full book with the afterlife, not just starclan, Darkforest, other residences.
I really hope they would do something like that, imma just live in my world where this happens.
THIS ^👍🏻
Imo, Bristlefrost dying was a *HUGE* part of TBC. If they were going to bring her back they would need to have some sort of conflict or problem going on with Ashfur or the Darkforest or her whole entire sacrifice is literally worthless. Here is one plot I could imagine happening:
Bristlefrost is *somehow* brought back or something, but, with the new problem that they face she would have to stay in the dark waters forever or be cursed to stay in the dark forest. She wouldn't ever be able to go back to star clan because she has the problem similar to Shadowsight where she has too much darkness in her. It would still be a sacrifice in a way, where she is destined to eternal suffering in the dark waters. OR, she could be similar to Juniperclaw and she could protect the dark forest from its troubles or problems so the whole entire Ashfur thing doesn't happen again.
One more thing that could be *possibly* put into the books is Rootspring or Shadowsight somehow seeing another version of themselves (the ones where Root and Bristle actually get together and what-not,) and seeing Bristfrost alive in *that* story. But I still doubt they would bring her back since it wouldn't make sense to just kill her off and pull a Firestar and Hollyleaf thing where they died and just *magically* came back into the books. But again, this is my opinion.
Juniperclaw is the guardian of the darkforest, not Berryheart
That makes sense. I mean, it’s like the best option bc Bristlefrost is my fav character but I know I have to let her go. So if that happened, that would be the best because I know she still lives somewhere.
If they bring her back at ALL it would completely undo her sacrifice.
Yeah
wow, I clicked on this so fast. Bristlefrost's death was the saddest part in the whole of warrior cats I've ever read, bringing her back in some way would make me so happy! I do however think it would ruin the point of her sacrifice tho....
Maybe if anything the extra realm could have all the other cats that are not in tribe or clans in it as their afterlife, I feel that would make more sense and ties in well. we all wanna see where barley, jake and scrouge went lol
I want scourge back
I remember in the ending manga in Tallstar's revenge, Jake helped him get to StarClan. So clearly cats like him go SOMEWHERE, we just don't know. I'm guessing that Ravenpaw, Barley, and Scrouge are all in the same place, but maybe not Scrouge since he's evil.
The only thing I actually cried at was Bristlefrost's death, her and Rootspring was so cute.
Fr It was adorable 😭😭
frr that was the ONLY thing i full on SOBBED at in the books- like my eyes watered a little when pebbleshine got carried off but bristlefrost was MY FAAAV character ever
@kori8381 Same, I didn't even read the part she's wadied. Ir was top heartbreaking. Pebbleshine, I barely shed a tear. She's great and all but wasn't too important of a character.
Imagine she comes back to find that Rootspring had moved on and was mates with Wrenflight or somebody.
same that was actually the only time i've almost threw a tantrum because of a book characters death
honestly I kinda want her to stay dead, I don't want the canon to be stretched any thinner 😭
I really, really hope Briss doesn’t come back! She’s honestly my favourite protagonist and I think she’s great, but that sacrifice is part of what makes me love her so much. Her final chapter was utterly heartbreaking. For all that to be retconned would be a HUGE waste of the emotion and importance they put into that scene. Please, Bristlefrost. STAY DEAD!
After the sacrifice she made, it would be STUPID to bring her back.
But I do like the theory!
I think she needs to be in StarClan. Maybe she’s lost somewhere in the ghost residence and can’t find StarClan
I hope it’s actually like that
better yet, starclan did a fluke and she ends up wherever kittypets go when they die.
@@lemonballs that what could be interesting too
@@lemonballs I'd love that!
5:11 I’ve aLways imagined they go to a empty black box, a huge one with all other faded cats, they can’t hurt eachother but they do feel hunger, they can’t die again and its just eternal darkness
Maybe perma-dead cats is the explanation for reincarnation. I.e. dead cats that were killed in star clan or the dark forest, bristle frost and ashfur can all be brought back into different situations and clans which I think would make for some interesting stories. Maybe we could get a tigerstar I doppelgänger who is good, and doesn’t have daddy issues, or an ashfur who learns to accept rejection and find true love, a spottedleaf who’s actually well-written… maybe it explains how dove, lion, jay were reincarnated centuries later, their spirits would have to have died in whatever afterlife they were in.
