Canadian Prepper if you ever get tired of water dripping down your arms, try a single paddle, takes a little getting use to but once you do, no paddle waving through the air, no more wet hands, it's just getting the side switch down to a smooth and quick motion.
I love both but I do feel that you are miss informed about the depth in witch you can float a canoe. I took my flat bottom 18' canoe down a creek and was able to paddle in 3-4" of water and was able to push with the paddle in the canoe in any water above 2". Honestly I don't know what you are talking about. And I use a double bladed paddle 96" in length, works wonderful.
I would love to have this pelican catch 120, but it's too heavy for me to carry or lift up to the roof of my truck. I'm handicap so I need something light. I already have a 2 person canoe, but if I sell it the one person will cost too much in comparison to what I already have. Nate if your interested in a canoe for the future, I would suggest you check out Wenonah Canoes in Wisconsin. My 2 person canoe is 40 pound Kevlar designed by a Canoe Racer Gene Jensen. It's now worth $3000 new. I know if you paddled this one and carried it on a portage you'd want it. He taught me how the j stroke is wasted energy and if with a partner the hut technique is efficient paddling. Betty Ketter partnered to sell with him, unfortunately she died a number of years ago. You would have loved her. Betty reminded me of the Root beer Lady in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area/Quetico.
I like kayaks for recreation. I've done a few whitewater kayaking trips. For anything serious, I prefer a canoe. Canoes are extremely versatile once you get comfortable with them.
I wish that I had waited for this kayak at the time; I bought it 5 years old on sale, I had added a stroller motor and 12 volts battery on it; my son and I combined weights around 260#, 60# kayak wgt, another 110# of motor and battery, that will gives us room for gears ammunition and foods 100# approx.; we will need three of to move on water for the family of five. I like your set up better and a lot of storages below the decking. Thank you for sharing Sir!
This looks like a fantastic kayak for sure. When you were taking on water did you remove the scupper plugs from the bottom of the kayak to allow the water to drain out. I know sometimes in rougher water water will come up through the scupper holes but for the most part these are designed to allow any water that is taken on by the kayak to drain away. All in all I would say this is a very good kayak for sure. Thanks for sharing brother.
Try a solo canoe, learn the “j” stroke and you have more capability. I’ve hauled a caribou, gear and two paddlers with an 16’ Old Town, no problem. Flip it backward and paddle solo, I’ve hunted and camped this way for almost two decades. Canoes are pretty and lively. Paddling a pelican open top is like paddling a Tupperware container...
The only real benefit to canoes is hauling more stuff, I dont care if something is "pretty" and I dont know what you mean by "lively". I prefer speed, maneuverability, stability, less energy expenditure and portability. You say tupperware but I say a lighter, high density, impact and UV resistant polyethylene that is will never sink. With more than one person or if on a hunting trip than yeah a canoe has its advantages, but with 400 lbs payload capacity for one person thats pretty decent.
Canadian Prepper To each his own. I’d recommend trying a good canoe for comparison, there’s a reason why they’ve been used for expeditions and traveling rivers and lakes for eons. An older royalex tandem canoe that can handle both flat water and Class III rivers weighs about as much as your pelican. It’s easier to portage by flipping it on your shoulders with a built in portage yolk. In terms of turning quick, a canoe with some rocker will be more maneuverable than the flat bottom pelican. The only advantages to the sit on top pelicans are that they’re OK for fishing, roto-molded and therefore cheap to make. Nothing against roto-molded, I’ve used a number of sea kayaks that worked great and handled rocky beaches and surf where fiberglass kayaks can break. If you like the pelican, more power to ya.
jjdogbutte the greatest advantage of the pelican is it can't sink unless you break it in half. It can't swamp like a covered kayak or canoe. Similar boats are used for the ocean more and more.
Im a new subscriber and i like it. I do alot river camping. I have a kayak but I find myself with not enough room for gear. But I'm looking at a Next 119 one person canoe. Lots of room, handling and comfort. But pricey. Just putting my 2 cents worth in. I'll be watching.
I picked up an older model Old Town Guide 119 off Craigslist this past spring. They're a good alternative to the Next and a bit cheaper. I think Old Town calls them the Discovery now and sell the Guide model through Dicks or Field and Stream.
I have this boat, love it and you are right it is very comfortable (only been out on it 3x in the past one and half months since purchasing) and I'm older, not very agile at 62, but could sit in this kayak for quite a while. I to plan to keep it pretty close to factory condition; it has everything I need... plus, I have the crate, the flag, a great paddle, some Scotty accessories (not a TH-camr, so camera work is limited to my phone). Most of the weight capacity is pretty much used up by me at 285 lbs. Additionally, I am in Phoenix, AZ and fishing with my work schedule as a security officer is pretty limited to close to home and on lakes. I have to say it is great fun and I cannot wait every Monday (day off and not many boaters out) to get out in the water. This kayak is one of the best investments I have ever made. At least once a day, I go out in the garage to marvel at this acquisition and question why I never did this sooner.
