Riding The NEWEST Tour De France Bike - Van Rysel RCR Pro AG2R (Decathlon)
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Shoutout to your amazing cameraman ;)
Yes, the camera man did good. ;)
Decathlon must've _really_ liked your coverage of their budget bikes; such a great opportunity. (Hope you're also having a nice time with the family!)
This is why us consumers have to be really careful about believing online reviews.
Why wouldn’t an online reviewer wax lyrical (however consciously) about a brand’s products if down the line they might get sent a bike?
No one who said Decathlons cheaper bikes are crap are ever getting this bike in the post.
My first road bike is RC520, no complaints. Great entry level bike. Now I have two bikes, Bianchi Oltre as my summer bike and Cannodale synapse as winter bike. If I am gonna spend north of $5000 dollar on a new bike, I will get luxury brand like cervelo/S works/Pinarello/Colnago, not a Decathlon. Maybe direct to consumer brands like Canyon aeroad or Ribble for their value. I don't think this bike is gonna be much better value than those.
@@rob-c. The skepticism is totally understandable, but I feel it unfair to paint Cade Media in such light. They've been forthright with thier dealings with Decathlon and also I'll have you know that it was Cade media sought out Decathlon and not the other way around. They searched for a decent entry level road bike and Decathlon fit the bill
@@KevwePatani I’m sure Cade don’t need you defending them anyway, but if you read my comment I didn’t paint them with any brush, rather made a general comment about online reviews.
The fact that you think they need defending says a lot to me though.
If you can’t see that being nice to brand, whether you approach them or not, might come back to benefit you at some point, I refer you back to my original comment.
@@rob-c. I think @kevwePatani 's point is (and yes point not a defence ), you took this page to raise this, this then looks like you are meaning this creators page, cause twice now you have said the same thing and never actually excluded Mr Cade from the point you raised.
So happy to see the vlog format back - so much better than studio based content.
Glad I’m not the only person who thinks this. One more top 10 video and I was going to unsubscribe.
I like both to be fair. It's cool to see these performance bikes but I know I am never going to own one...
I totally second that
Yes even if it is an advert it’s ice to have a video were they actually ride bikes
can't wait to see what Decathlon is cooking for the entry and mid level riders. The've got big shoes to fill after RC520 which are still increadible value after 4 years. (I've ridden mine 30000KM and still loving it)
Cheaper version of this RCR looks like great value too with decent wheels and the new Sram force group coming in at 4.8k€ in europe
Swisside is pretty well known in triathlon, good to see they're getting into pro cycling. Their CEO/Chief Engineer Jean-Paul Ballard is super talented and smart - ex F1 too.
Seems a little weird that they only make a 28mm tire optimized wheel in 45mm depth. Their 50/62/80 depth wheels are optimized around a 25mm tire, which is small even for the pros these days. Much less mass market.
@@lolbubs11111 Zipp 404 is the same.
SwissSide have been in road/pro cycling for years. I was surprised Francis hadn’t heard of them.
I got my first set of Swissside wheels back in 2014. Them and HED were ahead of the game. They've been around a hell of a lot longer than what people think! @@rob-c.
Swissside shouldn't have been mentioned in the same line as Aerocoach 😂 They have over Four Decades of F1 aero development behind them!
I missed this type of your vlogs, it makes me want to go out for a bike ride!
Love Decathlon! I own an RC500, originally with Sora, but now upgraded to 105 R7000. Sora is awesome for entry level and absolutely loved it. I don’t think right now there’s a better offer from other brands in terms of entry level. Your channel is doing what I think no other YT channel is doing, which is promoting entry level bikes such as Decathlon’s.
