You will figure it out Brad...some people have good ideas some....well... not so much... you will figure it out! As you get more viewers you will get more opinions and experts telling you how to do things different/better. I like your change/adjustment a lot!!!
I admire both of you for your hard work and intelligence. Both seem to be hard to come by!! The bin system is by far the way to go, I grew up with it in the 80s already. Farmers use grain bins all the time!! Almost every bin has a false bottom in it to create air flow, your pallets are your aeration floor. Baffles me that people actually argue this set up!! You do you, I'll watch
Well all I know is Chris has been doing that for years and he doesn't have any of the problems of some of the people who suggested I think you're on the right track there's nothing wrong with giving it a try I think you're going to get the results you want what's probably not going to be ready to sell until next season good job well thought out 🤠✅🤠
When it comes to hand loading, turn the conveyor around, so you only have to drop wood into the conveyor and run into a dump truck or trailer. You should get about 20 full cords into that bin.
I basically do the same thing with my bins, mine are the same size. I fill them with my 12-22 and wolfe ridge 24ft conveyor. What I do is space the IBC totes out a pallets width and put a pallet between as "walls"... uses less totes that way. I throw any chunks, off cuts and unsellable pieces in the totes to weigh them down. The weight of the firewood defiantly pushes them out. Another thing to keep in mind is don't split any fresh cut green wood into the bins during the late winter/spring sap season. I've found that high sap/water content causes mold very quickly in center of the pile in the bins. Lets those logs sit for a month or so before splitting into the bins. Make sure your pile is peaked nicely and it will naturally shed water. I've found the wood dries just as well in the piles as stacked and saves so much time/labor.
Great stuff, Brad! Adding the bridge pallets should work great in that layout. You mention possible issues when getting to the bottom with wood… Perhaps adding another center bottom row of pallets between the two bridge rows would allow you to just peel back the bridge pallets as you make your way to the back, and the center double row of pallets would fit nicely between the wheels of your trailer and you could back the trailer in there with minimal effort of moving pallets (and not have to chunk wood so far). 🧐 Love what you do on your channel!
Absolutely love your idea of the IBC totes as your walls!! I built my by bins like Chris does, and the wires suck! You have just made a change for my bins this year! 👍
Gotta love hive mind thinking!! You looked at the good bad and ugly. And you came up with some pretty good solutions. Nice job. There’s so much to learn when you listen and just not talk.😊😊
I myself have bins too. I have a 40ft hay/grain elevator that I use as a conveyor to load the bins. My bins are 3 pallets wide with 4ft sides. My latest is just over 60ft long. I need to raise my conveyor to 16 to 18ft to make a cone of wood to fill the bins without having to jump in and move wood around. I just keep moving forward and add pallets as I go. Looking at your yard lay out if it were me, I'd make bins in longer row form if possible. With your shorter conveyor I'd go 1 pallet in the middle and borded with ibc totes and fill them as well as you go. Separate species in different rows. Moving forward thats how I'm doing mine. Also I haven't broke any pallets yet from that height. As far as loading from your bins just turn your conveyor around and use that. Great content stay safe. Thank you.
Great video Brad, I'm a stacker. All my wood has been stored inside in the past. Bought a load of logs for the 1st time this fall. Most of the load was oak. I have never had oak in the past. I built a bin like Chis does in his woodyard, just for the oak. I will see how it works for me. Everyone's situation is not the same, do what you believe is best for your business. Keep up the great videos.
Awesome videos. U can start with 4 rows over pallets to get ur conveyor in closer so u can stack it higher then as the pile of firewood comes out and put 2 or 3 more rows of pallets down
Thanks for the follow up video Brad. Your thought process and decisions are logical. Looking forward to seeing it in action. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hey Brad you don't need to spike the IBC totes to the ground. 😊 just fill them up with firewood they will be heavy enough for your bin.have a wonderful day sir. O this Joseph from backriver firewood products.
OK Brad, good information and clarification. I think there will be 22-29 cords of wood in that there Bin! FYI ~ got a bundle delivery today...using the Old Brad homemade bundler! HAHA! It lives! Keith aka Cowboy Joy
I'm ready to see wood in the bin. I can only speculate to problems you may or may not have as I've not done a bin before. Time will tell what does and doesn't work. Also KISS is a good rule of thumb.
