Junebug just accomplished two things I once considered impossible. He got top 3 at a supermajor, AND he managed to make a crowd cheer AGAINST Mang0… I’m honestly not sure which one is more impressive 😅
@@TheIronyoshiI mean it had almost 1000 people in attendance. What’s the cutoff for the arbitrary tournament title of “major” or “super major” 5 years ago this would have been close to one of the biggest tournaments of all time Like people call CEO a major but it had less than 200 entrants
If you play a midtier, you get the crowd for free. It comes with the character, it doesn’t matter who your playing against. Amsa and Axe immediately got the crowd to back them at tourneys they attended, it didn’t matter who they were against
@@Astar72439 i think its mainly determined by the presence of other top players not sure if there even is an agreed upon definition for supermajor though
@@shoopy44 Superova is just a rebranding of Super smash con, which has been called a super major every year. last year it was the 3rd biggest tourney of the year. If we cant call this a super major, then the ONLY super major we have anymore is just genesis, and thats it
@@TH-camCommonman_Totas It's always going to be interesting when somebody breaks out a character that isn't the spacies. It just shows how unique Melee is and how it may not be fully solved.
Wild seeing DK show up in a WF of this caliber. Almost 25 years since Melee released, but seeing a top DK player is like suddenly having a new character patched into the game.
The unique thing about Mang0 in his almost 20 years of competitive Melee is he has fought the top players of wacky characters nobody really uses several times aMSa (Yoshi), Axe (Pikachu), Hbox (puff), Abate (Luigi), Armada (Peach), etc.. so it makes sense a top level DK isn’t going to break him easily like a lot of the other new gen less experienced players. Great match
mang0 has never played against June or really any top level DK before besides i believe Quang at TBH last year. But yeah he and Armada we're always amazing at destroying low to mid tiers and he's seemingly only become better at it with every year.
k so i havent watched melee in a hot minute, so my apologies for not being up to date on this stuff, but wtf is dk doing in winners finals at a tournament as stacked as supernova? 😂 huge props to junebug for pushing this character to the limit and beyond man
We all thinkjng the same thing. A few months ago junebug busted out the DK and beat magi I think, and ever since he’s been on an insane tear. First axe winning a supermajor, then Aklo taking names like kodorin with his link, then Amsa and his yoshi being top 2 in the world, now DK. Even now I’m thinking about how chudat was top 2 a few years ago
So basically in the past year and a half DK has gone from low tier to in discussion of being Samus / Luigi level due to a mix of an underground DK optimisation project in the mid 2010's, Slippy and DK gaining actual reps with 3 of them being top 50 players. Of note the DK's have: Bullied every marth player expect zain Beaten serveral top 20 level players to win regionals Created the biggest seeding upset in the history of the game (bing vs cody) Forced some players to counterswap DK to try and win Overcome serveral seemingly horrible matchups (Sheik is the problem rn). Were kinda waiting on the "super DK" to be born but Junebug is provding impressive results.
It must've been emotional for Junebug, to be playing the best player thus far in Melee, the Goat, the Kid, and having the audience cheer more for HIM than the king of melee, in his own region, at one of the biggest supermajors in the world. That MEANS something yk.
I think if u give the masses some time; this tournament may represent a huge change for mango. His play this tournament was different than it has ever been imo. He was…. More methodical? More tight? More strict? More oppressive? More understanding? More knowledgeable? I dunno, you could look to individual things like his tight ledgeplay and mixups or sum like that; but overall, i feel like something has changed. He still looks like a ‘feeling’ player, but now theres a new, cold, logical level. His gamin’ this tournament was the most excellent I think Ive ever seen him play. It feels like every decision he made all tournament had a purpose. What a spectacle from the man who we though showed us everything he had to offer; and everything we thought there was to love abt him. What a cool guy
While I definitely was cheering for Junebug, I definitely could see that too. Mango played extremely calm and confident. He clearly studied up hard on DK and all his opponents. This finals was definitely a showing of skill but more-so a showing of preperation. Mango put in the work before it even came to this and because of that he won. I definitely think Junebug is an amazing player and I really hope they keep working on it because DK definitely has huge potential and he does too.