Questions for Decathlon:
1. PF BB?
2. Customisable crank lengths, bat width, etc
3. What additional training are their staff getting for such a high end product?
PS hope you're well
I ordered a Van Rysel RCR Force and needed to return it because it was too large. The staff was super nice, but had only little expertise with bikes like this. They even asked me (when I brought it back to the store) how to shift/use the front derailleur, and they were unable to order any spare parts like a derailleur hanger. Perhaps it's just too early and there are early adopter issues / open questions, but the bike itself was awesome. Because my size could not be pre-ordered, I got a pre-fitted discounted Specialized Tarmac SL8 for way more money but a bit more peace of mind.
The Van Rysel RCR Pro uses BB86. Based on my experience and observations from handling various bike brands, I see BB86 more than any other PressFit BB standard.
I used to work in a Decathlon shop that opened in Belgium right as the pandemic hit. Originally as a salesperson in the bike department, but they noticed I had pertty good hands for wrenching and fixing bikes. Worked there for a year or so. My experience might not have been that of all stores, since it was newly opened here it is: Are staff getting additional training? Yes and no. In theory you could always ring up a 'product specialist' if you have a specific problem and in theory there were loads of trainings for the staff, but in practice I never had a lot of them. Most bikes brought in for repair or servicing were older style (mechanical and rim brake) so I never got around to working and learning to put on a new discbrake set etc. since the ones in the store come in a premade package and almost never came back for a full rebuild.
I ride the previous model high end bike from Decathlon (VanRysel RCR920 i think?). Loved it but half a year back I noticed a crack in the seatstay and brought it to the shop. I noticed none of the repairshop people I worked with were still there which kind of indicates a lot of inflow and outflow of people working the job so not a lot of consistent deep knowledge on the workfloor. The person handling the cracked frame wasn't sure how to handle the problem so it took a bit of back and forth to resolve the issue.
Did I trust the mechanics (and myself) I worked alongside to fix and handle your high end bike the right way? Totally.
But there also were people put in the repairshop for tasks they sure as hell weren't qualified for.
So my conclusion as having exwperience in the shop would be to take your high end lovely bike to a bikeshop and mechanic you trust. In the Decathlon repairshop you never quite know if you get the super knowledgeable retiree still wrenching some hours in the week or the new guy that saw someone change a wheel on GCN once.
I fly to LA very soon from a currently wet and cold UK and I cannot bloody wait to do some cycling, this video has only increased my excitement
It looks simple and clean. I love it
Welcome to LA! You'll absolutely love riding here. Excited to hear how you get on with the Decathlon bike- really seems like they knocked it out of the park with this one.
Hoping he rides Griffith, Verdugo, etc..
One of the best bike reveals I've seen in a long time. There are many suprisinlgy intruiging new cool things on this bike that I would like to explore when watching this video. I love the saddle, the fork and the steer. Decathlon is doing an amazing job here and probably will soon be a very competitive bike brand among top tier brands!
I am a bit exited for the Decathlon/Van Rysel- AG2R sponsorship.
It probably means we get great bikes for a lower price.
You can already see it with this and a few other bikes that have.
And hopefully more to come.
Nice to see you ride this one though.
And that Decathlon is sponsoring you for this video.
Great to see the vlog format video back :) Regarding the Van Rysel, really curious to see if they plan to release a 105 version like their current version and will it be available in Canada (nothing to do with the fact that I have a Decathlon 5 minutes away from my house :P)?
Yay, always fun to have Lucy in a video!
Love decathlon stuff. Bought a triban RC 120 based off your reviews
Congratulations you getting married last week nice bike
Finally a Francis vlog again. Missed it!
Nice one Francis and Cade media. You nailed it at the start that it was a sponsored video, you don’t take us for mugs like many of the other You Tube channels. I’m looking forward to see what else Decathlon bring out.
Congrats! Awesome to see that Decathlon test out the bike. Love to know what they are doing component with the lower end of this line.