Great Job Brad. Most people that buy firewood have never done firewood. You do you and what works for you. You could all was remove a few pallets if you are going to run to the back of the Bins. You might want to take a ibc tote bladder cut it in half and move it along with the conveyor to catch the debries. Love the " I got a Grapple truck" Great Job.
Can't wait to see that bin filling up. Guarantee given time that bin will dry the wood just fine. Chris in the woodyard has made a convert out of me re bins. Very good video. Cheers from HB NZ
There are always armchair fire wood experts. I think you’re right with bin size. You’re using a conveyor any smaller bin and you will spend all your time moving the conveyor. Might as well stack it if you’re doing that. Fire wood bins need to be built cheap so you’re right on using what you have. Loved the video
Hi Brad Good on the clarification on stuff !! I like your new design...it makes more sense ! A thought of mine that I hope won't come to fruition is that the grass growing though the totes and edges will be impossible to keep short enough as to Not obstruct air flow through the pallets ! Maybe the wood will dry well enough without air circulation in the pallets ! Trial and error is often the way we can improve on stuff ! Have a good day 😊
Out of curiosity....when it's in multiple huge piles, how are you going to know how much to load for a face cord, full cord, etc.? You used to stack face cords and that was easy to measure how much but just wondering how you'll know how much to load when it's in a big pile? Thanks!
Good afternoon Brad. Loosely loaded, each of those bins will hold about 5-7 cords of wood, assuming a cone of wood about 10' high. Interestingly, for each foot above that, you only add about half a cord. Seems like they should hold more, but that's how the math works out
Brad , the design is perfect ! The totes are a great idea and they will give you much better air flow. And as the largest firewood dealer in Northern Utah I can assure you that your setup will work perfectly as well as saving a ton of time ! Love your channel and work ethic . One thing I would consider is leaning a 2×4 against the outside of your totes until you build another bin on that particular side. Onward !
this reminds me of the evolution of Ohio Wood Burner - we are in the back yard stage now but in a year or so we will have your videos from a huge concrete bunker on a few acre commercial lot lol. Anyone want that bet ?
No not yet. This keeps him close to his mom and family is everything to Brad. I dont see him going that far... yet. Im only human so i could be completely wrong
I tried this a few years back. The wood in the middle never dried and the pallets rotted out. I didn't have a grapple truck so it was all load by hand, pain in the butt. Never again. It had full sun and nothing really blocking the wind. As far as how much going with 14'x16' x4' tall if you stacked it that would be 7 full cords but since your not stacking and knowing you'll be making a cone pile I'll say 10-12 cords. Wish you the best. Our wood was Maple and Ash and was freshly cut when it went into the pile. Our pile was also about 24' square.
You are a great guy. Addressing all the “concerns “. As you have said many times before, it a learning experience. And some of us like me learn from you. We are doing pallets bins as well. Trust me. Here in Texas the wood dries fine in bins. I do stack a couple cords of oaks as part as landmark advertisement. Have a good day my friend.
Brad - great video - thanks for expanding upon your bunker project ideas. And, I'm also glad you spoke some to your plan to remove the wood from the bunkers. I don't see that mentioned enough. I'm not yet scaled up to have that decision to make (still stacking), but am watching bunker users like you and Chris to learn as much as possible. I would think one advantage to the IBC tote barriers is that you could easily move them to aid in retrieval of the firewood after it ages? Thanks again, Mark
My 50x50ft x 15 ft tall campfirewood / boilerwood pile is on 10x10 pallets i get free from hot tub retailer. Piling saves alot of time. My high value species i stack separately on pallets between t posts already all on 8ft spacing for 6 yrs. i have it setup to dry 150 facecords stacked. I refill the empty spaces as i sell my wood so im always ahead. Its a rotation of selling the driest firewood 1st and stacking fresh splits to empty spots. Sold 22 month seasoned wood just today. I've got a bunch of steel corn crib panels to build my next big wood bin to keep bulk ash and oak separate. They are 8 or 10ft tall. I can bolt them together put pallets down . Fill them full and screw on steel roofing sheets on top to keep the rain off in spring thru fall when it gets sold. Many different ways to dry firewood. Hopefully I'll get my 40ft firewood kiln built this spring and not have to stack firewood in the field anymore
That looks like a good set up to me. I was going to suggest to do something to keep the totes from getting pushed away. That would be the only thing I’d say about that setup. God bless you and your family.
