I think that the Leaf did great for Nissan regarding the technical knowledge it has provided the company in EV production. For me is the perfect city transportation module. However, as you said, they need to build affordable EVs ($20K to $25K).
Picked up a used 2020 Nissan Leaf SL Plus in May 2021 and I absolutely love this vehicle. I’ve driven the hell out of it and racked up 21,000 miles in the first year of use. It has become our primary transportation vehicle and has saved us a ton on gas. Not to mention I have a free EV charger at work and a 8.6 kWh solar panel system at home. Been to Las Vegas twice in it from Los Angeles, granted we needed to stop twice along the way for two 30 minute chademo quick charges.
I leased a Leaf last spring and while it’s a good city car, the lack of a water cooled battery, and to a smaller extent the ChaDeMo plug makes it impossible to use as a solo vehicle. It was a great entrance to electric cars but I’m really looking forward to better EVs
I prefer that automakers come out with more hybrids, at least for the short term, instead of trying to get everyone into EVs right away. I have no way to charge an EV or plug-in hybrid at home, and I don't want to have to depend on charging stations alone to keep my car running.
I like the ideas for cars and I hate that Nissan doesn't make something to compete with the Prius and most manufacturers don't. But the hybrid RAV4 or any hybrid SUV is the worst mistake money can buy. It only gets a few more mpg than a rav and its at least 8 grand more on the MSRP not even mentioning dealer pricing on a hybrid
It really depends on the yearly mileage you do, how fast the battery charge and if you go for a lease instead of buying .. It’s a puzzle but for me, i’ll go for a lease. I do about 8000 miles/ year. Leasing means that you dont care to use commercial level 3 fast charge. It makes the battery of the car life shorter, but since you lease, it wont affect you. That level 3 fast charge takes 30 min from 20% to 80%. So, Because i do only 8k miles/year.. i can fully charge the car once a month .. that’s 30 minutes/month In Canads, i can lease for 3 years for about 350$ USD/month. So .. 30 min/month for 350 USD taxes in.. That’s a pretty sweet deal in my book.
The Leaf has been a brilliant torch-bearer for EVs, a great introduction to electric motoring for so many of us. I really hope the HangOut concept makes it to production for the US market, and Nissan will keep it low-spec, practical and affordable.
We picked up a 2022 S Plus and got it for $25K after the $7500. It's our first EV and we love it! Coming from a WRX and a GTI, the acceleration on the S Plus from 30-60 is so much fun. It's comfortable and practical and also fun to drive. We put 6K miles on her already in less than 3-months- Great car!
I love my 2018 LEAF. It’s a fun car that does everything I need a daily driver to do. It’s not perfect, but no car is. Mine has only one rapid charge in its life, probably the factory test charge, and that is very likely why it has no degradation. I charge at 6kw and use the charge timer to delay charging to finish just before I leave for work. That means that I’m not charging a hot battery, and in the winter my battery is warm when I leave for work. The LEAF was the first mass market EV, of course they didn’t get everything right. I’d bet money some enterprising person is looking at how to swap in salvage Tesla cell modules and use a can bridge to talk to them.
I loved the Leaf, but this is not surprising given that they were unwilling to add liquid cooling and CCS. I do think they have great value if you do your research and understand it's limitations. It should not be the primary car, but can work really well as a second car assuming you can charge at home and never need to use it for a long road trip.
I almost bought a leaf today for 10k, a 2013 model, but left the dealership to do more research and found this great video to help me make my decision. Thanks Kirk
I searched online and found only one documented Leaf fire in 2015. Does cramming too many cells into some of these cars cause fires as per the Chevy Bolts problems? We love our 2022 Leaf SV plus as our around town car and our Subaru Legacy for road trips. We live in the pac nw.
