I have been using Artix Linux XFCE openrc on multiple PCs for two years. It is for me the best distro among all those I have tested and used for twenty years.
"right out of the gate" is used four times in this video, and as a non-native English speaker it's quite funny xD Greetings from Sweden, thanks for the video! PS: Using Manjaro right now
"Right out the gate" is a sporting analogy, taken from horse racing. The starting gate restrains the horses until the start and keeps them in the same position to ensure fairness. The phrase therefore means "straight away" or "immediately".
I recently ran this for a while--- 2023- for about a month-- LOVE IT-- the ONLY Arch anything I really LIKED.. It's simple, VERY FAST and it just WORKS-- no updates messed it up like the other arch distros i've tried..
@@JMRVRGS ARTIX-- fast, simple- beautiful- and just worked-- and as i said - even the updates never messed with anything.. the only ARCH I really liked-- even better than CACHY I think.. but then- I'm not techy enough to get the FULL benefit from CACHY and it's capabilities.
For services most packages comes with an extra package. Networkmanager to run you also need networkmanager-runit. The same goes for openvpn if you got any issues with VPN. I'm really failing at explaining here :D but if you install networkmanager-openvpn there going to be an networkmanager-openvpn-runit for example, wich you need to be able to start the daemon. If I remember correctly
Being not so knowledgeable about Linux, I would have liked to know what difficulties using an alternative can cause for the user? Most apps and services might have used systemd, so would they have a hard time working with this? Would there be a learning curve if someone decides to use this? Any changes if one wants to build a software from source? Basically, what are the implications of using an alternative.
Artix is not especially intended for beginners. But this distribution can be installed very easily thanks to the ISO images offering in addition to the system various graphic environments : iso.artixlinux.org/weekly-isos.php However, there are not as many graphical tools to configure / install certain parameters (nvidia, kernel, user management etc.) as on Manjaro or Ubuntu for example. But if we don't find an answer in the wiki, we will probably find the answer on the forum: wiki.artixlinux.org/ forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,1923.0.html
@@jpwillm5252 th-cam.com/video/8E0SOWo-Gsg/w-d-xo.html check that video. When I decide to watch someone explore/demo something new/alternative, that's what I expect. I go in expecting that the demonstrator is more knowledgeable than me and I would get a lot to learn from their video. Else, I don't wanna say it, but it is a waste of time :/
Sounds like a good base for people who wants to customize Linux to how they want it down to everything. I want to switch over from Windows to Linux and I think that this with KDE Plasma seems like the best choice
Dunno if you did the leap or not, but I can say that, if it wasn't for my iPhone and me wanting to still download music instead of streaming, it's been such a bliss switching over.
I think this is the best linux distro for people that are into linux or want to get into linux. Maybe I will switch to Artix. Currently too comfortable with Manjaro GNOME.
I finally have my file systems organized and extra drives installed. So when I reinstall an operating system I still have all my project files and everything. Not as big the deal anymore. 😌
I have a goal. I want to be An Arch Linux user by the end of 2022. So far I've been through Ubuntu, Mint, Manjaro, Endeavour, Pop, and have finally found my home in Parrot OS. But my bones are itching for Arch!
If you have community and extra mirrors unmarked, on updates and upgrades, when asked about a package to choose, you must give preference to the ones from the Artix mirrors. I have made like that and my updates have run well.... ...until now ;)
@@duckmeat4674 They were basically conflicts of packages of different sources, example: world (artix) and extra (archlinux). If you choose the extra instead of world, perhaps you will have problems. That was the kind of problem that I used to face using Artix.
@@edupazz It's been a fair bit of a learning curve but I have encountered fewer bugs (so far, fingers crossed). That being said the updates can be a little slower to come out after the kernel updates, but not heaps lower. I think that may have a little more to do with it not being one of the really mainstream distros and having a smaller team working on it. Without Systemd the system boots a hell of a lot faster and seems to have less sitting in RAM all the time. So I guess it has its pros and cons. The upside side of systemd is it takes care of all of that daemon stuff by itself, the downside is that it is clunkier and slower. I'm still on the learning curve with it though.
