I've privated the reaction video to the Wilson v. Dimo situation as I feel as though, after looking a LOT more into it, the initial reaction (which is what it was and was what I posted) wasn't in-depth enough to paint an accurate picture. The follow-up video regarding my feelings on Dimo NOT cheating is what I believe to be right. To Dimo: if you see this, I want to apologize for sounding like it was a flex for saying you were a "nobody". My point, which I failed to get across, was to say (and I did at the end of my video which I don't think most people saw) that WE are BOTH relative unknowns. For that reason, it doesn't make sense to slag someone with your level of notoriety in a niche video game on speculation, which could ruin you before you even get started. It came off like I was trying to say "I'm more important" when really I was trying to say "no one is this important", especially not for the kind of negative attention you got from this.
I started watching your videos recently, same with Dimo, and I'm so glad you did your due diligence to check the source material yourself. Highly respectable. It shows you understand the _responsibilities_ associated with being a creator, with a platform. Bravo sir. PS. W Onepeg, W Dimo.
Did turn off the initial video from yours a third through because of this but not thinking it through / wording wrong can happen ❣️ speaking out of my experience that looking at clips without context can lead to drama / or a wrong perception of your persona 😅 great move by you for owning up to it and apologizing to dimo! Thanks for always keeping the community up to date keep it up and take care everyone ❤️
this shows how damaging can be a video like the one Wilson did. Even you, who usually does due dilligence can fall for such an accusation when not having the whole context and being mislead with wrong information. Imagine now that 99% of the viewers on the internet do not have your critical thinking ability and fall for such crap. It is so sad. Really nice that you correct your mistakes! Cheers and keep up the good work.
Onepeg losing credibility tbh. He gives the "news" from patchnotes. That's all he's good at. If he can't tell the difference between legit gameplay, and obvious cheating, then I can't take him seriously. This channel is just patch notes in video form, and that is it. Everything else he speaks on should be taken with a pinch of salt.
@@tj8606 The only "credibility" he ever had was favoritism. He got his name in Tarkov by meat riding and then he did the same over here and got a leg up because the devs knew him from his tarkov riding days. A useful mouthpiece
The panther clip at 1:40 is 100% cheating. A frame perfect prediction snap to a panther's head mid transformation. It's not even hyperbole either; the crosshair literally skips frames to the panther's head the literal instant the druid transforms. No pro can do that. Nobody can do that by accident. That is a machine input. But you still had to say shit like: "Wilson was a pretty smart dude....until now" You were a pretty smart dude until you spent 10 minutes talking about everything BUT the most obvious example shown in the video. The cherry on top is when you would say things like "nothing in the entire video", while never addressing that moment.
The worst part is that the damage is already done. Even if he retracts and apologizes to dimo, reddit and the casual player base will always call dimo a cheater now. Cutting out important clip context is also disgusting behavior to be honest
Thats not true, I thought Dimo was cheating before the video came out and when it came out I was hit hard by confirmation bias. After seeing this guy talk on it twice I'm way more receptive to believing he's not cheating. I think if anything Willson will have ruined his rep way more than Dimos would have been ruined.
[Timestamps based on Wilson's video] I am not the end all be all of cheat detection but I like to be generally more cautious so here are my thoughts on the evidence in the video: 3:29 | The sheathed rogue (rogue one) made the mistake of turning off the lights in the area immediately surrounding him, the second rogue (rogue two) who walks into the room COULD have seen the turned off torches and decided to play cautiously around the obvious rogue landmine spot. Furthermore the second rogues reactions were all in time with the de-stealth and movement of rogue one. That giggle looking directly at the rogue is extremely suspect however, honestly wish that was in the preview clip at the start. 1:39 | The positioning of his mouse and the movement of it are all suspicious but not enough for me to feel confident in an aimbot accusation. They just feel like tracking that has been slowed down to half speed looking weird. 4:28 | If you watch the ORIGINAL video you can just barely hear the footsteps he mentions in the video if you replay 11:04-10:05 of New Patch Barbarian is OVERPOWERED | Solo PvP Build | Dark and Darker. So... ye he was honest he heard him. 4:54 | This is actually nothing, he doesn't lock on his cursor even moves PAST his stationary target. 5:45 | This one had me a believer until I actually dissected the clip. In the clip he charges a throw, tries to cancel (fails), jump dodges back and due to the charged axe throws it behind him where he was looking. If he was locking onto the person behind the pillar his aim would have been higher up, his aim doesn't snap and is aimed down like someone trying to jump dodge. 6:15 | High sensitivity gameplay... if he had aimbot it would aim for a consistent position like their head not generally towards them, that's how people aim. 7:40 | A high sensitivity (but very difficult) flick, this one could be aimbot because of the perfection of the tracking but Its also humanly possible so Hanlon's Razor applies. 7:50 | Suspicious gameplay but not too out of the ordinary for a cautious rogue player. Checks door 9:41 | After watching high skill PVPers like Jay, Repoze, etc its normal to rush to jail cause its the main hub for pvp for good players. The perfect tracking of the player is mildly suspicious but could be explained as cautious investigation. 10:30 | examining in lobby.... exists (this clip is dumb) 11:44 | This appears to me to be normal gameplay, he fights people, sees a fight and waits for them to finish, bumps into a player, retreats, bumps into a rogue, fights to escape =-=-=-=-= In the end I would say there is not enough evidence to prove a high likelihood of cheating, I would have recommended you send this to Graysun and ask for him to run a check (I have done this before if its a high profile player and you lay out your evidence the IM team will usually comply to some extent to check). If you have more evidence I recommend making a google doc where you lay out all the timestamps, but ultimately unless he streams its hard to prove as a content creator only posts content worthy clips. If @Dimo sees this and wants to share the raw video files for long strings of gameplay from any of these incidents I will happily sort through it to confirm/deny any likelihood of cheats but otherwise this point seems mute.
@@lordcollector I would also add if you analyze what Wilson says and his attitude it seems rather defamatory in nature even though he is claiming the opposite. The title and description of the video contradicts his statements about making our own judgement throughout the video .
I agree with a lot of the points you've made and I fully think the likelihood of Dimo cheating is not any higher than just about any other player, none of these things seems all that suspicious to me. Being cautious of a dark spot is such a common thing, I think the fact that Wilson completely ignores that fact is almost certainly malicious. And Dimo's aim isn't nearly snappy enough to be a standard aimbot. It would have to be extremely intelligent aim assist.
aimbot does not have to be locked on to the chest/head..if you want it to aim at the legs you can. for you to say it does not make sense seems lack of common sense. b/c that feature can easily be used to look legit. so how does that not make sense to you? however i believe he was not using it for legs. rather upper portions. you were not showing the clips that wilson showed of the lock on, on druid transforming. easily the best footage of the aimlock snap. dude is a cheater. ppl are just going to be stupid and not want to accept. or cannot see blatant cheats.
@@Onepeg Like you said in your first video. Your audience was asking you your opinion on the subject, so you went to watch and gave your input. I don't blame you in the least for giving a reaction to what your viewers kept asking you about. If anything, you earned my respect by digging deeper on your own and coming back with your own conclusions and sharing it in this second video. Good on you bro.
@@Onepeg I didn't like your first video because you were obviously swayed by the editing style instead of making your own conclusions but I guess I wasn't completely right. You proved me wrong by ACTUALLY doing your own research and making a clear mistake right. For that I commend you.
I'm not convinced he isn't cheating. Having an aimbot that only snaps to centerline rather than snapping to head/torso would be much harder to detect visually, having the latter would probably be too obvious for a content creator...
Not to mention, snapping to centerline only (which doesn't have to be a hard snap btw) would be more useful in DaD anyway since there is so much drop to account for with projectiles.
Thank you for putting this video out there. I felt the same as many in watching Wilson's video right up until I watched Dimo's full response. It appears that Dimo is just a very good player and his videos are edited to focus on highlights and not full matches. To me, Wilson should have never called Dimo out without having concrete evidence of cheating. Just because he doesn't understand something doesn't make it suspect.
ty for doing this tbh you can tell dimo's english isnt the best and hes already pretty shaken from this whole thing so his response vid was very unsatisfactory for alot of casual players 🙏 people have no idea how hard it is to explain every single thing that goes through your head especially when alot of these clips were weeks ago
I've tried really hard to stay on neither side of the fence, I just wanna say, good on you for making this. Regardless of the outcome, Dimo does _not_ deserve the death threats and hate he is getting over a video game. There is a _very good_ reason many other games have rules against public accusations in this fashion, and we unfortunately get to see the every aspect of why.
This discussion wouldn't even be happening if Ironmace's cheat detection was more reliable. This is ultimately on Ironmace - they need to improve their cheat detection so this paranoia doesn't sweep through the community.