Thats great to hear Patrick, I look forward to many adventures with this thing! Great to here others have found good value in it, thats very reassuring.
I agree Patrick, I am roughly the same weight and love this thing. I have the catch 120 done with a rear hatch, milk crate with 3 rod holder tie strapped and added a few mounting brackets for a forward Scotty rod holder. I bought it last summer 2017 new for $ 850 Canadian and absolutely love being able to get out on the lake without having to worry about breakdowns and all the crap that comes with having a power boat. As they say B.O.A.T stands for Break Out Another Thousand, I decided to break out the last thousand on the purchase of the Catch and not have anymore maintenance costs. Lucky to have the weekends off and a place to use it regularly....Just waiting patiently for the season to ramp up and get the opportunity to hook a nice size Muskie to pull me around the lake. Cheers from the north
This makes me want to hit the open water I have been too busy to go even once this year.... I may need to make some time now that you gave me the itch. Great video as always!
Well done CP. Living by the Sea I've also considered a new kayak or canoe. Maybe something inflatable!? So I've been watching your kayak Adventures with great interest. One question I have is about the shallow deck. Can you tell us how safe it really is on moderately rough rivers or on the sea? Also how was the water line when you had the kayak loaded up near capacity? Excellent presentation, and thanks for sharing. (Shared, liked, playlist, ...) Julian
I went from kayak to canoe a Novacraft fox 14 solo it’s easy to throw up on your shoulders and carry it for miles. And I can throw a tone of gear in it. And I can go single blade or double. Old town has a 119 sportsman that’s a pack boat canoe kayak hybread
Question CP: have you thought of (or is it possible to be) using the Mono Walker to transport the kayak with gear on a solo excursion through rough/long portages? I ask this because all of the 2 wheeled kayak/canoe transporters I've seen are of flimsy construction.
You should check out Joe Robinet. He uses a canoe all the time. Back country heavy camping. The cool thing is it comes with a yolk for transportation. You can carry both your pack and boat at one time. He goes through porttage picking everything up from one lake going through a trail and placing it in another lake
Just to point out yes I own kayaks only. But I just wouldn't rule out some canoe designs. Granted I know you are doing a product review so wanting to point out many of the features
Canadian Prepper, have you considered making a video, or exploring the idea of making a video about the benefits or damages, of "survival video games," and their psychological impact in our perception of what a survival scenario might actually look like, and perhaps feel at a psychological level? E.g. a video game such as "The Last Of Us." Thank you.
hi. no used the scuper plug . try flapers in the bottom scuper hole . like pice the duck tape . water don't go up and go out very fast . never have water inside again .
Good review and video! Was planning on buying one of these. I owned a Pelican Strike 120 last year which I had to sell. Loved that kayak but this one definitely would suit my purposes better. Thanks.
Have both, advantages and disadvantages in both systems. My personal preference is a canoe with a white water skirt. Higher payload in a bug out situation, easier to portage, better for temporary shelter. However, higher profile, more skill to maneuver when solo, harder to do a self rescue if you tip in the middle of the lake(been there done that). Prefer an enclosed kayak with a skirt if I didn't have my canoe, again being able to self right in a roll over situation. There ya go, my opinion and $2.00 you could get yourself a coffee.
I've been looking at these. I want one so badly and just can't afford it at the moment. But, they are great. A buddy of mine got one and uses it all the time to fish with. It's a great tool to have.
Great video, CP. I plan on buying one of these soon. One thing I'd like to throw out there as a suggestion. Instead of thru bolting whatever you plan to mount to the deck of the kayak, use epoxy. I'll check to see if pelican has an epoxy product that works good for the polyethylene material or find it elsewhere. Of course the more stuff you mount, the more stuff you might break or get tangled up in the brush. I'm in the lower midwest. Maybe in the late spring/early summer I can post some videos of catching catfish and stripers from some of the rivers here to see how our boat handles with larger fish. There's not too many northern pike or muskie where I'm at.
From my way of thinking this would be a great resource to stock at the bug out location in order to function in the environment. I'm in a city so for my "point A to point B" aspect of a bug out I require a car or bicycle. Although, this would be a great tool to transition from the urban/city bug out and then move from mainland to an island or perhaps a rendezvous with a larger boat.....
That’s a nice set up Nate. I really like the sturdiness of this kayak, the flexibility and stability. As a lone wolf set it would. be great. to The only worry I would have with a kayak is the weight limitation. A canoe can carry 2 people and gear. I still plan on buying a canoe next summer, you haven’t convinced me yet that a kayak is the better choice, but this one sure has me thinking. Thanks Buddy, stay safe. 👍
Two kayaks a few poles a roll out bamboo rug to form a platform and your off the ground that you can pitch a shelter on? Be it on land or on the water? ; )
...my ark is a Saturn 385XL Kaboat, Merc 6 hp 4-stroke, and a Stohlquist EZ drysuit...will probably add some sort of inflatable barge to tow more "stuff"......or...a kayak?
