Quartertone Jazz - Microtonal Guitar & Saxophone
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Philipp Gerschlauer's "Ich Hab's Mal Versucht," performed by Tolgahan Çoğulu (microtonal guitar) and Philipp Gerschlauer (saxophone) at the Fortress of Knin, Croatia on August 24th, 2014 as part of the MicroFest Knin.
Recording: Nina Rotner
Video/Sound: Philipp Gerschlauer
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#quartertone #quartertones #jazz
Never heard something like this before, sound like out of this world. I love it.
Nice to hear that. Try this one: th-cam.com/video/uHqXLpEpJBA/w-d-xo.html
It sucks...
@@theguyof360 you have sucky taste in music smh
@@theguyof360😂
Saxophonist looks like he's having a hard time not laughing!
Yeah, he does, but that's because to play those midtones one has to have inhuman control over embouchure (muscles, mouth, lips, tongue, throat and so on positioning). He's just tense. Saxophones have the tendency to split certain notes (G being one). I haven't studied his technique in detail, and I do not know his horn set-up, but I am assuming he would have a lot of trouble getting clear tones close to G4, G#4, D5, D#5, G5 and G#5. That's probably also why he doesn't go into microtonal altissimo (the extended range that can be reached by overblowing and producing harmonics above the "normal" range of a woodwind instrument).
@@Chronic.Pivoter I like the explanation that the music is just that laughably bad, that he can't hold back his laughter.
@@theguyof360 if it's so bad then explain the pile of semen in mind
@@komitaskomitaskomitas that's another great reason
@@theguyof360 I don’t think that’s the reason, considering the saxophonist composed this piece.
how much effort these two put in to this, philipp amazes me in particular as he invented his own system of fingerings and on top of that figured out how to inplement micros into bop lsngusge
I wonder how many people appreciate how hard microtones are on saxophone
Maaaaan this is it. Thelonious Monk in spirit. Fantastic. Reaally expressive Jazz man, I loved it!!
I imagine a sad clown having a bad day.
Sounds like cut content from Grim Fandango.
That’s such a good album look it up
LOVE IT! COOL and WEIRD in a good way!
This has a really sad feel to it like your just having a bad day
HA HA AHA AHA
It feels like I'm drunk and having a bad day.
I think it has more to do with the timbre quality and tempo. Lazy sax and mellow, straight guitar drumming tends to provoke a sense of clumsy misfortune.
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This is incredible... never heard something like this before.
+MrBretowsky and there is a reason for that...
+William Haney Which is?
Most western music has no quarter tones.
dzc4627 except some contemporary music
Very interesting and surprisingly agreeable to hear, thank you for the effort you put in
A+ collaboration.
Thanks! Check this one: th-cam.com/video/gAWQE2Bxu2c/w-d-xo.html
This sounds just like I Feel.
This is great. I like the feel of being outside major and minor. Nice video.
Happy to hear that. Check this one: th-cam.com/video/uHqXLpEpJBA/w-d-xo.html
*N E U T R A L*
That catchy
Sounds like something that would be playing on the background while Frank Zappa's doing a monologue about poodles
TheGumboVariator Interesting approach.
Fantastic! I only wish the piece was longer 🙂. On the other hand there is beauty in this miniature, it feels like an invitation to the possibilities of quarter tone jazz. I have to say that it's great that you seem to explore new frontiers and do not sacrifice artistic ambitions by trying to reach masses. Power of mind 💪🤓
Thanks a lot! Actually we played two more pieces in Zagreb and I am going to share them soon
i wish it was a LOT shorter, maybe cut it down to 0 seconds
Where can i find them ?!@@microtonalguitar
i your life was a lot shorter 💀💀
like 0 years 💀💀💀💀@@theguyof360
I really enjoy your videos thank you.
Please. How can I hear more microtonal jazz.
+Justin Greenough
Ok. Noted. Next?
+Asma Hashmi so where can I hear more, hmm you friendly person?
+Justin Greenough
I said 'next'..weren't you listening? : p
Listen to Phillip Gerschlauer's music on youtube
+Justin Greenough This one is my favourite: th-cam.com/video/tv6V4m_kV2A/w-d-xo.html
The quarter notes give the saxophone a effect tha resembles a guitar slide
Sounds like a Scooby Doo creepy-funny kind of song
Tired of music being balanced and in tune? Then check out quarter tone music!