I agree with the Nissan Hang-Out concept as a LEAF replacement - what an incredible move that would be. The Hang-Out is the first concept out of Nissan in over a decade that actually gets me excited. The market feels ripe for someone to put out another compact ultra-versatility vehicle like the Element/xB/cube. I haven't been a fan of Nissan's reliability in comparison to Honda/Toyota, but the shift to a total electric drivetrain may give them an opportunity to "reset" their fortunes there. (most of their issues have been with poorly made CVTs - a non-factor for an EV)
Great Info Kirk. Nissan needs more interesting stuff like last year. To me, the Altima refresh announced recently is not enough. The Sentra is nice looking but where is the higher performance version. The Ariya should do well when it come out but that was delayed already and may be pushed back in to 23.
I’m looking forward to getting my hands on an Ariya…it’s much bigger than what the pictures lead on, but the delays are very concerning! I thought by now, Nissan would have kept the Murano hybrid & Rogue Hybrids going…but they didn’t….if they did, I think they would have a better grip on the market, with at least one of the most popular suvs (the rogue) being a hybrid or possible EV by now. I think they are really missing out on great opportunities to stay relevant in todays market.
Kirk, as a former employee of a Nissan dealer IT HURTS ME A LOT that these 🤡🤡at Nissan keep doing a few competitive products (Altima, Frontier, Rogue) and then TAKE THEIR SWEET TIME updating them to be competitive. I see the Ariya as TOO EXPENSIVE for their niche (it's closer in size to the Rogue Sport / Qashqai, and that size is not selling like 🥞in North America). "If" Nissan see fit to sell the BET pickup and the smaller crossover at reasonable prices (both cheaper than the almost Tesla Model 3 money Nissan will ask for the Ariya) then they "could" be saved. Otherwise, see Infiniti (and Mitsubishi) out of USDM by '30 and Nissan by '35. Someone, all those Nissan execs in Japan need some seriously powerful 🔦🔦...
You said the tax credit for the Leaf is going away, do you have a source for that? I can only find information from March. I'm looking to buy a new leaf very soon (my previous just got totaled) so this information is very relevant to me.
Best affordable electrical car on the market. Sad to see it go. It's a legend for electric cars just like the Prius is for hybrids. I hope Nissan pulls through and doesn't have to leave the North American market, because jokes aside their cars are better than a lot of other manufacturers.
Sucks to see the Leaf go. Not a fan of the first gen but the second gen looks very decent, with the interior dash very within the times, without grossly going over (unlike with the new Ariya). IMO it should at least be a very good fleet vehicle, as long as the internal EV system gets properly maintained.
LEAF is a huge sucess in EU! , even after TM3 available. That numbers are wrong ! Furthermore, LEAF older models have new cheap battery packs to re-install !
Puzzled? I could not find in six neighboring states a Dealer with any 2022 Leafs all sold out! So, about a month ago one of the Dealers I previously contacted telephoned me and said he just got in a 2023 Leaf Plus. I drove immediately and bought it. My 2017 Leaf spent a winter in Idaho and three hot summers in Scottsdale with no issues. I love this new Leaf! But for most folks it might be best to have it as a local run around vehicle. I did take a long distant trip with three friends and for that trip I rented from Hertz an ICE vehicle.
Yeah, Nissan needs something to get the USA market excited about them. Ariya looks good but is it good enough to be bought in numbers over its competitors? Nissan used to be big here but sales have shrunk. I agree with all the observations presented here from no more cars under the Leaf name, more like 5 vs. 15 cars by decade's end and some sort of crossover version of the Hangout might create a buzz for Nissan. Right now, Nissan and Infiniti are pretty flat so some hit product, or just one that makes people notice Nissan more, would be welcome.
Nissan's main problem which I see them trying to fix is their quality and cost cutting savings. If they could just ditch the CVT in all their vehicles, spend a little more on quality, refinement, it would be a better competitor to Toyota.
The second gen LEAF really needed thermal management for the battery but also, Nissan still gave it a CHAdeMO charging connection which makes zero sense in the US at this point.
