I think it is a very good show. The writing and setting were super captivating. A cool bit of writing that I think was profound was the little girl at the beach. “I wouldn’t go any further, there’s sharks in there.” Speaks to how he sees the humans. Just being existing in an ecosystem where there is great terror. Sugar just wants people to be safe and happy. So I’d imagine that little conversation made him think “I have to stay and take care of the sharks so people can swim in the water”. I don’t think I’m reading to far into that because why else put that interaction in there. But yeah very good show hopefully we get a season 2
I definitely want a season 2 this show is the type of original work we need more of! Collin Farrell was great (everyone was great really!!) loved the gentle masculinity of his character. Loved the noir feel! Honestly, 10s accross the board from me! Chef's kiss! The little girl to me was a reminder to Sugar that humanity is not just violence and that being more human doesn't have to be bad.
A couple other comments. First, in the intro shot his eyes don't turn blue in the first few episodes. It is only after the big reveal that his eyes start turning blue in the intro. Second, when Sugar has his shoes off and the waves are coming up to his feet and the little girl wars him about the ocean, it is a larger metaphor. Sugar has just dipped his toes into something that is much, much bigger and more dangerous than he understands. If he doesn't turn back now he could be lost to it.
Indeed WE do! What a pleasant surprise this show is! I love the costume design, the film noir feels, the old movie throwbacks, the edge of your seat TWIST on who or what John Sugar is… the way we get taken into his thoughts (in the monologues he has with himself)! Great show & Great review!! ❤️🇨🇦 Thank You/Merci
More Sugar, please! One season is not enough. Loved Season one. Waiting the long week for the next episode told me I was hooked. Wish I had found this commentary sooner, but I'll be back next season for sure! That's how sure I am that there will be a Season two!!!
Besides everything, thank you guys for this channel. I came across it by accident and honestly, i love your interactions, it gets me thinking and I appreciate the time you take to engage with all of us here. ❤
Wow thank you so so much that means the world to us to get comments like this. We are glad you watch and enjoy what we make. Comments like this keep us going!
What a pleasant surprise this show is! I love the costume design, the film noir feels, the old movie throwbacks, the edge of your seat TWIST on who or what John Sugar is… the way we get taken into his thoughts (in the monologues he has with himself)! Great show & Great review!!
Well I think the best compliment I can give you guys is I like and appreciate the show more after listening to your podcast, than I did after watching the show. This is why I watch this type of content. Thank you very much for illuminating all the little things I missed while watching this season.
Thank you for breaking down all the little details that I had missed “oh my gosh everything now makes sense” Thank You From Samaxe021 down here in Miami Fl
❤Who wrote this story, who financed the film - the series is very cool. The best representatives of Humanity have had a faint hope of “help/salvation from Evil” for many years. This idea was implemented by the screenwriter! That the best, perfect aliens will fly in from afar and change us. They will reformat the DNA of all the cruel ones. And the Planet will become better. But notorious monsters know. No one will help or save. This is what the film is about. To be continued. After all, Sugar now has a new mission🌍. Destroy absolute Evil. Henry. And a senator father who allowed his son to become a monster.
A good and rare Noir. But the twist (aliens) was weak, because it never affected the plot & the detective-works. Also the discovery wasn't based on clues from the beginning.
I called it on Henry last week. I really want a season 2, Sugar going after Henry! As far as we know they're the last aliens left on Earth, tie in the senator and let's go!
I have not watched this show yet but now I definitely will! And without even watching it yet I can say YES there should be a Season 2! Love watching this recap/review! You guys are awesome!
I thought when Ruby pulled by slowly to see Miller in car she had something to do with his murder. But I guess she went home with the rest of them. Still wonder about her motivation for the cruise-by….
Before we found out Sugar was an alien, I kept thinking about Mulder from X-Files when Sugar referenced his lost sister. But I still had no clue that he was going to be an actual alien.
Great finale. "Sugar" was a Perfect Show; start to finish. Oh, btw: I believe Sugar told Melanie he was an Alien by telepathy. And, it was the most beautifully emotional scene in the final episode. As for the next season I see Sugar trying to find his sister, Djen, as well as Henry--while avoiding the Hit Squad sent by somebody (probably the Senator) to kill any Alien who is still on earth. Which suggests that there are possibly more than Sugar, Henry, and maybe Djen. Some viewers believe Ruby didn't return, and is also hiding among the humans. As for Djen, my theory is that she is willingly with Henry; and they are partners-in-crime. Watching, even helping, humans kill other humans. Which, as I said in previous comments, is the Mission that Henry is still obsessed with: WHY are humans violent? Why do humans hurt other humans? Kill other humans. Henry & Djen have been "seduced" by violence--which had been absent on the Aliens' planet, until "introduced" by Aliens who had visited earth before. Remember: Henry is a (Cultural?) Anthropologist. He studies cultures, and their differences. If I'm correct and Djen has, like Henry, embraced the Dark Side of humanity, it makes Sugar's quest in season 2 more "conflicted": the sister that he loves so much he's willing to give up everything for, is a Baddie. Thanks for the reviews/videos/discussions. I'll definitely be with you on "Only Murders..." and possibly with "Dark Matter."