What if Bristlefrost fell into an alternate reality where she and Rootspring had the life they BOTH had visions of?
See, now THIS is an interesting take, even if I feel it might be stretching canon too far? You can sure bet I’d read it, though!
Everyone is either saying it will ruin her sacrifice or they’ll so happy about her coming back. I agree that it would ruin her sacrifice… only if she comes back to life. If it’s about Bristlefrost needing to find StarClan, it wouldn’t ruin her sacrifice. If she lives, it will ruin her sacrifice.
Ye bringing her back to star clan seems sensible.
Totally agree.
Bristlefrost returning gives me pause, but your theory is very fun! You suggested Bristlefrost is in another realm, but what if the whole "she's gone" stuff means she went poof and isn't anywhere, but because she wasn't destroyed, she can technically come back from it? I know that's far-fetched. I guess I'm thinking of Madeleine L'engle's book Many Waters, which has unicorns that only sometimes exist--when they disappear, they're not in another realm or dimension, they just don't exist.
Shadowsight could probably help out with it, as hes supposed to 'see into shadows', maybe theyd have him help Rootspring find the underworld but then Shadow would have to confront Ashfur again.
Well, I hope she doesn't go back to living in the Clans, but instead has her own mission to make it to StarClan. This would probably be the best thing, and then when Rootspring dies they'll be together. (But alas, this is the Erin's choice.)
This is actually a great point! Also Briss was on the plush toy poll which was crazy for such a new character. The team really does like her 🤔
Bristlefrost's death impacted me A LOT when warrior cats hasn't done so in a very long time. If they undid it, that would be pretty lame tbh. I like your idea, but i also think it's way too cool and interesting to be a part of warrior cats
I would not like this. It would completely undo her sacrifice, one of the only things I liked about ALITM.
If anyone were to come back from the void, I'd want it to be a villain(who isn't ashfur) like Darktail or Brokenstar
Bright Guardian Akira is just 'The Game Theorist' but for the 'WARRIORS' universe.
5:10
*the writers team be taking notes*
5:00 another point in favor of this is if the vision of them having kits is the last part of her essence in the universe. That since it was the last thing she thought of, it’s all that’s left of her.
Honestly, I seriously hope they don’t end up doing this. I love bristlefrost but her death was so impactful and devastating that I hope they wouldn’t just take it back. Sure, the RootBristle scene would be adorable in starclan, but it’s not worth it to mess up the lore. Part of the reason bristlefrost is a great character is she sacrificed herself, and now I feel we would have a love-stricken kitty running from ultimate death to her boyfriend kind of bris
As much as I cried at her death I feel like on the first super edition (like you said) Ivypool looks for Bristlefrost and she finds her, although in the next one I feel like Ivypool should help guide Bristlefrost to starclan instead of reviving her just so her sacrifice wasn’t for nothin
I have never clicked on a video so fast. I FREAKING LOVE BRISTLE-if she comes back I’ll come back to reading the books.
as much as her death made me sob and i absolutely adore her, her death was something so traumatic and unqiue to other deaths and it would make her sacrifice pointless. but part of me also wants her back cause she's my baby.
I really hope that Bristlefrost comes back. Not only will that create some more questions and establish more of the lore, but let's agree, Bristlefrost's death is absolutely tragic. I mean girl freakin got her soul sucked out of her after she had just gone through a traumatic time. She didn't even get to go to Starclan where she could rest!
BRISTLEFROST IS THE BEST I JUST READ HER DEATH I WANNA CRY WAAA
what about like a Snowtuft book? That now, would be amazing. Like Snowtuft's life in the dark forest, reasons why he helped Bristle, Root and Shadowsight. Who would actually not really want that..?
If they do bring Bristlefrost back, I hope they do something like there is something beneath the living world. If they write correctly, it could be such an interesting plot and different than the other books since it introduces, basically, a new world.