6:57 It reminds me of the Cube if that continued on. I had that car. I bought it as a joke and found out I LOVED it. But to the concept those blistered side windows would never make it to production. The thing is they need stuff like that to stand out. Automakers never do. Its why we cant have nice things. That green sports car in the lower left is insane.
Sunset of the $7,500 tax credit is the sunset of the Leaf. Just completed 500-mile day trip in 2022 Plus SV; 105°F and 9,000 ft. elevation gain; no issues. 2 hours spent charging doubled as mealtimes. A Bolt won't pull 33kW @ 80% SOC!
Hey, keep up the content. I really think you are right about Nissan not being able to come out with 15 models in the U.S. by 2030. Hopefully when they do come out they are good models and hopefully come out with great concepts with the production version of whatever they come out with. I also sat inside of a Ariya last weekend and I like the direction that it was going with the interior. I liked the interior a lot. I was like can nissan give me one for free lmao.
The leaf it’s being a great little inexpensive commuter for me and the Family. We got it before the gas $$$ it only get me 60 miles off range (actual 30 miles). But it’s all I need to drive every day to work. Great value for me. I also own a LR modelY. The leaf is what push me to get the Y.
I don't mine them going all in on EVs I just think the government should do more to get charging on one unified network & mandate gas stations near highways have charging infrastructure hell even provide funding if they want all this to work 💯
There’s a wide open space in the electrified market that seems to have been overlooked. Somebody really needs to make a plug in hybrid SUV/pick up with the first 30-ish miles achieved on electricity, and then the gas motor will take over, to make towing more simplified. Until there are trailer accessible charging stations, it’s MUCH more convenient to tow with an ice engine. Just a thought, I know I would buy one.
The rav4 prime can easily do that. Not a super high towing capacity (3000 i think) but for most people thats enough. Im waiting for plug in hybids to break 75-100mi then it would be a no brainer. 99% of what i need could be done on electric then
@@Bum_Hip oh yeah i know. But right now is an awful time to purchase a vehicle, so hopefully by next year we will get more inventory of all cars and not be at the mercy of stealerships
One of the big problems with the leaf was that Nissan, with its head firmly up its rear end, didn't actively cool the battery. Cost saving measure, as usual with Nissan. As a result, batteries failed early. And Nissan being Nissan didn't want to know anything about it. This annoyed customers. Contributing, with many other things, to Nissans terrible reputation which it has now
This right here with cost cutting savings always trickles downs to the consumer, and it shows. I was fed up with it and switched my alliance to Toyota.
Nissan needs to come out ahead on electrification if it wants to survive post Ghosn. Ghosn era Nissan's were hot trash that destroyed the company's reputation.
🤦🏾♂️… bro I got a lot of Toyota & Lexus news to keep up with so I don’t know if I can worry about Nissan right now…I think u be bringing enough from my two favorite models already so am good 😁
The Nissan Leaf would have sold better as a hybrid first. They should have sold the Leaf as a hybrid, plug-in hybrid, and EV. The hybrid version would have been much cheaper.
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The question is, what’s going to happen to all these used batteries? I’m sure they’ll become a major environmental issues in the coming years, just like solar panels. Perhaps Toyota had more foresight than we all expected….hydrogen is the future.
Nissan has said they want to electrify the micra, so hopefully they bring that state side. My guess is that they did this in order to try to separate the leafs successor so that they can improve their image
Nissan is making a mistake discontinuing the Leaf…they’re going to be kicking themselves when Tesla releases the Model 2. All the Leaf needs is an updated battery….it’ll be one of the cheapest EV’s on the market. Just the the Honda Element and FJ Cruiser, they were ahead of their time.
I think whats happening is they are retiring the leaf name to do away with the bad press of the leaf so far. Then theyll come up with a car addressing the leafs issues that is a hatchback/small crossover
It’s obvious Nissan took their R&D and investments off of Infiniti in the late 2000’s and bet everything on the Leaf which never took off. Finance lesson: Bad idea to invest in money losing products. I miss Infiniti.