There are various reasons. The simplest one is, some dont like Pottering the main developer. He is apperantly a difficult person to work and discuss with. But probably the main reason its not the UNIX Philosophy of multiple small programs who do one job. SystemD idea is to provide a system layer which combines init, cron, session management, dns, time etc. Then some modules were optional and are now mandatory. Another controversial topic are the binary logs and the default shipped DNS Resolver is one from google. Also an app which depends on systemd functionality is not as portable like another. This combined gives probably the default "hate". I personally do not care. Everyone should use what they want. Discussing strength and weakness of one system above another is important. Just dont start a flameware and there are always two sides to start one. :)
Actually, rumors about runit is abandoned are greatly exaggerated. It is being developed, in both Artix and Void Linux, and these two distros take slightly different ways of developing. For me, I find OpenRC more mature and flexible than runit, although I do like runit too. I use Artix OpenRC btw. Also, I suppose every Arch-based distro (as well as vanilla Arch) does everything, the choice is a matter of preference and personal tastes. What I do like in Artix, it is their friendly and warm community.
can't wait they start making their owned kernel as well since linus kernel is also becoming too bloat now...along with sysd....S6 is great base to start with , just now, every software been converted to S6...following the true UNIX philosophy code..user space is our command...not kernel space run in background...i am thinking more hybrid microkernel approach...this is just the beginning what the team i work for capable of than sleepy giant linux is now..they like to experiment many things...including redesigning linus kernel source code to run in hybrid with our code...just the way apple did theirs with freebsd...our tem leader is very ambitious with his work and will continue to push forward aggressively to fulfill his dream to make his best linux operating system that different from rest of distro...ours will not be a distro anymore...but entire operating system in the box ...just like freebsd and apple os...just say...artix linux just forked entire linux community in otherwords, he now got entire software catalog under him
Hi, nice work man, keep it up. I have a doubt, I have problems using OBS on Manjaro, my recordings are blurry, I think its about OpenGL which appers to be using OpenGL 3.2 and OBS requires OpenGL 3.3, I looked for a solution but nothing yet, any advice? I have an AMD Ryzen 3 3200G and i'm using it's integrated graphics.
@@pakistanigamer6525 There are alos good resources on the Gentoo wiki. For instance, on their KDE/Plasma page, they detail the packages you need to replace systemd functionality that plasma requires, such as elogind for logind
Hey, I've got a serious question, why not using Systemd, I mean, what would I get for using something else than Systemd? I've got a modern laptop, would my hardware benefit from it?
SystemD is bloated, and makes timers, scripts etc... A pain to handle and diagnose, not to mention journalctl. Whereas runit is so simple to diagnose startup scripts, and to make shutdown/sleep files you just stick some scripts in a folder.
Do you think there is any ADVANTAGE of this over ANTIX (Debian based of simple like this too-- although I have not seen ANTIX with KDE)... Stable?? Easy?? Advice???
well open source drivers are open source and proprietary drivers are proprietary.. that basically means you cant get the source code for proprietary drivers
Linux isn't owned by any corporation and is free and open-source software, meaning that everyone can check the source code so that no backdoors can be imposed on the system
I've been researching Linux last couple weeks 😫 I'm learning alot from your channel thanks I'm still a bit intimidated tho ... there tpm win 11 crap has me coming over to this side ... is there support for 3090 gpu?
I like it but there is no by default Pamac-Full and Settings manager like on Garuda. So I stoped using it, thats big minus from me. I figured out recently that everytime something I discovered wrong on Arch based distros or I dont like I always return to Debian Sid KDE Plasma with Experimental repository unlocked... So I have bleeding edge software.
@@sonphantrung Not everyone like to use commands and spend to much time on typing. Thats for 90s now is 2021. And for games Click and play or install steam or Lutris Edit: Going back to debian meaning everything is works for me without to much pain especialy when installing nvidia drivers, and software availability is just biger. U will mentoin Aur but sometime some script will be broke and it will lead to biger problems, aand u can find .deb file for everything. This is if some app isnt on snap or flatpak.
@@stefanml90 I guarantee you that I can update with pacman faster than you can with Pamac. And I can also guarantee that I can search and install packages more quickly, too.
With vanilla Arch, it would take 5 minutes to shutdown my laptop on a fresh install, whereas Artix OpenRC takes 10 seconds. If Artix ever dies, I would switch to Gentoo over Arch.
@@bigroddempsey4082 I am not sure why this is a problem with my laptop. Systemd based distros always have problems, but non-systemd distros work better. My friend uses a systemd based distro without problems, same with my server machine.