I agree!
in other words: tired of music being good?
this is nice...very sad feeling.
Thanks. You might like this as well: th-cam.com/video/yFoASpwFiwA/w-d-xo.html
Legit sounds like a hangover
damn bro the crickets alw ome out whenever i turn this up 🔥🔥
this is great oh geez
Thanks!
This is... almost amazing.
Almost :)
Great love it ❤
Is that a special saxophone, or special fingerings?
Special Fingerings i think so, cuz i dont see something different from a normal sax
Definitely fingerings. There are a number of contemporary "classical" saxophone pieces that call for quarter tones, and you don't need a special instrument to play them.
I believe he has an embouchure technique.
Fingerings! He has developed over 600 different microtonal fingerings by now. One of his videos shows 128 microtones within an octave. The guy is simply amazing!
@@noratinner4725 It should be pointed out that microtonal fingerings usually also need to be aided with the embouchure.
So this is a sample of what it would have sounded like if Ivan Wyschnegradsky had gotten into modern jazz . . . .
How to get 24 notes per octave on guitar is obvious after seeing some other videos on this channel, but how do you get consistent 24 notes per octave on a standard saxophone?
if this song gets on tiktok its never coming back 😭
Very cool! Finally someone writes real music with microtones. Most melodies I've heard with microtones have no contour or direction. Great job!
Listen arab folklore and shut up
What you say seems to be true of a lot of mid-20th Century microtonal music, but I think it's the problem with the mid-20th Century part -- a lot of non-microtonal mid-20th Century classical music sounds like that. The worst seems to have passed, and both non-microtonal and microtonal classical music from more recent years has gotten better. TH-cam seems to have a profusion of recent good microtonal music -- check out Norokusi (the Claude Debussy of 17EDO, but also composing some in other tuning systems), Cam Taylor (improvises good stuff in a wide variety of tuning systems), Tapeworm Saga (who specializes in making hard-to-use tuning systems sound good and actually knows what they're doing when they convert between them), E8 Heterotic (favors 17EDO, but also experimented with a selection of other tuning systems), Scott Crothers (quarter tone specialist), and quite a number of others who I do not intend to slight by not making an exhaustive list. But not all of the mid-20th Century stuff was bad either -- check out Ivan Wyschnegradsky (the original pioneering giant of 24EDO), Charles Ives (dabbled in quarter tone music), and Alois Hába (haven't heard much of his work yet, but the 1 quarter tone composition I have heard a recording of on TH-cam sounded quite good).
In fairness, some of the above appeared on the TH-cam scene only after the posting of your comment, but if you're still hanging around here, check them out.
This is the BGM that plays in Conker's Bad Fur Day when you are drunk XD
I absolutely love your cooperation, will there be more?
wow this really is like monk.. Tol just plays the same thing every chorus, even throughout Philipp's solo in the middle, like monk during the first few choruses of the solo on Evidence.
This is goood!
Con todo el respeto a esas horas y horas de estudio; esto esta horriblemente bello!
Some dizzy back alley SpongeBob music I like it
I'm kinda sad this wasn't recorded somewhere with some acoustics
the whole thing sounds so depressed and out of whack and then the end actually sounds resolved and a bit cheery.... wtf
I give this 4 1/4 stars
I give it 0.25 :)
@@microtonalguitar awww it’s better than that!
@@boboloko It was a joke because he is using quarter (0.25) tones
@@andrewalacarte2906 That was my joke as well
It sounds good. Just my 2 cents
do you have names for the between notes? this reminds me of older jazz.
If you are playing Turkish makam music, all the microtones have their specific names.
For this piece, these are quartertone flats and quartertone sharps.
Also microtonalist have different naming strategies like neutral 3rd or measured as ratios ad the like
john smith I've also heard microtonalists use colors or shapes as a way to name microtones. Like C Violet as opposed ro C 1/16th Sharp or something.
The method is was first introduced to quartertones with and that still seems like the easiest to communicate is adding a + to all of them. So C#+ is the note between C# and D, D+ is the note between D and D# and so on. If you start getting into weirder terminology or things like "sharpening a sharp but as a quartertone and not a traditional double sharp" it just seems like a lot of unnecessary confusion, one simple symbol (doesn't have to be a +, again that's just what I was first exposed to and stuck with) is all you need and makes it crystal clear what every note is after one sentence of explaining the notation being used.