Imagine Bristlefrost being like bye every thing that's important to me just to spawn back into an underground cave. 😂
5:38 Rock wasn’t trapped in the Tunnels, I think you’re talking about Fallen Leaves
Im almost certain there’s multiple trapped spirits in the tunnels. It’s specified all the cats who died there stay trapped there, not to mention there’s portals in the tunnels too, only accessible by cats with certain powers (Jayfeather and rock) There’s gotta be something there because there’s no explanation as to why they stay trapped there once they die. The books never explain rock either, or the threes powers. I hope these new books somehow connect the “dark water” or emptiness left from the fading dark forest to the “dark river” in the tunnels. Maybe the tunnels represent the collapsed religion of the ancients like the fading dark forests represents the collapsing religion/ beliefs of the clans, it leaves some sort of gaping emptiness. Both seem to trap spirits. Perhaps cats stayed in the tunnels because at the time there was no starclan or tribe of endless hunting to go to, which is also unsettling but not nearly as interesting. What do you think?
A NEW ARTICLE WAS POSTED! IVYPOOLS HEART IS ABOUT BRISTLEFROSTS DEATH!
I would love it it bristle could return, yeah her sacrifice was big but her returning shouldn’t change anything, what happened to her was way out of the ordinary, she was still alive and her body disappeared when the black water went away, she could just be someone very very deep in the tunnels, or like just a black void that you can somehow get to from the dark forest, if ashfur is with her and she and whoever found her had to fight him to get out and they killed him then ashfur really wouldn’t return, also I would love to see some more bristle x root
I’m actually really hoping they don’t bring her back other wise her death was just pretty much for nothing. Also I’m pretty sure most of us are used to her being gone.
I know that, however sad it may be, the double death two strikes your out thing is a very important concept in these lovely cat books and to try and bring back a portion of such cats would be sort of unproductive in investing us in the newer characters and storyline, but like why Bristlefrost-? I knew her death was coming but it still made me cry. Its just truly tragic to think that a young cat such as her would have been cheated of not one, but two lifetimes at once. Not to mention poor Rootspring and Ivypool. For really old characters such as spottedleaf and tigerstar who double died naturally, i think its best for the series if they stay double dead because if i hear one more word about the broad shoulders and the sweet scent, im gonna go set fire to my bookshelf. However, I think Bristlefrost should be brought back.
Another thing that could support the theory is the very fact that her body just completely vanished in the living world. If her spirit died, why would her body disappear. Did that mean Spottedleafs grave just poofed out of existance when she double died? What about Tigerstar? Hawkfrost? I dont think so. So i think its possible that she rejoined with her body in the fancy new realm mentioned in the video, which would hypothetically be just as crazy, but it wouldnt be out of pocket for warrior cats.
ALSO those saying that her sacriface would then be deemed pointless, it really wouldnt. Noone knew what truly happened beyond the depths of the dark water. Bristlefrost and absolutely everyone else knew that she was taking a risk beyond any of their comprehension. If she lived, they would honor her the same just for having the courage to take that risk, leaping headfirst into the unknown to save Shadowsight and everyone else. And who cares about glory when she can keep her life, Ivypool and Rootspring sure don't!
The comments are so controversial, lol. It’s like half split between bring her back and keep her dead lol
It’s mostly the younger crowd that wants her back. Newer readers who don’t really get Warrior cats yet lol
No matter what they do someone is going to be unhappy
IF SHE COMES BACK I WILL BE READING LIKE A FREAKING PSYCHO
it might undercut bristle's sacrifice a bit, but bristle wouldn't know she had one more chance until the super edition
neat little quote i'd seen floating around tumblr recently was "you can't expect the characters to know which exact genera they're in", last we saw bristlefrost she only recently got the memo she was in a horror story arc, who knows what genera we'll see her in next time (preferably not just another romance)
WAIT BRISTLEFROST IS MT FAVORITE CHARACTER!!!! I REALLY HOPE SHE DOES COME BACK
It would destroy her sacrifice tho
Ok but hear me out- we DO have another, often forgotten afterlife- the afterlife of the tribe cats. Its similar to starclan bit distinct, other cats from the clan have interacted with it- and its heavily associated with mists and running water and being under the earth in a non "hellish" kind of way. If she fell *through* water into anywhere, that would make rhe most sense to me. And maybe give the story a chance to show the teibe cats some love without making them a lesser version of the clans.