@Dio Titus its not trash is old stable fast, for many users that want that experience something that does not chance so much from version to version and xfce is a good choice as of that.
People generally dont like systemd? Maybe for distro hoppers and tinkerers. I think the vast majority of people getting work done while running linux don’t care.
Why KDE? The whole point of Artix is to get away from code bloat. xfce4 is still hard to beat unless you want to go full keyboard churning bunny with i3, or you prefer the eye candy of Enlightenment.
A look is all you did. Have you tried an update and a upgrade? good luck..it took me 2 hours to fix all that was wrong to get it to upgrade this is the worse Arch that I have ever come across I would rather install Arch from scratch the n to deal with all the incompatible qt5 that is on this system.
İt seems like there are lots of best arch based distros!! to attract more people to watch videos ,all youtubers use such an annoying, uncreative, header.idk but it's pretty annoying..
And this is why we can never have nice things in Linux, because 99.99% of the people complaining about systemd never actually experience anything bad from it. They just tout ideologies they don't even understand. If next week, the Linux kernel would be merged into systemd along with a game of Tetris, I still wouldn't care the same way I don't care about how my hometown's electrical grid is sep up, as long as it works. If you hate systemd, you should also hate Linux and use a "proper" microkernel, because Linux is a bloated mess if we truly believe in the everything should do less things ideology. Linux won, Hurd lost, because in the real world, people's first concern is that the damn thing should work, how pure something is might not even make it to the top ten in the real world. I used systemd, it's awesome, haters, who probably never use it directly are gonna hate.
So distros without systemd that exist now and every distro that existed before systemd was created and had different init systems, including Debian etc didn't work?
@@folksurvival It does still work, just like the old init systems, but you would be hard pressed to find people wanting to use it, because while just like the legacy init systems, it was conceived during simpler times and today you would want something more sophisticated. As a user I want my system to boot as fast as possible and you can't really do that with a simple init system. As a developer I want most distros to have the same init system and for that system to have a simple consistent APIs so that I don't waste afternoons trying to figure out how to get my stuff working with distro Xs init system.
@@ANISMIK "It does still work, just like the old init systems, but you would be hard pressed to find people wanting to use it," And that's why your comparison to DOS was so poor because many people today want to use and do use other init systems other than systemd. There are many Linux distros, BSDs, Windows and Mac on machines that do not use systemd. There are many servers running Debian, for example, which now uses systemd but there are also many servers running one of the BSDs that do not use systemd, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are currently more computers in the world running fine without systemd (even including servers) than with it. I don't know how much of DOS Windows still has "under the hood" today, if it's still significant then maybe you could argue DOS is still in popular use via Windows. "because while just like the legacy init systems, it was conceived during simpler times and today you would want something more sophisticated" UNIX, which Linux and the BSDs are heavily based on, came at least ten years before DOS but you're not arguing that UNIX and its file structure, commands, programs etc are old and out of date and that people wouldn't want anything UNIX or UNIX-like today because it is "not sophisticated enough". The knife or the wheel were conceived of during simpler times but they are just as good and useful designs and tools today as they always were and don't need to be replaced. "As a user I want my system to boot as fast as possible..." Then you'd want to use something like Runit or S6 which are faster than systemd. "...and you can't really do that with a simple init system." Why not? "As a developer I want most distros to have the same init system..." Ok but why is Red Hat's systemd the only acceptable one to have as the one and only init system (even though it's more a suite of programs - from my understanding - than an init system)? You could have campaigned for the other init systems that were standard to have remained instead of being changed for something different. "...and for that system to have a simple consistent APIs..." Then surely you'd prefer to have a simpler standard init system instead of the more complex systemd? "...so that I don't waste afternoons trying to figure out how to get my stuff working with distro Xs init system." Ok but that wouldn't have been an issue if some distros hadn't decided to break away from conventions and start implementing the new systemd in the first place.
I think problem with systemd was: some `big corps` wants everyone to use systemd... Why would anyone sane care about init system. If it's fast and secure, use it.
i use kde/plasma and i like it, so don't know what your problem is with it, but if you don't like don't use it. use what your comfortable with. have a good day.
@@mikaelrask try using some other DE or WM that doesn't use 1 GB of RAM right off the bat when you turn on your computer and see the difference for yourself.
@@davidpanic kde uses around 650 MB ram. Cold boot on my kubuntu. But kde is lighter then xfce on the lateest version of kde. But IF you want something light meaby check out tiling Windows. Using i3 here on my laptop. Using about 250-300 mb ram cold boot.