Hi Brad. One thing for sure with a bin this size, you'll be able to shut down the haters when it's time to load up for a delivery and you show up with your grabble truck and reach in and 3 or 4 grabbled full, your done loading. Think about it you might want more room around the bin if you have room. Let me know what you think. Lol. I like the way you think about the bin. Pallets are the answer for the bottom. Lots of air flow and the wood stays clean. I'm 70 years old and that how we piled the wood for the wood stove. We didn't have access to pallets at the time so the bottom rounds would be dirty but it would dry. They were small rounds maybe 7 inches at the most. Dead standing and not split and still would dry. Not worried about the way you think. Keep up the great work and give the grabble a thought. Untill next time.
Crazy all the you should out ther. I have changed my wood storage area many times. Trial and error. You do what will work for you. Id guess that bin would hold 30 full cord.
Love seeing the bin and the modifications. There are always such great reccomendations out there!!! Love how its gonna look, cant wait to see it in action and use and with the Fellowship coming up, you will have a great way to have a ahowcase in a much smaller footprint that it has been the last 2. Love watching the transformation and its gonna be fun to see how it all shakes out. Also thank you for the clarification on the totes, i thought they were gonna get filled but i like how you are having them as an "air flow way". Lastly love how the new opening in the pallets will let the conveyor into the pile a little more!!! My guess is 25 to 30cord a bin
All clear to me! As you have “seasoning bins” create some sort of a domed retractable weather shield” that doesn’t go to the ground but helps keep the snow and rain off the pile, while letting the wind do it’s thing! And you will be ready to go quicker than you think!
It’s a great start! You can work out any kinks as you go. Not stacking is a game (time) changer and that’s key. I don’t think I could be a TH-camr based on the comments some guys get, It would drive me crazy! As for the totes, maybe fill a few of them with bundle wood? They would be easy to cover to keep the wood dry and the bundler is easy enough to move right up to the tote?? You probably all ready have that system worked out though. I sure do like the bin idea though.
Hey Brad, i think, that the empty totes will not work. The wood that's in the bin will push them away, because the totes are not heavy enough. You should fill them with wood. the air flow will be enough even with the full totes
Good stuff Brad. You do you. Will learn as you grow. Look forward to seeing it full 12 cords if 10' tall average. Do you plan on fulling IBC totes as you go and use skidloader to dump in trailer?
That place your talking about in De has a monster pile !! I built my 1st bin a couple months ago except i used 2 pallets wide & 1 as a bridge between them like you did . My plan was to keep extending it as needed . I like the tote ideal . You could easily move them for access if needed. I think the bins are the way to go . The only issue i see is if you load with the grapple you will get the slash in your delivery .
I like your plan and modifications 👍 I think you'll eventually have to stake your IBC totes, but I could be wrong seeing as you can adjust the height of your conveyor as you go.
Brad I know you want to keep the totes empty but you could use them for sorting purposes. Just throw you bundle grade wood in the totes as you load up for deliveries. You may not fill them all but it is just a quick sorting bin.
As the wood pile gets further from the conveyor as firewood is loaded, the pallet bottoms can be removed allowing the dump trailer to be positioned closer to the remaining firewood pile.
Great explanation the idea sounds good will the ibc not move out on your back wall with no weight in them they don't weigh much...time will tell But I'm not doubting they will work and unlike some people I realize they are yours and use them how you like.. ,
Sounds great but it's not as much wood as it sounds. Let's say it's 14ftx16ft and let's say the height is to the ibcs which is around 4ft. Brings that volume up to around 900 ³ft. A thrown cord is around 180³ft-200³ft, depends on many variables. That being said even if you could make a cube that's 8ft tall it's now 1800³ft. Divide that by 200³ft and it brings it to 9 cord, which is pretty good but more than likely it'll be conical in shape. Depending on the height it's a round about number but will get you close to a number of cord inside. Good luck and I'm curious, I'm in nv so drying is never an issue, but stacking does get cumbersome.
Brad, your loading problems are not a real problem. Just move an ibc tote from where ever you want to load, walk in access from the end or right side of your fire wood bin.
I’m gonna guess that the bin will hold just short of 11 1/2 cords. As far as the nay sayers…. I rearrange my wood yard at least once a year. I look for the capacity constraints and make changes to improve the flow. There have been times it has worked and times that it doesn’t. Such is life. The process of change is what makes life interesting.