The Leaf is dead because it's very old technology. I think Nissan is working on a new model based around more modern battery packs that may arrived by 2024.
Nissan as a whole have bad sales . When word gets around that a automaker uses crap transmission. People stay away . Reputation is everything in auto industry
Pig = Personal Instant Gratification! I want it & I want it now! Japanese cars take time & that’s why they are number one in the world for quality! Many of us have turned into a needy, entitled PIGs & when the product we had to have yesterday breaks down due to lack of R&D….then the toys really get thrown out of the cot! I want, I want, I want it now. Gluttony, greed & impatience with new cars is something that needs to be looked at in my opinion. Good things come to those who wait…..ask your Grandparents.
Leaf was from the, “let’s make the EV truly ugly so people don’t buy it phase.” But sadly Nissan has made hideous cars for years. That’s not an opinion. It’s a fact they have frumpy designs and look like rental cars while Mazda one upped them on every model. Finally the Pathfinder is a new direction I hope.
Nissan dropped the ball with the Leaf. The redesign needed to set a new standard to keep competitors at bay. Instead we got new styling and hardly any increase in range for the initial release.
@@chezzyperson3339 Even here in Canada i am surprised they still compete. I think Mitsubishi has maybe four models to choose from...not much and quality has always been questionable.
I think that the Leaf did great for Nissan regarding the technical knowledge it has provided the company in EV production. For me is the perfect city transportation module. However, as you said, they need to build affordable EVs ($20K to $25K).
Picked up a used 2020 Nissan Leaf SL Plus in May 2021 and I absolutely love this vehicle. I’ve driven the hell out of it and racked up 21,000 miles in the first year of use. It has become our primary transportation vehicle and has saved us a ton on gas. Not to mention I have a free EV charger at work and a 8.6 kWh solar panel system at home. Been to Las Vegas twice in it from Los Angeles, granted we needed to stop twice along the way for two 30 minute chademo quick charges.
I leased a Leaf last spring and while it’s a good city car, the lack of a water cooled battery, and to a smaller extent the ChaDeMo plug makes it impossible to use as a solo vehicle. It was a great entrance to electric cars but I’m really looking forward to better EVs
I prefer that automakers come out with more hybrids, at least for the short term, instead of trying to get everyone into EVs right away. I have no way to charge an EV or plug-in hybrid at home, and I don't want to have to depend on charging stations alone to keep my car running.
Completely agree
I like the ideas for cars and I hate that Nissan doesn't make something to compete with the Prius and most manufacturers don't. But the hybrid RAV4 or any hybrid SUV is the worst mistake money can buy. It only gets a few more mpg than a rav and its at least 8 grand more on the MSRP not even mentioning dealer pricing on a hybrid
Toyotas got alot of hybrids so you can choose from there. I mean if you cant afford EV then dont get it. Simple as that
@@JesusIsLord7773 they also have huge tax rebates on evs that can be used to get everything set up for charging.
It really depends on the yearly mileage you do, how fast the battery charge and if you go for a lease instead of buying ..
It’s a puzzle but for me, i’ll go for a lease.
I do about 8000 miles/ year.
Leasing means that you dont care to use commercial level 3 fast charge. It makes the battery of the car life shorter, but since you lease, it wont affect you.
That level 3 fast charge takes 30 min from 20% to 80%.
So, Because i do only 8k miles/year..
i can fully charge the car once a month .. that’s 30 minutes/month
In Canads, i can lease for 3 years for about 350$ USD/month.
So .. 30 min/month for 350 USD taxes in..
That’s a pretty sweet deal in my book.
The Leaf has been a brilliant torch-bearer for EVs, a great introduction to electric motoring for so many of us. I really hope the HangOut concept makes it to production for the US market, and Nissan will keep it low-spec, practical and affordable.