I have been using Artix Linux XFCE openrc on multiple PCs for two years.
It is for me the best distro among all those I have tested and used for twenty years.
@Ryos Ader 😎
ok, you got me. I'll give a try.
the subtle modifications they made to stock KDE are pretty slick IMO, very tasteful
Even cinnamon is amazing with their modifications.
"right out of the gate" is used four times in this video, and as a non-native English speaker it's quite funny xD
Greetings from Sweden, thanks for the video!
PS: Using Manjaro right now
When I record I repeat myself more than I should hahaha. Thanks for watching!
"Right out the gate" is a sporting analogy, taken from horse racing. The starting gate restrains the horses until the start and keeps them in the same position to ensure fairness. The phrase therefore means "straight away" or "immediately".
For anyone wondering, the Artix theme is a variation of a theme called vertex
Enjoyed the video and I love using Artix,I use the runit version on my Dell Latitude with 8gb., ram and it is very fast to boot and runs like a dream.
Arch with systemd on my laptop would take 5 minutes to shutdown, whereas with OpenRC it would take 10 seconds.
Will install it on my lappy shifting from debian to arch :)
I recently ran this for a while--- 2023- for about a month-- LOVE IT-- the ONLY Arch anything I really LIKED.. It's simple, VERY FAST and it just WORKS-- no updates messed it up like the other arch distros i've tried..
Artix or EndeavourOS?
@@JMRVRGS ARTIX-- fast, simple- beautiful- and just worked-- and as i said - even the updates never messed with anything.. the only ARCH I really liked-- even better than CACHY I think.. but then- I'm not techy enough to get the FULL benefit from CACHY and it's capabilities.
Well, I wasn't planning on trashing my Manjaro desktop, but here we go.
manjaro is cool, but the fact that they support proprietary shit inside their repo pisses me off
I'm using Endeavour Plasma and it's been running great for about ten months.
Good video. I installed the community-qt version and really liked it. It is fast and efficient. It looks very attractive too.
For services most packages comes with an extra package. Networkmanager to run you also need networkmanager-runit. The same goes for openvpn if you got any issues with VPN. I'm really failing at explaining here :D but if you install networkmanager-openvpn there going to be an networkmanager-openvpn-runit for example, wich you need to be able to start the daemon. If I remember correctly
Being not so knowledgeable about Linux, I would have liked to know what difficulties using an alternative can cause for the user? Most apps and services might have used systemd, so would they have a hard time working with this? Would there be a learning curve if someone decides to use this? Any changes if one wants to build a software from source? Basically, what are the implications of using an alternative.
Artix is not especially intended for beginners.
But this distribution can be installed very easily thanks to the ISO images offering in addition to the system various graphic environments :
iso.artixlinux.org/weekly-isos.php
However, there are not as many graphical tools to configure / install certain parameters (nvidia, kernel, user management etc.) as on Manjaro or Ubuntu for example.
But if we don't find an answer in the wiki, we will probably find the answer on the forum:
wiki.artixlinux.org/
forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,1923.0.html
@@jpwillm5252 th-cam.com/video/8E0SOWo-Gsg/w-d-xo.html
check that video. When I decide to watch someone explore/demo something new/alternative, that's what I expect. I go in expecting that the demonstrator is more knowledgeable than me and I would get a lot to learn from their video. Else, I don't wanna say it, but it is a waste of time :/
Sounds like a good base for people who wants to customize Linux to how they want it down to everything. I want to switch over from Windows to Linux and I think that this with KDE Plasma seems like the best choice
Are you still on Artix? How about Artix compares to EndeavourOS, any opinions?
Dunno if you did the leap or not, but I can say that, if it wasn't for my iPhone and me wanting to still download music instead of streaming, it's been such a bliss switching over.
OH man I love artix-runit.
difference between open source and properly drivers?
@@wixlogo one is open, the other is closed...
Been using arco linux for a bit, but i think i might give Artix a shot.
Why is it wonderful that vlc is not installed and mpv is installed?
Because mpv is much simpler than vlc
I think this is the best linux distro for people that are into linux or want to get into linux. Maybe I will switch to Artix. Currently too comfortable with Manjaro GNOME.