For fun and exercize I like a sit on top kayak. For survival and general use I like a canoe better. I would add floats in the bow and stern for long distance and rough water. That’s just me.
Take two kayaks hollow each one out then glue the two together. then make a water tight access door forward and aft of the utility kayak to handle your survival goods yall don't want to gets wet. You could even design this system to have a anchor to hold it below water keeping all your survival goods in a neat place that you can raise when you need the supplies. ; )
The slit on the paddle is actually a lure retriever. It's saved my butt a few times getting expensive swimbaits out of trees/brush. I'm stuck between the pelican catch 120 or the emotion stealth pro. Do you feel like you need to add a skeg to the catch to help with tracking?
Hi, I am a mom of two littles and looking for recommendations. I am new to kayaking but wonder what is safer, a kayak or a canoe? Also if you have any recommendations. My kids and I love exploring, camping and hiking but not fishing. We are looking for something to solo te rivers and lakes. Thank you 😊
Great video. Great angles and views. High quality video. Very informational. Great review on this particular kayak. You seem to be very knowledgeable but why did you not simply remove the scupper plugs when you were taking on water? This boat is designed with several scuppers and a self bailing design. Were you weighted down to the extent that your deck was below the waterline? Thanks!
I like it ..but not sure for most southern lake an swamp areas in my area. The ever glades with the aggressive water snakes like the water moccasin an crocks an Cayman's..But for the northern areas see this as a win.
Ive been in oman for close to 2 years we got three pelican kayaks we got them in the shade for 9 hours or so they hold up good even agaist stupid mistakes and hitting rock i dont know which one i got but it was the cheapest i could find and i havent had a problem yet.
Just two things from me on this one. First, ...a question. I would be curious as to the volume of water these models can "take on" from rain and splash. Could we possibly measure that capacity/volume? Then estimate the weight of that water at various levels inside the boat. At 8.34 pounds per gallon, this could be a very handy thing to keep in mind once you know it. Second, ...a few folks in the comments have mentioned towing your other kayak. I have a method that works for me. Ropes are rather "jerky". However, fiberglass masts (like for flags and antennas) work perfectly. They allow up, down, left, right, articulation....but zero play fore and aft. Leaving you with rigidity where you want it, and flexibility where you need it. Just a thought for you to play with.
Robert You can, many solo canoeists do it. But you need to sit in the middle of a narrow canoe. Or you can learn a few strokes and paddle solo with a canoe paddle.
Canoes have higher sides so the paddle would have to be extremely long causing the boat to turn with each stroke, or the stroke so steep that paddling is all arms instead of torso rotation.
Kevin Huff True. I’ve only seen a few river canoeists use them on canoes with a lot of rocker and inward flaring gunnels that are meant to turn quick in fast water. They don’t work well on traditional canoes with tall gunnels.
Good info CP, thx for making this video. 1st time buyer. I live on a bay and salty river. I've been looking at the Catch 100, 120 and 120 NXT. Other than the rear storage compartment I don't see the difference between the 120 and 120 NXT. Your experience? The xtra $100 USD not really a factor if the improvements is/are there. I believe both have the 4 scuppers, right? Thx for your opinion.
CanadianPrepper: what about utilizing the 120NXT as your rider kayak with some basic gear and the standard 120 "towed" behind you with additional gear? Thoughts?
The boat looks very stable, but bad things happen. Could you do a video on safety equipment and how to re-board the kayak in a worst case scenario of it is flipped over, and you are in water over your head?
A 16' Old Town Penobscot 16 RX weighs 12lbs less and it is designed to portage 100's of yards through the woods. It also carries 460lbs more gear than this kayak.
I much prefer canoes for the amount of weigh they can carry. A 17ft canoe carrys me, 240lb, my uncle, 160lbs, and about 300bs of food and gear. That's about 700lbs give or take. I could probably even fit a blue heeler as well. We do 10 day 100km Portage trips. 50km in and 50km back out. There's some rough trails and even rougher waters. But we've never had an issue using our Canoes. Greetings from Mohawks of the Bay of Quinte!
Don't know if anyone mentioned this in other comments or not but you are wrong about something. This is NOT the same company that makes high quality cases. The kayak manufacturer is pelican international / pelican sport, based out of Canada. The pelican case manufacturer is based out of California somewhere, and they are two completely different companies, one has nothing to do with the other, they are completely unrelated.
Agreed, your kayak is a more stable, reliable platform than a canoe. I have taught how to right and bail a canoe and there's a reason why. Submersion of the stuff you expect to be dry isn't too cool, either. To me, the high visibility orange knobs and accents cry out for a guy with a spray can of paint to visit them, though. It's just one less flag for an interested observer with binoculars to notice. Mayhaps a little wind generator on a stick in a rod holder? Just thinkin'...
