called 'controlled testing'. You dont just throw something new into a 'worse case scenario' right out of the gates, especially not when its a soft-squishy-human operating it.
Pretty much all spray is coming from the diffuser... how do they expect to fix that? My guess is redirecting the airflow to the side of the road is the best option. I guess they have to come with special rain cars they need to use when it's raining 😂
@@JuergenGDB in my vision the water would still be propelled upward but upward to the side so an opening would appear in the middle. It would probably not be good for the car tho
Yo voy por el diseño de un alerón delantero con escurridor de piso..😂😂 Ya los Americanos solucionaron el problema.. No corren.. Pero el público ya lo sabe antes de estar mojándose toda una jornada..
The fenders can increase downforce and reduce drag to compensate for using much narrower tires in rain. That is the only way to minimize the tire spray but the aero of the car contributes to spray as well.
they probably take the whole thing off with a single wheel nut, my guess is that wet tyres would be automatically equipped with these somehow, if its separate the pitstops will be longer and way more prone to mistakes, failures
Yeah, actually most of the spray is generated by the air flowing at high speed trough the venturi channel under the car. There's no way to avoid that in a ground effect car😅😅😅
Would be interesting to see what would happen if these came with full wets as standard but other cars are on normal inters or risking slicks in variable conditions and cars with the guards gain/lose in some way vs the cars on other tyres without the guards.
Fair point I'm guessing it'll still dry out just not as quickly tho, as long as it's spraying everywhere it'll dry the track wind etc will still move the water away when lifted
Wouldn't these guards put more water onto the tyre and track and increase the time it takes for the dry lines to form? I can understand the need for visibility at high speeds during wet races but not sure this is the best answer.
Not going to stop aquaplaning though. There's still the problem that if it's dry enough to not aquaplane, intermediates are quicker than wets. The wet tyre is pointless.
looked like they had 2 different styles on that same car.. right side looked like it had 'full encased' wheel covers, while the left side had semi-encased covers with room for a gun to get to the nut to remove the tire
Seeing this for the first time, my curiosity is on 3 things... Is it high enough for tire-wear not to cause the lower bits to drag the ground near the end of tire-life? How does it affect heat build-up in the tire? How is it made in relation to crashes/incidents (ie: is it fiberglass that'll shatter into mostly harmless pieces, or is this something that'll potentially cause injuries when its flying at 100km/h into the cockpit of another car?)?
I guess so, it may be a kit preinstalled on every wet wheel... But at these point due to the aerodynamic vantage of having covered wheels in a high speed track like monza may be faster run whit mid wet tire even in dry conditions
The positive side will be keeping the tires warmer but the negatives will be there will be more tyre degradation and there will be issues while Colling the breaks The most important thing is how the hell will pitstops work 🤯😆
We're still gonna have the hp logos so yeah, those will definitely clash with the red imo. I wish they just used black instead of blue for the hp sponsors. And this comes from someone whose favorite color is blue.
I won't be surprised if the tracks changed into speed racer. (Joke, Speed Racer was based on an Indy car.) Edit: I was talking about T-180 sorry for not being specific 😓
The Mach Five is in no accounts an open-wheel racer, Speed runs in a Gran Turismo series. Reports link the Mach Five to an old coupe Ford had manufactured.
Makes no difference, the tyres still pick up the same amount of water just being dispersed in different directions in the atomsphere still leaving from the rear of the car, waste of time and effort.
This is a “carbon fiber debris on the track” nightmare in the making. It’s called wheel-to-wheel racing for a reason, and when they make contact these things are going to make a huge mess
No diference in fact maybe more spray from that strange device and i saw another problem how they going to change tyres if needed? Just silly solutions they only need to see the result from Hypercar its all there LOL.
the wheel covers would eliminate turbulence and improve air flow... so the car would be too fast? They'd be forced to design less powerful engines to make the sport comply with safety
Looks silly, doesn't seem to stop spray looks worse, and how do they expect to change tyres 😂. Back to the drawn board while they're at it bring back refuelling 😁
@@Americathebeautiful49 Ah ok that makes sence - has been discussed a few times, if it could be an option to lower the crash risks due rainy conditions.