What about leaving room to get your trailer on each side of the bins? Slide the tote out, load what you need, and slide the tote back into place. Thanks.
Brad - very good explanation and I certainly see the merit in what you’re doing. I do, however, have a reservation regarding the two different levels of pallets. Unsure if that difference will come into play as you’re removing wood from the bin. Just sayin…
Hi Brad. You do you buddy. I don’t think you’re going to have mold issues. Looks like you’re going to have a lot of airflow. I’m curious of the time it will take to properly dry the wood. One other question I have is are you modifying the splitting process to separate out the slash/fines, kindling out of the finished firewood? It’s a great experiment. Thanks for taking us along for the journey.
I think that bin will hold close to 14 cords (20lx18wxx7h)/180(cord loose) =14 cord. if you manage average height of 8 ft it will be 16 cords. good job
It appears that bins like yours work very well. I have seen wood hounds near my brother's land (in Indiana) that do bins and their wood is just fine. Do you plan on putting bins back to back as they are filled? Can't wait to see you start filling the first bin. Stay safe.
My guess is 22 to 24 cords. Also curious you may of mentioned this and i missed but are you still separating your wood by type or all mixed together now?
Standard pallets are 40x48 I see a 5x5 pattern? Or thats my best gess with all that 4 letter word laying around. . round off to 16x20' 320 cubic feet per foot of depth. Thats 1.77 cords per foot using the 180 cubic rule for unstacked 16" wood. Probably call it 1.7 with the over stacked pallets. The 1st 3 foot will be 1.7x3=5.1 cords. Then mabe 11 more feet mabe more, gotta account for the lift of the pallets from the ground, and the grizzly bars hanging down. Something like another 300 cubic feet ish. I'll make my dart throw 12 +/- cords ..LOL
I believe you would have been fine before you made the change. Your too nice and I must be a prick! God bless you Brad. even though I probably need it more then you! lol
I had no idea hard wood could be cut split piled and dried in less than a year. The old timers had it all wrong. Well I’ll be damned tik tok guy will soon be in your woodyard making a video. lol.
My first concern is critters. A skunk in that setup is going to be a nightmare. Losing a cord vs losing 8 is a risk. There's no reason to not try new things but a 100% change in product storage is a risky test plot. Hopefully the change doesn't effect product. If it does you will have a huge jump on production for 2026 wood. It's going to dry in time so worse case next year not this year wood. The other thing is the first wood in will practically be the last out. I don't see a way around that in a pile so just remember when you started to know when to stop so you have a consistent product in the bin. I wouldn't expect a huge change in product you are still doing the basics of keep it off the ground and give it time.
You will figure it out Brad...some people have good ideas some....well... not so much... you will figure it out! As you get more viewers you will get more opinions and experts telling you how to do things different/better. I like your change/adjustment a lot!!!
Thanks Chris. I’m noticing that more and more lol
I admire both of you for your hard work and intelligence. Both seem to be hard to come by!!
The bin system is by far the way to go, I grew up with it in the 80s already. Farmers use grain bins all the time!! Almost every bin has a false bottom in it to create air flow, your pallets are your aeration floor. Baffles me that people actually argue this set up!!
You do you, I'll watch
I think you got the bases covered. Great ideas.
"I got this thing called a grapple truck" I love it!!
Very good follow up video
Perfect response!!
Well all I know is Chris has been doing that for years and he doesn't have any of the problems of some of the people who suggested I think you're on the right track there's nothing wrong with giving it a try I think you're going to get the results you want what's probably not going to be ready to sell until next season good job well thought out 🤠✅🤠
When it comes to hand loading, turn the conveyor around, so you only have to drop wood into the conveyor and run into a dump truck or trailer.
You should get about 20 full cords into that bin.
I basically do the same thing with my bins, mine are the same size. I fill them with my 12-22 and wolfe ridge 24ft conveyor. What I do is space the IBC totes out a pallets width and put a pallet between as "walls"... uses less totes that way. I throw any chunks, off cuts and unsellable pieces in the totes to weigh them down. The weight of the firewood defiantly pushes them out. Another thing to keep in mind is don't split any fresh cut green wood into the bins during the late winter/spring sap season. I've found that high sap/water content causes mold very quickly in center of the pile in the bins. Lets those logs sit for a month or so before splitting into the bins. Make sure your pile is peaked nicely and it will naturally shed water. I've found the wood dries just as well in the piles as stacked and saves so much time/labor.