Hard disagree. Huge companies barely get anticheat right. It wasnt right for one youtuber to go after another with little to no context and just burn them at the stake. With or without a bteer anticheat if this still happened the way it did people would have reacted the same way
the problem is there's no perfect anti-cheat, the most effective one are the ones nobody like because they're also the most invasive with kernel-level driver installed (valorant for exemple)
Always watch u one peg but if you look at Dino’s newest video you can see how Wilson edited like 8 of Dimos videos to defame him I watch you and Dimo all day when I work when I’m home teach me so much about the game
I believe three things: Wilson wants clout. Wison doesnt know that game sense exists Wilson doesnt know that pro gamers can flick and be good at aiming
As an even nobody-er nobody, I will withhold judgement until Iron Mace looks into it. There are a lot of things that can be argued one way or the other even in this video unfortunately, so I really think the only reasonable thing is for people to sit tight and wait for Iron Mace to launch an investigation. If Dimo has source footage or whatever Iron Mace needs to prove his innocence, cool, if not, that's not really his responsibility either. It unfortunately falls on Iron Mace's shoulders to figure it out as the community will always arm the offensive on cheaters especially when (even slightly) compelling evidence is put together. It's the natural reaction to oppose something like this and it's difficult to expect everyone to have a measured response, including Dimo who probably woke up to a fire. I was judging his reaction pretty harshly to it all, but I gotta say, there's a lot of faults in everyone's contributions to this discussion, including mine i'm sure lol.
The video of the druid "Snap" is here. I used TH-cams "" frame by frame... the snap is not a snap at all, there are 3 dropped or frozen frames in the video, either from encoding or rendering. If you go frame by frame it becomes clear as day that the video is frozen and either a recording or the VOD it is ripped from is has some dropped or frozen frames out of sync with the live gameplay. The jarring nature of the visuals is the video catching back up. th-cam.com/video/IjpJXQtNIlc/w-d-xo.html
This kind of stuff is always messy.... even to react to, especially when it's "breaking" drama/news, and that doesn't exonerate Dimo of all possibility or anything, just doesn't seem likely here. I got a lot of respect for you posting a follow up like this so quickly AND digging into it further yourself even after you'd posted your piece because realistically you didn't have to do that.
This was a great find, 3 frozen frames for sure, this clears up any doubt about the aimbot for me, though I don't think there's enough evidence for or against ESP yet.
dimo plays on laptop and wifi. also his space is constantly full which makes his machine stutter alot, this is why he can't stream, his hardware is simply not there for it.
It's clear to anyone that has good aim he's not using aimbot, even if it wasn't an encoding issue microflicks can look jarring sometimes at 60fps anyways depending on what frames happen to be captured. If I do a really fast flick and record it at 240fps there will be clear movement of the crosshair when slowed down, if I record a super fast flick at 60fps and slow it down it will look much more snappy.
@@aydellik except someone with 4500 hours still has the potential to mistake PvE footsteps for player footsteps, especially if it is literally one footstep. If you watch a lot of Dimo's videos (or really anyones), I can guarantee you that you'll hear them say at least once, probably multiple times, some sort of "oh those are mob footsteps". I've got 500 hours and I also make that mistake from time to time. When you're in high alert, sometimes the simplest sounds can be mistaken as player sounds.
@@aydellik ur wrong. expecting someone with any amount of hours to hear the differences between footsteps while in stealth in middle caves in normals in geared lobbies is insane
@@MrGettingHyped 4:16 is goblin footsteps if thats what you're referring to, even if the rogue was walking at that speed, and if the steps were audible, the rogue WOULDNT BE IN HIDE. you cant hear rogue footsteps when they are invis. the problem about the clip, which onepeg DOESNT SHOW bc he edited it out?? Is that Dimo commited to hearing a guy, before he was behind the pillar. saying "there's a guy up front." and this was before onepeg's preview of "player" footsteps.
Well if you say Dimo doesn’t cheat I believe you. In the grand scheme of things it’s whatever. He’s a TH-camr I don’t watch anymore. Hopefully something good, like actual anti heat will come of this, because this whole controversy shows how bad the player based reviewing system would be, as I, and many others, was convinced he was cheating.
That was a big problem with Wilson video, not enough proof. Couple things that could be sus for new players but I've been playing barb alot with axe mastery and I tend to snap when throwing franny axes. Also Dimo has over 4k hours into that game for sure hes gonna clap cheeks, he knows all classes behaviours. Sucks for Dimo he worked hard on his channel I really hope the allegations are fake cuz the community would go banana if there was actual proof of him cheating haha.
The first video I told him, "I scan left in right while hiding in a corner listening for players" and that I run Rust servers and look for cheaters regularly. There is way more to it.
For whatever reason Onepeg, I think you were way to quick to hop on the 'he's a cheater!' train on this one. The clips Wilson showed were too loose to be anything resembling proof of cheating. One or two were MAYBE suspicious, but they were only suspicious if it was consistent over dozens of encounters in the same way, and only when there is actually an enemy near by. I cannot tell you the number of times I have randomly stopped to listen because I heard some ambient noise, or weird echo a skeleton made, or the game didn't render a door/light, or a potion was on a shelf. The vast majority of the time it's nothing, but sometimes there actually is an enemy. Or the number of times I have made miraculous flicks with a bow or spell or sword. However these are all countered by the number of times I completely whiff into a wall. Detecting a cheater isn't just about suspicious good luck, but also about suspicious lack of bad luck. And I think that you completely ignored that in this case.
Dimo’s actions made perfect game sense in context. A lot of the aiming scenarios he’s aiming at someone through a door while strafing… like there’s only a small margin of width to even have your cursor pointed at. It’s more waiting for your opponent to walk into your line of sight.
I think on frame by frame inspection of uploaded videos that Dimo is in fact using tool assisted aim. There are MANY of his videos that you can slow down and watch frame by frame the un-natural movement being displayed that can only be explained by a program assisting or attempting to assist him. The weird axe throw, the footsteps and the capability to identify a person in the dark faster than ANYONE else could I can look past. But no one aims in the way that can be displayed. Onepeg I think you need to lower any bias and watch these things back. Dimo doesn't even display the normal qualities that good gamers have. The dude spends most of the game looking at the floor pixels until he left clicks.
I am neutral in this ****. Some obscure youtuber called out an other obscure content creator in an obscure game which is so niche that most gamers never heard about it, but at the same time gold sellers and cheaters are running rampant, while the dev are not implementing any meaningful measure. And yes, you can’t trust streamers, as there are cases when they were caught cheating live or even in pro play. Games should be played for entertainment and not as a way to measure our d****. People who cheat do it for money and fame as streamers, or because they were unloved by their parents and don’t have anything to be proud of, so a title in a stupid game means something for them.
What’s weird is in Wilson’s cheater vids he talks about how he thinks context is super important when cheater hunting and yet cuts out super important context💀
@@itherealykb1317 look for "toddfather Dimo" and come back xd, Wilson is a little newbie but more people started digging... tell me if u still thin is a witch hunt after the video i told u
Audio analyst here, I can provide actual evidence that there were no footsteps sounds. The only sounds that were made during that period were the goblins footsteps right below him, the one you can literally see in the video, and it makes its usual rawr sound as it moves. He heard nothing, he is cheating. edit: That "Step" you keep trying to spam on screen to get people to believe it is in fact the lifts last sound clip once it bangs against the top... It's not even remotely near the levels, the audio range, or anything of a footstep. Come on man, do better.
I ran into dimo once and i used basic baiting and dodges on him and i can tell you the only reason he kills people is because he always has a 5k or higher kit on. Definitely not cheating
I have reviewed a few clips of Dimo on my own, and he is simply to suspicious. There many fights where there is no audio ques for him to gather intel like he does. Iv seen him pre buff cool downs that are on timers before "randomly" finding people. It happens way to often. Its easy to add foot step audio to clips or even random noises recorded in other instances. If you want to be sure, just boot open a few videos and you will find suspicious content. When I watch someone like Y4mii for example, there is no doubt when I see his gameplay. The fact that there is always a bit of doubt in some of Dimo's videos is not enough make me believe he does implement cheats. I can review Jay footage all day and he never has this intuition that Dimo does, same for the Lor. Maybe Dimo is simply that much better..
@@ジェリー-k8d It is what it is. If you spend enough time looking for something you tend to have a bias. I could be entirely wrong, it barely matters anyway. Dimo doesn't make hurtful content anyway.
I don't think this dude cheats after seeing this, but just to explain AIMBOTS themselves as someone who has to deal with it all the time in another game - Many aimbots have different target points you can cycle through. many will change theirs to target hands, feet, torso, etc. to try to make it less obvious. Obviously doesn't seem to apply here, but figured the knowledge could help in the future. Shame on the first dude reporting on this for the disingenuous editing. I was already slightly on the fence on your first report because of his complaint on how he was using the Kris to attack. Movement through attacks like that has been a more common thing since like Playtest 3, where people realized you could move to the side on the same attack and hit multiple people with it. And by attacking at the side and then moving in for a hit, it can make it so people position/block wrong, allowing you to actually get in the hit you might not have otherwise.
first time i saw wilsons first cheating vid (not about dimo) it was maybe legit, cause a lot of ppl whos cheating got rly strange names but the second or accusing dimo, feels like a witch hunt cause he was once killed by a cheater or somethingg like this, idk, i mean yea its a bad feeling, but accusing ppl without real evidence is rly stupid to get clicks and content honestly im rly rly tired of all the drama some ppl trying to do for content dimo got like 3k hours on dark and darker, and maybe not every build goes like he shows, but maybe cause the lack of experience like me i can only speak from other game experience cause im only like 100 hours in dark and darker, if u got 3k hours, ure cautious on every step, noice or fight u hear, so theres nothing strange about this, and the axe, sometimes things like this happens, ure trying to fight and dont even know that theres a person behind the wall wish u guys still a nice day and a good time :D
In Wilson's video, he says that he's competing directly w/ Dimo for TH-cam views - so he obviously has a conflict of interest here. He also says that he waited to see if Dimo would put him in a video and shout him out before doing anything... Why do that if Dimo's a cheater who needs to be exposed? This Wilson guy is definitely not being on the level with us.