Would like to see a kayak company design a kayak that you can utilize as a sleep shell why would you want to pack a tent with a kayak if you could fit inside your kayak in a sleeping bag and turn over, all you'd have to cover was the large seating whole whatever it's called with it with the kayak skirt that you already are packing
good video..I like the comment u made about white water rafting..I loved it til I heard the stories about their guides are not fully trained and minimize the danger
I own a catch 120 and I wouldn't recommend it for anything other than flat water and you have to be insane to think it falls in a class of the bug out water vehicle one that you can't go in 15 mph winds loaded with gear without it sinking. My previous pelican t130 could handle 15 20 mph winds you would get wet but it never come close to having a problem with sinking. I am actually disappointed with my 120 lack of ability to deal with the winds
tnx for sharing, being in the Netherlands it's deffo a thing to consider. Lots a water here, and the main large scale thread (besides a Belgian reactor blowing up) is probably large scale flooding. 1954, and a large % of our country being below sea-level, is actually why we build the worlds largest coastal defence system in the world, basically stretching all around our lovely country, some parts of which can be seen from space... one thing i also found rather cool, seeing you all probably know the Eiffel tower in Paris, we have 2 structures as large on either side of one of our rivers, that can actually maneuver a dam into place, onswater.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Nieuwe-Waterweg_Stormvloedkering.jpg in case you are interested.
Ok, I will admit a canoe won't go into as shallow water as a kayak, but canoes can go through rapids. As well a canoe can fit as much if not more gear than a kayak. Canoes have been used for 1,000's of years making them worth the investment.
Depends on the body of water you are in I live by the bay to get to fresh water or to the ocean but both of those would be dangerous place if you don't know what you are doing out there you are in a floating coffin
The Pelican Kayak has a two year warranty probably because its a two piece design, a top part and a bottom part, and it WILL eventully leak water. One piece designs are much more durable and less prone to leaking through normal wear and tear. Also like just about everything plastic, if you sit it out in the sun long enough it will be damaged by UV light rays and become brittle and crack easily. Some Kayaks hold up to this better than others due to the material they are constructed of. For survival or serious use, there are much better Yaks out there than Pelican...
They are good economical entry level Kayaks that allow you to get out on the water and figure out what YOU REALLY NEED in a Yak. For serious fishing and survival, I could think of several much better models to get. I started out with a Pursuit 10 and quickly ended up going to a Prowler 13 by OC. It was a upgrade akin to night and day!!! Now I am looking at a Hobie Outback or possibly a couple of other models that are Paddle Only.
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Canadian Prepper if you ever get tired of water dripping down your arms, try a single paddle, takes a little getting use to but once you do, no paddle waving through the air, no more wet hands, it's just getting the side switch down to a smooth and quick motion.
I love both but I do feel that you are miss informed about the depth in witch you can float a canoe. I took my flat bottom 18' canoe down a creek and was able to paddle in 3-4" of water and was able to push with the paddle in the canoe in any water above 2". Honestly I don't know what you are talking about. And I use a double bladed paddle 96" in length, works wonderful.
I would love to have this pelican catch 120, but it's too heavy for me to carry or lift up to the roof of my truck. I'm handicap so I need something light. I already have a 2 person canoe, but if I sell it the one person will cost too much in comparison to what I already have. Nate if your interested in a canoe for the future, I would suggest you check out Wenonah Canoes in Wisconsin. My 2 person canoe is 40 pound Kevlar designed by a Canoe Racer Gene Jensen. It's now worth $3000 new. I know if you paddled this one and carried it on a portage you'd want it. He taught me how the j stroke is wasted energy and if with a partner the hut technique is efficient paddling. Betty Ketter partnered to sell with him, unfortunately she died a number of years ago. You would have loved her. Betty reminded me of the Root beer Lady in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area/Quetico.
i guess I'm pretty off topic but does anyone know a good website to watch newly released series online?
@Carlos Enrique try flixzone. You can find it on google =)
I like kayaks for recreation. I've done a few whitewater kayaking trips. For anything serious, I prefer a canoe. Canoes are extremely versatile once you get comfortable with them.
This was probably the best review on the Pelican 120 I've seen ,,,the 120 is one of three I'm looking at thanks
Ok that's kayaks what about the canoes?
he forgot lol i still like a canoe with outriggers
Awesome video!!! I’ll be having a small trolling motor with a solar panel :)
Just bought one the other day. It's good to see the changes over the 4 years since you shot the video. Beef'd up handles and so on.
I wish that I had waited for this kayak at the time; I bought it 5 years old on sale, I had added a stroller motor and 12 volts battery on it; my son and I combined weights around 260#, 60# kayak wgt, another 110# of motor and battery, that will gives us room for gears ammunition and foods 100# approx.; we will need three of to move on water for the family of five. I like your set up better and a lot of storages below the decking. Thank you for sharing Sir!
