Arguably one of the most phenomenal live recordings of any opera in the post 1950s era. And Leyla was - IMHO - the most unjustly under-rated artist of that period. She was a goddess even back then ....but if we were to be so blessed to have her among the crop of sopranos we have today ...Leyla would need to be carried around on a pedestal! RIP, dear Leyla! Please know that with every new generation - thanks to these recordings, your legion of fans only grows!!
Agreed 120%. Listen to Ah Dolce Guidami (cavatina near end of Anna Bolena). It's the most gorgeous signing I have ever heard, and I have heard MUCH in my 72 years. Pianissimi and floated notes like no one.
Gencer has to be one of most sadly neglected greats of the opera world EVER! Her voice and that of Callas were the most distinctive in the world while they were active. She could sing almost any score with artistry that was amazing!
And Leyla had an especially beautiful legato phrasing and high pianissimo notes that Callas, as great and unique as she was, just couldn't equal. Gencer definitely deserves to be held in the same esteem as other female singing greats of the bel canto revival such as Callas, Caballe, Sutherland and Sills.
@@barrymalkin4404 la Callas aveva le note alte in pianissimo. Era un altro tipo di canto e di espressione. La Callas, in Sonnambula e tutte le sere, smorzava il Mib dal fortissimo al pianissimo e con scala cromatica discendente. La Gencer per quanto brava si limitava a note piu' basse e al confronto con altre cantanti coeve aveva la voce un po vuota. Ho visto in teatro Leyla decine di volte e so di che si tratta. Gencer una grande artista ma con la Callas, vocalmente, poco in comune.
Gencer and Verrett-The combination of Great Skill and outstanding performance. The outcome is far beyond the man-made power of symbols and words. The interaction between Gencer’s last note and a loving embrace of audience was unbelievable and unforgettable.
Un'interpretazione paradigmatica di uno dei brani che, quanto a pathos ed efficacia teatrale, non ha praticamente eguali nella storia dell'opera lirica - ne sa qualcosa il povero Donizetti, letteralmente vessato dalla censura per questa partitura, costatagli mille rifacimenti. E qui la coppia di fuoriclasse Gencer-Verrett riesce a raggiungere la perfezione assoluta - persino sul piano della dizione, il che non è cosa da poco se si pensa che la prima è turca e la seconda americana.
Simply the greatest!!!! The "vil bastarda" at 6:08 gets "bravas" from the Florentine audience and then that high D at the end ...it will always just blow me away!!
Leyla Gencer and Shirley Verrett... two of the greatest soprano falcons/assolutas post-Callas era the world of Opera has ever seen! Such an amazing confrontation scene!
Gencer's voice was not a voice of singing perfection, but it was a dramatic voice like no other. And this she did brilliantly. She was a theater voice, a stage voice. Perhaps for this reason there are no studio recordings.
Like the equally undeservedly underrated Magda Olivero, were it not for the imperfectly sonic pirate recordings, Leyla would be completely forgotten today. So let's be grateful for them.
Due grandissime interpreti di questo celeberrimo duetto funestate da una direzione d'orchestra semplicemente scandalosa: non segue i cantanti, accellera in modo sbagliato, nel "tutti" copre le voci, un vero disastro. Ma la grandezza della Gencer e della Verrett, fortunatamente, emerge ugualmente. L'invettiva rabbiosa della Gencer/Stuarda è memorabile!
Ascoltate dal vero entrambe al Festival di Edinburgh nel 1969, tecniche raffinatissime, grandi interpreti, attrici fantastiche...e dopo lo spettacolo grande chiacchierata con Leyla nel camerino :)
that high D La Gencer throws at the end of the ensemble really does something to me, but it is only the crowning moment of a wonderfully sung scene. lucky audiences in Florence
Look...this is as good as it gets...these two nobles square off and they both hold their own...I'm like, Ms. Gencer? Is that you? What happened in the dressing room backstage that you were clearing up on the stage with Shirley? Hahahahahah!!! BEST MARY STUART CONFRONTATION EVER!!!
