The Onelaser logo looks a lot like OnePlus. BTW the depth category should include depth using a riser if one is available. It should also highlight Z axis type, because this affects some features like being able to do curved surface engraving.
Really like your video's it been helping with narrowing down what i want to buy for my starting small buisness. been going trough most of your reviews in my search!!
I Think You Should Have Figured In Cost Of Accessories / Add-Ons / Upgrades With This Video. i.e. Risers (Mentioned) + Rotary (Touched On) + Pass Through + Air Assist + Air Filters + Exhaust + Fire Safety + Ease Of Maintenance = True Overall Cost Of Ownership!
I kept my eye on the xtool p2s since mine will be here in a few weeks. I think the riser would help the z axis scoring, but not much else. However, I was happy to see it not vary as much, thanks ANOVA! Good review. Much appreciated.
I would be very interested in seeing a video comparing RF vs Glass tube power like you mentioned. Thunder Laser markets the Bolt's 30w RF tube as being equivalent to a 60w glass tube, but when you look at the cut settings they publish, they say their 30w RF tube can cut through 3mm birch ply at 10mm/s at 90% power, while the 60w glass tube can do 45mm/s at 90% power. That doesn't sound very equivalent.
@@1-Nice-Guy Do you suggest a Thunder Bolt or do you prefer something else because of the misleading claims? In other words, would it be a good idea to invest in a Thunder Bolt, or a OneLaser, or something entirely different?
I think adding the price of each product alongside the ratings at the end of the video would make it clearer. Or maybe rank them by price range, since comparing a $9999 machine with those around $2000-$4000 feels a bit unfair. After all, you get what you pay for.
I've got the price in there at the beginning and I thought the end. I wanted to make all the categories equal, but price might play a bigger factor for different people.
First of all, great review and categorization of thoose lasers! However, as a beginner, I feel like some essential information is missing, especially for desktop models. Next year, I plan to start working with small parts, around 1-4 cm thick. I mostly need engraving, and I’d like to work on multiple pieces at once (potentially different sizes but the same height), letting the laser run while I do other tasks. For this, the laser should have the capability to automatically detect the position of the workpieces and center engravings, like texts or QR codes. Otherwise, I would have to manually measure and align each piece to the 0,0 point. For example, if one piece is 50mm wide and another is 52mm wide, and I want a QR code centered, the laser should be able to automatically center it if needed. This is especially important when dealing with multiple pieces lying next to each other. I can't rely on precise X, Y coordinates because the pieces might not always be perfectly aligned, or there could be a 1-2 mm gap between them, which could throw off the centering of the engravings.
I came across the Monport Reno45 Desktop CO2. Do you have any knowledge of it. In your previous video with the list it isn't listed with your desktop CO2 machines. Right now it is on sale for $1000. I like the cutting size area (16x12) that is available. Would this be a good buy? I had looked at the OmTech one that is smaller because I have a limited budget but the fact this is auto focus and larger cutting area seems better.
I would have given Glowforge a 1 for speed and acceleration. The fact that they won't publish those values is deceptive. I also would have given them a 1 in the software category, as their app is just awful.
The HEXA as a une advantage then all these competitors, and that is the volume capacity beeing totally closed. That should value more then 1 point because that’s in real life what reall matters
If I could ask one thing, this would be it, when you folks(influencers/TH-camrs/content creators in general make these types of Videos - reviews, info on products etc., is that you would include your opinion (or test results)on the maintenance processes, are they the same or is there a brand that has out performed the rest with how little maintenance or even the level of difficulty is between all these difference "similar" products.
I have the GlowForge standard 40W. What a giant piece of shit this machine is along with the miserable online required software. Have to be online or you won’t work,,, ever. I’ll never buy anything GlowForge again.
Glowforge is like Apple, depends on the more naive Americans (Glowforge almost doesn't exist in Europe). Just like Apple depends on the same demographic (worldwide Apple has barely 27% but they are almost 60% in US) Besides US people, nobody in his right mind is okay with paying hundreds of dollars of subscription for a product that costs thousands of dollars and be forced to be online to use it (just like Apple force you to upload your favorite ringtone through iTunes, you cannot just drag and drop the file on your phone like on every other phone)
I backed the Glowforge kickstarter, and was mightily disappointed in every aspect of that machine. The resisted my request for a return + refund until we cornered and harried a sales rep at the San Francisco Maker Faire.