The nod to film noir, performance and pacing then the reveal which weirdly makes sense because of the nuances. Yeah season 2 was gonna happen soon as he stayed on earth
This show has had a deep personal effect for me. I got my estranged dad to watch it with me. I knew he'd love it for the Old-Hollywood call backs. I was interested in the "sci-fi twist" they kept promoting, and wow did it pay off. We both loved it, and we have spent hours discussing the scenes referenced from the classic films and how they relate to the Sugar plot. Haven't talked to my dad this much in twenty years. Colin Farrell is a fireball. Hope to God Apple pushes forward for another season.
Great show, really enjoyed your coverage of the series. Why some people don’t like certain things about this show is perplexing to me but not unlike anything else. There’s just those who want to not like things or maybe it’s just that they’re very very specific about what entertains them ??? Idk, it is what it is but I loved how this show did this and I think comparing to constellation is really appropriate as constellation is cancelled. I think constellation gave us so much that it came to be too too much and with sugar they’re giving us just enough. Dark matter is probably a better comparison to constellation but in the end it comes down to understanding what keeps viewers giving recommendations to watch the show and of course coming back for a second watch and a second or third season. Thanks for the coverage week to week. Great job
ummm... did anyone catch the part with the little girl warning Sugar about the ocean. Is it me, or did the girl's mother (in the background) look just like the short glimpses of Sugar's missing sister? Was that a tease of some sort?🤔
Jules nailed it. He took Mel's hands and "showed" her who he is. You can see from her eyes that she's experiencing something. Very cool scene. That will work well in Season 2 since she's the only earthling who know's his true identity...
@@sceneinvaders We MUST get this ramped up on Social media. The RT reviews are pretty meh. Farrell says they have left the door open but it’s really out of their hands until they see if enough people like it.
I was just wondering… can Colin Farrell be nominated for both Sugar and Penguin? 😊 After the ridiculous shut out with Banshees, awards committees had better give him the prize for one of them! (Sight unseen, Penguin has got to be winning top prizes.
@@mgariepy42 ah man Banshees was great, so dumb it didn't get any Academy love. Let's hope you just nailed it and he gets nominated for Sugar and The Penguin 🐧
I just finished this show last night (01-2025) and I admit I am late to the party because I just subscribed to Apple-tv last week. The show was superb and I am happy to have found out that there will be a season 2 of Sugar. Colin was excellent as well as the rest of the supporting cast.
Great show. Also pumped for Season 2. CF needs an Emmy. Yea, between Ozark and his role in The Walking dead, Jason Butler Harner, he creeps a lot. Good villain. I’m thinking Sugar will take the job offer. It'll be his way to facilitate his life on Earth.
If you guys do another episode maybe you can dive into his movie obsession. Is this another way he learns about being human? Also did they all take human jobs? Was this to blend into society?
I sure hope there is a Season 2...guys and a girl thanks for the breakdown each week. Yall are awesome. Now here is one of my questions...is Wylie the dog the same dog on the Pringles commercial with Chris Pratt??🤔 I think it is but have been unable to confirm that tidbit.
Great show. I don’t know if they addressed it but how long have they been on earth? Henry really embraced the dark side of humanity and taking Sugar’s sister was a huge betrayal.
I stand by my previous comment. John Sugar is actually John Jones the Martian Manhunter from the DC comics. I actually can't believe that I didn't see it sooner. This is by far the best Version of John Jones that I have ever seen and it is also the best "Super Hero" show that has come out in the past 2 years. The gritty reality of it reminds me of the 1st season of Daredevil on Netflix. Why do I say it is John Jones? First, the name. In the comics John Jones only needs simple carbohydrates or sugars to survive. So the last name is a tip of the hat to that fact. The powers, while subtler and more nuanced are beat for beat the original powers from the comics (Shape shifting to human form, telepathy, higher levels of mental acuity, greater strength and speed). In the comics John Jones is marooned on earth, while slightly different here as he is choosing self exile he is still trapped here on earth. There are some differences, for example no particular aversion to fire was shown, but they may be explained in future seasons. I love, love, love the backstory in Sugar on why he is a PI that looks for missing persons. It was never well explained in the comics. Here there is concert motive. This show was so well written, acted, and filmed. All I can say is I am really hoping for a season 2.
Now every time I see someone in an old school Corvette I’ll ask myself if they’re an alien. Also, if we get a season 2 wouldn’t mind seeing them possibly going to a different city if necessary for the story, but also don’t mind it staying in LA.