Finally @TechHut you make these videos other than vm
I finally have my file systems organized and extra drives installed. So when I reinstall an operating system I still have all my project files and everything. Not as big the deal anymore. 😌
Review new version of archcraft, now includes Calamaras
Yes archcraft now has Calamaris installer it's really helpful.
Archcraft is very minimal. Great distro.
Where is the explanation of what arch linux is or a background video of the different linuxes
I have a goal. I want to be An Arch Linux user by the end of 2022.
So far I've been through Ubuntu, Mint, Manjaro, Endeavour, Pop, and have finally found my home in Parrot OS.
But my bones are itching for Arch!
I'm on guix now but I remember s6 booting up in a second in a vm with 2 threads and 4 gigs ram. Display managers take 10plus seconds tho
very nice, I think I'll instal this distro with runit and gnome 3 on my job's laptop
Coming back to it now all these months later...
how is it?
I'm very interested in the alternative init systems. Runit is popular because macos uses it. Ok.
I don't think macOS uses it, it can however be used in macOS
macOS uses launchd init system, not runit
Still using Manjaro. It must be close to a year now. I am however looking for something new to try on a 2nd PC.
difference between open source and properly drivers
Have you set firewall in manjaro?
@@wixlogo sudo pacman -S gufw
Thanks I will try it 🙂
After each update it gave me a different problem: installed, tested and deleted.
If you have community and extra mirrors unmarked, on updates and upgrades, when asked about a package to choose, you must give preference to the ones from the Artix mirrors. I have made like that and my updates have run well....
...until now ;)
So you're not going to tell us any of these problems?
@@duckmeat4674 They were basically conflicts of packages of different sources, example: world (artix) and extra (archlinux). If you choose the extra instead of world, perhaps you will have problems. That was the kind of problem that I used to face using Artix.
So after almost a year (or whenever you removed it) what are your updated thoughts?
I will keep using Arch, I guess 🤷♂️
😊
What's your daily driver distro currently?
Artix and bspwm is minimal nice! 👌
6:47 whats wrong with vlc??
Updates on this one? I've been using it and I'm keen to hear about other people's experiences with it as well.
How is it going for you? Does it worth to abandon systemd or nah?
@@edupazz It's been a fair bit of a learning curve but I have encountered fewer bugs (so far, fingers crossed). That being said the updates can be a little slower to come out after the kernel updates, but not heaps lower. I think that may have a little more to do with it not being one of the really mainstream distros and having a smaller team working on it. Without Systemd the system boots a hell of a lot faster and seems to have less sitting in RAM all the time. So I guess it has its pros and cons. The upside side of systemd is it takes care of all of that daemon stuff by itself, the downside is that it is clunkier and slower. I'm still on the learning curve with it though.
@@nemonada3501 hum... Interesting. Thanks!
Can anyone explain why some people hate Systemd? I'm thinking of switching to Artix and I have no problem with Arch (and its systemd) so far.
There are various reasons. The simplest one is, some dont like Pottering the main developer. He is apperantly a difficult person to work and discuss with. But probably the main reason its not the UNIX Philosophy of multiple small programs who do one job. SystemD idea is to provide a system layer which combines init, cron, session management, dns, time etc. Then some modules were optional and are now mandatory. Another controversial topic are the binary logs and the default shipped DNS Resolver is one from google. Also an app which depends on systemd functionality is not as portable like another. This combined gives probably the default "hate".
I personally do not care. Everyone should use what they want. Discussing strength and weakness of one system above another is important. Just dont start a flameware and there are always two sides to start one. :)
@@RC2225 aah yes Pottering, that guy also did not like Stallman right?
@@RC2225 ah yes. The google DNS. I saw that on a website comparing systemd with OpenRC
Becuz it's like 3d printed chicken nuggets and mnra.....new and....new. Wayland will likely result in mass suicides.;-)
runit is abandoned s6 is the successor and faster
as for Arch based distros Arco does everything
Actually, rumors about runit is abandoned are greatly exaggerated. It is being developed, in both Artix and Void Linux, and these two distros take slightly different ways of developing. For me, I find OpenRC more mature and flexible than runit, although I do like runit too. I use Artix OpenRC btw. Also, I suppose every Arch-based distro (as well as vanilla Arch) does everything, the choice is a matter of preference and personal tastes. What I do like in Artix, it is their friendly and warm community.
I use runit, it is still being develloped :).
Why systemd is used in most linux distros if there are better options?