Idk, i just think it would be interesting if she had a Persephone like journey through AN underworld that's not evil just very different, and came out enlightened. (Or evil. I would also take Lich Queen Bristlefrost)
It would also be just, society shattering i think. And the clan society needs that still. The code changes arent enough.
5:34 Hehe, what a coincidence, I have an AU thing called "path of no stars" where the darkforest takes over starclan, and the starclan cats flee to a place called "The void"
i love this video i hope bristlefrost returns she is my top 1 fav warrior and i was so sad when she died i actually started crying if she comes back i will cry again but only of happiness
Ngl, that actually sounds really cool! Like, introducing another realm would just be awesome, and also, I agree that Bristlefrost’s death seemed kinda strange. And although I hate Ashfur, I do hope that maybe he can have a proper ending this time, and have Squirrelflight confront him, and just kinda fix it!
I kinda think bringing her back would just be stupid, it would mean her sacrifice would not mean any
I really hope they keep her dead, but an explanation as to why spirits seem to stay trapped in certain places has been left unexplained since the power of three. Maybe they’ll connect the “dark water,” essentially gaping emptiness of what’s faded from the dark forest, to the “dark river” under the tunnels. Both trap spirits within them. Both represent collapsing religions and old, forgotten beliefs. The tunnels might have portals within them only accessible to certain cats if it’s not just an anomaly of jays powers. Ashfur was able to find portals and rips in Both starclan and the dark forest. It’s possible spirits stay trapped in the tunnels because at the time there was no starclan or tribe of endless hunting until Jayfeather creates at least one of them. It’s equally as unsettling, but not nearly as interesting.
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Yes yes yes !! She is my absolute favorite character I would be so happy if she same back! And had a super addition!! Dreams!!! You probably convinced alot of people to want her to come back now! She's such a cool and heroic cat!
watching this with ivypool's heart coming out, i watched 7:17 and just stood up and started jumping up and down lmao
8:21 ivypools attitude XD
Do you plot your videos word for word? It’s so nice and put together! If you do, could you make a video on it and how you organize everything? Thank you!
One thing I can see happening is ivy and rootspring, maybe even fernsong too and their other kits, finding Bristlefrost in this mysterious new realm but her having no memories of them or what happened to her
Im probably being stupid but-
Bristlefrost apparently didnt come back becuase if you die in the dark forest, you dont come back
But when apprentices and warriors were training in the dark forest for the great battle (i think it was that one) i believe a cat called AntPelt died. SO WHY DIDNT SHE COME BACK.
Early again! You're amazing Akira, such a queen!!! I can't wait for the next book to come out!!
I would actually love it more if the first book was Ashfur's perspective in starclan- how he did all that he did, leading up to Bramble's death, and then the second book was Bramblestar's perspective as a ghost
i think those would be such fun POVs to experience- I know that's not whats going to happen, I just think regardless of what's going to happen, that would have been a cool way to go instead haha
I really dont want Bris to come back, I think it would lessen the impact of her death n all
the first book can't be Ashfur's pov. It takes place during A starless clan, that's already confirmed. So unless they brought him back from the double death, he can't be a pov in the next super.
@@flamestormthecat2833 Ik, I said in my comment ik that's not what's going to happen, I was just saying it'd be a cool concept instead of whatever we're actually getting
If she came back that would kind of ruin her sacrifice but I think you might be right Akira
Also early
Maybe 17 is a Frecklewish SE because they really seem set on her being important. Maybe she drags Bristle out of the water?
Tbh if anybody had to come back, I think snow ruft deserves to just because he died off screen and it’s so disappointing 😭
i would really enjoy to have bristlefrost back😀
What if sleekwhisker is the main character of super edition 17 but she feels guilty and she helps bring back bristlefrost back in super edition 18. Sleekwhisker’s guilt and ivypool’s grief. The cats who I think should find her are jayfeather, puddleshine, sleekwhisker, shadowsight, ivypool and rootspring.