Gender could manipulate her voice like no one else . She spit Fire at the Queen here and the audience shouted their approval . What acting with the voice . And the note at the ending was almost supernaturally done!
It cannot be better. They are outstanding - marvellous. What intensity and what musical power! I don't think we will hear the likes of this in many years - if ever....
It really is so very very bad. That Gencer and Verrett triumph in spite of a conductor doing his best to suck the life out of this scene is a testament to their caliber as artists and professionals. The way Gencer's high note matches pitch and timbre with the violins at the end is superhuman.
the Empyrean of Art.....in the last note, Madame Gencer is Maria, Donizetti, Schiller, Dumas... she is THE WORLD. Se queste cose esistono, c'è una ragione per vivere!
Reportedly, there was some tension between Gencer and the conductor Francesco Molinari-Pradelli because of that final 'No!' before 'Figlia impura di Bolena'. Gencer wanted to sing it before the orchestra stopped (like she did here) and Molinari-Pradelli didn't like it. Rehearsals were cancelled, both were mad at each other and it took some effort to bring them back. Maybe this rapid pace is a result of that friction. Nonetheless, this is one of the most precious moments in the history of recorded opera. Who wouldn't want to be in Teatro Comunale that night?
Something tells me that Leyla won the vast majority of the battles in which she was involved!! Bravissima Leyla!! This is arguably one of the most spectacular live recordings of all times. The reaction of the Florentine audience is epic! In fact, I saved the last 28 seconds of this as the ringtone for my cell phone - including the thunderous BRAVA!!!
Ah, but Lino - all my friends know it's my phone when they hear the ring tone with the grand Leyla!! Also - my one cat is named Leyla ....and everyone knows her as the Diva!! I am totally addicted to Leyla..... I even went to Leyla's "museum" in Istanbul!!
Salve, Vincenzo ...si - la turca e' la mia preferita! Ho studiato a Firenze per diversi anni, e uno dei miei piu' bei ricordi era di conoscere la Gencer e Maestro Gavazzeni!! Era un incontro incredibile!
Grazie, Vincenzo! Non ho nessun problema a chi mi vuole correggere il mio itlaiano - ormai non piu' corrente. Se non sbaglio - era pure il Manzoni a dire che bisognava ogni tanto sciacquare i panni in Arno. Ed io probabilmente a questo punto - mi ci dovrei tuffare con un boccaglio...... Comunque rimane il fatto che adoro La Leyla - ed anche il Donizetti!!
swearty203 Do you know where I can find the full recording of this? I’ve been looking, and it doesn’t appear to be readily available online, and I’m too far from a record store for that to be a viable avenue of search
Read a review of this production saying how amazing Gencer was because she seemed able to sing any role! Why wasn’t she more recorded ? She didn’t need high notes alone to form a character . Verret was a great singer when she sang in her range! Alas she ruined her beautiful voice far too early! But this was sensational on all counts. Wish the whole thing were available if only for Gencer’s high note which comes out unbelievable!
due grande artiste...studiose....e musiciste eccelse...che indicarono il futuro del Belcanto come logos drammatico e epico ....che era in atto allora sull'esempio algido...Callas/Simionato confortate però da un'orchestrazione più Degna.
who are the three thumbs down??? just curious....... :-) :-) it's like the ones I meet in the Sistine Chapel and they say that they do not like Michelangelo or Renaissance.....I wonder why they pay a ticket to see it or why they listen to this......maybe Cher or Beyoncé is a better option for them......
Gencer was a great soprano trapped between Callas and Sutherland. She could sing almost anything and could act quite well but those two other huge personas left little room for her. I saw her perform "Alceste" at the Rome and was stunned by her perfect understanding of the classical [i.e., Gluck] style and how to infuse it with great drama while preserving the line of the music.