The same reason most people still use Windows 10 despite Linux being the better option for the majority of them
how about trying something different like NixOS ?
I just read about it and it sounds really interesting.
Garuda Plasma (Barebones) is the same minimal concept
What init system are you using, bro? I tried installing Artix lately but the base uses s6 now. I prefer openrc more than s6.
Base system is available in all init systems supported, open-rc, runit, S6, and suite66
can't wait they start making their owned kernel as well since linus kernel is also becoming too bloat now...along with sysd....S6 is great base to start with , just now, every software been converted to S6...following the true UNIX philosophy code..user space is our command...not kernel space run in background...i am thinking more hybrid microkernel approach...this is just the beginning what the team i work for capable of than sleepy giant linux is now..they like to experiment many things...including redesigning linus kernel source code to run in hybrid with our code...just the way apple did theirs with freebsd...our tem leader is very ambitious with his work and will continue to push forward aggressively to fulfill his dream to make his best linux operating system that different from rest of distro...ours will not be a distro anymore...but entire operating system in the box ...just like freebsd and apple os...just say...artix linux just forked entire linux community in otherwords, he now got entire software catalog under him
What's the issue with VLC?
i will still keep using Arch.so many distros, if you try all of these, it costs you so much time. so just one deep is ok.
This seems cool. I'll check this out. (Manjaro hates me for some reason.)
Hi, nice work man, keep it up. I have a doubt, I have problems using OBS on Manjaro, my recordings are blurry, I think its about OpenGL which appers to be using OpenGL 3.2 and OBS requires OpenGL 3.3, I looked for a solution but nothing yet, any advice?
I have an AMD Ryzen 3 3200G and i'm using it's integrated graphics.
I use Simplestreamrecorder on Artix: simple and efficient.
openrc was orginally a netbsd project, but i guess they dropped it and gentoo took it over
Seems more minimal than manjaro, which should be good for people that like that but that's what endeavour is for... Still a solid option tho.
Endeavor is shit for nvidia, for the rest is ok.
Work with gnome?
Not really. It can but gnome relies heavily on systemd
Why would pia not work?
I dont think runit is responsible for networking
Service can be problem , But on artix forum there are some threads which can help to convert systemd services to other init system services
@@pakistanigamer6525
There are alos good resources on the Gentoo wiki. For instance, on their KDE/Plasma page, they detail the packages you need to replace systemd functionality that plasma requires, such as elogind for logind
Hey, I've got a serious question, why not using Systemd, I mean, what would I get for using something else than Systemd? I've got a modern laptop, would my hardware benefit from it?
SystemD is bloated, and makes timers, scripts etc... A pain to handle and diagnose, not to mention journalctl. Whereas runit is so simple to diagnose startup scripts, and to make shutdown/sleep files you just stick some scripts in a folder.
@@duckmeat4674 The result: 2 less seconds of boot time, well within the margin of error.
Performance penalty, being the cooler than 95% linux user
I wouldn't say that Artix is the best Arch-based distro because most programmes won't run on it due to the lack of Systemd.
what programmes are that?
sudo pacman -S artix-archlinux-support. You should be fine if you don't have 5000 aur packages
This is completely false.
@@kekagCan you tell me why? I wanna learn about other's point-of-view. :)
@@notyoutube8128 Feel free to give examples of programs that are unable to run without systemd. I haven't come across one.
Do you think there is any ADVANTAGE of this over ANTIX (Debian based of simple like this too-- although I have not seen ANTIX with KDE)... Stable?? Easy?? Advice???
Antix is a thing ??
@@Eternal-ReTuning It is a separate distro- which MX is based on....and MX is GREAT.
Did the VPN run on this in the end?
difference between open source and properly drivers?
well open source drivers are open source and proprietary drivers are proprietary..
that basically means you cant get the source code for proprietary drivers
@@user-hx7dc9uz6s i think they asked relative to the lack of systemd
is linux selling data like windows ?
Linux isn't owned by any corporation and is free and open-source software, meaning that everyone can check the source code so that no backdoors can be imposed on the system
Looks like Windows 10 and I love it. Gonna give it a try
I've been researching Linux last couple weeks 😫 I'm learning alot from your channel thanks I'm still a bit intimidated tho ... there tpm win 11 crap has me coming over to this side ... is there support for 3090 gpu?
yes, easily :)
I like it but there is no by default Pamac-Full and Settings manager like on Garuda. So I stoped using it, thats big minus from me. I figured out recently that everytime something I discovered wrong on Arch based distros or I dont like I always return to Debian Sid KDE Plasma with Experimental repository unlocked... So I have bleeding edge software.
