Hi, is it possible to use the original esc space for extension to battery tray? How long would the tray be if that is possible with some material removed, like various protrusions?
Great vid mate love these trucks and for the money they are a great platform to upgrade to brushless. Add up the cost of the truck and the brushless conversion its still cheaper than most of the other trucks out there. For sure has more to give on a straight road. Wonder what it would do on 3s 😜👍
Hello! Your absolutely right, for the money you just cannot go wrong. I do owe you a slight apology mine only does 17mph from stock. I think off road it just looked quicker! As for 3s I think it would be rude not to! 👍🙋
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 definitely, just need to order a new front lower arm. Been sending it today from a skate quaterpipe, smacked the railing and ended with left lower arm broken. But going back to 3S. I used a 3S 70C CNHL 1500mah, and you really need to be careful with throttle :P stock tires loose grip. PS not sure if anyone was crazy enough, but i went with a 31T M0.6 pinion. There's a bit cogging, but this was just an experiment, while i was waiting for a 16T pinion to be delivered :P
Hey buddy hope your ok and thanks for your video just wondering would this combo be good for the arrma Vorteks Boost as I don't intend to leave it with a brushed motor for long at all and could I use the spectrum receiver it comes with or would I need to get another and what would you recommend
Hello!! I don't see any reason why not. As long as the Arrma is 1/10 1/12 scale (or smaller) I can't see it not working. If the radio gear you have has the standard plugs on the receiver it should all work together correctly, a reverse function on the throttle and steering is sometimes useful. I would also get a programming card as well to fine tune various parameters. I think there is a promo code in the description that will get you 10% off at Banggood. They do loads of combos just use one of the links in the description. 👍👋
Great Video 👍🏻 I bought die same combo by surpass, but my car is crogging extreme when i put the car on the ground.😢 also bougt die programm card and set the start power from medium to strong no changes.
@@D3faultChann3l has the old transmitter got an exponential adjustment option? Sometimes you can alter the throttle curve. So a small movement on the throttle gives 50% of the power? With that combo in mines super smooth from take off. I did put a much cheaper ESC in it and it ruined the throttle response. No cogging but a loss of power from pull off.
Great vid mate, I’ve just got one of these trucks myself and I’ve broke the body shell, does anyone know we’re to get a replacement The seller is saying ther not available yet
There's this seller on eBay that does spares for the FC610. They have new stock all the time. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275129527340?mkevt=1&mkcid=16&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Great video . You can try 3S speed run on a dry day with straight road . I hope next someone will sell a adjustable motor mount . So can change to 17T pinion gear . What's the weather like during the run ? As you said the motor is cool to touch . I live in Asia so I might need a cooling fan for the motor .
Hello! It was a cool morning so that proberbly helped. The kit comes with a little radiator which I didn't use. I would see how you get on with it first, it don't think that on 2s it gets very warm. And yes it would be rude not to try it on 3S really. 👍🙋👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556Hello . I guess I need to install cooling fan for the motor when I upgrade to brushless . Do you think 80-120A might be better in managing heat in 30°c weather running on 2s-3s ?
@@winstonhoong2134 I would see how you get on. You may be able to stick a non fan cooled rad on the motor and that's enough. I'm going to be honest the ESC was kept really cool by that fan. It's very noisy but effective! 👍👍 I will try 3S for you soon and see about temps. 👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 ouch, 20 bucks shipping to US though lol. There's a few from China on ebay and other random sites. I had a 16t 48p that was same size as the original, just 2 more teeth but it whines with it in. Thanks for the info.
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 I've got the 60amp Surpass KK ESC the same as you and the 14pt pinion I bought off you. I think it might be to do with the throttle trim. It's very sensitive about being set right. I might try a program card to increase the initial take off.
@@jamesmarkjackson1979 yes the program card might do the trick. I've only ever had a bit of cogging when I used a cheap ESC. But the surpass ones are pretty good normally. I've yet to have can issue with one. 👍
I actually like a lot the behavior of the brushed motor. A lot of torq, controllable and so far reliable. As I am planning to use mine with crawler tires for off-road and crawl, speed is more Than enough and to use stock tires at basketball field or garage and play with my kid is also enough. Speed is good but it always has a price, not only conversion but also potential more damage to parts when crashing. It's different to crash a rc at 30kmh or 50kmh.
