Hello Sorin, it is very easy to extract the EC dump portion on the bios. Usually you just search "ENE" or "IT," "ITE" on the bios dump and you will find the exact same SIO block, usually most ec dump are 128k. Lets say when you search for "ITE" you will see it appear at 21 0050, the block will start couple of lines before at 21 0000 in this example. then if the dump is 128kB (128x1024 bytes) this correspond in Hex to a size block of 20000. You need to select and copy data from 21 0000 to 22 FFFF this portion when paste in new hex file will have a size of 128kB.
so in this case if the EC dump is contained in the bios , does that mean that the bios can autoprogram the EC chip so that we can skip the programming?
@andrew_koala2974 ; thank you mister internet/youtube/comments literary professor ; ; english is my fourth language ; ; I will try to follow your advice ; I am glad you gave me 6/10, i would never give myself 3/10.
25:54 Sorin I do a little trick to solder these chips, I first solder one or two pins with my fine tip iron, then I adjust chip completely and then use hot air on opposite side of soldered pin. This way the chip doesn't slip and get soldered perfectly.
Hey, Sorin.. if you want to solder that chip in one take, just use the soldering iron to solder only ONE pin and then you can use the tweezers and the hot air to solder it all. Works every time
Yes Sorin so true, as any product from China is even worse than Russian Roulette as its Chinese Roulette, when you buy anything from China! That MSI Katana GF66 11UG does not have any lights for power or charging, the only RGBs are on the keyboard. MSI introduced this Katana GF66 11UG laptop in May of 2021. The exterior of the simple, yet elegant laptop was designed by the illustrator Nagano Tsuyoshi, an artist who is also known in Japan for his Star Wars covers. According to MSI, the Katana laptop was created with the same high craftsmanship that is also necessary for creating the famous Katana Japanese swords. One of the configurations of this laptop comes with the Intel Core i7-11800H, 16 GB of RAM, and an Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070, and 512 GB NVMe SSD that promises a gaming high performance. Enjoyed this episode of your fantastic repairs Sorin and keep it up, as this is very interesting to know and see how a PROFESSIONAL REPAIRMAN does things 👍😁
I can't imagine the sheer amount of patience needed to be a repair technician. Very impressive and relatable. Especially when you said, "the story of my life" with frustration. My desktop motherboard (MSI) just died with "overcurrent usb device" error. Repair technician said the "core chip" died and they are not willing to source one. So I can highly relate to this video and wish I had Sorin check my motherboard. Greetings from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
I love how you can use your time machine so that instead of waiting 3 weeks the next part of the video is there immediately ;) It would certainly be interesting to see how the old chip behaves in the programmer.
Hello Sorin, great job, seeing you solder the chip seems easy, but it is very tedious and complicated, there should be a positioner that you could see and correct on the screen until it is in place. Great job as always, I would love to spend some time working with you and learning, greetings from Spain.
trick was using wrong one Sorin found to use the first 8 bits hex as example to search in main bin (hoping it was similar on the first 8 bits and it was). and the rest is easy.. (Ctrl E to) select size in Hxd hexeditor from beginning to end 128KB = 20000 😎 i dont work at shop in over 8 yrs, instead i work remote support w a company (steady work and insurance) so i had time to learn bios and software w cases from local tech friends.
that black was clearly liquid dmg which actually burned ic probably on first place and it was standing 3 weeks like that so it get wierd look probably. Amazing holy macaroni ! good job !
Based on my experience buying from china and also i have a Chinese friend who guided me on how to buy from China. You should chat with the seller to send you an A+ product the price will be different and they will test it for you i bought an LCD monitor and it was almost original because I asked for A+ because the normal one is less than 10% of the displayed price. So in conclusion you need to chat with them several times until you find the correct one.
it would be great to re-program the old IO chip and make sure it's dead maybe it needed only the software.. please make a video if you still have the old IO chip
good day to you sir i have a question for you is there a way to make laptop auto start in a power cut the laptop dont have the features in the bios i dont have battery for the laptop is there a way to power laptop from a 12 volt battery
A laptop nowadays needs 19v or somewhere around the 19v, look at the label on the back how much is input. 12v will definitely not work ,or you need to make something to crank up the 12v.
I have a module coming for my car from China. I am hoping tomorrow when it gets here it also works like your io chip today God willing. It is unavailable from Chrysler and have checked all over.. was going to have my son down in Texas remove one used from a car,, but if this one works I will be happy because my air conditioning in my car won't work without it. I may tear apart the old one to fix it maybe. Hope to.