imo saying “he was sweating” is an overstatement. Junebug is taking DK places don’t get me wrong but winning 3-1 I don’t think you can say mang0 sweat, plus he not having a single DK match since 2015 and looking how j has improved that meta it just shows how top players adapt to matches, but I do agree mang0 was locked in, the pressure of “I cannot loose to a low tier char”
@jameswoodland2719 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bro. You can't be serious. You have no idea how hot those stages and venues are. I promise you. DK isn't making Mango sweat. Please stop.
its the player that crafts the character junes dk has such potential still, what this feels like is 2 players of immense skills, but one has the most well crafted character and the other something thats still in progress.
The craziest thing to me is that the concept of Junebug taking a set off of Mango before he picked up DK was pretty much unthinkable. Easy win for Mango every time. The odds are obviously still stacked against June, but I can definitely see a world where he wins a set like this. Mind blowing!
A major, yes, a supermajor? Never. Aklo has won a major with Link, but he'll never win a supermajor either. The characters in that sect of the tier list just have too many weaknesses. If Melee SD Remix replaced Melee, we'd see those characters win regularly, cuz the mod fixes the areas those characters struggle in neutral against the top tiers.
@@nahor88 People said the same thing about Yoshi. Be a non-believer all you'd like, but the time of the Apes is here and I don't think anybody truly knows how high they can fly.
@@PizzaDoesThings Amsa showed us VERY early on that Yoshi has some ridiculous potential in NEUTRAL GAME, a lot of it centering around his DJC. DK simply does not have that; he is heavily reliant on PUNISH game. Junebug has done some remarkable things in neutral, but players will adapt and exploit over time. Those that understand both sides of the game knew Amsa's potential with Yoshi. It's abundantly obvious that DK is strong on one side, and not so much on the other. It happens all the time in real sports.
It's most likely been at least more than 5 years since Mang0 has fought a DK main in a serious bracket. Junebug put up a great fight but Mang0 beat him off of just raw experience. Amazing showing from both players
Dang that was actually closer than I thought. I think going stadium against mango was a mistake the old heads are gonna know what to do in those wonky transformations and feel right at home
I got mad huge respect for how far june has come so fast although saying DK only slightly loses to spacies is a bit much xD it's the armada effect; june is just insanely good at the game and with his character and the other top pros are not sure how to deal with it yet/suck at the MU
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It’s absolutely crazy how far junebug’s gotten with DK I hope to see more of his play later on
Junebug just accomplished two things I once considered impossible. He got top 3 at a supermajor, AND he managed to make a crowd cheer AGAINST Mang0… I’m honestly not sure which one is more impressive 😅
This isn't a supermajor but yeah a pretty big major
@@TheIronyoshiI mean it had almost 1000 people in attendance. What’s the cutoff for the arbitrary tournament title of “major” or “super major”
5 years ago this would have been close to one of the biggest tournaments of all time
Like people call CEO a major but it had less than 200 entrants
If you play a midtier, you get the crowd for free. It comes with the character, it doesn’t matter who your playing against. Amsa and Axe immediately got the crowd to back them at tourneys they attended, it didn’t matter who they were against
@@Astar72439 i think its mainly determined by the presence of other top players not sure if there even is an agreed upon definition for supermajor though
@@shoopy44 Superova is just a rebranding of Super smash con, which has been called a super major every year. last year it was the 3rd biggest tourney of the year. If we cant call this a super major, then the ONLY super major we have anymore is just genesis, and thats it
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@@oaklex4948 aw screw u man! >:[
@@oaklex4948 😐
Good man 👏🏻👏🏻
fail
In 2017, people were saying Melee was a solved game.
Imagine a majority of people being upset that Mango is going to Grand Finals.
It's like when he and Amsa went against each other
@@TH-camCommonman_Totas It's always going to be interesting when somebody breaks out a character that isn't the spacies. It just shows how unique Melee is and how it may not be fully solved.
