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The most important lesson I've learned in life is the extreme fragility of our brains, particularly in response to chemical substances. If I could live my life over again, I would avoid all such substances, including caffeine, nicotine, drugs, and even vaccines.
🙏 very important and informative video for those if us who've struggled... Nicotine and caffeine have been promoted in society. My life only changed for the better when i gave them up...
Oh! I didnt realize until he said it that caffeine can make tapering off antidepressants worse. 😳
did he say that?
It was actually after I was put on ADs and benzos that I started smoking and drinking
Same here except Wellbutrin took all my desire for anything which cured my smoking permanently 30 years ago
I was taken klonopin for 2 years and stopped then I went back to my normal life I was consuming caffeine and smoking ciggerate actually smoking give me worse insomnia and other stresses all lead full blown anxiety and severe insomnia and back to klonopin again do not smoke if you are an anxious person
All anxious people smoke it seems.
You're better off being addicted to caffeine/nicotine and never stopping then ever touching an antidepressant other than MDMA and LSd
Ggggggggatekeeping
Gluten sensitive ppl should not take LSD.. It has something to do with a component of rye (a gluten grain) used in its manufacture.
I am bipolar and caffeine is helpful for me. I was in the psychiatric system for a couple decades but managed to escape and get off of all of the psych meds. I now use marijuana and caffeine. I sleep great! I do not drink alcohol or smoke tobacco. I vape the marijuana bud , no liquid. I do not eat highly/ultra processed foods and limit my added sugar intake to no more than 25 grams a day and am now eliminating seed oils from my diet. My efforts have far exceeded the psychiatric system's efforts as it should be, it is my life after all not theirs.
Caffeine is awful drug are you mad ?
Food is the number 1 cause of all problems. Depends on which chemicals your deficient in. My dad and uncle drink pots of coffee and are fine but my uncle was on 30 psych pills per day and smoked.
@@ozzy.....7383 at least food isn’t a drug . Caffeine lots worse than any food with reason . The media just makes out it good for you because so much money too be bad from caffeine lol
Do you use theanine with the caffeine?
@@gethelp6271 matcha tea has that so yes but if I have coffee it’s usually organic espresso which does better things than coffee. Coffee has glutamate which makes gaba and needs to be in balance so I never know how it will affect me. Benzos just unlock gaba. Vodka and energy drink balance those things fast but not good in long run
This is so good and makes so much sense. The one thing I had to CT was cigarettes. I had tried to taper off/cut down, and I always went back up. I knew I had to just stop, and I was a 2 pk a day/43+ yrs smoker. I tried vaping, but it wasn't the same as smoking for me. I was just determined and quit. Yes, I DID gain a bunch of weight
I've recently quit caffeine after abusing it for years, and I wonder how much "anxiety" issues people have is just from their daily coffee consumption.
You might want to read the book Caffeine Blues
quitting caffeine and sugar.my relationship to coffee is related to med school stress and med school boards.When Dr Josef shares transition of residency and fatherhood.I see my peers struggle with the same!
YES. I started drinking coffee for fun at coffee shops. Then my life started revolving around coffee and being agitated, stuck in fear mode, and taking it to be able to things. It interfered with my sleep. I became angry irritable and confrontational with people after drinking coffee. Then I started and stopped Lexapro cold turkey, and I became so much more sensitive to caffeine that the withdrawal and coffee use made me a sense of doom agitation and weird thoughts and becoming angry easily and rolling over people’s and my own boundaries which got me into a lot of trouble. My deep sleep depended on coffee intake. Also could work for an hour or two after coffee and then crash and be exhuasted. I ended up doing crazy angry stuff and getting fired and ruining my relationships due to being irritable angry exhausted stressed and paranoid. Had obsessive thoughts about work and could not leave my house on any vacation. Obsessive thoughts about work lead to agitation. I seriously think coffee and then starting and stopping Lexapro lead me to destroying my career and family. Without coffee I get deep sleep and wake up rested, and have no anxiety. But I always go back to it out of missing it somehow. And yes I was a perfectionist and obsessive about details that did not matter. And yes I started drinking coffee because of coffee culture too! I was bored and lonely at home, so I would go to coffee shops for fun and saw others drinking it and became curious. My life was coffee culture. At first the first cup was a weird buzz that dissipated quickly. But then a cup here and there out of boredom gave me a buzz energy and a fleeting exhaustion. Then I drank two cups just out of boredom. Then drank a cup before work for the focus. Then needed two. Then I became tired exhausted buzzed hyper focused and then agitated and angry and this constant exhaustion became normal. Eating bad food became normal somehow and normal food started making me tired and I did not went it anymore. Exactly and no deep sleep and irritability it changed my brain. I had this headache annoyed feeling all the time except for a few window a week. Like ebbs and flows of a substance that your brain really feels, in a way it doesn’t react to normal food that way. A sense of everything being okay and being to handle life and have a life toward the future and just a general sense of satisfaction was gone most of the time. My life was fine, I just lacked life skills and habits. Coffee and Lexapro ruined my career and relationships.