I would agree. It does crash very well though as I did hit a tree at full pelt and nothing broke! But it's always nice to push the boundaries a bit! 👍🙋👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 do you have any idea if some parts are interchangeable with other rc brands? for example,the diffs are the same as the ones used on hbx 16889apro? spur gear and drive shafts?only ask because parts are difficult to find and if one day i decide to go brushless,at least a spur gear, some diffs and extra driveshafts i want to have since something is going to break for sure.
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 yes but even for hbx 2995 its hard to find parts and expensive when compared to other midels from the brand. if there was any other model or brand with spares available for less money would be nice,just the same way i've been making a small stock of 16889 parts because they are really cheap and since i have two and prentend to keep them for ma y years, couldnt resist the temptation.
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 i was predicting the future...arrive home from a small garden bash. 2 packs of batteries on tarmac, a little medium grass and ocadionally sand. almost at the end if second pack, a grinding noise and the car bwrely mooves rear wheels and nothing on front wheels. i believe the pinion is toasted,only hope spur gear is ok since i have spares 14t pinions, the same used on hbx 16889a pro, internal diameter slighly bigger than the 14t for the brushed version or brushless non pro.
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 do you know where i can find compatible front cvd shafts as i broke them?does the hbx 901/903 metal shaft fits this also?i cannot find nowhere..
Thx for great input! I'm curious wether you prefer this over the 901a now then this is modded?? Both before and after the 5900kv mid in the 901a. I'm looking to buy my first rc... Curious about how much of a difference the center diff does. Both when if comes to performance and durability. Cheers!
The 610 would make a great first RC. It's a bit more stable than the 901. Some people don't like the centre diff, but I think it aids traction. At the expense of a little excitement. To be honest you wouldn't be disappointed with either. 👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Thank you so much for replying 🙏 I already ordered the 901a but have been getting second thoughts after reading negative comments on it lacking a center diff and therefore breaking diffs, and also being harder to control. I can't afford to keep the 901a and buy the fc610 and mod it. But sending the 901a back comes with a return cost of ~35€ som I'm torn about what to do. I'll mostly drive in my backyard that has a undulating lawn but also some rougher areas with small roots surfacing. Apart from that there's a gravel soccer field nearby and sand pits and some bigger grass hills with maybe 2-4 inches tall grass. So it seems likely that I need to swap to bigger tyres on the 901a, and that seems to be where people are starting to get in to trouble with breaking the diffs. What's your thoughts on my situation. Cheers for being such a nice guy and your awesome channels success 🍻
@@nosreuter well so far the 901 hasn't really let me down, more like the other way around! I've broke a diff cup and a wheel. The cup was me hitting a fence post and the wheel a head on collision with a much heavier Losi truck. I've had no trouble with the diffs and I'm running a much fruiter 5800kv motor and 60a ESC (see other videos). I knackered the standard ESC by trying it on 3S (wouldn't recommend) and because of the broken wheel I've stuck a set of wider XLF wheels on and they do seem a bit better. A plus side too no centre diff is it does teach you throttle control!! 👍😄
Awesome video! Two quick question for you. So the stock ESC and receiver are 1 piece so you need to get a new receiver and ESC (you can’t use the stock radio). What size battery does it take (do you know the dimensions…. I would likely run it at 3s. Oh, one more question. Is there any adjustment in the gear box for a bigger pinion or you stuck with the stock size?
No you cant use the stock radio gear you will need to replace for separate esc and receiver. Will it take 3S? Watch this video: th-cam.com/video/8w_chmHnv-M/w-d-xo.html I believe (though ive yet to try it) the motor mount can be flipped round to accommodate a different pinion gear. Hope this helps.
Eh up! I think it would be rude not to try 3S in it. Yeah can't believe that pinion was correct, it would have been a very short video else. Do you reckon 40 then? 👍👍
This was great. Just what I was waiting for! Would the higher kv/amp surpass hobby kits work as well? Or was this kit already perfect for the size of the truck? Thanks!