Changing tires and pre-heating them will be a problem maybe, and I think it will be useful for protection with wheel to wheel crashes, its the most common type of crash
Well surely with this mad idea if ur winning the race u be fine but everyone behind yiu will have more chance of aqua planing As it would leave more water on the track
🇵🇹Olá amigos da F1! Uns pensamentos sobre o spray quando à chuva!🤔🤔🤔 Temos que ter pensamento diferente. O problema não é o spray que os carros e pneus fazem, o problema é a água que se acumula na pista! Não haverá nenhum tipo de pára-lamas que consiga acabar ou mesmo diminuir um pouco o spray, pois este é muito intenso devido à quantidade de água que os pneus de chuva da F1 conseguem drenar do alcatrão da pista e por isso este spray é tão intenso. A solução é preparar a pista para ser asfaltada com asfalto drenante que não acumula água à superfície.!!! Daí teremos corridas com chuva novamente.!😉☺⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ O primeiro autódromo que investir em asfalto drenante na sua pista vai ser um sucesso. Aqui em Portugal, alguns quilómetros em algumas autoestrada são asfaltados com asfalto drenante e a diferença, para mais, de segurança quando chove é impressionante quer em aderência quer em visibilidade. A aplicação deste asfalto drenante deve ser muito dispendiosa pois é muito pequena a percentagem de quilómetros que tem aplicado asfalto drenante, aqui em Portugal!
Testing the Spray Guards in dry conditions fits Ferrari’s strategy
yeah to see if you get any benefit from running them
Part of the track is wet you melt 😂😂😂
They are practicing bird hitting
This is "Plan E", I repeat "Plan E" :))))))
@@sez75 F,G,H,I,J… I love you..Bom bom bom bompa bom
Sail the ship…
"Open-Wheel Racing" .
😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂lach nummer
Ultra wide, ultra long, ultra heavy, hybrid, tiny v6, drs, wheel fairings, F1 lost the plot long ago
@@ripandtearleman>F1
@@PedroHenriquePS00000 yep leman hypercars are where innovation is at.
@@ripandtearfacts
I thought 1st April had been and gone……
0:45 did he wave to you? Awesome!
2:20 Guess habit for the test drivers
@@mitchrich6 The "test driver" was Oliver Bearman.
Really giving Redbull x2010 from gran turismo vibes
I miss that car so much
Back to the drawing board.
Probably makes water disburse even harder due to it being pushed down one exit route. Doesn’t look anywhere near effective enough to carry forward
Nun fehlt nur noch eine Anhaengerkupplung
Nur für Verstappen.
5:50 aaaaand... its not working.
But euh... They threw 6 buckets of water on 20metres of track and the FIA calls that a test?!?!
Smh. 😂😂😂😂
We have been observing for many years the fact that there are imbeciles in the FIA.
That’s all they really needed to conclude plan “b” wasn’t working.
called 'controlled testing'. You dont just throw something new into a 'worse case scenario' right out of the gates, especially not when its a soft-squishy-human operating it.
The fia is going to have them race inflatable bubbles soon at this rate.
Love the F1-75
Nothing change 😂
Varryx's always ready 🙌
1:53 with Spary Guard and 2:12 without Spary Guard
good video, thanks, i don't see changes , the high spray continued, es clear, this neumatic big with contact in the floor, good test , anyway
Need to be tested in the rain, plus wonder how much drag from them?
Pretty much all spray is coming from the diffuser... how do they expect to fix that? My guess is redirecting the airflow to the side of the road is the best option.
I guess they have to come with special rain cars they need to use when it's raining 😂
But then if you're trying to pass the water, it would still affect the car right next to it, with a massive amount of PSI of water coming your way.
@@JuergenGDB in my vision the water would still be propelled upward but upward to the side so an opening would appear in the middle. It would probably not be good for the car tho
Yo voy por el diseño de un alerón delantero con escurridor de piso..😂😂
Ya los Americanos solucionaron el problema.. No corren.. Pero el público ya lo sabe antes de estar mojándose toda una jornada..
The fenders can increase downforce and reduce drag to compensate for using much narrower tires in rain. That is the only way to minimize the tire spray but the aero of the car contributes to spray as well.
How do they change tyres？
Fr😂
I can't wait for the pitstops with those covers on
How'd they change the tyres ?
they probably take the whole thing off with a single wheel nut, my guess is that wet tyres would be automatically equipped with these somehow, if its separate the pitstops will be longer and way more prone to mistakes, failures
I still demand turn signals
Wow, won't that cause more slippage as the water is being retained around the wheel?
Im confused.are they supposed to stop the spray??? Because there not working.
Yeah, actually most of the spray is generated by the air flowing at high speed trough the venturi channel under the car. There's no way to avoid that in a ground effect car😅😅😅
The idea is great but i don't think this concept has proven any good at all but they probably find some other design or solution
It can be seen that this is a stupid and not working idea. The problem is the size of the cars and tires. And the stupidity of Liberty and the FIA.