But for me, it's a plus sign, since pacman is very easy to use, and the terminal commands are very easy though
@@sonphantrung Not everyone like to use commands and spend to much time on typing. Thats for 90s now is 2021. And for games Click and play or install steam or Lutris
Edit: Going back to debian meaning everything is works for me without to much pain especialy when installing nvidia drivers, and software availability is just biger. U will mentoin Aur but sometime some script will be broke and it will lead to biger problems, aand u can find .deb file for everything. This is if some app isnt on snap or flatpak.
@@stefanml90 I guarantee you that I can update with pacman faster than you can with Pamac. And I can also guarantee that I can search and install packages more quickly, too.
👍🏾👍🏾
Actually, even monolithic linux core doesn't comply the linux philosophy.
Ok cool. Downloaded it. Gonna try it today... Let's see if it works for my old pc. Nothing is working as it has a nvidia 7025/ nforce 630a. 😐😐
Artix is only intended for x86_64 processors.
What processor do you have?
lscpu
Personally I see no reason of using Artix, compared to standard Arch you will only gain a very slight performance increase by a few MB of RAM
I used Arch and distro base Arch because AUR,it's very useful for me. Another reason is rolling release,my system always up-to-date
A few MB of RAM can be important if you have a crappy/old computer.
The plus side is that there are already isos pre-made so the installation is easier.
Personally, I see no reason to use arch compared to standard Artix, you lose slight performance by a few mb of ram.
@@duckmeat4674 not a few mb ram when we compare Arch to window 10,when I start window it always take 3GB of ram ?? hell window
With vanilla Arch, it would take 5 minutes to shutdown my laptop on a fresh install, whereas Artix OpenRC takes 10 seconds. If Artix ever dies, I would switch to Gentoo over Arch.
how old is your laptop?
@@AuroraAce. My laptop is 1 year old. It has 8 GB, intel i3 gen 10. 256 of SSD space.
@@coolwin7710 weird my system takes 30 seconds at most with similar specs
Then your rig is tore tf up. Nothing should EVER take that long to shutdown with hardware like that, even Windows.
@@bigroddempsey4082 I am not sure why this is a problem with my laptop. Systemd based distros always have problems, but non-systemd distros work better. My friend uses a systemd based distro without problems, same with my server machine.
Garuda Linux seems so... Bollywood... 😁
and btw, I use EndeavourOS - Sway edition...
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Why KDE? Why not XFCE? XFCE better than other DE for me.
@Dio Titus For example?
@Dio Titus its not trash is old stable fast, for many users that want that experience something that does not chance so much from version to version and xfce is a good choice as of that.
Then just install it yourself, it's just showing a setup ..
I3gaps is better and good for your eye😎
ELPS for this version is very unstable...
Configuring apps to work with the different init systems is annoying; like mullvad vpn
Bro,Plz Guide Us,How To Hackintosh Desktop&Laptop?, plz make Tutorial Video
Thz You......
Already plenty of guides out there for hackintoshes
In the description "sytstemd" lmao
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i run arcolinux on my 13 years old pc and it runs fast and smooth than artix runit.
Having experience with both....I highly doubt that.
People generally dont like systemd? Maybe for distro hoppers and tinkerers. I think the vast majority of people getting work done while running linux don’t care.
In general I also do not care.
I hate systemd, all my homies hate systemd
Why KDE? The whole point of Artix is to get away from code bloat. xfce4 is still hard to beat unless you want to go full keyboard churning bunny with i3, or you prefer the eye candy of Enlightenment.
A look is all you did. Have you tried an update and a upgrade? good luck..it took me 2 hours to fix all that was wrong to get it to upgrade this is the worse Arch that I have ever come across I would rather install Arch from scratch the n to deal with all the incompatible qt5 that is on this system.
I think the systemd hate is overhyped
Systemd was NSA sponsored to RH
Systemd sucks thats why people don't like it. It's like running Linux on a Windows 98 base.
6 second extra boot time wow this is game changer bruh
soystemd
İt seems like there are lots of best arch based distros!! to attract more people to watch videos ,all youtubers use such an annoying, uncreative, header.idk but it's pretty annoying..