Congratulations! Have a happy life together ❤️
As someone who just restarted biking last year (4070km) decathlon is amazing. I needed so much stuff and a new bike. Without their offers I would have had a lot more troubling paying for all of this at the same time. This year I'll go hiking and I'll also use the decathlon bikepacking stuff and tent. So far everything I do outdoor is covered by them. Especially useful if you're not sure if you want to invest in more expensive stuff because you might not enjoy something long-term.
I need a proper roadbike and their tiagra carbon bikes look very interesting.
-38c in Calgary right now. That weather, that bike, that location all look fantastic.
Same… then I looked out the window 🥶😅
“If you want to impress someone, send them a saddle.” ❤ 😂
#Truth
Thanks for being upfront about the sponsored product placement. I've been looking forward to a review.
Welcome back Lucy🫶👍
Great video, will be fun watching Decathlon entering the pro cycling world
Breath of fresh air for this channel.
Yes! More vlogs again please!
Awh, Malibu mountains! Was there for riding a couple of years ago, absolutely stunning. Make sure you stop by at Pedaler‘s Fork in Calabases. Nothing like a nice burger and an ice-cold cider when its hot in LA!
Hi Cade! Great to see this bike in action! I'm a huge Decathlon fan that I almost have decathlon everything but the bike -- mostly because I got my bike before I discovered the merits of Decathlon... This is the only bike that got me interested after so many years. It's just I am so tired of all those marketing bullshitting company's lies, you name it, like Trek and Specialized especially. As per their say every year their bike just got faster for 5%, then why the hell 10 years later we are not all cruising at 20mph for less than 200 watts??? And those Italian stuff, being expensive, just for the sake of being expensive... It's not that their stuff is not good, it's just that I don't like their altitude and hate to be bullied by such "marketing" approach. Decathlon is at least, honest and humble, even with their now pro tour super bike (at least for now). All in all, I do have two questions that I hope you can relay to Decathlon: 1. Will the cockpit (handlebar and integrated stem) be the same for the retail version??? especially the non-pro version??? I heard that the non-pro version will be a normal one, I don't think that's the right move, the price difference is relatively small that doesn't justify the "downgrade" to round tube. Fans won't fuss too much about the extra stiffness or the 40g or so weight difference, but would mostly appreciate the same "whole package pro experience", and that front end might be much more important psychologically than you guys might expect. (scientifically I know it doesn't matter that much, but consider anyone who would like to spend this much on a bike, they are for the VIBE -- they have come this far, they would love to have it right, especially the look, otherwise why not just go for the RC520?). 2. This bike is expensive, and local shop said there won't be any stock in house, this model would be sold mostly through online channel (I'm in China, maybe in France you'll have that privilege). That means ironically for this super bike, it lost the biggest strength of Decathlon -- the store in the real world. That means for this bike we won't be able to actually see it before buy it, not to say a "test ride". Again BTW this is another ridiculous thing in the bike world, if you pay $10000 for a car, you'll definitely be more than welcomes to have a test drive for any of the model, but for a bike, nah... Back to this bike. Before this super bike, one of the best part of Decathlon is they are the few bike shops that you can actually do a test ride before you buy anything, even if it's just inside of their store for a quick spin. This is important because FIT is the most important thing for any experienced rider, and the geometry is so different and so subtle that it is beyond tables and numbers. A quickest spin would reveal some geometry problem in seconds while numbers won't. I know this is a super bike, but I like it to keep "Decathlon", if to stock the real thing in the store is too much a cost, we understand it, but would it be suitable to provide some aluminium replicas so that people can actually test and feel the geometry and the size???? Or it could be something like a simplified Retul system that you can just setup to different geometries so that people can at least try the geometry... We know it will be tricky to return a super bike only after you found out it's not the correct size when that bike arrives home... For whatever reason this becomes a long rant, if you ever read this, pls relay these two points to Decathlon. I'm a huge fan and really want to see them doing great. Thanks! Your stuff is great, keep at it!