Sorin, 2 questions if you can 1. Can it possible to retrieve a program from a dead IO chip ? 2. When you solder the IO chip, can it possible first to solder the side pins with a solder and the rest with a heat gun (like we do with all connectors, at least I do ) ?
Hi. My acer notebook suddenly shut down and I realized a tiny drop of water on the IO chip it has the exact IO chip ene the drop was probably slipped from an ice cream package i put over touch pad. Then I used a paper towel to speak the drop, drop was over the Black plastic part then I also paper toweled around it. After an hour I powered on the acer logo came then it shot down again. How likely that the chip is short circuited? What can you think the problem might be? Since acer logo came I thought the chip should be Okay but then why it shot down? Now I unplugged the notebook and planning to power it tomorrow. Any comment will be great. Thanks
ENE is a company that programming this chip that's why Sorin says about programming he needs the ENE "file" ENE it's like ITE company etc there are also other manufacturers
Hello Sorin, I hope you're keeping well. I have a question about my Dell laptop. I have an Inspiron 15 3567 with amd Dedicated Graphics. My trouble is that the laptop just completely powers off suddenly when using. This happens on both battery and AC power adapter (without battery) and even when both are plugged in together. Also this can happen in BIOS and windows. Some other details: It appears that as the shutdowns become more frequent, the laptop does not want to recover and keeps getting worse. Sometimes, after these power cuts the laptop does not even turn on, or charge. It needs to be BIOS reset. I think there is a problem in the power IC but don't know where to start, if you can help I would be very grateful
so i had my gf66 lose power while in bios charger wasnt plugged in. since then i havent gotten it to post at all the laptop turns on and keyboard is responsive for about 5 sek then nothing what could be the problem?:)
Hello, I'm trying to reprogram EC chip via keyboard connector. Not sure if everyone aware, many MSI laptops EC can be flashed via CH341a through the keyboard connector. Does anyone know MSI keyboard connector pin pitch? is it 0.5mm usually?
Hi there @electronicsrepairschool I need your help I have a acer laptop my hinge is broken but my charging port is still working my power button is broken and not working my laptop does not want to come on. How can I fix this problem
The super io is faulty, it's supposed to take like 10 mA all the time and you saw Sorin tried to supply the voltage directly to the SIO, and concluded that the chip is faulty
greetings. I need your help for some reason I can not join the discord page. it keeps giving me a message that the invite is unacceptable. any idea why? thanks
Sorin, we will always have to take the risk of buying chips fron China because unfortunately the Mexicans or Colombians they don't do cheaps.... If you know what I mean. The chinnese are the ones who make cheaps good or bad.
@ KP electronics: Is there a free trade agreement for North America? Canada, USA and Mexico? Do the Quality Control agencies, governmental or private, from the first two countries mentioned, accept low quality products? Will there be sanctions or lawsuits in international trade between the three of them? A respectful greeting from Mexico.
@@carlosgarciaoropeza5480 I'm from DR budy, we just manufacture béisbol players 😂 😂 like you Méxicans only do boxers and tequila. Yes you have a lot of consesions from companoes like Samsung, Hyundai and some others but that doesn't mean your are the creators, your just cheap manufacture for america for those companies
@@kpelectronics Understood. Thanks for your answer. I like to install new components (mainly the critical ones) in my repairs. Risk? Well, you'll have to take it. Thanks again. All the best.
you are not a professional, you are top elite technician, some one who clame is a professional has always limited knowledge, they just learn how to speak in a way that makes them look professional, which makes most of them just liars XD, the professional is someone who never stop learning, because he knows that its endless and there is always new things to learn in life and technology.
Sorin. This is a "difficult " haha comment. I just visit your web side and read every line and I end really disappointed, why? B'cos I dont found our "Grito de guerra" """""PROPER CALIBRATED FUSE """"" AND """NEVER PUT BACK A CAP""" GREETING TO EVERYONE WHO READ THIS.
the real teacher, you never blamed anyone who did the disaster.
Salute Big Teacher.
" Everybody is not Perfect, even the Pro Person has weaknesses "
Hello Sorin, it is very easy to extract the EC dump portion on the bios. Usually you just search "ENE" or "IT," "ITE" on the bios dump and you will find the exact same SIO block, usually most ec dump are 128k. Lets say when you search for "ITE" you will see it appear at 21 0050, the block will start couple of lines before at 21 0000 in this example. then if the dump is 128kB (128x1024 bytes) this correspond in Hex to a size block of 20000. You need to select and copy data from 21 0000 to 22 FFFF this portion when paste in new hex file will have a size of 128kB.
good info, thanks.