That's a dumb take away IMO - Wilson even says he liked Dimo or would have wanted a good clip for youtube win or lose. I think most content creators have an understanding both can exist and that there is enough views for both.
@@dotapazappy Well to be fair one thing that sticks out to me is dimo sent wilson a screenshot of someone commenting that dimo was cheating on one of his videos. A week or 2 later wilson drops this and includes that discord message in his video. Idk man that comes off really snakey to me which is weird because wilson really doesn't give off that vibe normally. If they were cool enough to be sending eachother funny comments in discord dms why couldn't he just talk to dimo first like a normal person?
thank you for this video, i seen the clips, they weren't close enought to "aimbot" in my opinion, you can see his sens almost seems to high but hes used to it...
He heard a wizard to the left, and instantly walked to the other side of the room where there was a stealthed rogue... right. I'm not saying he's cheating but I'm not convinced he isn't either.
Good to see this from you man. As I said on your last one Wilson cut the clips so they were perfectly out of context to make him look bad, that doesn't happen accidentally 20 times, the dude knew what he was doing. Its scummy asf. Most of the stuff he was complaining about like how'd he know about the gear and how'd he know it was a barb and why was he dragging his mouse like that are all things that people who have invested enough time and effort in the game can explain and dismiss, easily. Dudes cracked with crazy hours and he uses all the knowledge he has at his disposal to better prepare for fights, everyone /should/ do that. I feel like this was a blatant witch hunt, and he should be punished for the damage he has caused dimo's channel and reputation, and all the death threats and hate he has received over his video.
nothing to me looked suspicions but one instance and it was when the guy shapeshifted and the reticle seemed to track the shift, but upon looking at some of my snapping vids at 30fps it does seem to not catch the quick adjustment.. and the strafe fran throw is jus what anyone would do in any fps with a throwable
Cheats are more sofisticated right now and it's hard to diference between a good player and a cheater. I saw so many videos of Dimo that was really shock about wilson alegations... Never saw something weird on his gameplay and having so many videos it would be imposible to hide a esp or aimbot. Im pretty shure that in so many hours of a good player u are going to get some random "wallhack" or "aimbot" timing's. Im pretty shure the rest of the person's that wilson was spect had esp xD
Nah that's still weird. He hears a wizard to the left in a nearby room so he....makes a beeline to a sneaking rogue in the middle of the room? Doesn't really add up whether he hears footsteps after that point or not. He clearly already knows there is a rogue there and that he's geared.
its obvious hes cheating, you can just watch his videos and his aim snaps and he always knows where everyone is. He makes an hour long rambling response video where he doesn't get to any suspicious clips and just says "lol get guud" watch?v=3zf63jngc00 @23:06 undeniable proof of aimhack if slowed frame by frame, you can literally see the moment it goes from normal human aim and then instant snap onto target robot aim
@@ArguablyTheWorstName checks out, you are one of the players in question that needs to get good. Massive shame that morons like you who likely started playing two months ago get to voice their opinion on anything about this game.
@@dabberino That does NOT look completely normal, for you to even say that makes me believe you know nothing, if its not aim lock when hes hitting the rat he must of had a frame drop when he attacked him, one or the other
honestly the kris dagger part looks exactly like he's swiping the mouse left to right and cheat software is correcting it while the hitbox is active. I think wilson may have been wrong about some of the clips but I still think that he's a bit sus. We should not be attacking Wilson because of his opinion and it's really unprofessional of ironmace to ban him from the discord.
nope, it's literally a technique to hit them even if you miss, you can spam swing across the screen to make your weapon hit. even if you miss, if your fast enough you can swing it across the screen and still maybe land, thanks for letting us all know you're a noob though ;D and the backlash he will have to deal with is very much deserved.
@@Turusolight yep, it's just regular ol swing manip and because this game doesn't rely on actual physics for it's combat you get wonky things where you can just swing at the air then quickly turn and hit 3 targets in the head if you want as long as you do it during the active frames of the animation. If there was a physics system for the weapons then you'd have to be smarter about your weapon placement but as it stands now you can just circle around a shield mid swing and that shit hits em in the face lmao
Your first video seems more human or genuine. This sems like a script or something you are being told to say. Your body language and facial expression seems off to me. Did SDF or Greysun say something to you?
stay in your own lane homie. I respect you as a tarkov streamer, but for DND nah, I dont got that kind of trust for you lol. Dimo at the very least uses some form of ESP, and its very evident. I've been playing this game since basically alpha 1, so have my homies, we've all played in the top brass of the game, we've ran into countless hackers. The panther hop, definitely was correction, idc what anyone says. If someone did that in tarkov everyone would lose their shit. Same with the information that he magically has at alot of points. The rogue clip was bad, the other examples were solid.
Lol glad this video exists, as I was watching Wilsongames video I thought it was pretty weak and edited to make it look worse, while taking lot's of stuff out of context. I was constantly thinking, "What if the footsteps happened 20 seconds ago and this dude just edited it out?" Plus, Wilson argued that Dimo was just too perfect at all times, which is hilarious, bc his goal is to create a good video. He's obviously not gonna include deaths or him getting pwned. Wilson also seems to think that microcorrections and flicking = aimbot. Most people say don't send hate to other TH-camrs, but this guy should delete his channel and his video should be disliked into the nether.
Seems like one of those cases where when someone has played a game for long enough they are bound to have some suspicious looking moments, when really its mostly game jank and coincidence. Back when I used to watch a lot of CSGO cheating reviews they would say that a lot of what people think is cheating is just a crazy coincidence or a much better player.
Onepeg, definitely appreciate you going the extra mile to look at both sides of this and actually looking for said videos. I enjoy Dimo's content and watch his videos a lot almost as much as I watch yours!
this video aged well huh... onepeg your a casual, maybe don't do in depth analysis on clips like this again you have no place in this unfortunately, ANY good player I know or know of sees that he's blatant as fuck its not even a conversation to have. maybe leave videos like this to people who know what they are talking about g.
(THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE FOR WILSON.) but its interesting how onepeg calls out wilson for taking things out of context when the edit at 4:12 cuts out the movement choices that Dimo does, which is the the OPPOSITE DIRECTION of the wizard he heard, and then Dimo uses his abilities prematurely because he claims he heard foot steps. 4:16 is actually GOBLIN footsteps that came from below. they were NOT player footsteps, any sane DaD player knows this. Even if they were player footsteps, at the time stamp, Dimo is too close to the rogue to justify NOT SEEING AND hearing the rogue at the same time (he is literally next to him at that very moment.) THE PART THAT ONEPEG EDITED OUT: there was no footsteps other than a SINGLE skull crunch sound as if something were walking on a pile of bones. (6:42 on dimos video) Dimo says " Gotta be a little bit careful." Right when Dimo says "Gotta" you can hear a faint skull crunch sound. Now idk if there is bone piles in the top floor of Elevator room, but there is some down below. Regardless, if i heard that sound, i would expect anyone anywhere. which is justifiable. Now the part I DONT UNDERSTAND, is why Dimo called out someone was "front," when the video only provides a SINGLE footstep that COULD be made by a player. (bc again, mobs can make the skull crunch sound on bone piles as well as players [I think].) idc how loud you turn up your volume, it is VERY difficult to hear anything other than the elevator itself, goblin footsteps and grunt down below, when Dimo calls out "There's a guy up front." then another hypocrisy onepeg does, IS NOT PROVIDE THE ORGIANL SOURCE. (currently Dimo's vid is not in the description of this video.) I don't think Onepeg's explanation makes this case clear, just sucks that Onepeg didn't really show much of what was suspicious in the first place. It's hard to say that Dimo isn't cheating, but Innocent until proven guilty. Other clips however, are more sus than this one. Either way, Ironmace needs to better their anti cheat, bc it has gotten so far out of hand, its hard NOT to see a cheater in almost every game.
This just looks like a simple case of view farming from Wilson. Make a bs argument with a very well clipped video to paint Dimo as a cheat. Dude isn’t even good at the game and uses his “knowledge and expertise” to point out cheaters.
The only video I saw that looked actually sus was the mouse snapping during the druid transformations, but then again, we weren't shown raw footage persay so who knows why it looked that way
i used to like Wilson for those stories, but now i really dislike what he is doing and this was the last video i will ever see from him. already unsubscribed
Shh don't say that, you can't use truth there, that doesn't fit the streamers/youtubers narrative. So nobody cheat especially not streamers, and content creators are totally not biased. He won't make a video about that trust me.