Great comment, just perfect and concise! Listen, I assume from your nickname that you're a fanatic of Lucrezia Borgia...the unbelievably beautiful final aria "Era desso il figlio mio..." Have you listened to Joan Sutherland singing that aria. She is just fantastic. If you like also Maria Stuarda, I warmly invite you to listen to the "Confrontation scene" sung by Leyla Gencer and Shirley Verrett. It's just beyond believe. I look forward to hearing from you. Ciao. Francesco
Pradelli dirige da cane!!!! Se ci fossero state due cantanti di oggi al posto di questi 2 colossi le voci non si sarebbero udite neanche a un metro di distanza!! Quindi brave due volte
Si, Vincenzo! Dico sempre che sono fiorentina data a New York! Ho studiato in Italia per molti anni ...adoro la lirica italiana ....e la turca e' la mia preferita!
Doesn't get any better than this. Despite the very poor orchestral accompaniment (too fast, not in sync with the singers), the drama is palpable, the voices of those two great ladies unsparing. Oh, that Leyla's spitting out of the crucial words and the huge High D in the end. THIS is staged opera, people!
Is it Gencer singing the queen? And which one sings that EXTRAORDINARY high note at the end? It sounds like a D or D flat. Yowza! THis is a great recording.
Orchestra terribile, sempre in ritardo, suono sempre forte e volgare in qualsiasi passaggio. La grande Gencer e Verret ci fanno dimenticare l’obrobrio di suono dell’orchestra e la vergognosa direzione di Pradelli che ha STUPRATO un opera d’arte. Oggi avremmo potuto avere una registrazione da capolavoro invece che questa cagata
Ciao Francesco! Devo dirti che in materia di Era Desso (che ovviamente adoro ai limiti del fanatismo) dò il mio 10 alla Devia. La Sutherland, insomma, ha una dizione talmente fastidiosa... ha uno strumento meraviglioso, sia chiaro... ma preferisco una sbavatura della Gencer, o qualche agilità in meno della Caballé piuttosto che la Sutherland.. Idem per la Sutherland nella "Figlia impura" la dizione rovina il clima della scena..
La Devia al posto della Sutherland...tu devi essere sorda o incompetente o folle...scomodi una Sutherland per paragonarla ad una cantante dalla voce di timbro scolorito, senza mordente, smorta, si con qualche sopracuto in buone condizioni...mio Dio..anche la Devia non ha una pronuncia granche' anche se italiana..ha l'uovo in bocca pure lei.
Arguably one of the most phenomenal live recordings of any opera in the post 1950s era. And Leyla was - IMHO - the most unjustly under-rated artist of that period.
She was a goddess even back then ....but if we were to be so blessed to have her among the crop of sopranos we have today ...Leyla would need to be carried around on a pedestal!
RIP, dear Leyla! Please know that with every new generation - thanks to these recordings, your legion of fans only grows!!
Agreed 120%. Listen to Ah Dolce Guidami (cavatina near end of Anna Bolena). It's the most gorgeous signing I have ever heard, and I have heard MUCH in my 72 years. Pianissimi and floated notes like no one.
Gencer has to be one of most sadly neglected greats of the opera world EVER! Her voice and that of Callas were the most distinctive in the world while they were active. She could sing almost any score with artistry that was amazing!
The one and only Leyla Gencer
InstaBlaster.
And Leyla had an especially beautiful legato phrasing and high pianissimo notes that Callas, as great and unique as she was, just couldn't equal. Gencer definitely deserves to be held in the same esteem as other female singing greats of the bel canto revival such as Callas, Caballe, Sutherland and Sills.
@@barrymalkin4404 la Callas aveva le note alte in pianissimo. Era un altro tipo di canto e di espressione. La Callas, in Sonnambula e tutte le sere, smorzava il Mib dal fortissimo al pianissimo e con scala cromatica discendente. La Gencer per quanto brava si limitava a note piu' basse e al confronto con altre cantanti coeve aveva la voce un po vuota. Ho visto in teatro Leyla decine di volte e so di che si tratta. Gencer una grande artista ma con la Callas, vocalmente, poco in comune.
@@fabriziogarzi9892 Leyla Gencer generally speaking used a lot of pianissimo, morre so than anyone I can think of.
Thank goodness for live recordings like this one. Superb example of great singing by Gencer and Verrett.
