Interesting tutorial. One thing I would say is that you need to be careful of where in the chain you put the correction LUT. I'm less familiar with how the effects layers work in FCP these days, but generally you want the correction LUT at the end of the chain. If you perform the colour corrections after the LUT, then you are working with reduced data. So, for example, if you have a blown out sky after the LUT is applied, that sky is pretty much baked in if you do corrections after the LUT in the colour correction chain. However, if you have the colour correction processed before the LUT, you have access to the full log data. This is particularly important if people use DaVinci Resolve. Lastly, you don't have to use a correction LUT. Log footage can be graded perfectly well without one. Lastly, lastly, I find that the Action 5 still looks overly sharp even with a -2 texture setting. I noticed that your footage definitely looks like it has had some extra softening applied, almost like some sort of Pro Mist filter?
Man editing filts and LUTS are so subjectuve. I personally hate the way you edit your video as i prefer a brighter scene but the beautiful thing about this camera is that you can change all this in post and edit it to your own liking. Grest video overall
Good video but isn`t the footage pretty dark? I can see it`s not filmed on a sunny day, but all the same. Are you keeping the ISO low because the noise will be quite prevalent?
Love your channel, Sam. You mention that this camera is the first camera that can produce cinematic results and arguing that it due to the option to shoot in 10-bit D-log M. Well, so does the Osmo Action 4 as well.
Not just 10-bit D-Log M, the OA4 also does it in 150Mbps instead of 100Mbps like on the OA5 Pro. With that said i don't think you would be able to see any actual difference between the two because of that.
@@LiamMarskog that’s interesting, didn’t know about the bitrate differences. Any way to actually identify the bitrate? I miss the advanced setting options on the Gopro Hero 12 where among others the bitrate could be set manually. However the image quality at D-log M 10-bit and both sharpness and noise reduction set to -2 is in my opinion really good and comparable to GP12 shot at 150Mbps (immensely much better rendition of details compared to auto settings!).
@@oisteinthomassen There is no way to see or manipulate the bitrate in either the OA4 or the OA5 Pro. Also it's not CBR but VBR so the bitrate will change depending on the situation which means the bitrate will most likely be similar if not the same a lot of the time even though the OA4 has a higher maximum bitrate. I believe it's the same on the GP12, you can set the maximum bitrate but it's still not CBR but VBR so it will change. CBR = Constant Bitrate, VBR = Variable Bitrate. I absolutely agree, the IQ is better on the OA4 compared to the GP12. It's also still better than the GP13 which ofc still uses the same sensor as the GP12 and they didn't really do anything about IQ at all in that camera. They just introduced (basically stole) the magnetic mount from DJI and improved it a little plus really improved lens filters. Other than that it's about the same except for some higher frame rates which aren't all that useful. DJI still has them beat when it comes to sheer IQ in both OA4 and the OA5 Pro. Like i said earlier i cannot see a IQ difference between the OA4 and 5 Pro that could be attributed to the lower bitrate. As the OA5 has much much better processing there's reason to believe stuff like HDR and ofc the possibility of no pixel binning whatsoever (full sensor readout) could increase IQ meaning no visual difference. Could also be that as both cameras use VBR the bitrate is most of the time similar if not the same which is why there's no real visual difference between the two IQ wise.
I believe it is already confirmed that the next firmware for the OA5 will allow higher bitrate and fix any issues everyone has had with that. So! Just hang in there.
@@HeyEllwood I have not seen any official statement whatsoever from DJI about allowing for higher bitrates in the OA5 Pro but it would make sense. As for fixing issues people has had like the halo-effect around objects in normal color mode from the bad HDR implementation i'm sure they will fix that in firmware. Quite surprised that issue was allowed to not be fixed before release though.
Thank you for the video i got a 4 in the mail box and your video is just what I'm looking for! Even if you are sponsored by DJI i appreciate your view on the footage
Hey First timer on your channel. i just purchased a DJI Action 5 Pro. I was very impressed the way you made the footage look. Thank you for this video. I just have one question, you said you use Gamut LUTS as style luts. which one of the LUT packs use purchased for the OA5 PRO?
Pretty awesome isn’t it! Always enjoy your videos 👍 Working on one, but need a bit better weather for the FPV bit (& a mount to arrive for the drone tomorrow) 😅
Great video. Please could you let me know if you can take a photo while video is being recorded? I don't have a mobile phone or a camera, if you were me would you bye this camera to take videos and photos on holiday?
Try doubling the shutter speed again. So if you’re running 30fps at 1/60th try switching to 1/120. Gives the sensor just a little more info and it will help the micro stutters while still having motion blur.