This looks like a fantastic kayak for sure. When you were taking on water did you remove the scupper plugs from the bottom of the kayak to allow the water to drain out. I know sometimes in rougher water water will come up through the scupper holes but for the most part these are designed to allow any water that is taken on by the kayak to drain away. All in all I would say this is a very good kayak for sure. Thanks for sharing brother.
Try a solo canoe, learn the “j” stroke and you have more capability. I’ve hauled a caribou, gear and two paddlers with an 16’ Old Town, no problem. Flip it backward and paddle solo, I’ve hunted and camped this way for almost two decades. Canoes are pretty and lively. Paddling a pelican open top is like paddling a Tupperware container...
jjdogbutte. I really like how much you can carry with a conoe
The only real benefit to canoes is hauling more stuff, I dont care if something is "pretty" and I dont know what you mean by "lively". I prefer speed, maneuverability, stability, less energy expenditure and portability. You say tupperware but I say a lighter, high density, impact and UV resistant polyethylene that is will never sink. With more than one person or if on a hunting trip than yeah a canoe has its advantages, but with 400 lbs payload capacity for one person thats pretty decent.
Canadian Prepper To each his own. I’d recommend trying a good canoe for comparison, there’s a reason why they’ve been used for expeditions and traveling rivers and lakes for eons. An older royalex tandem canoe that can handle both flat water and Class III rivers weighs about as much as your pelican. It’s easier to portage by flipping it on your shoulders with a built in portage yolk. In terms of turning quick, a canoe with some rocker will be more maneuverable than the flat bottom pelican. The only advantages to the sit on top pelicans are that they’re OK for fishing, roto-molded and therefore cheap to make. Nothing against roto-molded, I’ve used a number of sea kayaks that worked great and handled rocky beaches and surf where fiberglass kayaks can break. If you like the pelican, more power to ya.
jjdogbutte the greatest advantage of the pelican is it can't sink unless you break it in half. It can't swamp like a covered kayak or canoe. Similar boats are used for the ocean more and more.
jjdogbutte. I had an old composite royalex. Kinda what I judge all others by
Im a new subscriber and i like it. I do alot river camping. I have a kayak but I find myself with not enough room for gear. But I'm looking at a Next 119 one person canoe. Lots of room, handling and comfort. But pricey. Just putting my 2 cents worth in. I'll be watching.
I picked up an older model Old Town Guide 119 off Craigslist this past spring. They're a good alternative to the Next and a bit cheaper. I think Old Town calls them the Discovery now and sell the Guide model through Dicks or Field and Stream.
got mine pelican catch 120 yestrday. i didnt know you got the same! i guess I made a good choice
I have this boat, love it and you are right it is very comfortable (only been out on it 3x in the past one and half months since purchasing) and I'm older, not very agile at 62, but could sit in this kayak for quite a while. I to plan to keep it pretty close to factory condition; it has everything I need... plus, I have the crate, the flag, a great paddle, some Scotty accessories (not a TH-camr, so camera work is limited to my phone). Most of the weight capacity is pretty much used up by me at 285 lbs. Additionally, I am in Phoenix, AZ and fishing with my work schedule as a security officer is pretty limited to close to home and on lakes.
I have to say it is great fun and I cannot wait every Monday (day off and not many boaters out) to get out in the water. This kayak is one of the best investments I have ever made. At least once a day, I go out in the garage to marvel at this acquisition and question why I never did this sooner.
Thats great to hear Patrick, I look forward to many adventures with this thing! Great to here others have found good value in it, thats very reassuring.
I agree Patrick, I am roughly the same weight and love this thing. I have the catch 120 done with a rear hatch, milk crate with 3 rod holder tie strapped and added a few mounting brackets for a forward Scotty rod holder. I bought it last summer 2017 new for $ 850 Canadian and absolutely love being able to get out on the lake without having to worry about breakdowns and all the crap that comes with having a power boat. As they say B.O.A.T stands for Break Out Another Thousand, I decided to break out the last thousand on the purchase of the Catch and not have anymore maintenance costs. Lucky to have the weekends off and a place to use it regularly....Just waiting patiently for the season to ramp up and get the opportunity to hook a nice size Muskie to pull me around the lake. Cheers from the north
This makes me want to hit the open water I have been too busy to go even once this year.... I may need to make some time now that you gave me the itch. Great video as always!
Go figure I am looking for a new kayak and my favorite prepper has a review of the one I'm leaning towards.
Well done CP.
Living by the Sea I've also considered a new kayak or canoe. Maybe something inflatable!? So I've been watching your kayak Adventures with great interest. One question I have is about the shallow deck. Can you tell us how safe it really is on moderately rough rivers or on the sea? Also how was the water line when you had the kayak loaded up near capacity?