Gencer and Verrett-The combination of Great Skill and outstanding performance. The outcome is far beyond the man-made power of symbols and words. The interaction between Gencer’s last note and a loving embrace of audience was unbelievable and unforgettable.
Due belve.... fantastiche...in questa scena la Gencer è insuperabile...
Si! Due Pantere indomabili! SUPREME!!!!!!
Un'interpretazione paradigmatica di uno dei brani che, quanto a pathos ed efficacia teatrale, non ha praticamente eguali nella storia dell'opera lirica - ne sa qualcosa il povero Donizetti, letteralmente vessato dalla censura per questa partitura, costatagli mille rifacimenti. E qui la coppia di fuoriclasse Gencer-Verrett riesce a raggiungere la perfezione assoluta - persino sul piano della dizione, il che non è cosa da poco se si pensa che la prima è turca e la seconda americana.
Simply the greatest!!!! The "vil bastarda" at 6:08 gets "bravas" from the Florentine audience and then that high D at the end ...it will always just blow me away!!
Lucky who was there at that time listening to them live.
Two Titans.
Best ever!
Leyla Gencer and Shirley Verrett... two of the greatest soprano falcons/assolutas post-Callas era the world of Opera has ever seen! Such an amazing confrontation scene!
Post Callas??? Gencer was under the shadow of Callas!!!!
@@seanbeat8661
Callas had almost ended her short career when this was captured and Gencer continued to sing for at least 10 years.
Gencer in gran forma, più Gencer che mai😂 ma con una gran rivale, la Verret le tiene testa con grande maestria.
Gencer's voice was not a voice of singing perfection, but it was a dramatic voice like no other. And this she did brilliantly. She was a theater voice, a stage voice. Perhaps for this reason there are no studio recordings.
Like the equally undeservedly underrated Magda Olivero, were it not for the imperfectly sonic pirate recordings, Leyla would be completely forgotten today. So let's be grateful for them.
Due grandissime interpreti di questo celeberrimo duetto funestate da una direzione d'orchestra semplicemente scandalosa: non segue i cantanti, accellera in modo sbagliato, nel "tutti" copre le voci, un vero disastro. Ma la grandezza della Gencer e della Verrett, fortunatamente, emerge ugualmente. L'invettiva rabbiosa della Gencer/Stuarda è memorabile!
One of the most thrilling encounters ever captured in opera.
This was a historic match up . I remember at the time the opera periodicals abuz with word of these sensational performances !!!!
Ascoltate dal vero entrambe al Festival di Edinburgh nel 1969, tecniche raffinatissime, grandi interpreti, attrici fantastiche...e dopo lo spettacolo grande chiacchierata con Leyla nel camerino :)
This is exciting music wonderfully sung by 2 tremendous artists.
that high D La Gencer throws at the end of the ensemble really does something to me, but it is only the crowning moment of a wonderfully sung scene. lucky audiences in Florence
Look...this is as good as it gets...these two nobles square off and they both hold their own...I'm like, Ms. Gencer? Is that you? What happened in the dressing room backstage that you were clearing up on the stage with Shirley? Hahahahahah!!! BEST MARY STUART CONFRONTATION EVER!!!
Gender could manipulate her voice like no one else . She spit
Fire at the Queen here and the audience shouted their approval . What acting with the voice . And the note at the ending was almost supernaturally done!
Gencer sounds like a real mezzo at the beginning of the aria!! She is great so is Verret!!
It cannot be better. They are outstanding - marvellous. What intensity and what musical power! I don't think we will hear the likes of this in many years - if ever....
Due voci straordinarie, perfette nei ruoli, disastrosamente diretta con una velocità che sfalsa e disturba!
NO ONE CAN DO THAT TODAY!!! God forbid they hit a wrong note!
It really is so very very bad. That Gencer and Verrett triumph in spite of a conductor doing his best to suck the life out of this scene is a testament to their caliber as artists and professionals. The way Gencer's high note matches pitch and timbre with the violins at the end is superhuman.
tempo aside, Gencer and Verrett gives everything you would want in this scene!
the Empyrean of Art.....in the last note, Madame Gencer is Maria, Donizetti, Schiller, Dumas... she is THE WORLD. Se queste cose esistono, c'è una ragione per vivere!