@@1LotusNoir Yeah, I don't buy it. You will see content creators complain about ESP when they die to shit half as sus as what dimo does. But suddenly when it's another streamer "we need more conclusive proof blah blah blah, he's just really good etc."... Maybe I'm just cynical but I think other content creators are going to defend dimo because it benefits them to do so/
@@jimjimson6208 yeah, I personally hate this "mutual responsibility" thing about ANY CC. They will defend each other and damage control at all cost for any REAL violations. But if someone SAID smth inappropriate, then its time for cancel culture my dudes. Its so disgusting like you can manipulate people, lie whatever you want for a sake of clickbait, BUT you cant say that such CC done smth wrong, its a big no-no here.
@@jimjimson6208Yeah man that’s extremely pessimistic and a pretty sad outlook to have. You think every content creator has some conspiracy to defend cheating at large? That’s a wild take my guy. Would hate to hear how you view the rest of the world 😂
LOL this. Banned from his stream also by some white knight who wants to give him a reach around. Imagine finding the need to upload videos that are already published by someone else just to grab views. Feels bad man.
Wilson has this immature tinge of narcissism bating from his breath when he speaks, I swear the man grew up in a sheltered environment and thinks he's a god for winning when life already gave him high base character stats. Whether or not he's aware of it is another thing, I think he is and is holding onto old aspects of his character and personality.
Hey Onepeg, I know you have your Twitch link in the channel description text, but could you add it to the list of links so that it would be clickable? It's in TH-cam Studio -> (on the left side) Customization -> Basic Info (tab) -> Links (section) -> Add link (button) -> add your Twitch link in there, it will show up in your channel description/about page and actually be clickable.
Someone can’t even be good at a game anymore without everyone automatically calling cheats. The man has half a year of in game time. Of course he’s going to make good plays that look suspicious and of course he is going to have a hell of a lot more game knowledge than your average player
The amount of times i've been called out for cheating in Valorant because I shoot through smokes and prefire common angles or walls is a lot. I've been playing since day 3 of closed beta (4½ years) and i've never had the best aim, but my game sense and prediction is pretty damn good I would say. If someone smokes an entrance and I spray the common spots behind it, that's good game sense. If someone was sitting around a common corner and/or they sat there before and I died or killed them, imma prefire. A whole ton of my gameplay can look sus without the context of me as a player so I see nothing wrong with Dimo's gameplay. He's a good player with thousands of hours, you get spidey senses for shit at a certain point. Doesn't mean he can't be cheating, but with everything in this video, I just don't see it.
Dropped frames. Watch the hands of the player character model, watch the environment...look everywhere BUT the crosshair and you'll see there should be more frames of animation happening between the jumps. Aimbots don't make both you and your opponent skip animations in sync. Encoding lag does.
@@justrevel3086 over 400 hours. cute. you better stop commenting. it's very embarrassing. You clearly don't have enough experience to judge anything related to this game.
Wilson did it on purpose, he cut content to make it look like Dimo is cheating, it’s not a fluke it’s an attack, he even said that Dimo is direct competition.
This situation doesn't even concern you and if the allegations really carried no weight then you really wouldn't be going to this much trouble to validate them.
6:35 If he didnt wanted to throw the axe away, why did he did he looked back and threw it after he canceled the animation at first place. Watch closely, >He throws first one >Draws second one (hold LMB) >cancels it (F) >turns back >throws with jump to the perfect height where a player could crouch behind pillar He already canceled the throw. Than activated the throw again. after that, as such an aggrassive player, he falls back and positions himself so god damn good as if he knew there was a second player behind him. and he looks at the middle of two players WHERE before he saw second player behind pillar. That guy is cheating.
@OnePeg One thing you said in the other video was “I asked around the community. Jay, skinny Pete none of us knew who he was” which is impossible because skinny Pete did a collab video with Dimo the day before all this went down. How is that then?
Hackusation videos are one of the lowest forms of content imo. Its generally conjecture at best. Good on you for taking your own time clearing these false accusations up.
I don't watch Dimo due to him just being generally uninteresting and he plays with toxic people. Whether they're cheating or not will be sorted out by Ironmace. Dimo's response video starting off with retaliatory commentary comes off like standard politician deflecting to me, which is the point I stopped caring to watch his response. Cheater or not he's just doubled down on my choice to not watch him and I'm already tired of hearing about this everywhere.
What the heck are you talking about. He plays solo for the most part. And he is right to be mad, someone is coming for his neck on his game and job. It's fair to be mad and he has every right if the claims are false or weak. As they were
@@ripperfisher182250 Dawg his response video was the worst shit i've ever seen. It was just him rambling and ranting about views and not even talking properly about the points wilson made. Idfc if he's cheating or not that shit was unbearable, 57 fucking minutes
@@Azphyre the Wilson video was so half baked and poorly made itself, including the bad idea to make clips with little context and without the pure audio. And dropped frames in his panther "aimbot" that made it look more SUS. Dimo is right to be mad. It's serious allegations for him and his grind. It wasn't a good video on his part either. But when you face such lies and defamation you are often unhappy
bruh, u just reviewed the worst clips xd look for toddfather video, the judgement play and the tracking for bow on the fighter... im sorry if u know Dimo but he is 100% cheating, look for those clips, dont go showing these jokes xd we all know Wilson doesnt know much about it, but when u dig up... i think the role of Wilson was open the conversation, but Dimo is actually cheating
I've privated the reaction video to the Wilson v. Dimo situation as I feel as though, after looking a LOT more into it, the initial reaction (which is what it was and was what I posted) wasn't in-depth enough to paint an accurate picture. The follow-up video regarding my feelings on Dimo NOT cheating is what I believe to be right.
To Dimo: if you see this, I want to apologize for sounding like it was a flex for saying you were a "nobody". My point, which I failed to get across, was to say (and I did at the end of my video which I don't think most people saw) that WE are BOTH relative unknowns. For that reason, it doesn't make sense to slag someone with your level of notoriety in a niche video game on speculation, which could ruin you before you even get started. It came off like I was trying to say "I'm more important" when really I was trying to say "no one is this important", especially not for the kind of negative attention you got from this.
I started watching your videos recently, same with Dimo, and I'm so glad you did your due diligence to check the source material yourself. Highly respectable. It shows you understand the _responsibilities_ associated with being a creator, with a platform. Bravo sir.
PS. W Onepeg, W Dimo.
Did turn off the initial video from yours a third through because of this but not thinking it through / wording wrong can happen ❣️ speaking out of my experience that looking at clips without context can lead to drama / or a wrong perception of your persona 😅 great move by you for owning up to it and apologizing to dimo! Thanks for always keeping the community up to date keep it up and take care everyone ❤️
this shows how damaging can be a video like the one Wilson did. Even you, who usually does due dilligence can fall for such an accusation when not having the whole context and being mislead with wrong information. Imagine now that 99% of the viewers on the internet do not have your critical thinking ability and fall for such crap. It is so sad. Really nice that you correct your mistakes! Cheers and keep up the good work.
Saved my sub with this video man good on you
th-cam.com/video/EDgfOp1QOSs/w-d-xo.html
This aged well.
Onepeg losing credibility tbh. He gives the "news" from patchnotes. That's all he's good at. If he can't tell the difference between legit gameplay, and obvious cheating, then I can't take him seriously. This channel is just patch notes in video form, and that is it. Everything else he speaks on should be taken with a pinch of salt.
@@tj8606 The only "credibility" he ever had was favoritism. He got his name in Tarkov by meat riding and then he did the same over here and got a leg up because the devs knew him from his tarkov riding days. A useful mouthpiece
@@tj8606 He doesn't even talk about 90 percent of the changes in patches, dude just reads the notes to his chat
what proof is there
HHAAHAHHA true
Aging like milk.
Can't wait to see this drama on the Dark and Darker iceberg in 5 years
I was thinking the same lmaoo
I feel bad for you if you think this games gonna be around in 5 years with people like this leading the charge
The panther clip at 1:40 is 100% cheating.
A frame perfect prediction snap to a panther's head mid transformation. It's not even hyperbole either; the crosshair literally skips frames to the panther's head the literal instant the druid transforms.
No pro can do that. Nobody can do that by accident.
That is a machine input.
But you still had to say shit like:
"Wilson was a pretty smart dude....until now"
You were a pretty smart dude until you spent 10 minutes talking about everything BUT the most obvious example shown in the video.
The cherry on top is when you would say things like "nothing in the entire video", while never addressing that moment.
this, Dimo is cheating right in front of everyone very eyes and people would rather pretend there's no real proof.
Yikes, ironmace employee lying to defend a cheater? Very cool.
Graysun is not even a developer ROFL
Apparently he does...
Bro you are wrong in so many ways... dimo is a closet cheater
he is 100% cheating just killed me in duos watched his whole game. he has ESP. looked through walls . He knew where everyone was at
100% bro hes cheating, anyone who says otherwise is delusional asf.