I think the kit worked pretty well. It's meant for 1/10 scale RC's so with the 610 being smaller (I think it's more like 1:12 personally) it was more than sufficient. The sky it the limit really but may make the thing a little unusable. I.e. the chassis starts to become the weak link with all that extra power. Like I say in the video it went from quite a placid easy to control RC, to being a bit twitchy especially on the power. Just because your then exceeding the grip of the tyres etc. From a motor stand point you could fit a 3660 (as opposed to the 3650) in and get some extra torque. Personally it's a great kit and worked really well. And if you did want some extra go run 3S! 👍👍🙋
Banggood have provided the channel with a promo code for RC parts. Use the code and links in the description to get a bit of money off: BGRCParts8
Brushless upgrade, awesome RC and video
Hello. Thank you very much! Appreciate you stopping by! 🙋👍🙋
Mine is still to arrive but I think stock speed will be enough. Still, when motor or esc die, will try this upgrade for sure!
Hi, is it possible to use the original esc space for extension to battery tray? How long would the tray be if that is possible with some material removed, like various protrusions?
I reckon off the top of my head. You may get a 2200mAh battery out of a Wltoys in there. But like you say there would be some cutting involved.
Great vid mate love these trucks and for the money they are a great platform to upgrade to brushless. Add up the cost of the truck and the brushless conversion its still cheaper than most of the other trucks out there. For sure has more to give on a straight road. Wonder what it would do on 3s 😜👍
Hello! Your absolutely right, for the money you just cannot go wrong. I do owe you a slight apology mine only does 17mph from stock. I think off road it just looked quicker! As for 3s I think it would be rude not to! 👍🙋
I did 64km/h on 3s but it was just a bit more then half throttle. Didn't have that much space besides a small park alley :P
@@shred__dad that's not bad going! Full throttle next! 👍🙋
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 definitely, just need to order a new front lower arm. Been sending it today from a skate quaterpipe, smacked the railing and ended with left lower arm broken. But going back to 3S. I used a 3S 70C CNHL 1500mah, and you really need to be careful with throttle :P stock tires loose grip. PS not sure if anyone was crazy enough, but i went with a 31T M0.6 pinion. There's a bit cogging, but this was just an experiment, while i was waiting for a 16T pinion to be delivered :P
Hey buddy hope your ok and thanks for your video just wondering would this combo be good for the arrma Vorteks Boost as I don't intend to leave it with a brushed motor for long at all and could I use the spectrum receiver it comes with or would I need to get another and what would you recommend
Hello!! I don't see any reason why not. As long as the Arrma is 1/10 1/12 scale (or smaller) I can't see it not working. If the radio gear you have has the standard plugs on the receiver it should all work together correctly, a reverse function on the throttle and steering is sometimes useful. I would also get a programming card as well to fine tune various parameters. I think there is a promo code in the description that will get you 10% off at Banggood. They do loads of combos just use one of the links in the description. 👍👋
Great Video 👍🏻
I bought die same combo by surpass, but my car is crogging extreme when i put the car on the ground.😢 also bougt die programm card and set the start power from medium to strong no changes.
Are your battery's in good condition? Are they a good enough C rating? 👍👍
I think so, tested with new 2s 4200mah 50c and an 3s 2800mah 40c
@@D3faultChann3l mmmmmmm does sound like a possible faulty motor or esc. It should go like stink! Unless it's settings on your transmitter?
The car is really fast but needs a little push to start maybe an other transmitter it's 10years old from an brushed combo were it works normally?
@@D3faultChann3l has the old transmitter got an exponential adjustment option? Sometimes you can alter the throttle curve. So a small movement on the throttle gives 50% of the power? With that combo in mines super smooth from take off. I did put a much cheaper ESC in it and it ruined the throttle response. No cogging but a loss of power from pull off.
Great vid mate, I’ve just got one of these trucks myself and I’ve broke the body shell, does anyone know we’re to get a replacement The seller is saying ther not available yet
You can buy shells from the bezgar hm101. I think it's exactly same truck
There's this seller on eBay that does spares for the FC610. They have new stock all the time. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275129527340?mkevt=1&mkcid=16&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Thanks for taking the time to comment! 👍👍
Hay mate do you have a link for that pinion gear please
Certainly do its: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275149798260
Great video . You can try 3S speed run on a dry day with straight road . I hope next someone will sell a adjustable motor mount . So can change to 17T pinion gear . What's the weather like during the run ? As you said the motor is cool to touch . I live in Asia so I might need a cooling fan for the motor .