That should work great! Let's get to splittin! 👍👍
Great stuff, Brad! Adding the bridge pallets should work great in that layout. You mention possible issues when getting to the bottom with wood… Perhaps adding another center bottom row of pallets between the two bridge rows would allow you to just peel back the bridge pallets as you make your way to the back, and the center double row of pallets would fit nicely between the wheels of your trailer and you could back the trailer in there with minimal effort of moving pallets (and not have to chunk wood so far). 🧐
Love what you do on your channel!
I like that idea!
Good design Brad. 14 cords
Absolutely love your idea of the IBC totes as your walls!! I built my by bins like Chris does, and the wires suck! You have just made a change for my bins this year! 👍
Gotta love hive mind thinking!! You looked at the good bad and ugly. And you came up with some pretty good solutions. Nice job. There’s so much to learn when you listen and just not talk.😊😊
Nice Brad!😮
I myself have bins too. I have a 40ft hay/grain elevator that I use as a conveyor to load the bins. My bins are 3 pallets wide with 4ft sides. My latest is just over 60ft long. I need to raise my conveyor to 16 to 18ft to make a cone of wood to fill the bins without having to jump in and move wood around. I just keep moving forward and add pallets as I go. Looking at your yard lay out if it were me, I'd make bins in longer row form if possible. With your shorter conveyor I'd go 1 pallet in the middle and borded with ibc totes and fill them as well as you go. Separate species in different rows. Moving forward thats how I'm doing mine. Also I haven't broke any pallets yet from that height. As far as loading from your bins just turn your conveyor around and use that.
Great content stay safe. Thank you.
Brad you could also use the conveyor to load the dump trailer when you are selling the wood. Jeff
Great video Brad, I'm a stacker. All my wood has been stored inside in the past. Bought a load of logs for the 1st time this fall. Most of the load was oak. I have never had oak in the past. I built a bin like Chis does in his woodyard, just for the oak. I will see how it works for me. Everyone's situation is not the same, do what you believe is best for your business. Keep up the great videos.
Awesome videos. U can start with 4 rows over pallets to get ur conveyor in closer so u can stack it higher then as the pile of firewood comes out and put 2 or 3 more rows of pallets down
Thanks for the follow up video Brad. Your thought process and decisions are logical. Looking forward to seeing it in action. Thanks for sharing your experience.
It's your woodyard. I say do what you want.
Hey Brad you don't need to spike the IBC totes to the ground. 😊 just fill them up with firewood they will be heavy enough for your bin.have a wonderful day sir. O this Joseph from backriver firewood products.
OK Brad, good information and clarification. I think there will be 22-29 cords of wood in that there Bin! FYI ~ got a bundle delivery today...using the Old Brad homemade bundler! HAHA! It lives! Keith aka Cowboy Joy
I'm ready to see wood in the bin. I can only speculate to problems you may or may not have as I've not done a bin before. Time will tell what does and doesn't work. Also KISS is a good rule of thumb.
Great Job Brad. Most people that buy firewood have never done firewood. You do you and what works for you. You could all was remove a few pallets if you are going to run to the back of the Bins. You might want to take a ibc tote bladder cut it in half and move it along with the conveyor to catch the debries. Love the " I got a Grapple truck" Great Job.
I love it that you’re trying new methods! Being active and dialing things in can be deeply satisfying - best of luck with this first iteration…
Great ideas Brad!
Can't wait to see that bin filling up. Guarantee given time that bin will dry the wood just fine. Chris in the woodyard has made a convert out of me re bins. Very good video. Cheers from HB NZ
There are always armchair fire wood experts. I think you’re right with bin size. You’re using a conveyor any smaller bin and you will spend all your time moving the conveyor. Might as well stack it if you’re doing that. Fire wood bins need to be built cheap so you’re right on using what you have. Loved the video
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Hey Brad , the bins are looking great. Thanks for sharing
Hi Brad
Good on the clarification on stuff !!
I like your new design...it makes more sense !
A thought of mine that I hope won't come to fruition is that the grass growing though the totes and edges will be impossible to keep short enough as to Not obstruct air flow through the pallets !
Maybe the wood will dry well enough without air circulation in the pallets !
Trial and error is often the way we can improve on stuff !