Thanks for your tips, but it's hard to find the good block, in this case. The start block is far away from ENE. What do you think?
so in this case if the EC dump is contained in the bios , does that mean that the bios can autoprogram the EC chip so that we can skip the programming?
@@orange11squares only for Asus and some other platform the ec chip will be autoprogrammed from the bios, however the EC or SIO chip must be empty.
@andrew_koala2974
; thank you mister internet/youtube/comments literary professor ;
; english is my fourth language ;
; I will try to follow your advice ;
I am glad you gave me 6/10, i would never give myself 3/10.
25:54
Sorin I do a little trick to solder these chips, I first solder one or two pins with my fine tip iron, then I adjust chip completely and then use hot air on opposite side of soldered pin. This way the chip doesn't slip and get soldered perfectly.
انگار همه ایرانی ها این کار رو میکنند😂
@@Hejazi1365 ها؟
@@mohammadrezamim272 ادیت شد.
It was just a typo, bro
@@Hejazi1365 آره خب خیلی راحت تره
عجیب بود برام که سورین انجامش نمیده اینقد دردسر میکشه ای سی رو بچسبونه
@@mohammadrezamim272 نه معمولا مثل کره لحیم میکنه. بعضی اوقات دیگه نمی شه دیگه
Perfect is boring... No explosion! It's working! Love you, Sorin!
Extracting EC Firmware from the BIOS. Well well well, now that is definitely something we should have on the new forum! 💯💯💯
Hey, Sorin.. if you want to solder that chip in one take, just use the soldering iron to solder only ONE pin and then you can use the tweezers and the hot air to solder it all. Works every time
Yes Sorin so true, as any product from China is even worse than Russian Roulette as its Chinese Roulette, when you buy anything from China! That MSI Katana GF66 11UG does not have any lights for power or charging, the only RGBs are on the keyboard. MSI introduced this Katana GF66 11UG laptop in May of 2021. The exterior of the simple, yet elegant laptop was designed by the illustrator Nagano Tsuyoshi, an artist who is also known in Japan for his Star Wars covers. According to MSI, the Katana laptop was created with the same high craftsmanship that is also necessary for creating the famous Katana Japanese swords. One of the configurations of this laptop comes with the Intel Core i7-11800H, 16 GB of RAM, and an Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070, and 512 GB NVMe SSD that promises a gaming high performance. Enjoyed this episode of your fantastic repairs Sorin and keep it up, as this is very interesting to know and see how a PROFESSIONAL REPAIRMAN does things 👍😁
Sorin your confidence is so infectious. You have made me believe in myself and my repair abilities. Thank you for this channel.
I can't imagine the sheer amount of patience needed to be a repair technician. Very impressive and relatable. Especially when you said, "the story of my life" with frustration.
My desktop motherboard (MSI) just died with "overcurrent usb device" error. Repair technician said the "core chip" died and they are not willing to source one. So I can highly relate to this video and wish I had Sorin check my motherboard.
Greetings from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Sorin's method works , had to fix my car ecu put a bit of power and lighter petrol and found a shorted bi-directional diode well happy
I like that moment of suspense , every repair : is it working ? IT IS , IT IS
"I am still learning", that is so humble of you Sir. Love ❤ from Bangladesh.
I love how you can use your time machine so that instead of waiting 3 weeks the next part of the video is there immediately ;)
It would certainly be interesting to see how the old chip behaves in the programmer.
I learn from every video. I just ordered my first hot air station. Thanks Sorin!
We believe Sorin ! you are on another level in computer repair and teaching !
Perfect, Profesional.! Im Slovak fan.
Sorin, the great teacher. Thanks for all what you do for the community.
Complicated job , Thanks for showing each & every steps.
Initial technicians may try many thing to achieve goals.
Thank you so much sir❤ your are the best laptop repair technician ever. ආයුබොවන්❤
_it is working when everyone done the job properly_ by Sorin
Sorin, you have evolved and lucky to have time.
I appreciate the video. It is an inspiring source with good vibe.
Verry good job Sorin
Sorin addiction ❤
"Nothing exploded, we're fine ... !"🤣😂🤣
Very nice job and the satisfaction of fix that you can not explain it.
thank you sorin you are great man
God bless you sorin. Live long❤
Hello Sorin, great job, seeing you solder the chip seems easy, but it is very tedious and complicated, there should be a positioner that you could see and correct on the screen until it is in place. Great job as always, I would love to spend some time working with you and learning, greetings from Spain.