Hello! It was a cool morning so that proberbly helped. The kit comes with a little radiator which I didn't use. I would see how you get on with it first, it don't think that on 2s it gets very warm. And yes it would be rude not to try it on 3S really. 👍🙋👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556Hello . I guess I need to install cooling fan for the motor when I upgrade to brushless . Do you think 80-120A might be better in managing heat in 30°c weather running on 2s-3s ?
@@winstonhoong2134 I would see how you get on. You may be able to stick a non fan cooled rad on the motor and that's enough. I'm going to be honest the ESC was kept really cool by that fan. It's very noisy but effective! 👍👍 I will try 3S for you soon and see about temps. 👍
What is the pinion pitch? That ebay link doesn't say. Another video said 48, but that's too small. Last thing I need for brushless.
As far as im aware its M0.6 that seems to be a good match.
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 thank you, I'll check it out. Took the pinion to a LHS with no luck or answers.
@@stickem1974 you can get the Xinlehong ones on line. 👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 ouch, 20 bucks shipping to US though lol. There's a few from China on ebay and other random sites. I had a 16t 48p that was same size as the original, just 2 more teeth but it whines with it in. Thanks for the info.
@@stickem1974 no worries. Your welcome. 👍
I've bought the ESC and a cheap brushless motor. Did you have any issue with the motor stuttering at low speed?
Sounds like you have a bit of cogging. Is the ESC powerful enough to run the motor? Are you using standard gearing?
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 I've got the 60amp Surpass KK ESC the same as you and the 14pt pinion I bought off you. I think it might be to do with the throttle trim. It's very sensitive about being set right. I might try a program card to increase the initial take off.
@@jamesmarkjackson1979 yes the program card might do the trick. I've only ever had a bit of cogging when I used a cheap ESC. But the surpass ones are pretty good normally. I've yet to have can issue with one. 👍
olá amigo teria um link atualizado do pinhão ? obrigado.
Olá! Desculpe pela demora em responder. Você precisa de um link para o motor?
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 pinion
obrigado pela atenção@@theminiatureconstructionco4556
@GameCabal I used one of these off ebay. Item number 275924431242. 👍
great video
Thank you very much. Thanks for stopping by! 👍👍
I actually like a lot the behavior of the brushed motor. A lot of torq, controllable and so far reliable. As I am planning to use mine with crawler tires for off-road and crawl, speed is more Than enough and to use stock tires at basketball field or garage and play with my kid is also enough. Speed is good but it always has a price, not only conversion but also potential more damage to parts when crashing. It's different to crash a rc at 30kmh or 50kmh.
I would agree. It does crash very well though as I did hit a tree at full pelt and nothing broke! But it's always nice to push the boundaries a bit! 👍🙋👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 do you have any idea if some parts are interchangeable with other rc brands? for example,the diffs are the same as the ones used on hbx 16889apro? spur gear and drive shafts?only ask because parts are difficult to find and if one day i decide to go brushless,at least a spur gear, some diffs and extra driveshafts i want to have since something is going to break for sure.
@@farmoboy83 I believe it's basically a HBX 2995 (something like that). I think I mention the RC it's based on in the initial review video. 👍👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 yes but even for hbx 2995 its hard to find parts and expensive when compared to other midels from the brand. if there was any other model or brand with spares available for less money would be nice,just the same way i've been making a small stock of 16889 parts because they are really cheap and since i have two and prentend to keep them for ma y years, couldnt resist the temptation.
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 i was predicting the future...arrive home from a small garden bash. 2 packs of batteries on tarmac, a little medium grass and ocadionally sand. almost at the end if second pack, a grinding noise and the car bwrely mooves rear wheels and nothing on front wheels. i believe the pinion is toasted,only hope spur gear is ok since i have spares 14t pinions, the same used on hbx 16889a pro, internal diameter slighly bigger than the 14t for the brushed version or brushless non pro.
Hello i need help , uou use pinion 16 or 17 for 32dp or pinion 16 or 17 for dp48 iam confused , sorry for my bad langage Us 😊
Hello 👋. Don't apologies your English is ok! I used a 14T Surpass Hobby pinion part number CYW425-14T. Hope this helps! 👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 thank i need à link for model please thx no résultats for cyw425-14 , pinion 14t pitch M 06 ?
Where do you buy spares?
www.ebay.co.uk/str/rcsparesandaccessories ive seen quite a few here on this ebay shop. Hope this helps!