Have a good day 😊
Out of curiosity....when it's in multiple huge piles, how are you going to know how much to load for a face cord, full cord, etc.? You used to stack face cords and that was easy to measure how much but just wondering how you'll know how much to load when it's in a big pile? Thanks!
Good afternoon Brad. Loosely loaded, each of those bins will hold about 5-7 cords of wood, assuming a cone of wood about 10' high. Interestingly, for each foot above that, you only add about half a cord. Seems like they should hold more, but that's how the math works out
hi there good show , smiled threw the whole show , lots of good help . NOT ENOUGH best to all john
Brad , the design is perfect ! The totes are a great idea and they will give you much better air flow. And as the largest firewood dealer in Northern Utah I can assure you that your setup will work perfectly as well as saving a ton of time !
Love your channel and work ethic .
One thing I would consider is leaning a 2×4 against the outside of your totes until you build another bin on that particular side.
Onward !
Great video. Really like your plans. It will definitely improve your production.
this reminds me of the evolution of Ohio Wood Burner - we are in the back yard stage now but in a year or so we will have your videos from a huge concrete bunker on a few acre commercial lot lol. Anyone want that bet ?
No not yet. This keeps him close to his mom and family is everything to Brad. I dont see him going that far... yet. Im only human so i could be completely wrong
I tried this a few years back. The wood in the middle never dried and the pallets rotted out. I didn't have a grapple truck so it was all load by hand, pain in the butt. Never again. It had full sun and nothing really blocking the wind. As far as how much going with 14'x16' x4' tall if you stacked it that would be 7 full cords but since your not stacking and knowing you'll be making a cone pile I'll say 10-12 cords. Wish you the best. Our wood was Maple and Ash and was freshly cut when it went into the pile. Our pile was also about 24' square.
great idea with the pallet change, going to do that on my bins
You are a great guy.
Addressing all the “concerns “.
As you have said many times before, it a learning experience. And some of us like me learn from you.
We are doing pallets bins as well.
Trust me. Here in Texas the wood dries fine in bins.
I do stack a couple cords of oaks as part as landmark advertisement.
Have a good day my friend.
Great job, when you have the room pallets are the best way to go. Concrete will still allow water to suck up in your wood.
And you’ll have to clean any dirt off the concrete.
Looks like a nice bin for firewood.
Brad - great video - thanks for expanding upon your bunker project ideas. And, I'm also glad you spoke some to your plan to remove the wood from the bunkers. I don't see that mentioned enough. I'm not yet scaled up to have that decision to make (still stacking), but am watching bunker users like you and Chris to learn as much as possible. I would think one advantage to the IBC tote barriers is that you could easily move them to aid in retrieval of the firewood after it ages? Thanks again, Mark
My 50x50ft x 15 ft tall campfirewood / boilerwood pile is on 10x10 pallets i get free from hot tub retailer. Piling saves alot of time. My high value species i stack separately on pallets between t posts already all on 8ft spacing for 6 yrs. i have it setup to dry 150 facecords stacked. I refill the empty spaces as i sell my wood so im always ahead. Its a rotation of selling the driest firewood 1st and stacking fresh splits to empty spots. Sold 22 month seasoned wood just today. I've got a bunch of steel corn crib panels to build my next big wood bin to keep bulk ash and oak separate. They are 8 or 10ft tall. I can bolt them together put pallets down . Fill them full and screw on steel roofing sheets on top to keep the rain off in spring thru fall when it gets sold.
Many different ways to dry firewood. Hopefully I'll get my 40ft firewood kiln built this spring and not have to stack firewood in the field anymore
That looks like a good set up to me. I was going to suggest to do something to keep the totes from getting pushed away. That would be the only thing I’d say about that setup. God bless you and your family.
Wire tote to pallet.
Great improvement
with airflow (restructuring pallets).
People are adopting bins.
Mechanization.
Commercialization.
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Hi Brad. One thing for sure with a bin this size, you'll be able to shut down the haters when it's time to load up for a delivery and you show up with your grabble truck and reach in and 3 or 4 grabbled full, your done loading. Think about it you might want more room around the bin if you have room. Let me know what you think. Lol. I like the way you think about the bin. Pallets are the answer for the bottom. Lots of air flow and the wood stays clean. I'm 70 years old and that how we piled the wood for the wood stove. We didn't have access to pallets at the time so the bottom rounds would be dirty but it would dry. They were small rounds maybe 7 inches at the most. Dead standing and not split and still would dry. Not worried about the way you think. Keep up the great work and give the grabble a thought. Untill next time.