We picked up a 2022 S Plus and got it for $25K after the $7500. It's our first EV and we love it! Coming from a WRX and a GTI, the acceleration on the S Plus from 30-60 is so much fun. It's comfortable and practical and also fun to drive. We put 6K miles on her already in less than 3-months- Great car!
I love my 2018 LEAF. It’s a fun car that does everything I need a daily driver to do. It’s not perfect, but no car is. Mine has only one rapid charge in its life, probably the factory test charge, and that is very likely why it has no degradation. I charge at 6kw and use the charge timer to delay charging to finish just before I leave for work. That means that I’m not charging a hot battery, and in the winter my battery is warm when I leave for work. The LEAF was the first mass market EV, of course they didn’t get everything right. I’d bet money some enterprising person is looking at how to swap in salvage Tesla cell modules and use a can bridge to talk to them.
Nissan leaf was a legend and still is .it will be missed .🇯🇵👍
@@chezzyperson3339 agreed
I loved the Leaf, but this is not surprising given that they were unwilling to add liquid cooling and CCS. I do think they have great value if you do your research and understand it's limitations. It should not be the primary car, but can work really well as a second car assuming you can charge at home and never need to use it for a long road trip.
I noticed that the Hyundai Kona EV is missing from your list. It’s a more economical contender than the ioniq and would make for a good comparison
I almost bought a leaf today for 10k, a 2013 model, but left the dealership to do more research and found this great video to help me make my decision. Thanks Kirk
I searched online and found only one documented Leaf fire in 2015. Does cramming too many cells into some of these cars cause fires as per the Chevy Bolts problems? We love our 2022 Leaf SV plus as our around town car and our Subaru Legacy for road trips. We live in the pac nw.
I agree with the Nissan Hang-Out concept as a LEAF replacement - what an incredible move that would be. The Hang-Out is the first concept out of Nissan in over a decade that actually gets me excited. The market feels ripe for someone to put out another compact ultra-versatility vehicle like the Element/xB/cube.
I haven't been a fan of Nissan's reliability in comparison to Honda/Toyota, but the shift to a total electric drivetrain may give them an opportunity to "reset" their fortunes there. (most of their issues have been with poorly made CVTs - a non-factor for an EV)
Great Info Kirk. Nissan needs more interesting stuff like last year. To me, the Altima refresh announced recently is not enough. The Sentra is nice looking but where is the higher performance version. The Ariya should do well when it come out but that was delayed already and may be pushed back in to 23.
I’m looking forward to getting my hands on an Ariya…it’s much bigger than what the pictures lead on, but the delays are very concerning! I thought by now, Nissan would have kept the Murano hybrid & Rogue Hybrids going…but they didn’t….if they did, I think they would have a better grip on the market, with at least one of the most popular suvs (the rogue) being a hybrid or possible EV by now. I think they are really missing out on great opportunities to stay relevant in todays market.
I know it's not all that likely, but I hope that one of the fruits from the Honda-Sony partnership would be a Leaf or Bolt sized hatchback
Bolt is discontinued too. Americans don’t like small cars.
Kirk, as a former employee of a Nissan dealer IT HURTS ME A LOT that these 🤡🤡at Nissan keep doing a few competitive products (Altima, Frontier, Rogue) and then TAKE THEIR SWEET TIME updating them to be competitive.
I see the Ariya as TOO EXPENSIVE for their niche (it's closer in size to the Rogue Sport / Qashqai, and that size is not selling like 🥞in North America). "If" Nissan see fit to sell the BET pickup and the smaller crossover at reasonable prices (both cheaper than the almost Tesla Model 3 money Nissan will ask for the Ariya) then they "could" be saved. Otherwise, see Infiniti (and Mitsubishi) out of USDM by '30 and Nissan by '35.