@@mis8866 you have 200 hours in the game pls stfu :-D
The worst part is that the damage is already done. Even if he retracts and apologizes to dimo, reddit and the casual player base will always call dimo a cheater now. Cutting out important clip context is also disgusting behavior to be honest
Will you be posting dark and darker content?
@@Benni259 My dad channel is gigaboonkies
Thats not true, I thought Dimo was cheating before the video came out and when it came out I was hit hard by confirmation bias. After seeing this guy talk on it twice I'm way more receptive to believing he's not cheating.
I think if anything Willson will have ruined his rep way more than Dimos would have been ruined.
Which is why I had stated it only harms
Zip tie? Do u also have a secret dark and darker channel like red? I loved all the stuff u did with grumpy
OnePeg pulling a moist critical with muliple vids in a day
Always do 😂
"New dimo situation is crazy"
@@MANTISxByou ok?
[Timestamps based on Wilson's video]
I am not the end all be all of cheat detection but I like to be generally more cautious so here are my thoughts on the evidence in the video:
3:29 | The sheathed rogue (rogue one) made the mistake of turning off the lights in the area immediately surrounding him, the second rogue (rogue two) who walks into the room COULD have seen the turned off torches and decided to play cautiously around the obvious rogue landmine spot. Furthermore the second rogues reactions were all in time with the de-stealth and movement of rogue one. That giggle looking directly at the rogue is extremely suspect however, honestly wish that was in the preview clip at the start.
1:39 | The positioning of his mouse and the movement of it are all suspicious but not enough for me to feel confident in an aimbot accusation. They just feel like tracking that has been slowed down to half speed looking weird.
4:28 | If you watch the ORIGINAL video you can just barely hear the footsteps he mentions in the video if you replay 11:04-10:05 of New Patch Barbarian is OVERPOWERED | Solo PvP Build | Dark and Darker. So... ye he was honest he heard him.
4:54 | This is actually nothing, he doesn't lock on his cursor even moves PAST his stationary target.
5:45 | This one had me a believer until I actually dissected the clip. In the clip he charges a throw, tries to cancel (fails), jump dodges back and due to the charged axe throws it behind him where he was looking. If he was locking onto the person behind the pillar his aim would have been higher up, his aim doesn't snap and is aimed down like someone trying to jump dodge.
6:15 | High sensitivity gameplay... if he had aimbot it would aim for a consistent position like their head not generally towards them, that's how people aim.
7:40 | A high sensitivity (but very difficult) flick, this one could be aimbot because of the perfection of the tracking but Its also humanly possible so Hanlon's Razor applies.
7:50 | Suspicious gameplay but not too out of the ordinary for a cautious rogue player. Checks door
9:41 | After watching high skill PVPers like Jay, Repoze, etc its normal to rush to jail cause its the main hub for pvp for good players. The perfect tracking of the player is mildly suspicious but could be explained as cautious investigation.
10:30 | examining in lobby.... exists (this clip is dumb)
11:44 | This appears to me to be normal gameplay, he fights people, sees a fight and waits for them to finish, bumps into a player, retreats, bumps into a rogue, fights to escape
=-=-=-=-=
In the end I would say there is not enough evidence to prove a high likelihood of cheating, I would have recommended you send this to Graysun and ask for him to run a check (I have done this before if its a high profile player and you lay out your evidence the IM team will usually comply to some extent to check). If you have more evidence I recommend making a google doc where you lay out all the timestamps, but ultimately unless he streams its hard to prove as a content creator only posts content worthy clips. If @Dimo sees this and wants to share the raw video files for long strings of gameplay from any of these incidents I will happily sort through it to confirm/deny any likelihood of cheats but otherwise this point seems mute.
well put, i dont disagree with anything
@@shaunandrews6313 fast reader over ere :P
@@lordcollector indeed
@@lordcollector I would also add if you analyze what Wilson says and his attitude it seems rather defamatory in nature even though he is claiming the opposite. The title and description of the video contradicts his statements about making our own judgement throughout the video .
I agree with a lot of the points you've made and I fully think the likelihood of Dimo cheating is not any higher than just about any other player, none of these things seems all that suspicious to me. Being cautious of a dark spot is such a common thing, I think the fact that Wilson completely ignores that fact is almost certainly malicious. And Dimo's aim isn't nearly snappy enough to be a standard aimbot. It would have to be extremely intelligent aim assist.
aimbot does not have to be locked on to the chest/head..if you want it to aim at the legs you can. for you to say it does not make sense seems lack of common sense. b/c that feature can easily be used to look legit. so how does that not make sense to you? however i believe he was not using it for legs. rather upper portions. you were not showing the clips that wilson showed of the lock on, on druid transforming. easily the best footage of the aimlock snap. dude is a cheater. ppl are just going to be stupid and not want to accept. or cannot see blatant cheats.
Bro the Wilson video is so completely inconclusive I'm shocked you posted that 1st video
context was mega important and it was my fault for not going and hunting down his source material. won't happen again.
@@Onepeg Like you said in your first video. Your audience was asking you your opinion on the subject, so you went to watch and gave your input. I don't blame you in the least for giving a reaction to what your viewers kept asking you about. If anything, you earned my respect by digging deeper on your own and coming back with your own conclusions and sharing it in this second video. Good on you bro.
Conformation bias is real shit bro. He's made an error and made all effort to make it right. We're human.
@Onepeg Fair play to you owning your mistake
@@Onepeg I didn't like your first video because you were obviously swayed by the editing style instead of making your own conclusions but I guess I wasn't completely right.
You proved me wrong by ACTUALLY doing your own research and making a clear mistake right. For that I commend you.
I'm not convinced he isn't cheating. Having an aimbot that only snaps to centerline rather than snapping to head/torso would be much harder to detect visually, having the latter would probably be too obvious for a content creator...
Not to mention, snapping to centerline only (which doesn't have to be a hard snap btw) would be more useful in DaD anyway since there is so much drop to account for with projectiles.
Definitely cheating
Finally someone with good information and who have more contents for the comunity. thanks dude. Dimo does not deserve everything that is happening
Thank you for putting this video out there. I felt the same as many in watching Wilson's video right up until I watched Dimo's full response. It appears that Dimo is just a very good player and his videos are edited to focus on highlights and not full matches.
To me, Wilson should have never called Dimo out without having concrete evidence of cheating. Just because he doesn't understand something doesn't make it suspect.
ty for doing this tbh you can tell dimo's english isnt the best and hes already pretty shaken from this whole thing so his response vid was very unsatisfactory for alot of casual players 🙏 people have no idea how hard it is to explain every single thing that goes through your head especially when alot of these clips were weeks ago
I've tried really hard to stay on neither side of the fence, I just wanna say, good on you for making this. Regardless of the outcome, Dimo does _not_ deserve the death threats and hate he is getting over a video game. There is a _very good_ reason many other games have rules against public accusations in this fashion, and we unfortunately get to see the every aspect of why.
This discussion wouldn't even be happening if Ironmace's cheat detection was more reliable. This is ultimately on Ironmace - they need to improve their cheat detection so this paranoia doesn't sweep through the community.
Hard disagree. Huge companies barely get anticheat right. It wasnt right for one youtuber to go after another with little to no context and just burn them at the stake. With or without a bteer anticheat if this still happened the way it did people would have reacted the same way
the problem is there's no perfect anti-cheat, the most effective one are the ones nobody like because they're also the most invasive with kernel-level driver installed (valorant for exemple)
I really appreciate you going back to verify the work and now make a video soon after correcting, that’s very honorable
Literally the second the clip starts I heard movement on the left, then he calls it out 😂
Always watch u one peg but if you look at Dino’s newest video you can see how Wilson edited like 8 of Dimos videos to defame him I watch you and Dimo all day when I work when I’m home teach me so much about the game
I believe three things:
Wilson wants clout.
Wison doesnt know that game sense exists
Wilson doesnt know that pro gamers can flick and be good at aiming
As an even nobody-er nobody, I will withhold judgement until Iron Mace looks into it. There are a lot of things that can be argued one way or the other even in this video unfortunately, so I really think the only reasonable thing is for people to sit tight and wait for Iron Mace to launch an investigation. If Dimo has source footage or whatever Iron Mace needs to prove his innocence, cool, if not, that's not really his responsibility either. It unfortunately falls on Iron Mace's shoulders to figure it out as the community will always arm the offensive on cheaters especially when (even slightly) compelling evidence is put together. It's the natural reaction to oppose something like this and it's difficult to expect everyone to have a measured response, including Dimo who probably woke up to a fire.
I was judging his reaction pretty harshly to it all, but I gotta say, there's a lot of faults in everyone's contributions to this discussion, including mine i'm sure lol.
This happens in so many other gaming communities and it just makes me sad. This just hurts both parties involved
The video of the druid "Snap" is here. I used TH-cams "" frame by frame... the snap is not a snap at all, there are 3 dropped or frozen frames in the video, either from encoding or rendering. If you go frame by frame it becomes clear as day that the video is frozen and either a recording or the VOD it is ripped from is has some dropped or frozen frames out of sync with the live gameplay. The jarring nature of the visuals is the video catching back up.
th-cam.com/video/IjpJXQtNIlc/w-d-xo.html
This kind of stuff is always messy.... even to react to, especially when it's "breaking" drama/news, and that doesn't exonerate Dimo of all possibility or anything, just doesn't seem likely here. I got a lot of respect for you posting a follow up like this so quickly AND digging into it further yourself even after you'd posted your piece because realistically you didn't have to do that.