All lasers are great, but! bought 2 Xtool pro both failed within one year, bought 4 Creality 2/ 20 watt and 3 have failed within a month. how about doing a video about service people get after sales. so far service is terrible to non existing with both companies.
I haven’t but the best I can tell it’s now just a black version of the 55W. I should have done a better job mentioning it in the video it wasn’t the Gweike and OMTech are bad machines, they are just at the bottom in terms of performance vs the others. But they also are the vheapest
The Onelaser logo looks a lot like OnePlus.
BTW the depth category should include depth using a riser if one is available.
It should also highlight Z axis type, because this affects some features like being able to do curved surface engraving.
I am looking forward to what Onelaser shows in a few days.
same
Really like your video's it been helping with narrowing down what i want to buy for my starting small buisness. been going trough most of your reviews in my search!!
Great to hear!
I Think You Should Have Figured In Cost Of Accessories / Add-Ons / Upgrades With This Video.
i.e. Risers (Mentioned) + Rotary (Touched On) + Pass Through + Air Assist + Air Filters + Exhaust + Fire Safety + Ease Of Maintenance = True Overall Cost Of Ownership!
good idea for the next version of this video.
Awaiting Your Honest Hands On Review Of SwiftShape Elite…
When you add all that up, you might as well get a Thunder Laser Bolt.
I kept my eye on the xtool p2s since mine will be here in a few weeks. I think the riser would help the z axis scoring, but not much else. However, I was happy to see it not vary as much, thanks ANOVA! Good review. Much appreciated.
It also makes it possible to engrave on non-flat surfaces and support conveyor feeder.
This is SO informative, thank you :) My husband and I are starting a biz and very much need guidance on the best option.
I would be very interested in seeing a video comparing RF vs Glass tube power like you mentioned. Thunder Laser markets the Bolt's 30w RF tube as being equivalent to a 60w glass tube, but when you look at the cut settings they publish, they say their 30w RF tube can cut through 3mm birch ply at 10mm/s at 90% power, while the 60w glass tube can do 45mm/s at 90% power. That doesn't sound very equivalent.
@@1-Nice-Guy Do you suggest a Thunder Bolt or do you prefer something else because of the misleading claims? In other words, would it be a good idea to invest in a Thunder Bolt, or a OneLaser, or something entirely different?
Going to stroke a big check this month. Thanks for helping with my DD.
Have you heard of the swiftshape lx30. It's on kickstarter right now and looks interesting, but I'm a little skeptical.
Just seen stuff about them but don’t have any contact
Impressive video! All those numbers, the information and the details. Thank you so much. I learned a lot more about lasers today thanks to you.
Hope it helped, thanks for watching!
I think adding the price of each product alongside the ratings at the end of the video would make it clearer. Or maybe rank them by price range, since comparing a $9999 machine with those around $2000-$4000 feels a bit unfair. After all, you get what you pay for.
I've got the price in there at the beginning and I thought the end. I wanted to make all the categories equal, but price might play a bigger factor for different people.
First of all, great review and categorization of thoose lasers! However, as a beginner, I feel like some essential information is missing, especially for desktop models. Next year, I plan to start working with small parts, around 1-4 cm thick. I mostly need engraving, and I’d like to work on multiple pieces at once (potentially different sizes but the same height), letting the laser run while I do other tasks. For this, the laser should have the capability to automatically detect the position of the workpieces and center engravings, like texts or QR codes. Otherwise, I would have to manually measure and align each piece to the 0,0 point. For example, if one piece is 50mm wide and another is 52mm wide, and I want a QR code centered, the laser should be able to automatically center it if needed. This is especially important when dealing with multiple pieces lying next to each other. I can't rely on precise X, Y coordinates because the pieces might not always be perfectly aligned, or there could be a 1-2 mm gap between them, which could throw off the centering of the engravings.