Someone, all those Nissan execs in Japan need some seriously powerful 🔦🔦...
Nissan ain’t leaving the u.s. any time soon. They’re back in the black and pulling in billions of profit.
You said the tax credit for the Leaf is going away, do you have a source for that? I can only find information from March. I'm looking to buy a new leaf very soon (my previous just got totaled) so this information is very relevant to me.
New nissan ayria is fantastic and one of the best in its class . ❤🇯🇵
Best affordable electrical car on the market. Sad to see it go. It's a legend for electric cars just like the Prius is for hybrids. I hope Nissan pulls through and doesn't have to leave the North American market, because jokes aside their cars are better than a lot of other manufacturers.
Sucks to see the Leaf go. Not a fan of the first gen but the second gen looks very decent, with the interior dash very within the times, without grossly going over (unlike with the new Ariya). IMO it should at least be a very good fleet vehicle, as long as the internal EV system gets properly maintained.
I am very sad, I wanted to buy one until Toyota has a EV Hatchback
How can I see your spreadsheet?
LEAF is a huge sucess in EU! , even after TM3 available. That numbers are wrong ! Furthermore, LEAF older models have new cheap battery packs to re-install !
Exactly. This is just propaganda … leaf is back ordered in so many countries .. Canada being one
Puzzled? I could not find in six neighboring states a Dealer with any 2022 Leafs all sold out! So, about a month ago one of the Dealers I previously contacted telephoned me and said he just got in a 2023 Leaf Plus. I drove immediately and bought it. My 2017 Leaf spent a winter in Idaho and three hot summers in Scottsdale with no issues. I love this new Leaf! But for most folks it might be best to have it as a local run around vehicle. I did take a long distant trip with three friends and for that trip I rented from Hertz an ICE vehicle.
Yeah, Nissan needs something to get the USA market excited about them. Ariya looks good but is it good enough to be bought in numbers over its competitors? Nissan used to be big here but sales have shrunk. I agree with all the observations presented here from no more cars under the Leaf name, more like 5 vs. 15 cars by decade's end and some sort of crossover version of the Hangout might create a buzz for Nissan. Right now, Nissan and Infiniti are pretty flat so some hit product, or just one that makes people notice Nissan more, would be welcome.
Hey Kirk!!! Another great review 👌🏽
You said the Nissan leaf tax credit is gone but I just looked it up and they said the 2023 leaf is still getting the tax credit… is my info wrong?
Nissan's main problem which I see them trying to fix is their quality and cost cutting savings. If they could just ditch the CVT in all their vehicles, spend a little more on quality, refinement, it would be a better competitor to Toyota.
R.I.P. Leaf.
Thank god it's dead.
The second gen LEAF really needed thermal management for the battery but also, Nissan still gave it a CHAdeMO charging connection which makes zero sense in the US at this point.
6:57 It reminds me of the Cube if that continued on. I had that car. I bought it as a joke and found out I LOVED it. But to the concept those blistered side windows would never make it to production. The thing is they need stuff like that to stand out. Automakers never do. Its why we cant have nice things. That green sports car in the lower left is insane.
Sunset of the $7,500 tax credit is the sunset of the Leaf. Just completed 500-mile day trip in 2022 Plus SV; 105°F and 9,000 ft. elevation gain; no issues. 2 hours spent charging doubled as mealtimes. A Bolt won't pull 33kW @ 80% SOC!
Do you have anything that confirms the tax credit is being removed? Or know when that's happening?
Sad to hear about this... I thought the Leaf was the best selling electric & affordable electric vehicle!?
When someone mentions that Leaf, the first things I think are battery degradation and zero resale value.
Hey, keep up the content. I really think you are right about Nissan not being able to come out with 15 models in the U.S. by 2030. Hopefully when they do come out they are good models and hopefully come out with great concepts with the production version of whatever they come out with. I also sat inside of a Ariya last weekend and I like the direction that it was going with the interior. I liked the interior a lot. I was like can nissan give me one for free lmao.