@@matthewroberts6833 bro nobody thinks melee is even closed to being “solved”. That’s like saying the game of baseball is “solved”
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain 😔
Mango is still hype though, it's hard to be consistently top 8 for so long, and he still is a clutch god sometimes
Wild seeing DK show up in a WF of this caliber. Almost 25 years since Melee released, but seeing a top DK player is like suddenly having a new character patched into the game.
The unique thing about Mang0 in his almost 20 years of competitive Melee is he has fought the top players of wacky characters nobody really uses several times aMSa (Yoshi), Axe (Pikachu), Hbox (puff), Abate (Luigi), Armada (Peach), etc.. so it makes sense a top level DK isn’t going to break him easily like a lot of the other new gen less experienced players. Great match
mang0 has never played against June or really any top level DK before besides i believe Quang at TBH last year.
But yeah he and Armada we're always amazing at destroying low to mid tiers and he's seemingly only become better at it with every year.
" The unique thing about Mang0 " bruh it's definitely not unique to Mang0
@@sigomare bruh born in 2004 💀
@@rannynihilius8481 Yeah Mang0’s adaptability is on another level. I remember how fast he learned the aMSa matchup
@A_K1ra_ So according to you I created my channel at the age of 4 ? Was it supposed to be an attack anyway ? You look dumber by the minute. .
What a set, this tournament is really something
This title is not real
Continue coping ;) /s lmao
@@OhSoSnakeweird bait he just said the title was shocking he isnt coping for anything? Also mang0 won so im not sure whos coping here
@@Myst1c_OWhe said /s 💀
@@swagcat51 idek man
That means "sarcastic"@@Myst1c_OW
I already saw this coming but this set was no less entertaining
I FUCKING LOVE MELEE FOR SHIT LIKE THIS
That powershield game is insane, Junebug is nuts
That SD at high health was so unfortunate.
full health?
k so i havent watched melee in a hot minute, so my apologies for not being up to date on this stuff, but wtf is dk doing in winners finals at a tournament as stacked as supernova? 😂
huge props to junebug for pushing this character to the limit and beyond man
We all thinkjng the same thing. A few months ago junebug busted out the DK and beat magi I think, and ever since he’s been on an insane tear. First axe winning a supermajor, then Aklo taking names like kodorin with his link, then Amsa and his yoshi being top 2 in the world, now DK. Even now I’m thinking about how chudat was top 2 a few years ago
So basically in the past year and a half DK has gone from low tier to in discussion of being Samus / Luigi level due to a mix of an underground DK optimisation project in the mid 2010's, Slippy and DK gaining actual reps with 3 of them being top 50 players.
Of note the DK's have:
Bullied every marth player expect zain
Beaten serveral top 20 level players to win regionals
Created the biggest seeding upset in the history of the game (bing vs cody)
Forced some players to counterswap DK to try and win
Overcome serveral seemingly horrible matchups (Sheik is the problem rn).
Were kinda waiting on the "super DK" to be born but Junebug is provding impressive results.
There's multiple video essays on the DK Renaissance 🐒
Top 2 put some respect on aMSa's name@@Beastmd
@@nahometesfay1112 big facts , couldn’t remember if he was 2 or if I confused it when zain and Cody were tied for 1
It must've been emotional for Junebug, to be playing the best player thus far in Melee, the Goat, the Kid, and having the audience cheer more for HIM than the king of melee, in his own region, at one of the biggest supermajors in the world. That MEANS something yk.
I think if u give the masses some time; this tournament may represent a huge change for mango.
His play this tournament was different than it has ever been imo. He was…. More methodical? More tight? More strict? More oppressive? More understanding? More knowledgeable?
I dunno, you could look to individual things like his tight ledgeplay and mixups or sum like that; but overall, i feel like something has changed. He still looks like a ‘feeling’ player, but now theres a new, cold, logical level.
