The Royal Navy's Sea Venom Was One Of The Best Straight Winged Jet Fighters

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  • Although it served only briefly and is now essentially forgotten, the de Havilland Sea Venom was an excellent all-weather fighter and interceptor. It outperformed almost every other straight winged jet fighter and served with distinction in Suez.
    Major Sources:
    "De Havilland, Vampire, Venom and Sea Vixen" by Philip Birtles is the bible on de Havilland's early jets and still holds up well 25 years after publication
    I used the "FAW 20 Sea Vixen: Pilots Notes" for some of the details

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  • @sangomasmith
    @sangomasmith 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +145

    "It was intended to be an interim" invariably means that it will stay in service until the heat death of the universe.

    • @eyerollthereforeiam1709
      @eyerollthereforeiam1709 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      There is nothing so permanent as a temporary government program. Something I heard somewhere, but I can't remember where.

    • @sergeipohkerova7211
      @sergeipohkerova7211 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      "I feel attacked."
      - Fw 190D

    • @NoName-ds5uq
      @NoName-ds5uq 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@eyerollthereforeiam1709sounds like a line from Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister! 🤣

    • @TheAnxiousAardvark
      @TheAnxiousAardvark 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@eyerollthereforeiam1709 Worked for a tech company where a temporary workaround could become the official solution.

    • @gregbailey1753
      @gregbailey1753 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@eyerollthereforeiam1709Ronald Reagan used it often.

  • @pencilpauli9442
    @pencilpauli9442 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Narrator: "...a belly landing that ended up in the Nile..."
    Me: Bloody hell that was one hell of an overshoot!
    Narrator: "...on barrier."
    Me: "Oh. That makes more sense!"

  • @cabanford
    @cabanford 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    I loved watching the Swiss Vampires fly around the Matterhorn until the early 2000s. A work of art ❤

    • @willemsma
      @willemsma 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Rumanian vampires have kept me away many nights.

  • @sixstringedthing
    @sixstringedthing 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I'm just a somewhat enthusiastic armchair pilot from the colonies so I suppose it's no real surprise that I'd never heard of the Sea Venom. But mate, I love the fact that you're quite willing to let your own interests and fascinations with obscure variants drive the direction of the channel. Feels like a perfect mix between "TV docos, but when they were good" and "TH-cam, but how it used to be". Keep up the fine work, cheers from Sydney. 👍
    ed: never really got into D&D (not yet anyway), but as someone who has played the original Ghosts & Goblins I'd suggest that both should definitely be feared.

  • @Freesavh1776
    @Freesavh1776 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Ever since I saw the P-38 Fork tail devil I've been in love with twin boom planes. The Venom & Vixen were just like a natural growth of the P-38. I know that it wasn't but it definitely seemed that way. Dehavilin made a mono tail jet using the center fuselage of the venom.

  • @TheWombat40
    @TheWombat40 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    You seem to have your RAN carriers mixed up a tad. The Australian government did purchase a Majestic Class carrier in 1948 but the was HMS Terrible, recommissioned as HMAS Sydney. Sydney operated Firefly, Sea Fury and Sycamore aircraft off the coast of Korea. Another Majestic class carrier was purchased in the early 1950s, this was Majestic recommissioned as Melbourne and was delivered in about 1955, operating Sea Venom, Gannets and Wessex. Whilst awaiting the delivery of Majestic/Melbourne the RAN used the carrier HMS Vengeance. The Sea Venom was operated by the RANAS squadrons VS 805 and VC 724 (724 was the second line/training) squadron. The Sea Venom was retired by the RAN at the start of 1975. I joined the apprentices school (HMAS Nirimba) in mid 1975 and we had a Sea Venom as one of our training aircraft (the other being a DC3)

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    A wonderful historical coverage video about British Sea Venom Fighter

  • @roo72
    @roo72 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Almsot forgot! Chilling around a campfire after a long hike. Greeting from Port Moorowie, South Australia.

    • @willemsma
      @willemsma 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Simon says: Who is Almsot?

    • @roo72
      @roo72 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@willemsma My best mate.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@roo72You and me and the bottle makes three? Or just Me, Myself and I?

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging3044 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Why the 🤬 can't I throw money at a content provider like this?
    A man does good work I like to do my part showing how much I appreciate his hard work and his service to keeping history alive!

  • @ComradeKiwii
    @ComradeKiwii 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    videos never let down keep it up

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    "Forced to wait in their sinking aircraft until the carrier had passed overhead before jettisoning the canopy and swimming to the surface." Now that is some weapons grade nightmare fuel right there!

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      After the second time you might consider your position as a pilot or navigator...

    • @thekinginyellow1744
      @thekinginyellow1744 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I hope they were awarded dolphins!