Sorin the best
Drinking and eating in the Kitchen, than no damage on elektronic 🙂
Good job mate 👍
I'm watching from pakistan, good job sorin ❤
Very efficient troubleshooting! Nice
trick was using wrong one Sorin found to use the first 8 bits hex as example to search in main bin (hoping it was similar on the first 8 bits and it was).
and the rest is easy.. (Ctrl E to) select size in Hxd hexeditor from beginning to end 128KB = 20000 😎
i dont work at shop in over 8 yrs, instead i work remote support w a company (steady work and insurance) so i had time to learn bios and software w cases from local tech friends.
that black was clearly liquid dmg which actually burned ic probably on first place and it was standing 3 weeks like that so it get wierd look probably. Amazing holy macaroni ! good job !
Nice mr sorin
Great great great job sir 👍
i like you man ... my teacher
The charging LED is right on the adapter connector side a very tiny dot like indicator
Smooth as usual
Just awesome great work. Wish you could have a go at my laptop she is dead to😢
good job 🙂
Based on my experience buying from china and also i have a Chinese friend who guided me on how to buy from China.
You should chat with the seller to send you an A+ product the price will be different and they will test it for you i bought an LCD monitor and it was almost original because I asked for A+ because the normal one is less than 10% of the displayed price. So in conclusion you need to chat with them several times until you find the correct one.
not so easy with chips there is a lot of fakes out there.
@@Amraks it's big Market and not easy
Hi Sorin, why are you using hotair instead of flux and an iron for this kind of chip ??? BUT OTHERWISE Great job with programming this chip 👍👍👍👍👍
it would be great to re-program the old IO chip and make sure it's dead maybe it needed only the software.. please make a video if you still have the old IO chip
Hello sorin! Thank you for the video
Please which EPROM programmer would you recommend?
Nice one 🎉🎉
Hi. What's is the adapter you bought? Can you give a link to us, please?
Thanks
Thanks for the vidéo, is it possible the EC chip just has a bad program in? And it has just to be program, and not replace?
Hello 🤝Good job 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👋👋👋👋👋
Rule no1
Always when bios battery out you have to wait more time for the "first" boot
Hello Sorin, Where do you buy the machine bios flash fo SIO chip, please help me!!
charging light would be placed beisde the charging port but i have question please ... why did you leave the 2nd fan not working ?
Ati msi cool 😮😊😊😊
good day to you sir i have a question for you is there a way to make laptop auto start in a power cut the laptop dont have the features in the bios i dont have battery for the laptop is there a way to power laptop from a 12 volt battery
A laptop nowadays needs 19v or somewhere around the 19v, look at the label on the back how much is input. 12v will definitely not work ,or you need to make something to crank up the 12v.
I have a module coming for my car from China. I am hoping tomorrow when it gets here it also works like your io chip today God willing. It is unavailable from Chrysler and have checked all over.. was going to have my son down in Texas remove one used from a car,, but if this one works I will be happy because my air conditioning in my car won't work without it. I may tear apart the old one to fix it maybe. Hope to.
Hahaha 😊success and thank you for sharing.
Sorin, 2 questions if you can
1. Can it possible to retrieve a program from a dead IO chip ?
2. When you solder the IO chip, can it possible first to solder the side pins with a solder and the rest with a heat gun (like we do with all connectors, at least I do ) ?
1. No, 2. yes, can be soldered in many ways, use what is working for you
Hi. My acer notebook suddenly shut down and I realized a tiny drop of water on the IO chip it has the exact IO chip ene the drop was probably slipped from an ice cream package i put over touch pad. Then I used a paper towel to speak the drop, drop was over the Black plastic part then I also paper toweled around it. After an hour I powered on the acer logo came then it shot down again. How likely that the chip is short circuited? What can you think the problem might be? Since acer logo came I thought the chip should be Okay but then why it shot down? Now I unplugged the notebook and planning to power it tomorrow. Any comment will be great. Thanks
ENE is a company that programming this chip that's why Sorin says about programming he needs the ENE "file"
ENE it's like ITE company etc there are also other manufacturers
but if you solder the chip empty and program it with SVOD from the keyboard connector, would it be possible? From my point of view, it is
Hello Sorin, I hope you're keeping well.
I have a question about my Dell laptop. I have an Inspiron 15 3567 with amd Dedicated Graphics. My trouble is that the laptop just completely powers off suddenly when using. This happens on both battery and AC power adapter (without battery) and even when both are plugged in together. Also this can happen in BIOS and windows.