What VideoCamera have you used ?
Wow, that's a trip.
This Man deserves more attention !!!
Oramai stanno perdendo completamente il lume della ragione, facessero prima ad abolire tutta la categoria.
Why not bumpers?
Would be interesting to see what would happen if these came with full wets as standard but other cars are on normal inters or risking slicks in variable conditions and cars with the guards gain/lose in some way vs the cars on other tyres without the guards.
Great footage thanks man
Will the track still dry the same in a wet race if it can’t “spray” the water away?
Fair point I'm guessing it'll still dry out just not as quickly tho, as long as it's spraying everywhere it'll dry the track wind etc will still move the water away when lifted
“Just Say No”
Starting to look like speed racer mach5 cars now😂
You mean the T-180's (Grand Prix Cars) from the movie? Like the Mach 6
@@superxavxii421 yess you are correct aha, still crazy a movie car coming to real life
Lol exactly thought about that... hmm maybe I should rewatch the movie.
Wouldn't these guards put more water onto the tyre and track and increase the time it takes for the dry lines to form? I can understand the need for visibility at high speeds during wet races but not sure this is the best answer.
Not going to stop aquaplaning though.
There's still the problem that if it's dry enough to not aquaplane, intermediates are quicker than wets.
The wet tyre is pointless.
I thought the thumbnail was clickbait. But ok.🤷
Every day, we get closer to the Redbull X series
Which chassis will they be using here?
isn‘t the most spray, rain that gets sucked up due to downforce?
is that removable if rain stops?
how they change tires?
looked like they had 2 different styles on that same car.. right side looked like it had 'full encased' wheel covers, while the left side had semi-encased covers with room for a gun to get to the nut to remove the tire
Seeing this for the first time, my curiosity is on 3 things... Is it high enough for tire-wear not to cause the lower bits to drag the ground near the end of tire-life? How does it affect heat build-up in the tire? How is it made in relation to crashes/incidents (ie: is it fiberglass that'll shatter into mostly harmless pieces, or is this something that'll potentially cause injuries when its flying at 100km/h into the cockpit of another car?)?
I wonder how would they perform a pit stop and change tires using this thing. Do they come off with the tire, as a single piece?
I guess so, it may be a kit preinstalled on every wet wheel... But at these point due to the aerodynamic vantage of having covered wheels in a high speed track like monza may be faster run whit mid wet tire even in dry conditions
thanks for another amazing video!
Won't the guards trap the water causing the brakes to stay cool instead of reaching optimal performance temperature faster?
the Spray come from Ground Effects Cars not from Tires,
Tires is 20%, and the track is not Wet
sdtarting to look more and more like a LeMans car every year. So much for "open Wheel Racing" and F1 being the technological peak in motorsport
Just imagine wheel banging and the following carbon fibre explosion.
It looks like a kind of fender
It is!
The positive side will be keeping the tires warmer but the negatives will be there will be more tyre degradation and there will be issues while Colling the breaks
The most important thing is how the hell will pitstops work 🤯😆
its just for races that have extremely poor conditions. it's not going to be used for normal condition races.
@@elwingy Yeah I came to know after commenting that
Don’t get ahead of yourself with your hypothesis.
They clearly don’t work as intended.
So HP really fucked that bueatifull livery for the rest of the year ?
HP wanted to paint tha' whole car tha' color..Ferrari said, Yo HP..Ba Fan Gu, capiche?
We're still gonna have the hp logos so yeah, those will definitely clash with the red imo. I wish they just used black instead of blue for the hp sponsors. And this comes from someone whose favorite color is blue.
I won't be surprised if the tracks changed into speed racer.
(Joke, Speed Racer was based on an Indy car.)
Edit: I was talking about T-180 sorry for not being specific 😓
The Mach Five is in no accounts an open-wheel racer, Speed runs in a Gran Turismo series. Reports link the Mach Five to an old coupe Ford had manufactured.
@@ArthurX-eg8bc thx bro!
Makes no difference, the tyres still pick up the same amount of water just being dispersed in different directions in the atomsphere still leaving from the rear of the car, waste of time and effort.
🤔... Forza Ferrari! 😂😂😂
🏎️🏎️🏎️🇵🇱
i doubt these will do anything, aero is shooting the water up anyway, maybe it helps at least a bit
Batman, is that you?
Whats next from the FIA? Noisecancelling Guards for the cars. smh.