Excellent presentation, and thanks for sharing.
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Julian
I went from kayak to canoe a Novacraft fox 14 solo it’s easy to throw up on your shoulders and carry it for miles.
And I can throw a tone of gear in it. And I can go single blade or double.
Old town has a 119 sportsman that’s a pack boat canoe kayak hybread
Question CP: have you thought of (or is it possible to be) using the Mono Walker to transport the kayak with gear on a solo excursion through rough/long portages? I ask this because all of the 2 wheeled kayak/canoe transporters I've seen are of flimsy construction.
You should check out Joe Robinet. He uses a canoe all the time. Back country heavy camping. The cool thing is it comes with a yolk for transportation. You can carry both your pack and boat at one time. He goes through porttage picking everything up from one lake going through a trail and placing it in another lake
Just to point out yes I own kayaks only. But I just wouldn't rule out some canoe designs. Granted I know you are doing a product review so wanting to point out many of the features
A nice looking ride.
Canadian Prepper, have you considered making a video, or exploring the idea of making a video about the benefits or damages, of "survival video games," and their psychological impact in our perception of what a survival scenario might actually look like, and perhaps feel at a psychological level? E.g. a video game such as "The Last Of Us." Thank you.
Or the lone dark
hi. no used the scuper plug . try flapers in the bottom scuper hole . like pice the duck tape . water don't go up and go out very fast . never have water inside again .
Good review and video! Was planning on buying one of these. I owned a Pelican Strike 120 last year which I had to sell. Loved that kayak but this one definitely would suit my purposes better. Thanks.
Have both, advantages and disadvantages in both systems. My personal preference is a canoe with a white water skirt. Higher payload in a bug out situation, easier to portage, better for temporary shelter. However, higher profile, more skill to maneuver when solo, harder to do a self rescue if you tip in the middle of the lake(been there done that). Prefer an enclosed kayak with a skirt if I didn't have my canoe, again being able to self right in a roll over situation. There ya go, my opinion and $2.00 you could get yourself a coffee.
Crazy Canuck
But coffee from tim's is $2.75
Tyrail86, sucks to be you my friend, large Tim's black, $2.00 in this part of Canuckville, and I still prefer a canoe...just say'n
I've been looking at these. I want one so badly and just can't afford it at the moment. But, they are great. A buddy of mine got one and uses it all the time to fish with. It's a great tool to have.
Nice Kayak. Nice review. Having grown up canoeing in Quebec, I can't see portaging something like this over many rods! Still like my aluminum canoe.
Great video, CP. I plan on buying one of these soon. One thing I'd like to throw out there as a suggestion. Instead of thru bolting whatever you plan to mount to the deck of the kayak, use epoxy. I'll check to see if pelican has an epoxy product that works good for the polyethylene material or find it elsewhere. Of course the more stuff you mount, the more stuff you might break or get tangled up in the brush. I'm in the lower midwest. Maybe in the late spring/early summer I can post some videos of catching catfish and stripers from some of the rivers here to see how our boat handles with larger fish. There's not too many northern pike or muskie where I'm at.
This is a great kayak, iv been looking to upgrade to a better boat. I think I will go a look at these.thank you.
From my way of thinking this would be a great resource to stock at the bug out location in order to function in the environment. I'm in a city so for my "point A to point B" aspect of a bug out I require a car or bicycle. Although, this would be a great tool to transition from the urban/city bug out and then move from mainland to an island or perhaps a rendezvous with a larger boat.....
That’s a nice set up Nate. I really like the sturdiness of this kayak, the flexibility and stability. As a lone wolf set it would. be great. to The only worry I would have with a kayak is the weight limitation. A canoe can carry 2 people and gear. I still plan on buying a canoe next summer, you haven’t convinced me yet that a kayak is the better choice, but this one sure has me thinking. Thanks Buddy, stay safe. 👍
Native Ultimate FX12. Best of both worlds. Hauls all the gear you need.
Great Aerial Shots.
After looking at the water you took on it that kayak, you sold me on a canoe.
Two kayaks a few poles a roll out bamboo rug to form a platform and your off the ground that you can pitch a shelter on? Be it on land or on the water? ; )
like a catamaran? Sounds cool!
Speaking of lifevest, here in the US a friend received a $60 ticket for not having a $1 whistle while on one of these.
...my ark is a Saturn 385XL Kaboat, Merc 6 hp 4-stroke, and a Stohlquist EZ drysuit...will probably add some sort of inflatable barge to tow more "stuff"......or...a kayak?
I love when you make up words that should exist!!! Or maybe you're just speaking Canadian. Don't care, you're just adorable. Also, me want kayak! : )
For fun and exercize I like a sit on top kayak. For survival and general use I like a canoe better. I would add floats in the bow and stern for long distance and rough water. That’s just me.