I'm sorry you clicked on the video 😅
@@TechHut yes because i like your content even without such TH-cam tricks.
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The only different is systemd-free... that's all.... i'll keep on Arch.
Yes? That's the point of it
And this is why we can never have nice things in Linux, because 99.99% of the people complaining about systemd never actually experience anything bad from it. They just tout ideologies they don't even understand.
If next week, the Linux kernel would be merged into systemd along with a game of Tetris, I still wouldn't care the same way I don't care about how my hometown's electrical grid is sep up, as long as it works.
If you hate systemd, you should also hate Linux and use a "proper" microkernel, because Linux is a bloated mess if we truly believe in the everything should do less things ideology. Linux won, Hurd lost, because in the real world, people's first concern is that the damn thing should work, how pure something is might not even make it to the top ten in the real world.
I used systemd, it's awesome, haters, who probably never use it directly are gonna hate.
So distros without systemd that exist now and every distro that existed before systemd was created and had different init systems, including Debian etc didn't work?
@@folksurvival Does DOS not still work?
@@ANISMIK I don't know but I assume it does.
@@folksurvival It does still work, just like the old init systems, but you would be hard pressed to find people wanting to use it, because while just like the legacy init systems, it was conceived during simpler times and today you would want something more sophisticated.
As a user I want my system to boot as fast as possible and you can't really do that with a simple init system.
As a developer I want most distros to have the same init system and for that system to have a simple consistent APIs so that I don't waste afternoons trying to figure out how to get my stuff working with distro Xs init system.
@@ANISMIK "It does still work, just like the old init systems, but you would be hard pressed to find people wanting to use it,"
And that's why your comparison to DOS was so poor because many people today want to use and do use other init systems other than systemd. There are many Linux distros, BSDs, Windows and Mac on machines that do not use systemd. There are many servers running Debian, for example, which now uses systemd but there are also many servers running one of the BSDs that do not use systemd, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are currently more computers in the world running fine without systemd (even including servers) than with it. I don't know how much of DOS Windows still has "under the hood" today, if it's still significant then maybe you could argue DOS is still in popular use via Windows.
"because while just like the legacy init systems, it was conceived during simpler times and today you would want something more sophisticated"
UNIX, which Linux and the BSDs are heavily based on, came at least ten years before DOS but you're not arguing that UNIX and its file structure, commands, programs etc are old and out of date and that people wouldn't want anything UNIX or UNIX-like today because it is "not sophisticated enough". The knife or the wheel were conceived of during simpler times but they are just as good and useful designs and tools today as they always were and don't need to be replaced.
"As a user I want my system to boot as fast as possible..."
Then you'd want to use something like Runit or S6 which are faster than systemd.
"...and you can't really do that with a simple init system."
Why not?
"As a developer I want most distros to have the same init system..."
Ok but why is Red Hat's systemd the only acceptable one to have as the one and only init system (even though it's more a suite of programs - from my understanding - than an init system)?
You could have campaigned for the other init systems that were standard to have remained instead of being changed for something different.
"...and for that system to have a simple consistent APIs..."
Then surely you'd prefer to have a simpler standard init system instead of the more complex systemd?
"...so that I don't waste afternoons trying to figure out how to get my stuff working with distro Xs init system."
Ok but that wouldn't have been an issue if some distros hadn't decided to break away from conventions and start implementing the new systemd in the first place.
"people generally do not like systemd" is blatantly wrong. It's a small but loud minority of people who don't like systemd.
I use Arch Linux
I think problem with systemd was: some `big corps` wants everyone to use systemd...
Why would anyone sane care about init system. If it's fast and secure, use it.
Because other init systems work better
Hahahaha KDE. Why would anyone willingly use that piece of crap...
Fair question.I have no answer
i use kde/plasma and i like it, so don't know what your problem is with it, but if you don't like don't use it. use what your comfortable with. have a good day.
@@mikaelrask try using some other DE or WM that doesn't use 1 GB of RAM right off the bat when you turn on your computer and see the difference for yourself.
@@davidpanic kde uses around 650 MB ram. Cold boot on my kubuntu. But kde is lighter then xfce on the lateest version of kde. But IF you want something light meaby check out tiling Windows. Using i3 here on my laptop. Using about 250-300 mb ram cold boot.
Which DE/WM are you using?