Crazy all the you should out ther. I have changed my wood storage area many times. Trial and error. You do what will work for you.
Id guess that bin would hold 30 full cord.
great video. good ideas
Curious if the bridged pallets will hold up. I’m still trying to get my first bin built!
Love seeing the bin and the modifications. There are always such great reccomendations out there!!! Love how its gonna look, cant wait to see it in action and use and with the Fellowship coming up, you will have a great way to have a ahowcase in a much smaller footprint that it has been the last 2. Love watching the transformation and its gonna be fun to see how it all shakes out. Also thank you for the clarification on the totes, i thought they were gonna get filled but i like how you are having them as an "air flow way". Lastly love how the new opening in the pallets will let the conveyor into the pile a little more!!! My guess is 25 to 30cord a bin
All clear to me! As you have “seasoning bins” create some sort of a domed retractable weather shield” that doesn’t go to the ground but helps keep the snow and rain off the pile, while letting the wind do it’s thing! And you will be ready to go quicker than you think!
Great video Brad keep up the great content my friend
It’s a great start! You can work out any kinks as you go. Not stacking is a game (time) changer and that’s key. I don’t think I could be a TH-camr based on the comments some guys get, It would drive me crazy! As for the totes, maybe fill a few of them with bundle wood? They would be easy to cover to keep the wood dry and the bundler is easy enough to move right up to the tote?? You probably all ready have that system worked out though. I sure do like the bin idea though.
Thanks Brad, appreciate your thoughts on building the pallets bin.
Hey Brad, i think, that the empty totes will not work. The wood that's in the bin will push them away, because the totes are not heavy enough. You should fill them with wood. the air flow will be enough even with the full totes
Good stuff Brad. You do you. Will learn as you grow. Look forward to seeing it full 12 cords if 10' tall average. Do you plan on fulling IBC totes as you go and use skidloader to dump in trailer?
It’ll dry just fine. You could also move ibc totes out of the way and pull/back trailer to the side of bin
Great video Brad. I say do what works for you. Im going to try the exact same thing. Stay safe
I think you have a good idea for the base of your bins,for air flow.
Very good video..I’m sure you’ll adjust to what works best for your process. Let’s face it, working with firewood ain’t for the lazy. 👍🏻👏🏻🇺🇸
That place your talking about in De has a monster pile !! I built my 1st bin a couple months ago except i used 2 pallets wide & 1 as a bridge between them like you did . My plan was to keep extending it as needed . I like the tote ideal . You could easily move them for access if needed. I think the bins are the way to go . The only issue i see is if you load with the grapple you will get the slash in your delivery .
Sounds like you got every angle covered.
I like your plan and modifications 👍 I think you'll eventually have to stake your IBC totes, but I could be wrong seeing as you can adjust the height of your conveyor as you go.
Looks like a good system. May need some tweaking along the way but it’s a good start. Gotta work with what ya got. Good stuff.
Brad I know you want to keep the totes empty but you could use them for sorting purposes. Just throw you bundle grade wood in the totes as you load up for deliveries. You may not fill them all but it is just a quick sorting bin.
Brad,congratulations on building your first bin probably about ten-twelve cords that’s my guess 😮😊❤
Do what you think works best for you
The totes that will never be up against subsequent bins can be filled
As the wood pile gets further from the conveyor as firewood is loaded, the pallet bottoms can be removed allowing the dump trailer to be positioned closer to the remaining firewood pile.
Great explanation the idea sounds good will the ibc not move out on your back wall with no weight in them they don't weigh much...time will tell
But I'm not doubting they will work and unlike some people I realize they are yours and use them how you like.. ,
Sounds great but it's not as much wood as it sounds. Let's say it's 14ftx16ft and let's say the height is to the ibcs which is around 4ft. Brings that volume up to around 900 ³ft. A thrown cord is around 180³ft-200³ft, depends on many variables. That being said even if you could make a cube that's 8ft tall it's now 1800³ft. Divide that by 200³ft and it brings it to 9 cord, which is pretty good but more than likely it'll be conical in shape. Depending on the height it's a round about number but will get you close to a number of cord inside. Good luck and I'm curious, I'm in nv so drying is never an issue, but stacking does get cumbersome.