This was a great find, 3 frozen frames for sure, this clears up any doubt about the aimbot for me, though I don't think there's enough evidence for or against ESP yet.
dimo plays on laptop and wifi. also his space is constantly full which makes his machine stutter alot, this is why he can't stream, his hardware is simply not there for it.
It's clear to anyone that has good aim he's not using aimbot, even if it wasn't an encoding issue microflicks can look jarring sometimes at 60fps anyways depending on what frames happen to be captured. If I do a really fast flick and record it at 240fps there will be clear movement of the crosshair when slowed down, if I record a super fast flick at 60fps and slow it down it will look much more snappy.
@@grimmow187youre delusional
Slows the footstep down and its literally a goblins foot sounds from below lmao
That’s still enough to make me cautious if I’m not sure. Especially in HR
@@Herokiller21 except someone with 4500 hours isnt scared of pve, and knows the very distinct difference in pve footsteps and player footsteps
@@aydellik except someone with 4500 hours still has the potential to mistake PvE footsteps for player footsteps, especially if it is literally one footstep. If you watch a lot of Dimo's videos (or really anyones), I can guarantee you that you'll hear them say at least once, probably multiple times, some sort of "oh those are mob footsteps".
I've got 500 hours and I also make that mistake from time to time. When you're in high alert, sometimes the simplest sounds can be mistaken as player sounds.
@@aydellik ur wrong. expecting someone with any amount of hours to hear the differences between footsteps while in stealth in middle caves in normals in geared lobbies is insane
@@MrGettingHyped 4:16 is goblin footsteps if thats what you're referring to, even if the rogue was walking at that speed, and if the steps were audible, the rogue WOULDNT BE IN HIDE. you cant hear rogue footsteps when they are invis. the problem about the clip, which onepeg DOESNT SHOW bc he edited it out?? Is that Dimo commited to hearing a guy, before he was behind the pillar. saying "there's a guy up front." and this was before onepeg's preview of "player" footsteps.
Well if you say Dimo doesn’t cheat I believe you. In the grand scheme of things it’s whatever. He’s a TH-camr I don’t watch anymore. Hopefully something good, like actual anti heat will come of this, because this whole controversy shows how bad the player based reviewing system would be, as I, and many others, was convinced he was cheating.
He 100% threw the fran back to be able to pick up
That was a big problem with Wilson video, not enough proof. Couple things that could be sus for new players but I've been playing barb alot with axe mastery and I tend to snap when throwing franny axes. Also Dimo has over 4k hours into that game for sure hes gonna clap cheeks, he knows all classes behaviours. Sucks for Dimo he worked hard on his channel I really hope the allegations are fake cuz the community would go banana if there was actual proof of him cheating haha.
The first video I told him, "I scan left in right while hiding in a corner listening for players" and that I run Rust servers and look for cheaters regularly. There is way more to it.
For whatever reason Onepeg, I think you were way to quick to hop on the 'he's a cheater!' train on this one. The clips Wilson showed were too loose to be anything resembling proof of cheating. One or two were MAYBE suspicious, but they were only suspicious if it was consistent over dozens of encounters in the same way, and only when there is actually an enemy near by. I cannot tell you the number of times I have randomly stopped to listen because I heard some ambient noise, or weird echo a skeleton made, or the game didn't render a door/light, or a potion was on a shelf. The vast majority of the time it's nothing, but sometimes there actually is an enemy. Or the number of times I have made miraculous flicks with a bow or spell or sword. However these are all countered by the number of times I completely whiff into a wall.
Detecting a cheater isn't just about suspicious good luck, but also about suspicious lack of bad luck. And I think that you completely ignored that in this case.
This drama led me to your channel. Great breakdown. You earned a sub
Dimo’s actions made perfect game sense in context. A lot of the aiming scenarios he’s aiming at someone through a door while strafing… like there’s only a small margin of width to even have your cursor pointed at. It’s more waiting for your opponent to walk into your line of sight.
I think on frame by frame inspection of uploaded videos that Dimo is in fact using tool assisted aim. There are MANY of his videos that you can slow down and watch frame by frame the un-natural movement being displayed that can only be explained by a program assisting or attempting to assist him. The weird axe throw, the footsteps and the capability to identify a person in the dark faster than ANYONE else could I can look past. But no one aims in the way that can be displayed. Onepeg I think you need to lower any bias and watch these things back. Dimo doesn't even display the normal qualities that good gamers have. The dude spends most of the game looking at the floor pixels until he left clicks.
I am neutral in this ****. Some obscure youtuber called out an other obscure content creator in an obscure game which is so niche that most gamers never heard about it, but at the same time gold sellers and cheaters are running rampant, while the dev are not implementing any meaningful measure.
And yes, you can’t trust streamers, as there are cases when they were caught cheating live or even in pro play. Games should be played for entertainment and not as a way to measure our d****. People who cheat do it for money and fame as streamers, or because they were unloved by their parents and don’t have anything to be proud of, so a title in a stupid game means something for them.
Dimo is clean, just a goat on D and D
What’s weird is in Wilson’s cheater vids he talks about how he thinks context is super important when cheater hunting and yet cuts out super important context💀
it's 100% a witch hunt to try to get more exposure...Wilson is complete trash at the game and he's just salty
@@itherealykb1317 look for "toddfather Dimo" and come back xd, Wilson is a little newbie but more people started digging... tell me if u still thin is a witch hunt after the video i told u
Audio analyst here, I can provide actual evidence that there were no footsteps sounds. The only sounds that were made during that period were the goblins footsteps right below him, the one you can literally see in the video, and it makes its usual rawr sound as it moves. He heard nothing, he is cheating.
edit: That "Step" you keep trying to spam on screen to get people to believe it is in fact the lifts last sound clip once it bangs against the top... It's not even remotely near the levels, the audio range, or anything of a footstep. Come on man, do better.
watch the fuck out guys, the audio analyst is here!!!
@@niac2117 defending cheaters is cringe, do better.
@@NeopopulistIs this in reference to the source video on Dimo's channel, or Wilson's incredibly quiet background video?
I ran into dimo once and i used basic baiting and dodges on him and i can tell you the only reason he kills people is because he always has a 5k or higher kit on. Definitely not cheating
@@chasekangaroo9569 but he is
I have reviewed a few clips of Dimo on my own, and he is simply to suspicious. There many fights where there is no audio ques for him to gather intel like he does. Iv seen him pre buff cool downs that are on timers before "randomly" finding people. It happens way to often. Its easy to add foot step audio to clips or even random noises recorded in other instances. If you want to be sure, just boot open a few videos and you will find suspicious content.
When I watch someone like Y4mii for example, there is no doubt when I see his gameplay. The fact that there is always a bit of doubt in some of Dimo's videos is not enough make me believe he does implement cheats. I can review Jay footage all day and he never has this intuition that Dimo does, same for the Lor. Maybe Dimo is simply that much better..
even y4mi says dimo aint a cheater so there u go
@@ジェリー-k8d It is what it is. If you spend enough time looking for something you tend to have a bias. I could be entirely wrong, it barely matters anyway. Dimo doesn't make hurtful content anyway.
@@ジェリー-k8dI'm sick of opinions IM needs to investigate. Not these fucking worthless youtuber opinions. Wind up having private HR lobbies again.
you either don't like dimo or skill issue, but trying to mask that as he cheats is so slimy and dishonest.
@@Turusolight I'm just saying what I saw on my own. It's really not that controversial.
I don't think this dude cheats after seeing this, but just to explain AIMBOTS themselves as someone who has to deal with it all the time in another game - Many aimbots have different target points you can cycle through. many will change theirs to target hands, feet, torso, etc. to try to make it less obvious.
Obviously doesn't seem to apply here, but figured the knowledge could help in the future.
Shame on the first dude reporting on this for the disingenuous editing. I was already slightly on the fence on your first report because of his complaint on how he was using the Kris to attack. Movement through attacks like that has been a more common thing since like Playtest 3, where people realized you could move to the side on the same attack and hit multiple people with it. And by attacking at the side and then moving in for a hit, it can make it so people position/block wrong, allowing you to actually get in the hit you might not have otherwise.
first time i saw wilsons first cheating vid (not about dimo) it was maybe legit, cause a lot of ppl whos cheating got rly strange names
but the second or accusing dimo, feels like a witch hunt cause he was once killed by a cheater or somethingg like this, idk, i mean yea its a bad feeling, but accusing ppl
without real evidence is rly stupid to get clicks and content
honestly im rly rly tired of all the drama some ppl trying to do for content
dimo got like 3k hours on dark and darker, and maybe not every build goes like he shows, but maybe cause the lack of experience like me
i can only speak from other game experience cause im only like 100 hours in dark and darker, if u got 3k hours, ure cautious on every step, noice or fight u hear, so theres nothing strange about this, and the axe, sometimes things like this happens, ure trying to fight and dont even know that theres a person behind the wall
wish u guys still a nice day and a good time :D
In Wilson's video, he says that he's competing directly w/ Dimo for TH-cam views - so he obviously has a conflict of interest here.