I love your vlogs! Love 'em. Love 'em. Love 'em!! I can't remember if you said your family is with you in LA or not. Of course, I hope they are. 🥰 Hello Lizzie!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Okay, I must say, Lucy's really lucky to get courted with a saddle!
Great to see Lucy and Lou
😘
wondering how much a Replica will be, i really love the looks of it. And so far i am really pleased with Decathlon stuff, good quality and a reasonable price.
Decathlon have done a great job 😊 well done to them.. nice looking bike and decent parts to.. 🚴🏻😃👍 Pete
I owned several Decathlon bikes and always liked the price:performance. Just want them to make a budget respecting bike with hydraulic discs and endurance geometry. That’s the bike almost all average joes want and need and for some reason whenever they have made something that looked like it might be it they made so few that it was forever out of stock in an instant. Something that’s just dependable with maybe the 10 speed hydraulic tiagra group set or 105 in the £1000-£2000 bracket.
Decathlon for the win. I have stuff from them I've used literally for decades. Often, it's 80pc of the features of the high end stuff for 20pc of the price. Aka, perfect for almost everyone.
Older stuff were sketchy AF. I once saw a full sus with air shock (more expensive than the classic coil shock) with the rear triangle broken. We were on a very short and eazy trail, he had around 20kg less than me and I was riding a Saracen hardtail. The aluminium just snapped.
I refused to ride Decathlon bikes since then. I kinda like how they boosted frame warranty to lifetime now, it gives me confidece that they made them stronger.
As for price, they absolutely cut corners everywhere, just like other companies. €40 pair or brakes on €1500 bike.. come on
Interested to hear how you get on with the saddle. I also have one and have found it to be very comfortable for riding in a standard position, and have done day rides up to 220miles on it. However I don’t think it really suits getting low on the bike. If I ride in a low aero position or on TT extensions for any solid length of time I do find problems with perineum pressure that I don’t get with my normal SLR Boost saddles. Basically I don’t think the pressure relief channel extends far enough forward to suit an agressive position. As pointed out in your video the very nose of the saddle is quite hard and I do feel the pressure from it when getting low, as a result I do tend to set it more nose down than other saddle I ride.
OMG I can only imagine the guys and girls at Swissside must have passed out when you mentioned they are similar to Aerocoach! That's like comparing the engineers and history of Ferrari Williams AMG McLaren etc to Lada Dacia etc etc 😂 Honestly guys Swissside are guys who helped to mold the last 4 decades of F1 aero development. I actually felt sorry for Swisssids lol 😂 Now on another note if you guys could pull off a Swissside factory tour through your contacts at Decathlon that would be awesome content!
Getting up Franklin Canyon!
Congrats Francis! xx k
We have the same height, 5 foot 10 (or 1,78 m, I dont know how to write in imperial). I’m surprised when you say you use XS frame for this bike. I always use S frame. Is there any geometry difference between this compared to other brands?
Glad to see you back in California. Can you ask decathlon if they are going to sell them in the U.S.? They seem to give us the short end of the stick compared to their European offerings.
Excellent work 👌🏾
Decathlon allowed me to return to cycling four years ago(with help from the Bike to Work Scheme) when i bought the mighty Triban RC500. I loved that bike so much that i was a bit let down at first by the Canyon Endurace AL7 rb i upgraded to a year and a half ago. It was inly when i changed the tyres out from the stock 25mm to 28mm Conti GP5000s, that i got that same cruising feeling i got from the RC500.
Really regret trading it in 😥
LOL... You should spend that on a better wheel, change to the same AL but more expensive marketing bike is a waste of money unfortunately... BTW tyre makes most of the difference between bikes, especially if you look at the stock ones. Just check the official specs on the websites. Tyre only cost tiny, but from $$$ to $$$$ to $$$$$, tyre went from 60 TPI to 120 TPI to 300 TPI. Actually that's the most of the "wow super bike feels imediately faster" feeling comes from. Ironically a $$$ bike but with super tyre, would still be in the $$$ price range, but a lot faster bike, but why the brands just won't do such reasonable thing, why???? This is the biggest secret of the bike industry IMO.