All you had to do was get a decaf …….
I’d put refined sugar in the mix too.
Yes! We discussed it in this one!
Exactly
caffine I can't handle either way. it sucks being a smoker and trying to quit while tapering
Very useful/helpful information. I’ve not been a smoker but have friends who do and some have talked about trouble quitting or being unable to quit. Nicole’s method sounds doable. Very insightful. Taper is the way to go for psych meds for discontinuation. Great tips and tricks. Thanks
I feel more disabled after 4 yrs of tapering Klonopin than the whole time I was on it (40 yrs)plus I have been on it so long I don’t remember the me before. I wasn’t that happy before Klonopin. I was pretty happy on it but I do think I was blunted.
Nicotine can help with benzo withdrawal symptoms, provided that you are not already hooked on nicotine. Also, if you think you wouldn't be able to give up nicotine once you have started it, then I wouldn't recommend it.
around 28:00 shes talking about tapering to come off of anything. I this is definitely the same for narcotics. I've seen people end up in the ER from simple heron withdrawal. When they would taper down they would not need any medical attention besides a few supoprt meds. Cold turkey is generally a bad idea. One of the best things is having friend or family give you the doses at certain times instead of managing it yourself. There are timer safes too that can make a difference if you're honest.
Wonderful talk! Thank you both!
Thank you for this, and please consider doing more content like this covering the ill effects of these substances for some folks.
Never was a big smoker, here and there. When I was in PWS for years, I tried a few cigs and I'd be violently ill (vomiting) for 1-2 days from 1 butt. Crazy. Fun fact, nicotine is the only drug that brings you up when you're down, down when up. What I think is rotting all of our CNSs is social media and its lack of attention through line.
I experienced a whole body relaxation about 2 weeks after stopping caffeine. Like you said, it was the calmest i may have been since i was under 16 when it all began.
The withdrawal from caffeine for me is so unpleasant and prolonged it shocked me. It’s a powerful drug. Has to be said though that staying off it for a year I can’t say I felt any different. A day in Paris and a cafe had me back on it. Those first coffees are wonderful.
I keep to one in the morning and one at midday.
I have had coffee cure a panic attack and I now know smoking causes anxiety because it dumps chemicals to calm you instantly then you got the rebound real quick
My God! You guys are awesome.
They never ask if an anxious person is being abused either.
Oh my. God led me to here. I'm sure of it. I'm a smoker and coffee AND asthmatic. I've also have been off Effexor for eight months of 20 years because of shocking side effects, parasomnia, constant night terrors and terrible constipation. I never in that time put it down to Effexor. My poor kids as children having to wake me up , screaming. Last week under a therapist I went on Zoloft. I had every side effect in the book ,shaking, stomach issues, massive headaches, dark, dark thoughts, including suicidal ideation, loss of appetite to where food repulsed me,to where I nearly called an ambulance, twice to get to a psyche ward. This was in 7 days. Dr told me to push through . I thought what the heck is happening to my brain.I said , no way.
Still drinking coffee and smoking and Dr put me on zanax for my panic attacks in the morning for a month. Now that I hear this I think I'll quit the 3 of them. Of course smoking is the hardest for me after 40 years.
Love this channel. Thankyou from fellow Aussie 🙏
Edit. Me sleep is screwed. Wake up with impending doom and panic attacks. Didn't happen on Effexor. I'm thinking maybe it's because all my trauma was coming out, audibly during my sleep but now it's sitting in my brain and attacks me when I wake up 🙅♀️
I don’t mean to alarm you but have you ever had an EEG? Your symptoms sound like they could be temporal lobe epilepsy. I should know. Many of my TLE symptoms were reminiscent of what you described.
Listen to more Dr Josef videos. Antidepressant tolerance and withdrawal can be brutal. Your symptoms are common for withdrawal.