Absolument fabuleux, nulles rivales dans ce rôle pour Gencer!
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Amazing vocal acting from Gencer, worthy comparison with Callas. It's not about perfection of voice but about the total effect. Both Bravi.
Unrivalled! I would give it 6 stars if I could!!!
Reportedly, there was some tension between Gencer and the conductor Francesco Molinari-Pradelli because of that final 'No!' before 'Figlia impura di Bolena'. Gencer wanted to sing it before the orchestra stopped (like she did here) and Molinari-Pradelli didn't like it. Rehearsals were cancelled, both were mad at each other and it took some effort to bring them back. Maybe this rapid pace is a result of that friction.
Nonetheless, this is one of the most precious moments in the history of recorded opera. Who wouldn't want to be in Teatro Comunale that night?
Something tells me that Leyla won the vast majority of the battles in which she was involved!! Bravissima Leyla!! This is arguably one of the most spectacular live recordings of all times. The reaction of the Florentine audience is epic!
In fact, I saved the last 28 seconds of this as the ringtone for my cell phone - including the thunderous BRAVA!!!
Ah, but Lino - all my friends know it's my phone when they hear the ring tone with the grand Leyla!! Also - my one cat is named Leyla ....and everyone knows her as the Diva!!
I am totally addicted to Leyla..... I even went to Leyla's "museum" in Istanbul!!
Salve, Vincenzo ...si - la turca e' la mia preferita! Ho studiato a Firenze per diversi anni, e uno dei miei piu' bei ricordi era di conoscere la Gencer e Maestro Gavazzeni!! Era un incontro incredibile!
Grazie, Vincenzo!
Non ho nessun problema a chi mi vuole correggere il mio itlaiano - ormai non piu' corrente. Se non sbaglio - era pure il Manzoni a dire che bisognava ogni tanto sciacquare i panni in Arno. Ed io probabilmente a questo punto - mi ci dovrei tuffare con un boccaglio......
Comunque rimane il fatto che adoro La Leyla - ed anche il Donizetti!!
swearty203 Do you know where I can find the full recording of this? I’ve been looking, and it doesn’t appear to be readily available online, and I’m too far from a record store for that to be a viable avenue of search
Read a review of this production saying how amazing Gencer was because she seemed able to sing any role! Why wasn’t she more recorded ? She didn’t need high notes alone to form a character . Verret was a great singer when she sang in her range! Alas she ruined her beautiful voice far too early! But this was sensational on all counts. Wish the whole thing were available if only for Gencer’s high note which comes out unbelievable!
It is a high D natural (re sopracuto). Gencer sings it.
Gencer sings Stuarda and Verrett sings Elizabeth. Perfect combination!
Best version hands down
Magical , grand opera at it’s grandest !
due grande artiste...studiose....e musiciste eccelse...che indicarono il futuro del Belcanto come logos drammatico e epico
....che era in atto allora sull'esempio algido...Callas/Simionato confortate però da un'orchestrazione più Degna.
bravisimo
Just beyond fucking believe. DIVINE! I can't get over it.
MATCHLESS!!
Amazing!
Grandissime e strepitose
E perdipiu' non proprio avvantaggiate dalle loro etnie: una afroamericana e l'altra turca!
Vero.
Great!!!!
La Gencer,La Gencer e ancora una volta LA GENCER .
Sempre, sì. Stratosferica.
Peccato che la direzione e orchestra siano da cani
5:32 . "Figlia impura di Bolena !"
Ovviamente, ancora oggi, senza pari. E non esistendo una Stuarda della Callas Leyla resterà per sempre la sola unica...Maria concorda.
who are the three thumbs down??? just curious....... :-) :-) it's like the ones I meet in the Sistine Chapel and they say that they do not like Michelangelo or Renaissance.....I wonder why they pay a ticket to see it or why they listen to this......maybe Cher or Beyoncé is a better option for them......
Bravissimo!
die beste MARIA STUARDA und beste ELISABTH...
This is the best!