  • @richardvernon317
    @richardvernon317 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The V bomber used on Musketeer was the Valiant!!

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Very good, sir! I've always had a soft spot for these odd-looking aircraft. The single-seaters are cute, but the NFs are...'dumpy' at best. Still, remarkable performance and service!

  • @michaelfrench3396
    @michaelfrench3396 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    She's a pretty sweet video. Thanks for the hard work! You know it occurs to me every time I see a picture of a British or American aircraft carrier from early '60s through the mid '70s. I can't help but think how goddamn good those aircraft. Look with a black radio. The A6 intruder looked badass with that black nose. The sea venom looks badass with that black nose. Just my two cents. Hope everybody has a great weekend!

  • @tonyhaynes9080
    @tonyhaynes9080 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember as a young boy in the sixties, going to Gaydon airshow with my dad and having my photo taken in one. Where have all the years and dreams gone?

  • @coreyandnathanielchartier3749
    @coreyandnathanielchartier3749 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Although many state they've never heard of this jet, older types as myself are quite familiar with it as it's been written up quite extensively in many books over the years. An example is 'Great Carrier Aircraft' 1996 Peter Darman ed. Also covers the Sea Hawk in some detail. The problem is, no one reads books any more, and the 'information highway' turned out to be a propaganda tool commercialized to the nth degree. Appreciate your efforts in the compilation and presentation of this doco.

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    1:34 Holy shit, that start-up....When engines stopped smoking on start-up, the ground crews must have felt disorientated as to whether or not the engine had turned over, lol!

    • @maxcleveland3446
      @maxcleveland3446 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's the smoke from the cartridge starting system.

  • @griff2162
    @griff2162 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Ah, I love when it doesn't rain. Not a pound of water from air to ground today..

  • @originalSPECTER
    @originalSPECTER 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One of the coolest looking aircraft. Love that tail configuration!

  • @JGCR59
    @JGCR59 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What can I say, I am looking forward to your video each friday and as usual it was very well done

  • @manuelkatsos5104
    @manuelkatsos5104 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another great episode.!!!!! Keep it up. How about a video about the F105 and its Mig killing exploits during Rolling Thunder when
    it shot down 27.5 Mig 17s during strike missions over Route Pack 6 North Vietnam

  • @PaulP999
    @PaulP999 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In the early seventies I stumbled upon Swiss Venoms doing strafe practise on a floating target in a lake alongside the road I was on. I liked seeing the gun flashes before hearing the shots.

  • @stevepirie8130
    @stevepirie8130 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    No ejection seat? Brave pilots

    • @TyrannoJoris_Rex
      @TyrannoJoris_Rex 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah guess just hope that if you ever have to bail out, you can pull into a shallow climb and roll inverted so you don't get sucked into the wing intakes or get hit by the tail boom

  • @AaronStuartHall
    @AaronStuartHall 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Love the D&D reference 😂

  • @davedaihatsu2585
    @davedaihatsu2585 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    1:23
    October 1956, Malayan Emergency, de Havilland Venom FB.1 fighter-bombers of No. 14 Squadron RNZAF, based at RAF Tengah Singapore, starting up for a mission using Coffman starters.

    • @thekinginyellow1744
      @thekinginyellow1744 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I love the smell of cartridge starts in the morning. It smells like cough, hack, gag, choke, nevermind ...

  • @VeeTaperTemplar
    @VeeTaperTemplar 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Great Channel and even better narration, Americans love being explained things through a English Accent 😂😂
    Captures our attention 4sure

    • @mizake01
      @mizake01 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Que?

  • @thekinginyellow1744
    @thekinginyellow1744 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It always amazed me that that whole series of aircraft had any rudder authority with those tiny little vertical stabs. Reminds me of those toothpick, string, and tissue paper aircraft from WWI

  • @NickRatnieks
    @NickRatnieks 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Back in 1971, when I was revising for my O Levels, one of these- a trainer would go around and around over our house in Southsea on a circuit. I did pop out to see it once or twice and it was ultimately replaced by a Sea Vixen at HMS Daedalus, RNAS Lee-on-Solent where it was based. I saw a lot more of that aircraft- a very big beast.