Hi man , can you give me a tip or suggestion actually i bought osmo 5 pro and whenever i see output is bad its blurry so idk what happened with my camara.!
Aloha~i just got my action5, switched over from many years of experiences w/gp9,10,12...after first video recording in outdoor sunny sky my video is too dark...i have chekced the setting but not sure what am i doing wrong? thx.
Great video, Sam! I recently tried a similar setup with my new DJI Osmo Action 5 using an ND8 filter, shooting at 4K24fps with a shutter speed of 1/50, and RockSteady/RockSteady+ enabled. Unfortunately, I ran into an issue where the footage had a noticeable shakiness or flickering, but the problem disappeared when I turned off stabilisation. Have you ever noticed a similar issue with these settings?
Electronic stabilization absolutely needs high (i.e., short) shutter speeds. So the best way to use it - as an action camera - is to shoot at 60p, with high shutter speeds = without ND filters (and forget about "cinematic" B$. ) 24 fps is the worst frame rate for an action camera. Actually, it is terrible for any content to be watched on a 60 fps monitor.
Hey @komandagleby_GB! Thanks for the reply :) I just heard back from DJI support, and yeah, they confirmed what you said! stabilisation doesn’t work well with those settings. It kinda sucks seeing so many TH-camrs claim that it does work, when clearly it doesn’t...
what settings do you recommend on my action 5 for recording pickleball games indoors with good lighting. looking to upload matches onto youtube thank you !
Capcut is ur best bet. Free option is great and paid option isn’t too expensive either. Excellent for basic color grading especially u wanna practice with LUTs
Hi Sam, just find this while I was searching and looking for any comments about the latest Osmo Action 5 Pro. was wondering if you have experienced any overheating problem? I got overheating warning after just 25 minutes testing. Thanks.
Great vid! I'm going back and forth on purchasing this camera. I have my S5ii and a new S9 on the way, but looking for something for POV and other fun shots. Debating between this and the Insta360 3s. Would love your thoughts
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I've got the osmo action 3 when riding my motorbike over 1000miles with the 3 and I love it. I have several episodes on my channel. I'm still thinking why I should upgrade to 5pro
Hi I’m from UK and need help…. I’ve just bought this from an Osmo 1 (so know the product). I’ve been filming a few things and then when downloaded to PC (iMac) the footage is jumpy and not continuous. Sound isn’t, tried internal and external on 4k and both seem to provide the same footage. Is this faulty or I’m I stupid and doing something wrong which I’d be shocked at.. tried all sorts! Many thanks if you can help explain
You can never get truly cinematic footage following the rules because of the digital stabilization. You need a mechanical gimbal. You can get cinematic footage if the action cam is not moving, though.
I get the feeling that you use too much halo blur or similar. It is so exaggerated that it looks like the optics are dirty instead of giving the feeling of nostalgic.
Waiting for DJI to address the very low bitrate with a firmware update before considering the AC5. 100 Mbps MAX is terrible, considering more popular resolutions and framerate combinations are closer to half that. The hardware aspects are great, but DJI went very conservative with the software.
God I regret buying this camera so much right now. It does so incredibly bad with movement. The processing is way too much. I can’t believe how DJI got this so wrong. My hero 8 took better video.
269 / 5.000 You say that after watching a video? Oh man, maybe you should just form your own opinion. I've heard that filming with a camera helps. Just give it a try. Otherwise, eBay will help if you can't manage to use the Action 5 properly.
![Cinematic Settings & Moves with an Action Camera [DJI Osmo Action 5 Pro]](/img/n.gif)
This is literally the video i was hoping to find when i decided to open youtube
Thanks Brother...great video - Beautiful vivid colors - Merry Christmas
Interesting tutorial. One thing I would say is that you need to be careful of where in the chain you put the correction LUT. I'm less familiar with how the effects layers work in FCP these days, but generally you want the correction LUT at the end of the chain. If you perform the colour corrections after the LUT, then you are working with reduced data. So, for example, if you have a blown out sky after the LUT is applied, that sky is pretty much baked in if you do corrections after the LUT in the colour correction chain. However, if you have the colour correction processed before the LUT, you have access to the full log data. This is particularly important if people use DaVinci Resolve. Lastly, you don't have to use a correction LUT. Log footage can be graded perfectly well without one. Lastly, lastly, I find that the Action 5 still looks overly sharp even with a -2 texture setting. I noticed that your footage definitely looks like it has had some extra softening applied, almost like some sort of Pro Mist filter?