Gencer was a great soprano trapped between Callas and Sutherland. She could sing almost anything and could act quite well but those two other huge personas left little room for her. I saw her perform "Alceste" at the Rome and was stunned by her perfect understanding of the classical [i.e., Gluck] style and how to infuse it with great drama while preserving the line of the music.
It is amazing. She totally rocks.
Wonderful!
Great comment, just perfect and concise!
Listen, I assume from your nickname that you're a fanatic of Lucrezia Borgia...the unbelievably beautiful final aria "Era desso il figlio mio..." Have you listened to Joan Sutherland singing that aria. She is just fantastic. If you like also Maria Stuarda, I warmly invite you to listen to the "Confrontation scene" sung by Leyla Gencer and Shirley Verrett. It's just beyond believe. I look forward to hearing from you. Ciao. Francesco
The High D is Gencer. She did sustain that note very long in many other occasions.
The high D is sung first by Gencer then by both voices.
Pradelli dirige da cane!!!! Se ci fossero state due cantanti di oggi al posto di questi 2 colossi le voci non si sarebbero udite neanche a un metro di distanza!!
Quindi brave due volte
Sono completamente d'accordo!! E pure La Leyla lo distrugge!!
Si, Vincenzo! Dico sempre che sono fiorentina data a New York! Ho studiato in Italia per molti anni ...adoro la lirica italiana ....e la turca e' la mia preferita!
cioe' - nata a New York!
too slow and heavy
bravissima
Doesn't get any better than this. Despite the very poor orchestral accompaniment (too fast, not in sync with the singers), the drama is palpable, the voices of those two great ladies unsparing. Oh, that Leyla's spitting out of the crucial words and the huge High D in the end. THIS is staged opera, people!
Une légende......
I didn't know that Gencer had such a great High D
She had an Eb too!
WOUAHHHHHHHHH
BRAVE!
best of best
No, Gencer sings Stuarda who hits the high D at the end.
I see my questions answered in other comments. Thanks.
Gencer is singing Stuarda and Verrett is singing the queen who hits that high D at the end!
Exciting but too often behind the beat.
Is it Gencer singing the queen? And which one sings that EXTRAORDINARY high note at the end? It sounds like a D or D flat. Yowza! THis is a great recording.
gencer, with re naturale D
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sembra che Molinari avesse fretta di finire. .. Era il terzo rivale?? Mah...
Pero' bello il finale "precipitoso".
Brave!
What are the names of the tenors? They do not seem to be chopped meat, are they?
Jon Laan Franco Tagliavini is the Roberto.
A great tenor, as I have been told and know!
Orchestra terribile, sempre in ritardo, suono sempre forte e volgare in qualsiasi passaggio. La grande Gencer e Verret ci fanno dimenticare l’obrobrio di suono dell’orchestra e la vergognosa direzione di Pradelli che ha STUPRATO un opera d’arte. Oggi avremmo potuto avere una registrazione da capolavoro invece che questa cagata
Ciao Francesco! Devo dirti che in materia di Era Desso (che ovviamente adoro ai limiti del fanatismo) dò il mio 10 alla Devia.
La Sutherland, insomma, ha una dizione talmente fastidiosa... ha uno strumento meraviglioso, sia chiaro... ma preferisco una sbavatura della Gencer, o qualche agilità in meno della Caballé piuttosto che la Sutherland..
Idem per la Sutherland nella "Figlia impura" la dizione rovina il clima della scena..
La Devia al posto della Sutherland...tu devi essere sorda o incompetente o folle...scomodi una Sutherland per paragonarla ad una cantante dalla voce di timbro scolorito, senza mordente, smorta, si con qualche sopracuto in buone condizioni...mio Dio..anche la Devia non ha una pronuncia granche' anche se italiana..ha l'uovo in bocca pure lei.
La Devia non puo' stare neppure a un chilometro da quelle che hai scritto. Una cantante scialba, con un fraseggio inesistente.
Что это ?
la Verret sempre fantastica, la Gencer purtroppo non all'altezza della Verret
Ma che diamine dice?? Ahahah
Beata ignoranza 😂
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