His gamin’ this tournament was the most excellent I think Ive ever seen him play. It feels like every decision he made all tournament had a purpose. What a spectacle from the man who we though showed us everything he had to offer; and everything we thought there was to love abt him. What a cool guy
While I definitely was cheering for Junebug, I definitely could see that too. Mango played extremely calm and confident. He clearly studied up hard on DK and all his opponents. This finals was definitely a showing of skill but more-so a showing of preperation. Mango put in the work before it even came to this and because of that he won. I definitely think Junebug is an amazing player and I really hope they keep working on it because DK definitely has huge potential and he does too.
wait how tf is dk in wf
dk is really good
Because Junebug is really good and DK is better than everyone thought.
@@shoukey7425*junebug is really good lol
bc meIee is dead
Simply put, Junebug is absolutely cracked.
The next player documentary made will be Junebug and his insane DK super major win
Mango is looking good IRL
DKでWF…最近のJuneノリノリすぎる！
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Damn, Mang0 looks good! For a split second after game 1 I thought I was watching an old VOD. all that biking helping out.
Yeah I was amazed how young he looks in this video. Don’t know what he’s doing but it looks like it’s doing some good
5:10 That Spike was PERSONAL, Gah DAYUM.
not a spike
@@TheYagimi ... Elaborate....
You know DK is going somewhere when even Mango is sweating.
Mango was definitely not sweating.
He wasn’t sweating
@@CreamyPesto505 look at his forehead dude, he was using all of his might not to be sent to losers by a DK
imo saying “he was sweating” is an overstatement. Junebug is taking DK places don’t get me wrong but winning 3-1 I don’t think you can say mang0 sweat, plus he not having a single DK match since 2015 and looking how j has improved that meta it just shows how top players adapt to matches, but I do agree mang0 was locked in, the pressure of “I cannot loose to a low tier char”
@jameswoodland2719 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro. You can't be serious. You have no idea how hot those stages and venues are. I promise you. DK isn't making Mango sweat. Please stop.
June is the people's champion right now
Holy Shit mango on his Zyzz grind?
its the player that crafts the character
junes dk has such potential still, what this feels like is 2 players of immense skills, but one has the most well crafted character and the other something thats still in progress.
The craziest thing to me is that the concept of Junebug taking a set off of Mango before he picked up DK was pretty much unthinkable. Easy win for Mango every time. The odds are obviously still stacked against June, but I can definitely see a world where he wins a set like this. Mind blowing!
Mang0's new beard style looking fresh as fuck though
When mango is relentless with the shodt hop laser on a player who has no busimess on the stage with him, you know he doesn't care, he came for blood
The fact that he pushed this far is crazy. DK winning a major doesn’t seem impossible anymore, June just has to deal with the top 5 now
lol, he got to WF because zain dropped out
A major, yes, a supermajor? Never.
Aklo has won a major with Link, but he'll never win a supermajor either. The characters in that sect of the tier list just have too many weaknesses. If Melee SD Remix replaced Melee, we'd see those characters win regularly, cuz the mod fixes the areas those characters struggle in neutral against the top tiers.
@@nahor88 People said the same thing about Yoshi. Be a non-believer all you'd like, but the time of the Apes is here and I don't think anybody truly knows how high they can fly.
@@PizzaDoesThings Amsa showed us VERY early on that Yoshi has some ridiculous potential in NEUTRAL GAME, a lot of it centering around his DJC. DK simply does not have that; he is heavily reliant on PUNISH game. Junebug has done some remarkable things in neutral, but players will adapt and exploit over time. Those that understand both sides of the game knew Amsa's potential with Yoshi. It's abundantly obvious that DK is strong on one side, and not so much on the other. It happens all the time in real sports.
@@nahor88 haha I remember seeing someone saying the exact thing youve said about yoshi. But now on DK. Word for word.
I literally chuckled out loud when Junebug got the dair spike to end game 2. Such a savage way to end it.