He also says that he waited to see if Dimo would put him in a video and shout him out before doing anything... Why do that if Dimo's a cheater who needs to be exposed?
This Wilson guy is definitely not being on the level with us.
That's a dumb take away IMO - Wilson even says he liked Dimo or would have wanted a good clip for youtube win or lose. I think most content creators have an understanding both can exist and that there is enough views for both.
@@dotapazappy Well to be fair one thing that sticks out to me is dimo sent wilson a screenshot of someone commenting that dimo was cheating on one of his videos. A week or 2 later wilson drops this and includes that discord message in his video. Idk man that comes off really snakey to me which is weird because wilson really doesn't give off that vibe normally. If they were cool enough to be sending eachother funny comments in discord dms why couldn't he just talk to dimo first like a normal person?
thanks for clearing this up onepeg, I was wondering myself to be honest. Since Tarkov, youve been a GREAT content creator!
Appreciate you going the extra mile here.
Nah because he was one of the reasons he got so much hate in the first place, no one understands onepeg blew this up so much more
@@jameswilliams5054 People 100% do understand this, that's why this video exists, and seems to me like the previous video has been unlisted.
thank you for this video, i seen the clips, they weren't close enought to "aimbot" in my opinion, you can see his sens almost seems to high but hes used to it...
He heard a wizard to the left, and instantly walked to the other side of the room where there was a stealthed rogue... right. I'm not saying he's cheating but I'm not convinced he isn't either.
It made him cautious on top of the dead bodies and the triggered elevator. There’s no reason why you wouldn’t be.
holy reach batman
@@Onepeg you are so bad at this game its hillarious, please stop pretending like you input ia valid
@@daemorax21 who are you??
@daemorax21 nice ragebait stfu now
Good to see this from you man. As I said on your last one Wilson cut the clips so they were perfectly out of context to make him look bad, that doesn't happen accidentally 20 times, the dude knew what he was doing. Its scummy asf. Most of the stuff he was complaining about like how'd he know about the gear and how'd he know it was a barb and why was he dragging his mouse like that are all things that people who have invested enough time and effort in the game can explain and dismiss, easily. Dudes cracked with crazy hours and he uses all the knowledge he has at his disposal to better prepare for fights, everyone /should/ do that. I feel like this was a blatant witch hunt, and he should be punished for the damage he has caused dimo's channel and reputation, and all the death threats and hate he has received over his video.
nothing to me looked suspicions but one instance and it was when the guy shapeshifted and the reticle seemed to track the shift, but upon looking at some of my snapping vids at 30fps it does seem to not catch the quick adjustment.. and the strafe fran throw is jus what anyone would do in any fps with a throwable
I appreciate you actually taking the time to go over it again 😅 I was surprised at the first one.
Cheats are more sofisticated right now and it's hard to diference between a good player and a cheater.
I saw so many videos of Dimo that was really shock about wilson alegations...
Never saw something weird on his gameplay and having so many videos it would be imposible to hide a esp or aimbot.
Im pretty shure that in so many hours of a good player u are going to get some random "wallhack" or "aimbot" timing's.
Im pretty shure the rest of the person's that wilson was spect had esp xD
Nah that's still weird. He hears a wizard to the left in a nearby room so he....makes a beeline to a sneaking rogue in the middle of the room? Doesn't really add up whether he hears footsteps after that point or not. He clearly already knows there is a rogue there and that he's geared.
its obvious hes cheating, you can just watch his videos and his aim snaps and he always knows where everyone is. He makes an hour long rambling response video where he doesn't get to any suspicious clips and just says "lol get guud"
watch?v=3zf63jngc00 @23:06 undeniable proof of aimhack if slowed frame by frame, you can literally see the moment it goes from normal human aim and then instant snap onto target robot aim
@@ArguablyTheWorstName checks out, you are one of the players in question that needs to get good. Massive shame that morons like you who likely started playing two months ago get to voice their opinion on anything about this game.
@@ArguablyTheWorst From the time stamp you provided it looks completely normal. In no way is that aimhack.
@@dabberino That does NOT look completely normal, for you to even say that makes me believe you know nothing, if its not aim lock when hes hitting the rat he must of had a frame drop when he attacked him, one or the other
sounds like a skill issue problem to me buddy.
honestly the kris dagger part looks exactly like he's swiping the mouse left to right and cheat software is correcting it while the hitbox is active. I think wilson may have been wrong about some of the clips but I still think that he's a bit sus. We should not be attacking Wilson because of his opinion and it's really unprofessional of ironmace to ban him from the discord.
nope, it's literally a technique to hit them even if you miss, you can spam swing across the screen to make your weapon hit. even if you miss, if your fast enough you can swing it across the screen and still maybe land, thanks for letting us all know you're a noob though ;D and the backlash he will have to deal with is very much deserved.
@@Turusolight yep, it's just regular ol swing manip and because this game doesn't rely on actual physics for it's combat you get wonky things where you can just swing at the air then quickly turn and hit 3 targets in the head if you want as long as you do it during the active frames of the animation.
If there was a physics system for the weapons then you'd have to be smarter about your weapon placement but as it stands now you can just circle around a shield mid swing and that shit hits em in the face lmao
Your first video seems more human or genuine. This sems like a script or something you are being told to say. Your body language and facial expression seems off to me. Did SDF or Greysun say something to you?
bro what? are you high?
@@OnepegOn Meth, maybe. Couldn't be the Gaian Ganjular Goodness.
stay in your own lane homie. I respect you as a tarkov streamer, but for DND nah, I dont got that kind of trust for you lol.
Dimo at the very least uses some form of ESP, and its very evident. I've been playing this game since basically alpha 1, so have my homies, we've all played in the top brass of the game, we've ran into countless hackers. The panther hop, definitely was correction, idc what anyone says. If someone did that in tarkov everyone would lose their shit. Same with the information that he magically has at alot of points. The rogue clip was bad, the other examples were solid.
Still time to delete this video
Lol glad this video exists, as I was watching Wilsongames video I thought it was pretty weak and edited to make it look worse, while taking lot's of stuff out of context. I was constantly thinking, "What if the footsteps happened 20 seconds ago and this dude just edited it out?" Plus, Wilson argued that Dimo was just too perfect at all times, which is hilarious, bc his goal is to create a good video. He's obviously not gonna include deaths or him getting pwned. Wilson also seems to think that microcorrections and flicking = aimbot. Most people say don't send hate to other TH-camrs, but this guy should delete his channel and his video should be disliked into the nether.
Is this a reaction to the reaction of a reaction of some actions?
yes
lol yes
You just got another follower thanks for holding up for Dimo
Seems like one of those cases where when someone has played a game for long enough they are bound to have some suspicious looking moments, when really its mostly game jank and coincidence. Back when I used to watch a lot of CSGO cheating reviews they would say that a lot of what people think is cheating is just a crazy coincidence or a much better player.
So the whole argument can be summed up to that guy just needs to "GET GUD"? LOL
Onepeg, definitely appreciate you going the extra mile to look at both sides of this and actually looking for said videos. I enjoy Dimo's content and watch his videos a lot almost as much as I watch yours!
this video aged well huh... onepeg your a casual, maybe don't do in depth analysis on clips like this again you have no place in this unfortunately, ANY good player I know or know of sees that he's blatant as fuck its not even a conversation to have. maybe leave videos like this to people who know what they are talking about g.
Massive respect for going back and looking further into it and then correcting your previous video so quickly
(THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE FOR WILSON.) but its interesting how onepeg calls out wilson for taking things out of context when the edit at 4:12 cuts out the movement choices that Dimo does, which is the the OPPOSITE DIRECTION of the wizard he heard, and then Dimo uses his abilities prematurely because he claims he heard foot steps. 4:16 is actually GOBLIN footsteps that came from below. they were NOT player footsteps, any sane DaD player knows this. Even if they were player footsteps, at the time stamp, Dimo is too close to the rogue to justify NOT SEEING AND hearing the rogue at the same time (he is literally next to him at that very moment.)
THE PART THAT ONEPEG EDITED OUT: there was no footsteps other than a SINGLE skull crunch sound as if something were walking on a pile of bones. (6:42 on dimos video) Dimo says " Gotta be a little bit careful." Right when Dimo says "Gotta" you can hear a faint skull crunch sound. Now idk if there is bone piles in the top floor of Elevator room, but there is some down below. Regardless, if i heard that sound, i would expect anyone anywhere. which is justifiable.
Now the part I DONT UNDERSTAND, is why Dimo called out someone was "front," when the video only provides a SINGLE footstep that COULD be made by a player. (bc again, mobs can make the skull crunch sound on bone piles as well as players [I think].) idc how loud you turn up your volume, it is VERY difficult to hear anything other than the elevator itself, goblin footsteps and grunt down below, when Dimo calls out "There's a guy up front."
then another hypocrisy onepeg does, IS NOT PROVIDE THE ORGIANL SOURCE. (currently Dimo's vid is not in the description of this video.)