Man editing filts and LUTS are so subjectuve. I personally hate the way you edit your video as i prefer a brighter scene but the beautiful thing about this camera is that you can change all this in post and edit it to your own liking. Grest video overall
Great Video - Great Tutorial for the Camera ! Thanks for showing us this Video … Thumbs up 👍
Thanks, Sam! Just bought it yesterday for a gig tomorrow! Awesome tips!
What's the editing program you're using on pc?
yes this video was awesome greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
I LOVE the way the 4 footage is out of the box how do you set 5 to do same?
Good video but isn`t the footage pretty dark? I can see it`s not filmed on a sunny day, but all the same. Are you keeping the ISO low because the noise will be quite prevalent?
Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
Very interesting, I really like the more movie like style from time to time
The Action4 also has DLogM 10bit and it even has higher bitrate recording :)
Yes, he was so surprised about 10 bit d log mode.
Kesimpulan apakah harus beli ao4 atau ao5
Great tips ! Thx Sam
incredible vid thank you!!
Thanks for the video ! What desktop software are you using ?
Any recommendations for golf videos by the way ?
Love your channel, Sam. You mention that this camera is the first camera that can produce cinematic results and arguing that it due to the option to shoot in 10-bit D-log M. Well, so does the Osmo Action 4 as well.
Not just 10-bit D-Log M, the OA4 also does it in 150Mbps instead of 100Mbps like on the OA5 Pro. With that said i don't think you would be able to see any actual difference between the two because of that.
@@LiamMarskog that’s interesting, didn’t know about the bitrate differences. Any way to actually identify the bitrate? I miss the advanced setting options on the Gopro Hero 12 where among others the bitrate could be set manually. However the image quality at D-log M 10-bit and both sharpness and noise reduction set to -2 is in my opinion really good and comparable to GP12 shot at 150Mbps (immensely much better rendition of details compared to auto settings!).
@@oisteinthomassen There is no way to see or manipulate the bitrate in either the OA4 or the OA5 Pro. Also it's not CBR but VBR so the bitrate will change depending on the situation which means the bitrate will most likely be similar if not the same a lot of the time even though the OA4 has a higher maximum bitrate. I believe it's the same on the GP12, you can set the maximum bitrate but it's still not CBR but VBR so it will change. CBR = Constant Bitrate, VBR = Variable Bitrate.
I absolutely agree, the IQ is better on the OA4 compared to the GP12. It's also still better than the GP13 which ofc still uses the same sensor as the GP12 and they didn't really do anything about IQ at all in that camera. They just introduced (basically stole) the magnetic mount from DJI and improved it a little plus really improved lens filters. Other than that it's about the same except for some higher frame rates which aren't all that useful. DJI still has them beat when it comes to sheer IQ in both OA4 and the OA5 Pro.
Like i said earlier i cannot see a IQ difference between the OA4 and 5 Pro that could be attributed to the lower bitrate. As the OA5 has much much better processing there's reason to believe stuff like HDR and ofc the possibility of no pixel binning whatsoever (full sensor readout) could increase IQ meaning no visual difference. Could also be that as both cameras use VBR the bitrate is most of the time similar if not the same which is why there's no real visual difference between the two IQ wise.
I believe it is already confirmed that the next firmware for the OA5 will allow higher bitrate and fix any issues everyone has had with that. So! Just hang in there.
@@HeyEllwood I have not seen any official statement whatsoever from DJI about allowing for higher bitrates in the OA5 Pro but it would make sense.
As for fixing issues people has had like the halo-effect around objects in normal color mode from the bad HDR implementation i'm sure they will fix that in firmware. Quite surprised that issue was allowed to not be fixed before release though.
Thank you for the video i got a 4 in the mail box and your video is just what I'm looking for! Even if you are sponsored by DJI i appreciate your view on the footage
Amazing sam
Good work, bought a 12 pro a few months back, difficult camera to get a clean image with via log etc, will pick this up as well and run some tests.
Hey First timer on your channel. i just purchased a DJI Action 5 Pro. I was very impressed the way you made the footage look. Thank you for this video. I just have one question, you said you use Gamut LUTS as style luts. which one of the LUT packs use purchased for the OA5 PRO?
Did you ever figure this out?
What did you use to apply the LUT?
Hi Sam, Crutis can really use your support now
I don't know why but the example clips that you showed gave me Season 1 Doctor Who vibes.