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 do you know where i can find compatible front cvd shafts as i broke them?does the hbx 901/903 metal shaft fits this also?i cannot find nowhere..
Thx for great input! I'm curious wether you prefer this over the 901a now then this is modded?? Both before and after the 5900kv mid in the 901a.
I'm looking to buy my first rc... Curious about how much of a difference the center diff does. Both when if comes to performance and durability. Cheers!
The 610 would make a great first RC. It's a bit more stable than the 901. Some people don't like the centre diff, but I think it aids traction. At the expense of a little excitement. To be honest you wouldn't be disappointed with either. 👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Thank you so much for replying 🙏
I already ordered the 901a but have been getting second thoughts after reading negative comments on it lacking a center diff and therefore breaking diffs, and also being harder to control. I can't afford to keep the 901a and buy the fc610 and mod it. But sending the 901a back comes with a return cost of ~35€ som I'm torn about what to do.
I'll mostly drive in my backyard that has a undulating lawn but also some rougher areas with small roots surfacing. Apart from that there's a gravel soccer field nearby and sand pits and some bigger grass hills with maybe 2-4 inches tall grass. So it seems likely that I need to swap to bigger tyres on the 901a, and that seems to be where people are starting to get in to trouble with breaking the diffs. What's your thoughts on my situation. Cheers for being such a nice guy and your awesome channels success 🍻
@@nosreuter well so far the 901 hasn't really let me down, more like the other way around! I've broke a diff cup and a wheel. The cup was me hitting a fence post and the wheel a head on collision with a much heavier Losi truck. I've had no trouble with the diffs and I'm running a much fruiter 5800kv motor and 60a ESC (see other videos). I knackered the standard ESC by trying it on 3S (wouldn't recommend) and because of the broken wheel I've stuck a set of wider XLF wheels on and they do seem a bit better. A plus side too no centre diff is it does teach you throttle control!! 👍😄
@@nosreuter and if you haven't already don't forget to like and subscribe! 😄😄
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Your thoughts are much appreciated, I'm gonna digest them over the weekend, thanks!
Awesome video!
Two quick question for you. So the stock ESC and receiver are 1 piece so you need to get a new receiver and ESC (you can’t use the stock radio).
What size battery does it take (do you know the dimensions…. I would likely run it at 3s.
Oh, one more question. Is there any adjustment in the gear box for a bigger pinion or you stuck with the stock size?
No you cant use the stock radio gear you will need to replace for separate esc and receiver. Will it take 3S? Watch this video: th-cam.com/video/8w_chmHnv-M/w-d-xo.html
I believe (though ive yet to try it) the motor mount can be flipped round to accommodate a different pinion gear. Hope this helps.
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 thanks!
@@BriansRCStuff your more than welcome! 😊👍
What's that surpass servo part number please? Thinking about replacing the stock in mine, thanks!
Unfortunately I don't know. I only have the Banggood link and the discount code in the description. 👍👍
Speed run 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 3s next my mate! 40+ mph easily! And yeh what a stroke of luck you had that pinion 🙏 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Eh up! I think it would be rude not to try 3S in it. Yeah can't believe that pinion was correct, it would have been a very short video else. Do you reckon 40 then? 👍👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Yeh mate 40+ but not on that path you were on. You'll need a road or a carpark for sure 👍🏻
@@ksrnate right then that's it. 3S here we come! 👍👍
This was great. Just what I was waiting for!
Would the higher kv/amp surpass hobby kits work as well? Or was this kit already perfect for the size of the truck? Thanks!
I think the kit worked pretty well. It's meant for 1/10 scale RC's so with the 610 being smaller (I think it's more like 1:12 personally) it was more than sufficient. The sky it the limit really but may make the thing a little unusable. I.e. the chassis starts to become the weak link with all that extra power. Like I say in the video it went from quite a placid easy to control RC, to being a bit twitchy especially on the power. Just because your then exceeding the grip of the tyres etc. From a motor stand point you could fit a 3660 (as opposed to the 3650) in and get some extra torque. Personally it's a great kit and worked really well. And if you did want some extra go run 3S! 👍👍🙋
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 you rock thanks!
@@Ryndel your more than welcome. 👍
Nice
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Thank you very much sir! 👍👍