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Beaucoup de travail...pour beaucoup de ....
Merde
Meanwhile... in a parallel universe where Bach was never born...
in bikini bottom when time passes and cobwebs build up in the krusty krab and it's just a skeleton mopping the green planky floor.
Hyperblues
I wonder what his sound is like without the echo...
We have an out of tune player here!
😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Got any sheet music?
Philipp has on his website.
@@microtonalguitar I was actually kidding haha. Like how do you even write microtones?
@@abelton20 Check out his website, different accidentals he uses.
What is the formula for a scale which could play this?
For this piece, you need an additional fret in the middle of each fret on your guitar.
Tolgahan Çoğulu I'm not talking frets on a guitar, I want to know the pattern of the scale. (Where the quarter steps are placed compared to a western scale).
I see. Actually I don't remember it. Whenever Philipp used a quartertone, I tried to include it in the chords I played.
why all musicians all around the world agreed to be constraint and limited into the 12 tones
Sounds like I'm drunk lol
blonde jack black
Lmao the title of this is German and roughly translates to "I just gave it a try"
All those hours of perfect ear-training... RUINED!
Yes, it's been doubled now :)
@@microtonalguitar oH mY gOD
@@anrylstudios :)
@@microtonalguitar That's it, i'm subscribing.
saxophone sounds like siren head
this sax does sound liek a fluti
we needa soyjakify that thumbnail
I feel like im high but im not
A drunk giraffe!........
Hungover music.
That guitar thing is the source of suffering to a music student.
as a classical musician, i think i just had a seizure
This is absolutely terrible and great at the same time.
I strongly suggest that you should learn oriental music (Greek, Turkish, Egypt, Lebanon, Persian etc) that has specific rules and structural points for composing and improv for quarter tones before trying to do something like that.
th-cam.com/video/zGahJ-FaKjY/w-d-xo.html
Tolgahan Çoğulu ok, in this video you proved you know! Why the other one with the sax player doesn't sound right in my ears? What I'm I missing?
That's a very experimental piece in a new genre: microtonal jazz. That might be the reason. Check this one: th-cam.com/video/2hy2ry7X9u0/w-d-xo.html
Tolgahan Çoğulu in order to combine the jazz element you must at least have an instrument that plays chords (jazz harmony, not just triads) in the well tempered tuning. The video you send me has a solo bouzouki that just uses the micro tonal frets. What I'm I missing?
There is absolutely NO Quartertone here.
I generally like the sound of microtonal guitars, but that saxophone just sounds like he's out of tune.
why not just play a fretless guitar
+Jack Brooks Sounds completely different than a fretted guitar. No sustain in chords as well.
The timbre is much different
why not just play a keyless saxophone
There is a place for fretless and Tolgahan plays one but this sets you in with exact limits different to normal western fretting which of course sets it own pattern and flavour.
Derek Hill
Keyless saxophones do in fact exist, they're totally impractical though.
guys, notice that in arabic only certain instruments play quarter notes, maybe it they did it for a reason
Wtf is these piece😂
Horrible give up
Amazing! It actually sounds worse than regular jazz!
God that sucks! Respect to the technique and skill of the artists, but this is crap. Stick to the 12 notes we already have
You do realize that the 12 tone system isn't the all governing tone system of the world right? There are several countries that traditionally use microtonal systems in their music. I'd suggest you listen to some raga, Turkish music, Balkan music, gamelan, and avant-garde jazz. Also I suggest you read about microtonality, especially 22 shruti, one of the most advanced traditional tonal systems in the world right now.
Jake Fettes - I do realize that. And some people might really like it, I just haven't met anybody that does lol. I don't want to listen to anything that sounds this bad. This frustrates me because this is why Jazz is dying. We're so focused on "creating" that we forget music should still be pleasing to the ear. This was painful to listen to!
I thought it was pretty chill lol. In my opinion the entire point of Jazz is creating new things. Rather than dying because the music becomes less pleasing to the ear, I think Jazz would more likely by dying due to a lack of new ideas or progress
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion man...
I fully agree. I know they think it's supposed to be unironic and profound or whatever but it just sounds like a 6 year old just picked up a guitar and played at random.