That's a good camera
Pretty awesome isn’t it! Always enjoy your videos 👍
Working on one, but need a bit better weather for the FPV bit (& a mount to arrive for the drone tomorrow) 😅
Absolutely killer video and great tips for this camera! I'm ready to shoot with it for the first time tomorrow.
Hi Sam. What's your video editing app?
Final Cut
Which app you are using on PC/LAPTOP to edit the footage?
Davinci
@@roninr8199 Thats FCP
Can I use this action 5 for home cooking videos?? Let know thanks
Yes. I've made a few. Don't use ND filters though😊
@@001SapoBBQ just wondering but why would you use ND filter in the house?
@@aytothemm.1035 I think I answered it wrong. I use them out back making BBQ videos
Awesome video
I don’t seethe link to the processing software
Is there a current action cam that can record continuously at 4k while also being plugged to a power source to go for hours of recording?
does DJI or some other company make filters / CPL's for the Action 5?
Cranky mate 😂😂
Hi Sam. Can I ask, does your motel LUT also apply the Rec.709 conversion, or is it just applied after rec.709 LUT conversion?
Wish they had a custom white balance feature for my colorchecker
I would really like to know the software name or program you used in this video for editing.
isnt it final cut?
Great video. Please could you let me know if you can take a photo while video is being recorded?
I don't have a mobile phone or a camera, if you were me would you bye this camera to take videos and photos on holiday?
Many MANY thanks for this! Any tips on battling those pesky micro jitters when using an ND on these with image stabilization enabled?
Try doubling the shutter speed again. So if you’re running 30fps at 1/60th try switching to 1/120. Gives the sensor just a little more info and it will help the micro stutters while still having motion blur.
@@colbycollins2553 Ah! Many thanks, will try that!
Does Osmo Action 5 Pro do well enough in low light in night mode?
Hi man , can you give me a tip or suggestion actually i bought osmo 5 pro and whenever i see output is bad its blurry so idk what happened with my camara.!
Aloha~i just got my action5, switched over from many years of experiences w/gp9,10,12...after first video recording in outdoor sunny sky my video is too dark...i have chekced the setting but not sure what am i doing wrong? thx.
you might have set it in manual. put everything in auto. exposure, iso, shutter speed if you are a beginner
Do you have a mist filter on to record this video or something like it for that soft glow effect?
It's D-Log M in Action 5 ruining the sharpness of the video, making everything look like behind the fog, but he 'forgot' to mention it.
Great video, Sam!
I recently tried a similar setup with my new DJI Osmo Action 5 using an ND8 filter, shooting at 4K24fps with a shutter speed of 1/50, and RockSteady/RockSteady+ enabled. Unfortunately, I ran into an issue where the footage had a noticeable shakiness or flickering, but the problem disappeared when I turned off stabilisation.
Have you ever noticed a similar issue with these settings?
Electronic stabilization absolutely needs high (i.e., short) shutter speeds. So the best way to use it - as an action camera - is to shoot at 60p, with high shutter speeds = without ND filters (and forget about "cinematic" B$. ) 24 fps is the worst frame rate for an action camera. Actually, it is terrible for any content to be watched on a 60 fps monitor.
Hey @komandagleby_GB!
Thanks for the reply :) I just heard back from DJI support, and yeah, they confirmed what you said! stabilisation doesn’t work well with those settings.
It kinda sucks seeing so many TH-camrs claim that it does work, when clearly it doesn’t...
what settings do you recommend on my action 5 for recording pickleball games indoors with good lighting. looking to upload matches onto youtube thank you !
perfect
completely new to action cameras and video editing, is there any software cheap enough or free to do all this you showed us?
Capcut is ur best bet. Free option is great and paid option isn’t too expensive either. Excellent for basic color grading especially u wanna practice with LUTs
PSA the action 4 also has DLog M 10 bit and those can be found for under $300 on sale right now.
Hello Sam, thank you for your nice video. Question, which program do you use to change colors when editing your videos with Dji Osmo Action 5 Pro?
Hi. I just use FCPX 👌🏻
What's the eding software you using
FCP
Noted. Thanks
Hi Sam, just find this while I was searching and looking for any comments about the latest Osmo Action 5 Pro. was wondering if you have experienced any overheating problem? I got overheating warning after just 25 minutes testing. Thanks.
Great vid! I'm going back and forth on purchasing this camera. I have my S5ii and a new S9 on the way, but looking for something for POV and other fun shots. Debating between this and the Insta360 3s. Would love your thoughts
Interesting, hopefully companies don't just focus solely on users who colour grade footage and give us decent in standard out camera .