  • @jamess3241
    @jamess3241 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I am first comment for the past three videos in a row! I hope you read your early comments, because you need to know that you're one of the best creators on TH-cam and I absolutely love your videos. I've been involved in aerospace in one way or another for the past 20 years. Much of it was flying Target drones for the military, and the rest of it from being an avid RC pilot. I also live directly under the approach line at a very large Air Force Base in oklahoma. Needless to say I absolutely love airplanes! I've learned everything I could about them for my entire life. I just recently discovered your channel. I've gone back through and been watched almost all of your episodes. I consider myself pretty well versed an aircraft, especially the military type, and you never cease to teach me 10 or 15 new things on every episode! Thank you so much, because I'm having the time of my life every time you post one

    • @jamess3241
      @jamess3241 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      BINGE* WATCHED

    • @jamess3241
      @jamess3241 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well versed IN aircraft lol

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      @jamess3241 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

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    • @jamess3241
      @jamess3241 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @Retroscoop
    @Retroscoop วันที่ผ่านมา

    "At least, the second time was no surprise" :)) Lovely :)

  • @toda304
    @toda304 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i had the pleasure of dismantling a sea venom to be shipped to a new museum when ours closed ,.a beautifully built aircraft.
    ours served on the HMAS Melbourne.

  • @martinboland810
    @martinboland810 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Melbourne was in service until the early 1980's
    It was the Sydney that decommissioned in the '70's (and had been a troop transport for years beforehand)

  • @Ensign_Cthulhu
    @Ensign_Cthulhu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I read somewhere that very late Sea Venoms in British service had Firestreak heat-seeking AAMs.

  • @rodneyjackson7147
    @rodneyjackson7147 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The older i get they just get more and more beautiful!

  • @AC_702
    @AC_702 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A D&D reference! Nice!

  • @malcolmseigmiller1622
    @malcolmseigmiller1622 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would love for you to talk about the mig23 or mig 29 you mentioned them in your soviet design Bureau video

  • @sengalsolutions7386
    @sengalsolutions7386 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    HMAS Melbourne retired from service in 1982, not 1970! 😊

  • @PeterMuskrat6968
    @PeterMuskrat6968 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Claiming to have the best straight winged jet is like claiming to have the best trapdoor rifle conversion... everyone else is already using Repeaters.

  • @minhthunguyendang9900
    @minhthunguyendang9900 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Yet in 1962 when the Iraqi lunatic dictator colonel Kassem tried to seize Kuwait, those SeaVenom fighters scared him
    into backing down.

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Okay, but Sea Venom is ultimately derivative and a poor copy of Sea Spider-Man.

  • @tetraxis3011
    @tetraxis3011 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its like a better Vampire.

  • @glennridsdale577
    @glennridsdale577 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely no Venoms were replaced by Swifts. Only one fighter squadron were unfortunate to use the latter (56 Sqn) and then only as an evaluation - they didn't relinquish their Meteors until the Hunter F.5 arrived in May 1955. The only two operational Swift units were 2 and 79 Sqns, neither of which ever used Venoms either.

  • @allancarey2604
    @allancarey2604 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mmmmm…..1st the Air forces, now the Navies…..are you stoking Australia/Canada beef again? Or was the Sabre vids a little to much fun *grins*(challenge for you now is to find an army related one :) )

  • @lessonslearned2569
    @lessonslearned2569 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those of us who have played Ghost's Goblins will say, "Well, actually...."

  • @scottessery100
    @scottessery100 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    1:30 coal fired?

  • @tnesp
    @tnesp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:30 The Venom's diesel propulsion gets too little attention. Rolling coal to the skies!

  • @Crissy_the_wonder
    @Crissy_the_wonder 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:14 it Valiants not Victors joining Canberras in high-level bombing

  • @enscroggs
    @enscroggs 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No ejection seat? And I thought P-38 pilots had it bad. At least they didn't risk being rotisseried by jet exhaust.

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about against the Grumman F9F Panther?

    • @jimdavis8391
      @jimdavis8391 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The panther had no radar, so it was not comparable.

  • @yes_head
    @yes_head 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Let's face it: ALL carrier born "fighters" of the early 50's were dogs. Some just barked a bit louder than others!

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've not play D&D, but I've played Ghosts' n' Goblins? 😆

  • @waynesworldofsci-tech
    @waynesworldofsci-tech 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep, Ghosts are more powerful than Goblins.
    LOL. You made me laugh with that one.

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex
    @TyrannoJoris_Rex 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ohhh I do _not_ like that nose gear spinning like that at the start of the video...

  • @AT-ni4sf
    @AT-ni4sf 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    God it's almost as ugly as the swedish Tunnan😅😅 But thx for another great interesting video. Keep them coming😎🤙

  • @RedneckSpaceman
    @RedneckSpaceman 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm always making fun of the Brits..calling them "Limeys" and other names...fact is that those Brits knew (still know) how to design & build some badass planes! Same for their Engines! The Merlins and Griffons by Rolls Royce turned the Yank P-51s into Deadly Killers!! With proper techniques, P-51s were able to hold their own against he ME-262 Jets. Though the ME-262 had turbo-jets, the airframe was inferior to the P-51 also the P-51 was far more maneuverable!!