Ahh ok difference most noticeable is from the front tires, less upward spray with the covers.
At high speeds it looks like more water spurts out of the diffuser...
Well on our way to making the cars so safe and boring that we'll be just watching them all race on sims soon.
Won't water build up just enough to turn the F1 car into a slide
0:32 what in gods green heart is that abomination????
I didn't see much difference compared to SF24
This is a “carbon fiber debris on the track” nightmare in the making. It’s called wheel-to-wheel racing for a reason, and when they make contact these things are going to make a huge mess
May be just put a tent all over the track?
A good Ray Ban fashion design glasses & LED set on each car. Easy than that disfuntional wheel cover kit. Pilot thinking 🤔🧐😊
Why does the spray guards look worse
Everybody says "open wheel". I would prefer gettin rid of the turbulence from the wheels, instead of keep bangin my head just cause of the tradition.
But I kinda like them without the guards.
No diference in fact maybe more spray from that strange device and i saw another problem how they going to change tyres if needed? Just silly solutions they only need to see the result from Hypercar its all there LOL.
the wheel covers would eliminate turbulence and improve air flow... so the car would be too fast? They'd be forced to design less powerful engines to make the sport comply with safety
Red bull will still give them 2 seconds a lap whenever they feel like.
They testing brand new tires, and we are not allowed to see them, so they cover them.
The next changes will be the cigarette lighter and ashtray
Looks good, now you have less grip and still cant see shit so good job
Looks silly, doesn't seem to stop spray looks worse, and how do they expect to change tyres 😂.
Back to the drawn board while they're at it bring back refuelling 😁
OMG it’s F1 . We can’t have people calling them mud-guards , it’s much too common … 😂.
No difference, whatsoever 😂
Next thing they will do is have an extremely high performance engine charge batteries to power the car ........Oh wait .
look horendous 😆 imagine the wheels touching as they do in racing the amount of debris there will be
No more 2 second pits
Good luck with tire changes
Guess it´s a test construction to find out how the tires are working under certain settings and conditions.
Pay attention. It is a test to determine if they can eliminate or lessen the spray when it is raining.
@@Americathebeautiful49 Ah ok that makes sence - has been discussed a few times, if it could be an option to lower the crash risks due rainy conditions.
So like 30 sec pitstop now…
Wait 😮, there is no rain 🌧️🤷🏽
Bisogna cambiare tutti i vertici della fia f1 persone non all'altezza 😮
Changing tires and pre-heating them will be a problem maybe, and I think it will be useful for protection with wheel to wheel crashes, its the most common type of crash
Oh phew!..I was worried they were going to make F1 look ridiculous.
Wouldn’t it be a good idea to test them on a really wet track..? 🤦🏻♂️
They should go to Spa.
what's with the mud flaps? Not allowed, silly
20 sec in pits with this
Well surely with this mad idea if ur winning the race u be fine but everyone behind yiu will have more chance of aqua planing
As it would leave more water on the track
Horrible without seeing the wheels move and in the really bad wet all that water trapped in there dangerous.
Does nothing for looks, spray, wheel changers, anything really. Get Adrien on the job, now he's a free man.
🇵🇹Olá amigos da F1!
Uns pensamentos sobre o spray quando à chuva!🤔🤔🤔
Temos que ter pensamento diferente. O problema não é o spray que os carros e pneus fazem, o problema é a água que se acumula na pista!
Não haverá nenhum tipo de pára-lamas que consiga acabar ou mesmo diminuir um pouco o spray, pois este é muito intenso devido à quantidade de água que os pneus de chuva da F1 conseguem drenar do alcatrão da pista e por isso este spray é tão intenso.
A solução é preparar a pista para ser asfaltada com asfalto drenante que não acumula água à superfície.!!! Daí teremos corridas com chuva novamente.!😉☺⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
O primeiro autódromo que investir em asfalto drenante na sua pista vai ser um sucesso.
Aqui em Portugal, alguns quilómetros em algumas autoestrada são asfaltados com asfalto drenante e a diferença, para mais, de segurança quando chove é impressionante quer em aderência quer em visibilidade. A aplicação deste asfalto drenante deve ser muito dispendiosa pois é muito pequena a percentagem de quilómetros que tem aplicado asfalto drenante, aqui em Portugal!
I vote repave Spa. They get plenty of rain,
How do I stop throwing up at the sight of another idiocy from the FIA?
it need a slope in the back for better aerodynamic, that look pretty dumb
these new covers are really stupid!!
Looks like they don’t work to me