The leaf it’s being a great little inexpensive commuter for me and the Family. We got it before the gas $$$ it only get me 60 miles off range (actual 30 miles). But it’s all I need to drive every day to work.
Great value for me. I also own a LR modelY. The leaf is what push me to get the Y.
I don't mine them going all in on EVs I just think the government should do more to get charging on one unified network & mandate gas stations near highways have charging infrastructure hell even provide funding if they want all this to work 💯
Good like finding a battery in 10-15 years.
you can't find them to test drive. They are flying out of the showroom.
Hopefully Nissan would transform the Leaf to be a not-so-Versa EV
Can you make a video on new Federal tax credit and which cars are eligible ?
It's very expensive here in the Philippines for a sedan
best selling EV in Europe.
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There’s a wide open space in the electrified market that seems to have been overlooked. Somebody really needs to make a plug in hybrid SUV/pick up with the first 30-ish miles achieved on electricity, and then the gas motor will take over, to make towing more simplified. Until there are trailer accessible charging stations, it’s MUCH more convenient to tow with an ice engine. Just a thought, I know I would buy one.
The rav4 prime can easily do that. Not a super high towing capacity (3000 i think) but for most people thats enough. Im waiting for plug in hybids to break 75-100mi then it would be a no brainer. 99% of what i need could be done on electric then
@@sanjoabraham7316 the problem is, The Rav 4 prime is pretty much sold out for another year.
@@Bum_Hip oh yeah i know. But right now is an awful time to purchase a vehicle, so hopefully by next year we will get more inventory of all cars and not be at the mercy of stealerships
One of the big problems with the leaf was that Nissan, with its head firmly up its rear end, didn't actively cool the battery. Cost saving measure, as usual with Nissan. As a result, batteries failed early. And Nissan being Nissan didn't want to know anything about it. This annoyed customers. Contributing, with many other things, to Nissans terrible reputation which it has now
This right here with cost cutting savings always trickles downs to the consumer, and it shows. I was fed up with it and switched my alliance to Toyota.
Nissan needs to come out ahead on electrification if it wants to survive post Ghosn. Ghosn era Nissan's were hot trash that destroyed the company's reputation.
My 2014 leaf second hand has paid for itself in fuel, its gr8 take that big oil!
Failure? I see leafs on the road every day, they are more popular in az than tesla!
🤦🏾♂️… bro I got a lot of Toyota & Lexus news to keep up with so I don’t know if I can worry about Nissan right now…I think u be bringing enough from my two favorite models already so am good 😁
😁u might be right…because a lot of these brands just don’t make too much sense to me anyways
The Nissan Leaf would have sold better as a hybrid first. They should have sold the Leaf as a hybrid, plug-in hybrid, and EV. The hybrid version would have been much cheaper.
Yeah pretty much what kia/hyundai is doing with the niro and the kona. They offer a ice, hybrid and electric variant
Ariya needs to offer AWD on the lower trims. It's a great car, but at almost $60k, it's in the Mach-E GT price range and has 200 less horsepower
It's sad that this car was so far ahead of the curve it actually missed the market. Had to come to market 3 or 4 years after it did, it could've capitalized on the EV craze we in now.
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We should admit that Carlos Ghosn saved Nissan company by putting Nissan Leaf in production back in 2011. Let's be honest.
It's been teasing me for 10 yrs.
Do you think Maxima will outlast Leaf?
If they follow Toyotas route with the Avalon it may get the same fate. Full-size luxury sedans like the Avalon and maxima are the last of their kinds
I honestly don't know.
Nissan leaf 60kwh battery should be base battery on Aryiya with 10k lower price.
The question is, what’s going to happen to all these used batteries? I’m sure they’ll become a major environmental issues in the coming years, just like solar panels. Perhaps Toyota had more foresight than we all expected….hydrogen is the future.