I really hope they don't do a se for ivypool it was be mainly filler of stuff we already seen in oots and tbc and it would just be a letdown like the last 3 se were leopardstars honor onestars confession now riverstars home they won't do a cliff hanger in a se they never have and never will
YAS MY GIRL BRISTLEFROST
Bringing her back would ruin her sacrifice, if you like her hope for her to just stay dead
@@User-egt4d5k meh, I want her back anyway
I wish they would do a Specail Edition for Darktail, Sasha, Snake/Ice or Bone/Brick
Me after i finished that arc and hard think: they cant just kill off a protagonist during their arc that easily, right? If they dont bring her back for rootspring he'll be depressed forever!
And i mean i still think the dark forest is cat hell even if it ain't the underworld
I would die if they actually made the super editions about your theories I would love it 😭
Screaming cause I’ve heard whisperings of “ivypool’s heart” being released in September next year, what a birthday present. Your theory could be pretty on the nose
Although if they don’t do this, I will probably make an AU on this, because that actually sounds really cool.
Wait, remember that one scene in A Light In The Mist, where SilverHawk talks about his mate, EmberDawn and his son? Firestar said he never saw EmberDawn or Her son in Starclan or the dark forest. What if EmberDawn and her son are in this new realm RIGHT NOW. 😱
If Bristlefrost comes back it needs to be with Spottedleaf and their assention to the Great Clans.
It does
i think bristlefrost's character could be explored in a tasteful way which respects her character up to her sacrifice, but i think it'd be hard to do and idk if the team would be able to pull it off. but it seems they really care about her character, so it's possible
I really want the Beneath the Clans to be where 'gone' cats, kitty-pets, or just clan cats that never did much will go. Sort of like the Fields of Asphodel in Greek myths. Basically, it's an area that some cats are after they die. It isn't a bad place though. It's not very comfortable but the cats usually make friends, learn about the past of the clans using the tunnel time travel or just spend their afterlife there. Some have grown bitter and hidden themselves deeper into the tunnels. Although, I don't want to see Bristlefrost return by coming back to life but to have her in Starclan.
My opinion is that since I really love Bristlefrost, I'm excited
I want bristlefrost back SO MUCH and if she will be bring back it WILL be my fav book forever!!!!!!!
I would love for her to come back!
Sorry, be for a bad spelling, but I have to do this 😅 ( contact when I talk about a blood splatter across her face, it's referring to the fact that her mother was slaughtered by the dogs. The blood ended up on her face. Not grooming herself for 3 days caused it to be permanent.)
Dark sludge enclosed the walls, Almost like tangled up vines. She attempted to step forward " what have i done? " she questioned herself. Her eyes were watering and she looked up. Her Paw straining against what felt like the world sharp nails pressing down. Frostpaw suddenly jolted her body, straining against everything. She had done with starclan had asked, why punish me? All reddish stain that marked her face turned darker and darker. Implicating death. What have you done? A voice echoed in her ear, She turned to see a silver cat. scars marking her body. Before she was slightly pulled up, no, don't leave me here! she desperately cried, but it was already done. Her words echoed in her mind over and over again, causing pain her muscles tensed somehow more than down to her pelt making her look half her size. And then she understood. One life for another revival has its complications and consequences...
BristleFrost revival.
Prologue
Her body screamed in pain,But she did not move against it. And she was dragged up by some unknown force. Soon she was on ground, her Paws swayed a bit. She turned her head blinking her eyes. Her fur was almost black now, stained if she tried to recall what happened.
I know is cringey, but I'm not finishing it
:(. I give up. Sorry, I'm reading the revival book from Stephen King XD. (I'm not proof reading>:[ )
praying for a bristleFrost and RootSpring reunion rn 🙏🙏
Honestly i would love a bristlefrost super edition but more then all a snowtuft superedition i mean the writers did leave him on kind of a cliffhanger with him not remembering what he did.
We have recently seen starclan making some bad choices with letting ashfur into starclan so what if they did that before and trusted the wrong cat and let a bad kitty into starclan instead of snowtuft?
Love your vids btw
I hope there’s a book that tells who squirrel flight’s (soon to be squirrel Star) deputy will be and a lot of people hope it’s Ivy pool.