Brad, your loading problems are not a real problem. Just move an ibc tote from where ever you want to load, walk in access from the end or right side of your fire wood bin.
You'll be fine the way you're going, just have to move the elevator to maximize your firewood storage in each bin.
I’d say 6.5 cords for bin total
Of course how much it will hold is how high the pile is...my first guess is 25 cords..
I’m gonna guess that the bin will hold just short of 11 1/2 cords.
As far as the nay sayers…. I rearrange my wood yard at least once a year. I look for the capacity constraints and make changes to improve the flow. There have been times it has worked and times that it doesn’t. Such is life. The process of change is what makes life interesting.
What about leaving room to get your trailer on each side of the bins? Slide the tote out, load what you need, and slide the tote back into place. Thanks.
Brad - very good explanation and I certainly see the merit in what you’re doing. I do, however, have a reservation regarding the two different levels of pallets. Unsure if that difference will come into play as you’re removing wood from the bin. Just sayin…
Hi Brad. You do you buddy. I don’t think you’re going to have mold issues. Looks like you’re going to have a lot of airflow. I’m curious of the time it will take to properly dry the wood.
One other question I have is are you modifying the splitting process to separate out the slash/fines, kindling out of the finished firewood?
It’s a great experiment. Thanks for taking us along for the journey.
Brad, I think your original ben layout would have worked fine!
That bin will hold what you want to put in it😂
I think that bin will hold close to 14 cords (20lx18wxx7h)/180(cord loose) =14 cord. if you manage average height of 8 ft it will be 16 cords. good job
It appears that bins like yours work very well. I have seen wood hounds near my brother's land (in Indiana) that do bins and their wood is just fine. Do you plan on putting bins back to back as they are filled? Can't wait to see you start filling the first bin. Stay safe.
Now it’s time to fill it. Peace
My guess is 22 to 24 cords. Also curious you may of mentioned this and i missed but are you still separating your wood by type or all mixed together now?
Those upper pallet are gonna flex or snap if they don't have some support
About 40 cords.
When the pile gets small, why not just pick/ pull the pallets up and back the dump trailer in closer?
That sounds like Mitsdarfer Bros. Tree Service with the big pile of wood. I drove past it yesterday and it is almost gone.
10 to 15 cord easily.
I'm thinking the Ben is going to hold close to 25 cord. And yes take care of your mama
fill totes f[rst then you will have decent barrier wood in them will dry no problem dry air in the pile will suck moister rightt out
Standard pallets are 40x48
I see a 5x5 pattern? Or thats my best gess with all that 4 letter word laying around.
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round off to 16x20' 320 cubic feet per foot of depth.
Thats 1.77 cords per foot using the 180 cubic rule for unstacked 16" wood.
Probably call it 1.7 with the over stacked pallets.
The 1st 3 foot will be 1.7x3=5.1 cords.
Then mabe 11 more feet mabe more, gotta account for the lift of the pallets from the ground, and the grizzly bars hanging down.
Something like another 300 cubic feet ish.
I'll make my dart throw 12 +/- cords ..LOL
I believe you would have been fine before you made the change. Your too nice and I must be a prick! God bless you Brad. even though I probably need it more then you! lol
I’m not sure bins are the best way to dry firewood. The air flow is not very good, around the outside yes but not on the over side.
There is a big big big problem. There is nog wood in the bin.😊
I'm gonna guess 35-40 cord
I had no idea hard wood could be cut split piled and dried in less than a year. The old timers had it all wrong. Well I’ll be damned tik tok guy will soon be in your woodyard making a video. lol.
The old timers around here always said whatever you cut and split by Easter is next falls wood. Appreciate your thoughts however they are intended
Can I buy a hat
You died good change the one,and,a,half. Floor great. But do it your way
if you watch-in the woodyard-you will see how chris is doing using the same drying method
My first concern is critters. A skunk in that setup is going to be a nightmare. Losing a cord vs losing 8 is a risk.
There's no reason to not try new things but a 100% change in product storage is a risky test plot. Hopefully the change doesn't effect product. If it does you will have a huge jump on production for 2026 wood.
It's going to dry in time so worse case next year not this year wood.
The other thing is the first wood in will practically be the last out. I don't see a way around that in a pile so just remember when you started to know when to stop so you have a consistent product in the bin.
I wouldn't expect a huge change in product you are still doing the basics of keep it off the ground and give it time.