7:50 I never thought I'd see a "Genei Jin Ay Ay Ay" moment in Melee, let alone it being cheers for DONKEY KONG
Fundays gave Mango all the knowledge he needed for this one moment
The best winners finals set of all time
It's most likely been at least more than 5 years since Mang0 has fought a DK main in a serious bracket. Junebug put up a great fight but Mang0 beat him off of just raw experience. Amazing showing from both players
mango did what 😮
yo, spoiler block if someone is going to beat the other player off. Some of us like a story and some foreplay ffs.
Haven't watched too much Melee recently but mang0 looks great. the cycling has definitely worked
felt like a battle between gods
4:10 why is no one talking about mango angling his shield here
Dang that was actually closer than I thought. I think going stadium against mango was a mistake the old heads are gonna know what to do in those wonky transformations and feel right at home
I can't wait for a documentary about junebug winning a major with donkey kong
The crowd losing their minds at every dk combo just elevates this set to a whole new level
junebug is so good fr. good to see him back
10 minutes for a 4 game set is wild
Great effort from june. Amazing set
that game 2 might have been my favorite match of all time
This is one of the most entertaining come ups since aMsa. Hopefully Junebug will win a major one day too
So he's finally here and about time too...
Im getting that sephiroth theme donkey kong remix vibes over here with the way junebug plays.
Junebug growing that old Mango hair. The Modern Day People's Champ.
This guy plays very well, amazing what he achieved with DK.
Melee is sick
crazy how this game is still relevant. classic
hard to overstate how good for the game this is
Top 3 at supernova is impressive considering Junebug ain’t even top 10 atm
Melee is beautiful. Holy shit.
Junebug is a lot of fun to watch
That was amazing.
4:04 "what an angle from Mango!"
-straight down
I’m picking up DK
I was scared the whole set until Mango won. I watched Junevug before and it was terrifying.
I'll never forget the first time I saw the new dk combos, whenever that was.
Shout out to bug. Always cool to see a non top tier make it this far.
There is a world where June doesn’t SD in two crucial moments
From yoshi to donkey Kong what a time to be alive.
Melee is still alive and innovating! DK in top 4 is 🎉🎉🎉🎉
All respect to Armada… Mang0 and is the GOAT.
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yeeeeaaaaaaah this went about as well as I thought it would
8:37 Mango saying "Roll, my son!"
big june fan bro thats crazy, hes so close to winning a super major fa-sho
jesus mang0 looked LOCKED IN in that first match.
How the F does DK's forward air not insta-gib? It's so hard to hit with.
HE'S THE LEADER OF THE BUNCH
Back in my day everyone hated low tiers cuz we were lazy and wanted the meta to be unchanging
Watching DK was hyped . Mango is too powerful
After this run, i wouldnt be surprised if a sponsor picked up June just for the publicity
Junebug had a match and took a game off of one of the gods of Melee. Regionals are screwed if Junebug comes around, now!
You have to root for the underdog, but you also can't sleep on the kid.
9:14 that shieldgrab bait LOL
What did I miss
Bro made it to winners without losing a single time
This is wild 😮
I got mad huge respect for how far june has come so fast
although saying DK only slightly loses to spacies is a bit much xD it's the armada effect; june is just insanely good at the game and with his character and the other top pros are not sure how to deal with it yet/suck at the MU
The DK Delegation has set its terms. Hand over the Banana Horde, or your stocks will continue to be taken.
the goat, the kid, the buster and the kremlin
Junebug is so fun so watch, how tf does he get this far with DK what a god.
Junebug channeling his inner Bum1
Mango is the kind of guy to go to grands and see a low tier and see yoshi and DK
Mang0 giving us a show, by letting June win one ;)
Donkey Kong has a Invincible Ledgedash btw
HES THE LEADER OF THE BUNCH
WFにドンキーがどれくらい凄いなのか教えて
That's my GOAT
incredible
Mango will be good at this game forever
Joe looks thin though, my man beating the shit out of competition since 2k11
I guarantee Mango had the biggest eye roll beating June here
Junebug has beaten mango before in PM he hasn't been playing DK for so long. He'll definitely beat him again.
Wait, has Mango lost weight or groomed or something? Looks like a different person
Quit drinking and started working out
Indoor biking everyday
すごい！