Some other details:
It appears that as the shutdowns become more frequent, the laptop does not want to recover and keeps getting worse.
Sometimes, after these power cuts the laptop does not even turn on, or charge. It needs to be BIOS reset.
I think there is a problem in the power IC but don't know where to start, if you can help I would be very grateful
forum.sorinelectronics.com
How can't you believe? you do this like everyday 😅
Hello sir plz link the website u buyed the svod4 programmer from
maybe its a good idea to download the bios and reflash it after
so i had my gf66 lose power while in bios charger wasnt plugged in. since then i havent gotten it to post at all the laptop turns on and keyboard is responsive for about 5 sek then nothing what could be the problem?:)
Hello, I'm trying to reprogram EC chip via keyboard connector. Not sure if everyone aware, many MSI laptops EC can be flashed via CH341a through the keyboard connector. Does anyone know MSI keyboard connector pin pitch? is it 0.5mm usually?
Sorin where should we buy chips then?
Taiwan.. its not China
Mouser, Arrow, Digikey.. good luck
Hi there @electronicsrepairschool I need your help I have a acer laptop my hinge is broken but my charging port is still working my power button is broken and not working my laptop does not want to come on. How can I fix this problem
🎉 goood
can't see coffee today, is it a private forum.....?
i havent watched you for a while, but as i understand you stopped working at the shop? are you like just working for yourself now?
Please I need HP 14-am002ne workout.
Nice job Sorin. China came through on this one 😉. I wonder if you can read the firmware from the faulty chip?
Unfortunately not
Svod 4 win🎉😅
I have the same laptop I accidentally. Reversed polity. I think I killed the io chip how do I send it to you I'm in england
" This is a noice laptop " :)
when you look is it charging your voltage is 3,3 on bench look... or you didnt used your universal charger didnt look :)
The super io is faulty, it's supposed to take like 10 mA all the time and you saw Sorin tried to supply the voltage directly to the SIO, and concluded that the chip is faulty
Not rust, but dried strawberry juice probably.
Why Ec SIO chips fail so much?
Indeed why, especially on the newer gaming laptops.
@@JayPrakash-th4rd i hate windows update. it always fail and restart until my laptop get destroyed from this shit
the more pins and circuits it controls .. the more chances.
greetings. I need your help for some reason I can not join the discord page. it keeps giving
me a message that the invite
is unacceptable. any idea why? thanks
Why don't you order at least 2 chips so the next time you are too faster to replace ...
How much do i charge the customer for this in an EU country?
👍👍👌👌
chinese chip roulette , the pain is real.
Sorin, we will always have to take the risk of buying chips fron China because unfortunately the Mexicans or Colombians they don't do cheaps.... If you know what I mean. The chinnese are the ones who make cheaps good or bad.
@ KP electronics: Is there a free trade agreement for North America? Canada, USA and Mexico? Do the Quality Control agencies, governmental or private, from the first two countries mentioned, accept low quality products? Will there be sanctions or lawsuits in international trade between the three of them? A respectful greeting from Mexico.
@@carlosgarciaoropeza5480 the point is, chips come from China no matter what. If you wanna take the risk or not its your decition
@@carlosgarciaoropeza5480 I'm from DR budy, we just manufacture béisbol players 😂 😂 like you Méxicans only do boxers and tequila. Yes you have a lot of consesions from companoes like Samsung, Hyundai and some others but that doesn't mean your are the creators, your just cheap manufacture for america for those companies
@@kpelectronics Understood. Thanks for your answer. I like to install new components (mainly the critical ones) in my repairs. Risk? Well, you'll have to take it. Thanks again. All the best.
LOL "buying chips from china is like russian roulette"
you are not a professional, you are top elite technician, some one who clame is a professional has always limited knowledge, they just learn how to speak in a way that makes them look professional, which makes most of them just liars XD, the professional is someone who never stop learning, because he knows that its endless and there is always new things to learn in life and technology.
Sorin. This is a "difficult " haha comment.
I just visit your web side and read every line and I end really disappointed, why?
B'cos I dont found our "Grito de guerra"
"""""PROPER CALIBRATED FUSE """"" AND """NEVER PUT BACK A CAP"""
GREETING TO EVERYONE WHO READ THIS.
LoL
first :D
0:33 just a drop of water to finish with that coolness LOL .[
boomy bass tone. typical northern gutteral tone. hard to listen to