I love this interaction, fun to watch. As far as the bike I love it as well, I don't think there is anything I would change on it, looks great, perfect depth wheels. Like a donkey chewing up all your favorite cloths and pooping it all over your house, BAD ASS... ✌
So disappointed when decathlon closed their stores in the US. I use to lead their monthly no drop group rides in San Francisco across the golden gate bridge
You being 5’10 and riding an extra small sounds odd, how does an extra small measure up in terms of seat tube and top tube ?
It was great to see a riding video again, I’ve missed them
Curious on stiffness. Tour tested a prototype and it was slightly on the flexier side (like the latest émonda or the latest SSevo4). But I understood they worked on this aspect on final product. A confirmation would be good.
Only have a budget bike from them but does look promising and if this also makes them step up there mid range i might end up getting one.
The sizing though can explain that since ~5'10 sounds more like a medium or maybee small from most brands?
The bike looks sick! I am surprised that for a 5' 10" rider, the frame size needs to be XS and required the seat mount to be put into its shorter reach position with an already short reach and drop handlebars. I wonder what the average rider height would be for their bigger frame sizes.
Nice that they ask you to test , Triban is lovely ❤
Great video Francis💪🔝👌when is that di2 dura ace 12sp bike coming to the uk? Best regards Martin
The scale for the frame size seems to be broken. XS for a person being 5f10 or 178 cm seems wild to me.
Yea I’m 5’10 and I normally ride a M or 54/55cm frame for most brands, but I’m not tucking in super aero or anything lol
That was the first thing that jumped out at me. I'd love a bit of clarification on this. In my head theguy should be on a size M.
He mentioned that it has a 53cm top tube. Each bike has different geometry so it's always good to look at the specs to find a good fit
Geo and sizing is totally wrong on this modell, or optimised only for medium to tall sized pros.
HALF A LITRE OF COKE
THAT’S BIG 😂
I now have four Fizik saddles on my bikes, after an 18 month flirtation with Selle Italia that resulted in a wear pattern from stitching raising a couple of nappy patches on my bib shorts. At 200 quid a pair for Assos bib shorts, I'm not keen to see them wear thin in six months' time, so I've gone back to Fizik because they have always worked for me, and their TT saddle takes a bracket that discretely and securely lets you hold two CO2 canisters screwed into the bracket and out of the wind.
Bit different to my ride today full winter bib tights and soaked cold feet as roads flooded. Still good to get out and off turbo.
This is great, can't wait to see what Decathlon on the mid tier
Looks a nice bit of kit, be interested to hear your thoughts after five weeks of pootling around on it.
Is that deda bar available for purchase as a separate component? Uses the deda DCR headset I assume?
looks very clean
5ft 10 !!!!!!!!! i think we need a stewards on that mate
How is the compliance of the bike for a race bike?
would you say this is a full on aero bike or an all-around frame with aero features like the SL8?
Love seeing you out in LA dude.
You're in the USA, but most of the better bikes on Decatlon's website are always sold out. Will this top bike actually ever be in stock on the US website?
Dont worry, its also not available in the EU...
It is also common in Europe. I've never seen any road model better than RC520 in store. It's almost as if some products only exist to look good in the catalogue.
5'10" on XS frame blew my mind. On Van Rysel sizing chart, it looks like 5'10" is M frame. I wonder why the reason going XS?
The 53cm top tube length.
It was covered on Bike Fit Tuesdays that James and Francis (both 5’10) suit and fit 53cm top tube bikes
Nice vid, nice bike, having to say that it took me a few moments before I understood you were talking about AG2R (though I should have known).