I read the channel name as Canadian pepper
awesome, i've been looking for something like this. thanks for passing this info on
Great video, I've been looking at getting one those.
Great video, I wish I had a grand to get one of these! For now it goes on the amazon wish list.
Take two kayaks hollow each one out then glue the two together. then make a water tight access door forward and aft of the utility kayak to handle your survival goods yall don't want to gets wet. You could even design this system to have a anchor to hold it below water keeping all your survival goods in a neat place that you can raise when you need the supplies. ; )
The slit on the paddle is actually a lure retriever. It's saved my butt a few times getting expensive swimbaits out of trees/brush. I'm stuck between the pelican catch 120 or the emotion stealth pro. Do you feel like you need to add a skeg to the catch to help with tracking?
Hi, I am a mom of two littles and looking for recommendations. I am new to kayaking but wonder what is safer, a kayak or a canoe? Also if you have any recommendations. My kids and I love exploring, camping and hiking but not fishing. We are looking for something to solo te rivers and lakes. Thank you 😊
Superb Video mate thank you
nice, the guitar on the background
You could probably make a nice catamaran with 2 ?
Great video. Great angles and views. High quality video. Very informational. Great review on this particular kayak. You seem to be very knowledgeable but why did you not simply remove the scupper plugs when you were taking on water? This boat is designed with several scuppers and a self bailing design. Were you weighted down to the extent that your deck was below the waterline? Thanks!
wow there are adds on prepper videos!
I like it ..but not sure for most southern lake an swamp areas in my area. The ever glades with the aggressive water snakes like the water moccasin an crocks an Cayman's..But for the northern areas see this as a win.
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The canoe still beats this even in the north. You get alot of utility with a canoe.
Ive been in oman for close to 2 years we got three pelican kayaks we got them in the shade for 9 hours or so they hold up good even agaist stupid mistakes and hitting rock i dont know which one i got but it was the cheapest i could find and i havent had a problem yet.
Most are running their gear in those Dry Bags. So oval foot print of the bag fits into a oval hatch.
Have you tryout one with outriggers?
Just two things from me on this one. First, ...a question. I would be curious as to the volume of water these models can "take on" from rain and splash. Could we possibly measure that capacity/volume? Then estimate the weight of that water at various levels inside the boat. At 8.34 pounds per gallon, this could be a very handy thing to keep in mind once you know it. Second, ...a few folks in the comments have mentioned towing your other kayak. I have a method that works for me. Ropes are rather "jerky". However, fiberglass masts (like for flags and antennas) work perfectly. They allow up, down, left, right, articulation....but zero play fore and aft. Leaving you with rigidity where you want it, and flexibility where you need it. Just a thought for you to play with.
Thumbs up. So why can you not use a double paddle in a canoe?
Robert You can, many solo canoeists do it. But you need to sit in the middle of a narrow canoe. Or you can learn a few strokes and paddle solo with a canoe paddle.
Canoes have higher sides so the paddle would have to be extremely long causing the boat to turn with each stroke, or the stroke so steep that paddling is all arms instead of torso rotation.
It would be awkward as previous commenters mentioned
Thanks
Kevin Huff True. I’ve only seen a few river canoeists use them on canoes with a lot of rocker and inward flaring gunnels that are meant to turn quick in fast water. They don’t work well on traditional canoes with tall gunnels.
Good info CP, thx for making this video. 1st time buyer. I live on a bay and salty river. I've been looking at the Catch 100, 120 and 120 NXT. Other than the rear storage compartment I don't see the difference between the 120 and 120 NXT. Your experience? The xtra $100 USD not really a factor if the improvements is/are there. I believe both have the 4 scuppers, right? Thx for your opinion.
CanadianPrepper: what about utilizing the 120NXT as your rider kayak with some basic gear and the standard 120 "towed" behind you with additional gear? Thoughts?
The boat looks very stable, but bad things happen. Could you do a video on safety equipment and how to re-board the kayak in a worst case scenario of it is flipped over, and you are in water over your head?
Can u do a video of the trolling motor setup. I'm buying a catch 120 after watching this video
I would like to know what is in that black waterproof case
Great review
A 16' Old Town Penobscot 16 RX weighs 12lbs less and it is designed to portage 100's of yards through the woods. It also carries 460lbs more gear than this kayak.
I much prefer canoes for the amount of weigh they can carry.
A 17ft canoe carrys me, 240lb, my uncle, 160lbs, and about 300bs of food and gear. That's about 700lbs give or take. I could probably even fit a blue heeler as well. We do 10 day 100km Portage trips. 50km in and 50km back out.
There's some rough trails and even rougher waters.
But we've never had an issue using our Canoes.
Greetings from Mohawks of the Bay of Quinte!
Great video CP! Pelican actually just released Pelican Catch 130 HD with pedal drive! I just wanted to know your opinion on it.
kayaking is a great way out
Why didn't you unplug the scupper holes so the water would go out?