I don't think Onepeg's explanation makes this case clear, just sucks that Onepeg didn't really show much of what was suspicious in the first place.
It's hard to say that Dimo isn't cheating, but Innocent until proven guilty. Other clips however, are more sus than this one.
Either way, Ironmace needs to better their anti cheat, bc it has gotten so far out of hand, its hard NOT to see a cheater in almost every game.
@onepeg this
This just looks like a simple case of view farming from Wilson. Make a bs argument with a very well clipped video to paint Dimo as a cheat. Dude isn’t even good at the game and uses his “knowledge and expertise” to point out cheaters.
Can relate as one who fat fingers.
Surprised WG would put these videos out without concrete evidence
The only video I saw that looked actually sus was the mouse snapping during the druid transformations, but then again, we weren't shown raw footage persay so who knows why it looked that way
I miss Wilson games story videos
he seems good at making up stories
i used to like Wilson for those stories, but now i really dislike what he is doing and this was the last video i will ever see from him. already unsubscribed
Onepeg is a guy who would own a mistake and delete a full video he believed to be missinformed, love ya
Just finished you're last video slow down man
the work never stops bb
@@Onepeg o7 | honestly admirable to publish a correction so quickly
@409mythic7 why?
@@McMonkeyMan412 tbh idk why other than I wanted to comment something funny.
@@409mythic7 fair
I had a feeling the wideos were authentic 💪
I remember the drama in the dc, it was absolutely insane. I an glad it is calmed down now.
The anticheat is a joke.
You can open task manager, kill the anti cheat process and the game keeps running perfectly fine.
How about that?
Shh don't say that, you can't use truth there, that doesn't fit the streamers/youtubers narrative. So nobody cheat especially not streamers, and content creators are totally not biased. He won't make a video about that trust me.
@@1LotusNoir Yeah, I don't buy it. You will see content creators complain about ESP when they die to shit half as sus as what dimo does. But suddenly when it's another streamer "we need more conclusive proof blah blah blah, he's just really good etc."... Maybe I'm just cynical but I think other content creators are going to defend dimo because it benefits them to do so/
@@jimjimson6208maybe because its a content creator that's been doing this since the game came out and not some random level 15 kitted out
@@jimjimson6208 yeah, I personally hate this "mutual responsibility" thing about ANY CC. They will defend each other and damage control at all cost for any REAL violations. But if someone SAID smth inappropriate, then its time for cancel culture my dudes. Its so disgusting like you can manipulate people, lie whatever you want for a sake of clickbait, BUT you cant say that such CC done smth wrong, its a big no-no here.
@@jimjimson6208Yeah man that’s extremely pessimistic and a pretty sad outlook to have. You think every content creator has some conspiracy to defend cheating at large? That’s a wild take my guy. Would hate to hear how you view the rest of the world 😂
Not surprised Onepeg is getting involved. If there is clout to chase in the community, he's in there.
LOL this. Banned from his stream also by some white knight who wants to give him a reach around. Imagine finding the need to upload videos that are already published by someone else just to grab views. Feels bad man.
"I got killed by this guy and ruined my video. Lets make a hate compilation and try to ruin this guy." -Wilson 2024
Wilson has this immature tinge of narcissism bating from his breath when he speaks, I swear the man grew up in a sheltered environment and thinks he's a god for winning when life already gave him high base character stats. Whether or not he's aware of it is another thing, I think he is and is holding onto old aspects of his character and personality.
Hey Onepeg, I know you have your Twitch link in the channel description text, but could you add it to the list of links so that it would be clickable?
It's in TH-cam Studio -> (on the left side) Customization -> Basic Info (tab) -> Links (section) -> Add link (button) -> add your Twitch link in there, it will show up in your channel description/about page and actually be clickable.
I have commented like a mf but rectified after u told ur perspective indeed he dont cheat but the wilson vid was pretty well made ngl i got got
I don't even know who Dimo is lmao I'm just here to watch onepeg
Dimo is a great player but i can see how some plays are fishy. ive got 1600 hrs in the game i will say he's on a completely different level than me.
ye i mean hes triple ur hours which is already crazy ngl bro is just better
Someone can’t even be good at a game anymore without everyone automatically calling cheats. The man has half a year of in game time. Of course he’s going to make good plays that look suspicious and of course he is going to have a hell of a lot more game knowledge than your average player
The amount of times i've been called out for cheating in Valorant because I shoot through smokes and prefire common angles or walls is a lot. I've been playing since day 3 of closed beta (4½ years) and i've never had the best aim, but my game sense and prediction is pretty damn good I would say. If someone smokes an entrance and I spray the common spots behind it, that's good game sense. If someone was sitting around a common corner and/or they sat there before and I died or killed them, imma prefire. A whole ton of my gameplay can look sus without the context of me as a player so I see nothing wrong with Dimo's gameplay. He's a good player with thousands of hours, you get spidey senses for shit at a certain point. Doesn't mean he can't be cheating, but with everything in this video, I just don't see it.
I am still looking for an answer to his crosshair jumping to the panther almost the same frame his opp transforms from human.
his crosshair didnt even move
try playing on a laptop, wifi and full disc space. you will have a ton of frozen frames
Dropped frames. Watch the hands of the player character model, watch the environment...look everywhere BUT the crosshair and you'll see there should be more frames of animation happening between the jumps. Aimbots don't make both you and your opponent skip animations in sync. Encoding lag does.
I don't trust the guy at all, he talks like a cheater trying to cover it up. Oh well
He’s still sketchy but idk if there is enough proof
if you think it's sketchy i've got some bad news, skill issue son.
Yeah generally anyone who finds Dimo suspicious has less than 200 hours in this game
@@minhtrivu4728 I have over 400 idk what that has to do with anything watch the video yourself and make your own educated guess
@@justrevel3086 over 400 hours. cute. you better stop commenting. it's very embarrassing. You clearly don't have enough experience to judge anything related to this game.
@@justrevel3086 skill issues buddy...git gud
Wilson did it on purpose, he cut content to make it look like Dimo is cheating, it’s not a fluke it’s an attack, he even said that Dimo is direct competition.
Whether or not Dimo is actually a cheater, y'all shouldn't be hating on a guy this hard just for sharing his opinion.
The only part that had to be dissected is not even present. wtf
the cheaters always band together
This situation doesn't even concern you and if the allegations really carried no weight then you really wouldn't be going to this much trouble to validate them.
Innocent until proven guilty, and nothing brought up is anything but inconclusive.
6:35
If he didnt wanted to throw the axe away, why did he did he looked back and threw it after he canceled the animation at first place.
Watch closely,
>He throws first one
>Draws second one (hold LMB)
>cancels it (F)
>turns back
>throws with jump to the perfect height where a player could crouch behind pillar
He already canceled the throw. Than activated the throw again.
after that, as such an aggrassive player, he falls back and positions himself so god damn good as if he knew there was a second player behind him.
and he looks at the middle of two players WHERE before he saw second player behind pillar.
That guy is cheating.
very stupid and convicted for no legitimate reason as usual😂
@OnePeg One thing you said in the other video was “I asked around the community. Jay, skinny Pete none of us knew who he was” which is impossible because skinny Pete did a collab video with Dimo the day before all this went down. How is that then?
Hackusation videos are one of the lowest forms of content imo. Its generally conjecture at best. Good on you for taking your own time clearing these false accusations up.
I don't watch Dimo due to him just being generally uninteresting and he plays with toxic people. Whether they're cheating or not will be sorted out by Ironmace. Dimo's response video starting off with retaliatory commentary comes off like standard politician deflecting to me, which is the point I stopped caring to watch his response. Cheater or not he's just doubled down on my choice to not watch him and I'm already tired of hearing about this everywhere.
Literally the most solo player played recently only with skinny pete recently
What the heck are you talking about. He plays solo for the most part. And he is right to be mad, someone is coming for his neck on his game and job. It's fair to be mad and he has every right if the claims are false or weak. As they were
ON GOD
@@ripperfisher182250 Dawg his response video was the worst shit i've ever seen. It was just him rambling and ranting about views and not even talking properly about the points wilson made. Idfc if he's cheating or not that shit was unbearable, 57 fucking minutes
@@Azphyre the Wilson video was so half baked and poorly made itself, including the bad idea to make clips with little context and without the pure audio. And dropped frames in his panther "aimbot" that made it look more SUS. Dimo is right to be mad. It's serious allegations for him and his grind. It wasn't a good video on his part either. But when you face such lies and defamation you are often unhappy
bruh, u just reviewed the worst clips xd
look for toddfather video, the judgement play and the tracking for bow on the fighter...
im sorry if u know Dimo but he is 100% cheating, look for those clips, dont go showing these jokes xd we all know Wilson doesnt know much about it, but when u dig up... i think the role of Wilson was open the conversation, but Dimo is actually cheating
Everyone that has played more than one play test knows what people are running