Ptsd is the pHarma medical Maria's spindoctoring. These symptoms are from meds and withdrawal. Don't forget all the other pHarma since birth
Its not temporal lobe epilepsy ... all that stuff waitwhat564 is describing is directly from the psych meds i experienced it all the horrific nightmares the waking up with intense impending doom like you are about to be thrown into hell by the devil. The pins and needles feeling everywhere the burning head on fire the headaches like your head is being squeezed in a vice.. its all from the psych pills
You're getting polydrugged taking xanax and zoloft during effexor withdrawal... its messing you up even more.. you cant just jump from one drug to another you have to taper really slow off one. Effexor is a super tough one to get off of it has to be tapered really slow. Then adding a benzo like xanax and ssri like zoloft is just complicating the withdrawal. Im guessing your psychiatrist is ignorant and rapidly took you off effexor then tossed you xanax and zoloft like its candy.
For me all the way around, i started using nicotine dude anhedonia from pssd
I'm like a junkie for coffee and nicotine lozenges. I'm desperate to quit but I haven't managed it yet. If I don't have my coffee in the morning I feel like I have no will to live! But there are so many reasons to quit!
As someone who has recently quit, just SLOWLY taper on the coffee by cutting your regular caffeine coffee with decaf. It works.
Coffee gives me anxiety and messes me up. I would smoke cigarettes and cigars during withdrawal just to cope with the lonliness and misery and it just gave me a dopamine effect short term and then a crash it is also adds another thing to have to withdraw your nervous system from.
Caffeine needs more every day to counteract the chemical making us feel like shit. So in 2 years ,many of us are up to 5+ cups of coffee, multiple sodas a day, chocolate bars every day.
Injuries do occur with abrupt cessation of stimulants.
Stopping amphetamine abruptly can prompt akathisia.
I don't drink alcohol because it makes me feel awful, I get super sad and gives me insomnia; I don't smoke either. I do take coffee but not too much. I do have a lot of stress because I do have endometriose; and I'm so tired all the time.
Nicoles like. Hmm you quit coffee. Nice….
I stopped coffee while tapering. Still on Nicotine though. Im in severe WD and not ready yet to stopp Nicotine but i should.
Two of my favorite INES!
I have always warned to avoid all "ines"
I smoked and drank coffee and wine once in awhile and it was not a gateway drug for me. I’ve never had an addictive personality
Akathisia regressed me into a child like state i lost my mind that and the sleep deprivation of getting 2 hours of sleep a night for over a year and a half i went into psychosis
I have insomnia after quit nicotine and coffeein now i use nicotine patch 😢
what is a PE (I'm from Spain)
Could you please put the vape company
God work Nicole 💜
I think ppl who desire caffeine are already depressish
My God
We learn before the age of 10, Coca-Cola....
too long
so your from Australia that explains a lot
hes got it backwards , use of anti depressants leads to caffeine and nicotine use
Nah, caffeine and nicotine make people anxious and stressed, and therefor think that they need and SSRI or benzo.
When i was put on effexor its a stimulating antidepressant that absolutely made me crave nicotine and caffeine. As i taper off, my desire for these has subsided as well.
I had a co-worker who’s on benzodiazepine and antidepressants who drink like 2-3 cups of coffee on a daily basis. I quit coffee and switch to tea. I sleep better and no more panic attacks and paranoid thoughts.
I've encountered many folks, too, who started drinking bc of ADs and benzos!
I was prescribed Bupropion 150xl 1month, month 2 into 300xl for depression and nicotine cessation(smoked about 7-9 ciggs a day or hqd cuvie vape 1200 puff a day). I had only quit nicotine cold turkey and had acute psychosis after day 3 without Bupropion, the withdrawal symptoms were wild.
after being prescribed bupropion I'm already 2 weeks free of nicotine with pretty little cravings and withdrawal. Bupropion blocks nicotine receptors in the brain, ridding the satisfaction of smoking them. Still drinking coffee but that's one vice down.
I can't even begin to tell you how laughable this is and the ignorance these kinds of stressors play on your life. Just the fact that you worked for the corrupt FDA would keep anyone with a sliver of a conscious from sleeping at night. Yet this guy blames it on a cup of coffee and a nicotine patch. This is pathetic, this guy needs a good therapist, he has zero logic.
V0cal fry…😮
🙉
That lady always looks angry or pissed about something.
Could be because she's trying to do good work and there's always some jackass in the comments talking about appearances or something else irrelevant to the topic.
@@Meh-wd This is a perfect reply to the negative assholes in the comment sections on psych med help videos. I love it.
Could be because she’s been iatrogenic injured with protracted WD and lost many years to this. I feel the same after long term SSRI and now in severe WD.
Both substances cause my already horrific anxiety to go even higher. I do not use either anymore.