Check out the xTool P2, its camera can do automatic positioning for bulk items
I came across the Monport Reno45 Desktop CO2. Do you have any knowledge of it. In your previous video with the list it isn't listed with your desktop CO2 machines. Right now it is on sale for $1000. I like the cutting size area (16x12) that is available. Would this be a good buy? I had looked at the OmTech one that is smaller because I have a limited budget but the fact this is auto focus and larger cutting area seems better.
I think it would be nice if you could include expected maintenance costs, for my laser engraver parts are very difficult to get.
good call
I bought a Glowforge (40w) during the kickstarter, and while I don't regret buying it, I certainly wouldn't buy it again if it broke today.
Great video
So... The very BEST laser, does not, and may not EVER, exist. Brilliant.
Yep, that’s why I didn’t mention them till the end
Thanks, that saved me time
I saw their product review videos last week, seems nailed it.
I was hoping you would have AP lasers on the list
I need to add them next time.
I would have given Glowforge a 1 for speed and acceleration. The fact that they won't publish those values is deceptive. I also would have given them a 1 in the software category, as their app is just awful.
Totally get that
Thunder Bolt is best bang for buck by far, especially for an RF. Should be #1.
If you put more emphasis on price than I did then it totally would be.
Best bang for your buck, "AND" from a trusted brand that has proven itself over the years.
and where would it land the gweike rf ?
The HEXA as a une advantage then all these competitors, and that is the volume capacity beeing totally closed. That should value more then 1 point because that’s in real life what reall matters
If I could ask one thing, this would be it, when you folks(influencers/TH-camrs/content creators in general make these types of Videos - reviews, info on products etc., is that you would include your opinion (or test results)on the maintenance processes, are they the same or is there a brand that has out performed the rest with how little maintenance or even the level of difficulty is between all these difference "similar" products.
@@1-Nice-Guy I am in no way saying what you are saying, and I do not support your comment in anyway. just to be clear. cheers!
@@guindonmike let me rephrase it…why do you think reviewers never post their personal opinions?
Great point, I’ll include that in the future!
Im looking for a video of CO2 with camera
7:32. Top speed 3,500mm/s Not 35,000mm/s
Defeated by metric again
I have the GlowForge standard 40W. What a giant piece of shit this machine is along with the miserable online required software. Have to be online or you won’t work,,, ever. I’ll never buy anything GlowForge again.
Glowforge is like Apple, depends on the more naive Americans (Glowforge almost doesn't exist in Europe). Just like Apple depends on the same demographic (worldwide Apple has barely 27% but they are almost 60% in US)
Besides US people, nobody in his right mind is okay with paying hundreds of dollars of subscription for a product that costs thousands of dollars and be forced to be online to use it (just like Apple force you to upload your favorite ringtone through iTunes, you cannot just drag and drop the file on your phone like on every other phone)
I backed the Glowforge kickstarter, and was mightily disappointed in every aspect of that machine. The resisted my request for a return + refund until we cornered and harried a sales rep at the San Francisco Maker Faire.
Oh for fucks sake, i just bought the regular polar!
hahaha
Trotec Speedy?
Need to add it next time, I can never get good pricing on Trotec..they always want to just setup a phone call.
All lasers are great, but! bought 2 Xtool pro both failed within one year, bought 4 Creality 2/ 20 watt and 3 have failed within a month.
how about doing a video about service people get after sales. so far service is terrible to non existing with both companies.
Hi did you already get your Hands on the Monport Onyx 55W CO2 Laser? Is it any good?
If no, what didnt you like about it?
Thanks!
I haven’t but the best I can tell it’s now just a black version of the 55W. I should have done a better job mentioning it in the video it wasn’t the Gweike and OMTech are bad machines, they are just at the bottom in terms of performance vs the others. But they also are the vheapest
@@makeorbreakshop Thanks for your answer. Did i get it right and its build the same way as Gweike and OMTech or are there differences?
Oh shoot I misread your comment! Gweike also has a black machine, so Monport yep it’s pretty much the same as those
ONYX 55w and OMTECH polar is just same thing
lol considering the price, you pay what you gain.
yep.