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I've got the osmo action 3 when riding my motorbike over 1000miles with the 3 and I love it. I have several episodes on my channel. I'm still thinking why I should upgrade to 5pro
Then don't
Which the desktop video editor you use for DJI osmo action and which editors you prefer for both windows and macos?
Thats FCP, so hes on a Mac
OA5 is a OA4 with '5 Pro' at the end of the name.
Red tint when adding more ND -> cheapo NDs that don't block the full spectrum, causing IR pollution to become more prominent!
Great job!
Can the front screen on Action 5 be turned off?
Yes
Osmo5 or pocket 3?
One is for action.
Does the software come with the camera?
Sorry, but that Motel look is absolutly not to my liking. (To dark, dull and old yellow)
The Action 5 Pro is not the first one to support d-log 10 bit, Action 4 does too
Which program are you using on PC to edit the footage?
He said it: FCP
@@mathiassiebert1217which is?
@@mathiassiebert1217maybe Final Cut Pro? If so it is for Mac, what could I use for Windows?
@@abmtommaso FCP is for Mac
I’ve just got this camera. Still feel that this is very bad in low light.
How sad that iPhone does better videos than DJI Action 5.😔
Hi I’m from UK and need help….
I’ve just bought this from an Osmo 1 (so know the product). I’ve been filming a few things and then when downloaded to PC (iMac) the footage is jumpy and not continuous. Sound isn’t, tried internal and external on 4k and both seem to provide the same footage. Is this faulty or I’m I stupid and doing something wrong which I’d be shocked at.. tried all sorts! Many thanks if you can help explain
Now I know why I’m not a good TH-camr. I don’t ride a skateboard. Seems to be a prerequisite.
You can never get truly cinematic footage following the rules because of the digital stabilization. You need a mechanical gimbal. You can get cinematic footage if the action cam is not moving, though.
I get the feeling that you use too much halo blur or similar. It is so exaggerated that it looks like the optics are dirty instead of giving the feeling of nostalgic.
The Action4 is the good one.
Jesus, why everything looks so mushy. Is that the low bitrate everyone is talking about?!
Because D-Log M in this camera makes it look like this, ruining the video, but he 'forgot' to mention about it.
Hillary Spring
That red tint you're talking about is IR pollution
you can't just buy it and use it, you should regist an account and unlock the camera. it's too bad
Waiting for DJI to address the very low bitrate with a firmware update before considering the AC5. 100 Mbps MAX is terrible, considering more popular resolutions and framerate combinations are closer to half that. The hardware aspects are great, but DJI went very conservative with the software.
I dont know what you did but everything looks very gloomy in your footage, doesn’t look nice at all
Because D-Log M in this camera makes it look like this, ruining the video, but he 'forgot' to mention it.
@@WstalSprzedKompa Are you a bot? You make the same comment 50 times.
@michaelbell75 yes I am a bot ;)
your video is too dark, too soft, lost a lot of details. hm... not my taste.
cinematic for him is this....?
Lol I'm the total opposite
WHO cares 🐸
Do you have a cheat sheet with all the settings?
Skill issue.
Они просто задушили матрицу в четвертой и раскрыли в пятой. Вот и все. Именно поэтому insta360 снимала и снимает лучше четвертой
Yea with that slow bitrate Cinematic is the Way....for all other go with Hero13 or wait what Insta360 do😅
Actually, my Action 4 looks better IMO. I'll wait to upgrade
You act like 10 bit wasn’t on the action 4. Lol how much you got paid by DJI?
every shadow look so dark. it looks like recording SIN CITY. the white balance no good at all
Hahahaha
Favorite camera gear channel man😤 ever since you put me onto the Comica VM20🫡
Thank you! Great to have you here 🎥🤩🙏🏻
looks underexposed to me
God I regret buying this camera so much right now. It does so incredibly bad with movement. The processing is way too much. I can’t believe how DJI got this so wrong. My hero 8 took better video.
Return it. Simple.
@@leewinter28 too late
I'm sure firmware updates will help. The Action 4 is amazing and better than any GoPro I've had.
Well this makes me happy that... I didn't order it.. I'm waiting for ace pro 2
269 / 5.000
You say that after watching a video? Oh man, maybe you should just form your own opinion. I've heard that filming with a camera helps. Just give it a try. Otherwise, eBay will help if you can't manage to use the Action 5 properly.
Got the camera and it is a huuuuge disappointment! The low bitrate makes my GoPro 9 looks twice as good.
That blooming effect looks horrendous.
is it that HLG mode which gives it that look or an overpowered pro mist like filter ?
great tips!