I ordered two of these kayaks. What size length of paddle do you have?
That hook is for retrieving fishing lines
Don't know if anyone mentioned this in other comments or not but you are wrong about something. This is NOT the same company that makes high quality cases. The kayak manufacturer is pelican international / pelican sport, based out of Canada. The pelican case manufacturer is based out of California somewhere, and they are two completely different companies, one has nothing to do with the other, they are completely unrelated.
Agreed, your kayak is a more stable, reliable platform than a canoe. I have taught how to right and bail a canoe and there's a reason why. Submersion of the stuff you expect to be dry isn't too cool, either. To me, the high visibility orange knobs and accents cry out for a guy with a spray can of paint to visit them, though. It's just one less flag for an interested observer with binoculars to notice. Mayhaps a little wind generator on a stick in a rod holder? Just thinkin'...
how efficient did it paddle? effort vs.speed? thanks
Joe Robinet uses a canoe, but with a kayak paddle. So the best of both worlds!
Sets up a tarp as sail L frame with cp’s SAW.
This is cool. Not my cup of tea but cool.
Try a Grumman solo.
Nice review. You seem to take a lot of gear out in the woods??
i have the basic model and it is OK but i wish it was more fly fishing friendly
CP, check out some of the fishing channels for good mods and motor mounting options.
indeed I only got this at the end of the season and only started to look into that
Would like to see a kayak company design a kayak that you can utilize as a sleep shell why would you want to pack a tent with a kayak if you could fit inside your kayak in a sleeping bag and turn over, all you'd have to cover was the large seating whole whatever it's called with it with the kayak skirt that you already are packing
I know it is mentioned this kayak to be slower than some other which I've heard mention on other reviews, but it is still faster than a canoe?
What happens if you use a kayak oare in a canoe? Does it catch on fire?
I like the mighty Saskatchewan river comment. But which one? N or S?
good video..I like the comment u made about white water rafting..I loved it til I heard the stories about their guides are not fully trained and minimize the danger
I have both a fishing kayak and a large canoe 🛶 don’t use them much wish I did use them more but life sux
I own a catch 120 and I wouldn't recommend it for anything other than flat water and you have to be insane to think it falls in a class of the bug out water vehicle one that you can't go in 15 mph winds loaded with gear without it sinking. My previous pelican t130 could handle 15 20 mph winds you would get wet but it never come close to having a problem with sinking. I am actually disappointed with my 120 lack of ability to deal with the winds
What is the price point on it
Does it come in a two seater?
This is interesting for lone 🐺s. Thats not me. I am a family 👨
How many people and what ages?
I prefer kayak with sail, pedal and pagaie. more option, more versatility. Check out hobby pro angler
Represent lol you're from sask too?
Yes
tnx for sharing, being in the Netherlands it's deffo a thing to consider. Lots a water here, and the main large scale thread (besides a Belgian reactor blowing up) is probably large scale flooding. 1954, and a large % of our country being below sea-level, is actually why we build the worlds largest coastal defence system in the world, basically stretching all around our lovely country, some parts of which can be seen from space... one thing i also found rather cool, seeing you all probably know the Eiffel tower in Paris, we have 2 structures as large on either side of one of our rivers, that can actually maneuver a dam into place, onswater.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Nieuwe-Waterweg_Stormvloedkering.jpg in case you are interested.
How much did it cost
Ok, I will admit a canoe won't go into as shallow water as a kayak, but canoes can go through rapids. As well a canoe can fit as much if not more gear than a kayak. Canoes have been used for 1,000's of years making them worth the investment.
I got a canoe, so I'm gonna use that
Depends on the body of water you are in I live by the bay to get to fresh water or to the ocean but both of those would be dangerous place if you don't know what you are doing out there you are in a floating coffin
Thats gonna be hard to pack on your back if you have to bug out on foot sure thats problebly plan G but still...
Dude, the pelican that makes cases is a completely different company from a completely different country
The Pelican Kayak has a two year warranty probably because its a two piece design, a top part and a bottom part, and it WILL eventully leak water. One piece designs are much more durable and less prone to leaking through normal wear and tear. Also like just about everything plastic, if you sit it out in the sun long enough it will be damaged by UV light rays and become brittle and crack easily. Some Kayaks hold up to this better than others due to the material they are constructed of. For survival or serious use, there are much better Yaks out there than Pelican...
They are good economical entry level Kayaks that allow you to get out on the water and figure out what YOU REALLY NEED in a Yak. For serious fishing and survival, I could think of several much better models to get. I started out with a Pursuit 10 and quickly ended up going to a Prowler 13 by OC. It was a upgrade akin to night and day!!! Now I am looking at a Hobie Outback or possibly a couple of other models that are Paddle Only.
Well if the makers of the Pelican Catch are watching this video sold me on one.