Why would this kill?!? Reintroduce as a real model 3 ideally Y competitor.
Nissan has said they want to electrify the micra, so hopefully they bring that state side. My guess is that they did this in order to try to separate the leafs successor so that they can improve their image
Nissan is making a mistake discontinuing the Leaf…they’re going to be kicking themselves when Tesla releases the Model 2. All the Leaf needs is an updated battery….it’ll be one of the cheapest EV’s on the market. Just the the Honda Element and FJ Cruiser, they were ahead of their time.
I think whats happening is they are retiring the leaf name to do away with the bad press of the leaf so far. Then theyll come up with a car addressing the leafs issues that is a hatchback/small crossover
Americans don’t like small cars. Most of the EV coming out is a suv, cuv, and 4 door sedans.
It’s obvious Nissan took their R&D and investments off of Infiniti in the late 2000’s and bet everything on the Leaf which never took off. Finance lesson: Bad idea to invest in money losing products. I miss Infiniti.
E cars sucks. I am not about to spend 30k to get 100 miles. Then wait 1 hour charge?! And the batteries have cooling problems? Wtf
LEAF backwards is FAEL
Gone. But not missed by me.
Nissan should the Renault back to the US
turn it into a sentra
The Leaf is dead because it's very old technology. I think Nissan is working on a new model based around more modern battery packs that may arrived by 2024.
The Leaf is dead because used cheap battery from China CATL terrible range in the winter.
Lower range in winter is true for all EVs. The lack of liquid cooling was the biggest issue.
dude doesn't know what he is talking about...
Nissan should have switched to CCS years ago. It still will use Chademo in 2025, so it is dead.
Nissan as a whole have bad sales . When word gets around that a automaker uses crap transmission. People stay away . Reputation is everything in auto industry
Pig = Personal Instant Gratification!
I want it & I want it now!
Japanese cars take time & that’s why they are number one in the world for quality! Many of us have turned into a needy, entitled PIGs & when the product we had to have yesterday breaks down due to lack of R&D….then the toys really get thrown out of the cot!
I want, I want, I want it now. Gluttony, greed & impatience with new cars is something that needs to be looked at in my opinion.
Good things come to those who wait…..ask your Grandparents.
The final leaf has fallen..
So a base 2022 Corolla Hybrid is 24K MSRP. Nissan can 'concept' all they want...while they get crushed by Toyota & Honda, in my opinion.
Oh we have the cheapest decent ev. Ok let's get rid of that and instead sell an suv that costs 8k more
It's all about the benjamins
The Nissan what?
Leaf was from the, “let’s make the EV truly ugly so people don’t buy it phase.” But sadly Nissan has made hideous cars for years. That’s not an opinion. It’s a fact they have frumpy designs and look like rental cars while Mazda one upped them on every model. Finally the Pathfinder is a new direction I hope.
Nothing of value was lost. EVs are a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Overpriced compared to the bolt euv. Same price but with 247 miles range
Hopefully we can say goodbye to the Maxima.
But why would you want the Maxima to go away ?
@@allstarraphd9043 I think the Maxima is ugly
@@chezzyperson3339 OH, So You're Saying That A EV Maxima Is Potentially On Its Way In The Near Future ?
Nissan dropped the ball with the Leaf. The redesign needed to set a new standard to keep competitors at bay. Instead we got new styling and hardly any increase in range for the initial release.
Surprised Nissan isn't dead.
@@chezzyperson3339 Even here in Canada i am surprised they still compete. I think Mitsubishi has maybe four models to choose from...not much and quality has always been questionable.
@@chezzyperson3339 It's obviously because of Nissan that Mitsu hasn't. If Mitsu hasn't joined the RN alliance, then they would've pulled out
The Leaf... meh.
And no im not excited for that thing. Its a dork of a car. Id rather drive a Prius and that's saying something. I hate those too.
No loss, overpriced go kart