Another thing is that Bristlefrost was alive when she dissapeared whilst the other cats who faded had all previously died
Actually the same author (Cherith Baldry)who wrote the forgotten warrior is writing pools heart. I mean ik all the authors talk about the script but it still gives me hope since she brought hollyleaf back lol.
I would really REALLY like that
It's been so long since I seen you bright garden Akira i am a big fan
I’m havent got that far in warrior cats..
I’ll come back in a few months.
Seeing as bristlefrosts death made me take a hiatus from warriors for a couple of years i really hope shes alive, she was my fav protag from the broken code
Who else cried when she died, i did😢
I’d did
If they bringher back, they should have her "corrupted" or something. Like how those movies of a dead loved one being "different" after they've been revived and going on a killing spree. That would be a good way to thin out ThunderClan, give a murder mystery, AND mess with the morals of reliving the dead in whatever way they decide to do. Like, Rootspring brings her back and moves to ThunderClan with her. She acts off but kind at first as mysterious deaths begin. As the bodies pike up, she slowly turn cruel and vicious. Root and Ivy talk and reize all the dead cats had supported Imposter Bramblestar, leading to 2 main suspects, Spotfur and Lionblaze. Lionblaze being super aggressive in TBC would somehow make him make sense to them and Spotfur had lost her mate, so they think Bristle coming could make something in Spot snap. When there are enough red herrings that, to Ivy and Root at least, its a huge surprise when it's revealed that Bristle is the killer. The fght and in a moment of remembering her old self, she begs them to kill her and stop her from hurting anyone else. Maybe this hapens over such a length of time that Root and Bristle have kits, maybe its fast. Either way, in the end, she's dead again and the entire story lasted 2 super editions. SE 17, Ivy and Root bring Bristle back and the first murder happens at the end of the book. SE 18, they story continues as they work together to solve the murders and stop Bristle. I know they won't do this, but it would be cool if they did.
Bristlefrost should emerge from a lake or bond in one of the former lands that the clans used to exist in, she should have to go on an adventure to find her way home with the help of other cats she meets, maybe kitty pets or rouges that may still be alive or have heard the stories of the clans along with maybe the help of 1 or 2 of the starclan cats who assist her on finding her way back to the current clans to reunite with Root and the others of the clans. Learning not only about life outside the clan on her adventure but also learning new skills and friendships that could be touched on in future stories. She could later have kits with Root and live out the dream they shared in her final memory and pass along the stories of her adventure to not only her kits but the other generations that exist and will come.
To ret con her death it can be made that since she wasn't dead when she faded(unlike spotted, ash, maple, etc who were spirits) that her last memory as well as the love she felt for Root and the life she didn't get to live kept her solid enough that it brought her to a new unknown area(new to her). Somewhat like that way Squilf came back because of her love for Bramble(ew, die already Bramble, we don't need you)
I do not really want her to come back to life, but it would be sorta cool if they did a SE of her trying to get to Starclan. I would love to see her give a life to a new leader or just seeing her in a prologue that features StarClan, and I think its better for her to find StarClan because that means that her sacrifice and legacy would still stand strong.
What I think would be awesome is if Bristlefrost was in a sort of place kind of like how Malachite from Steven Universe was, having to fight to keep Ashfur from escaping
Omg that would be amazing.. but warrior cats would probably never think of this 💀😭🙏
I love my girl bristlefrost, by far my most favorite she-cat of the whole series by a milestone.
But if they bring her back, what was her point of saving shadowsight? Or the fact thay the dark water kills you twice. Or even the fact that Ashfur came back in the first place, considering bristlefrost was going to die anyways since she was the protagonist.
Bringing her back would totally destroy the point of everything. That'd be like brining Tigerstar back after losing all 9 lives and a new life. So, as much as i love her, i deem she doesn't return.
(Spottedleaf is most likely forgotten without much memory now that firestars gone. So i doubt she'll make a comeback after all this time.)
The only way i see Bristlefrost returning in reincarnation, as they did with cinderpelt/cinderheart. But then again, shes died TWICE, so it still doesnt make much sense. Altough this is my opinion, the fact Rootspring couldnt even feel the slighesg presence of her, means she isnt in the tribe of rushing water or a wandering spirit like SpireSight.