Here in the Netherlands we pronounce it the Frence way. (Ahjaydeusair)
Looks really good
I’ve the same same exact seat for over a year wouldn’t trade it for anything it’s the best I’ve sit on
i am curious. I am similar size to you and i have a small frame much for the same reason. Big top tube. However if you were 5"4 what size would you get? Why is there disparity in sizes?
XS for a 5’10” person is wild. No hope for me. 🤣
I was about to say the same thing. It's crazy that he's riding an XS, I can't understand how that works?! 🤔
@@cloud34videodo a lot of pros not ride really small frames as they’re lighter? Then mid bars, seat posts and stems to make it fit.
will they offer this paint job or replyca in a lower level bike?
I must say that that handlebar looks amazing, i would love one for my supersix!
Back in LA. You should come out here and ride it up Mount Lemmon for a climbing test!
You stated your 5.10 you’re on an extra small that fits you spot on so my question is is their sizing off because I’m 5.5 what bike would fit me
Same, I was expecting a medium or large at 5.10, what does an XL fit?
@@producersRus 5.10 on a race bike is either S or M (framesize 52 or 54) I would say. Then again, "XS", "S" ... doesn't say anything. You need to know frame size and effective top tube length. I'm 5.9 and fit both a 52 and 54, but it depends on the top tube. Might need a shorter stem on the M. A smaller frame in height is easier to solve (put saddle higher) than a frame that's too long (having to mess around with stems, and worst case having a really short one that changes the handling of the bike).
Fitting on an xs with 5.10 made me worried for the smaller people but then I saw the girl riding and it didn't look too bad. Bike sizing is weird anyways.
@@TheSeriph They also could have an XXS on offer.
@@TheSeriph It looked too long reach for her for sure.
5.10 !!! Everyone always adds inches !
4.10 😁
5' 10'' is an xs frame?
Im 5' 2'' , what's left for me? It's there size xxs ?
It looks like a cracking bike. As for a question, would Decathlon let one near Hmabini for a QA review?
Decathlon is such an awesome company!
Does anyone know where i can get the new ag2r helmet? It looks very cool and fast while probably being cheaper than an s-works :)
Hi Francis, can you let me know the retail price of the bike please and maybe the less hi speced model (105) i looked online but doesn't look like they're on sale yet, thanks
when will it be released? will they have it for test rides at Decathlon?
Gorgeous bike. I wish we could have one in Brazil.
basically all DT Swiss aero wheels will say aero done by swissside, they are legit but just a bit heavy. I can even imagine they are basically the same as DT Swiss wheels
did you feel comfortable on xs frame ?
Love watching the channel did it hear correct ... 5.10 and a XS ?. are they coming to the shops for general sale.
How much watts or faster compared to the 2019 RCR?
Never heard of Swisside before?! What kind of cycling channel is this?
In Decathlon's website, it says that for a XS it's recommended a rider to be 155cm or less (5'1). How can you ride a XS, being 5'10? I'm 5'6 and I was thinking about buying an S but your video made me confused about the sizes.
How did the developers determine what level of stiffness they wanted for the bike, specifically for the bottom bracket and fork. What level of stiffness was aimed for?
Would love to see you guys do a review of Van Rysel NCR CF with Sram Rival etap on it, at 2800€ it looks to be quite a bang for your buck!
How nice! I get to watch this Decathlon advertisement for free!! Spending the dough to supply AG2R is working already - a department store brand is now cool enough to get fashionistas like you on 'em. How many will pony up the cash to BUY one is the big question.
what's the brand of the shades tho?
Question for Decathlon: any chance that this bike will be sold in Australia?
Heard from a singapore decathlon rep that it won't be coming to APAC. Dunno if that applies to AU
I have a question, when can we buy such a replica? Looks absolutely fantastic
You can't
Yeh Lucy.
Those glasses are sick! 😍
Will decathlon be building out smaller stores perhaps a bit more widespread? They’re so few & far between, it would make it a large PITA to get one serviced at the shop should something need it.
will it be available as a frameset?