Sugar was going to be a "Limited Series", but they quickly removed that after reviewing the numbers! They called Season 1 "Dreaming", laying the Foundation for a much larger SL! In Episode 1 alone, they opened up the door for so very many questions that were never answered or revisited. Like something traumatic happened to Sugar, but what and when? It's obvious from that 1940 Underwood Vintage Typewriter, along with the land line upstairs in Ruby's house they were there since 1940. We learn in episode 1, Sugar has a non- verbal encounter with a fellow Alien in Tokyo (the dude at the bar). He let Sugar know his Cell disbanded and he hadn't had contact with anyone in over a year, Sugar invited him to come to CA with their group. Who is driving that Gray VW at KEY moments? Another, older Alien? He slowly drives by to confirm Miller is taken out. I also believe that Djen is alive. Henry isn't a killer. This Character is so much like the real life Colin Ferrell and he's an Executive Producer on this, I can't imagine Apple TV+ not renewing it! Why isn't Apple in negotiations with them about a Season 2 Renewal? Melanie (Amy Ryan) should be in Season 2! Considering Sugar showed himself to her and she lovingly accepted him. 😊✌️
I thought it was way too obvious that Henry was at the murder house. I mean how else would he know the address??? Plus I can’t tell if Henry is really a bad guy if he was just watching, just taking his mission very literally. But I’d like to see how he became a serial killers observer fleshed out in a season 2. I mean it’s kinda random that a serial killer would allow a witness to just watch. Also, I do wish they explained a little more about what happened with Sugars sister or gave further clues other than just giving us a dress. Lastly, I wish they explained more about who is hunting them and how they know about them. I pray these are answered in a Season 2. But these are just my gripes, otherwise great show.
Am I the only one surprised that this particular serial killer kept Amelia alive for over 2 weeks? It feels like there is a bit of explanation needed-she fascinated him in some way, or Henry stalled the murder for Sugar’s sake, or something. It doesn't feel like it took young Pavic that long to get to hurting his victims. Look how quickly he was going to hurt Sugar, but Amelia was apparently physically untpuched.
When John asked Melanie what kind of SciFi she liked it would have been funny if she replied, Galaxy Quest. Especially since he loves watching movies and learning about humans from them
Ugh soooo good give this all the emmys. I will now say "l dont want to hurt you" whenever lm threatened (dosen't happen often... Canadian) and there best be a season 2. I think the Segels will be featured as John will be working for them as a source of income... as aliens... im not sure about their financial status. Bring on season 2 and 3... oh and Penguin!
So this is my last comment, and I will put my mind to bed. Amy Ryan... Gee whiz. I rewatched the finale (obsessed much?). And her acting is out of this world. I've rarely seen an actress so natural. When she gets the call just after fiddling through the liquor cabinet. Her reaction, and I had held it together until then, made me fucking cry.
I loved Sugar and Melanie’s relationship. I liked it that they were true friends. There is way too much sex in entertainment and this was more meaningful.
Check this out… John and Henry’s first encounter got me thinking about it… and later on the show, as John reached into the place where Olivia was held captive, seeing all those instruments, I just couldn’t help thinking… why did Henry order a garlic press? Maybe he wanted to “try” it on somebody and take notes? Considering there were many other recordings from the sessions, I assume they did torture many other victims as experiments… maybe Henry had room to elaborate and go deep in these experiments… just thinking
The Henry call with his sister’s coat is such a Batman’s rogues origin gallery reveal. Henry says he “learned” and prob wants to stay on earth to be a serial killer and wants Sugar to chase him/stop him.
I can't believe I didn't call this. Sugar a Alien out in these streets. I thought he was a Spy. Colin is so fine ever since S.W.A.T. and Miami Vice. It was a good show. I'm the Series Queen, I should know.
Second season let's GO! So tired of streaming shows getting canceled. I pass on a lot of new shows now, because I so wary of getting caught up in something good only for it to be canceled too soon.
Re: cop- i know whoever was being pulled over was getting wacked- the senator would have all those people on payroll. Henry like other serial killers likes to risk being caught, wants people to know in a bragging way. He repeated exactly what was on the CD and he probably left that specific CD out for Sugar to find. Like taunting him, could Henry outsmart him etc
This last episode, other than the Henry reveal, felt more like an epilogue than a finale. I thought it was the weakest episode of the season so far. That explains how he knew the address. But it doesn't explain how/why Ruby and the rest of the group knew about it. Good setup for Season 2.
It’s a fairly competent show. Is the twist an expert all timer like Sixth Sense, Fight Club, or Momento? Not even close…but I personally would welcome a second season.
Called it on Henry! Well ... More or less. Please please please let them not cancel this show. They have brilliantly ended it in a way that opens up so many ways a second a season could just up the ante. And Henry massively deserves to be Sugar's arch nemesis. The actor is terrific. And I'm still hoping Charlie isn't dead. It's the one thing that pisses me off.
Great job 👏 👏👏. You are so right there is such a great story to be told for Season 2. And he's a great actor too! Yeah Charlie is the one thing that wasn't answered. True 🙏🙏
Knock, knock. "Who's there?" "Plumber ma'am." "Why, I didn't ask for a plumber. Who is it?" "Telegram." "Oh, telgram sure okay." Opens door. Landshark attacks........
Thanks for the video folks. Do you think he's going to go back to Siegel and take that job and that will be the basis of the main plot in S2? I can't think of S2 being only about tracking down Henry. Or you think a whole new cast maybe except for Henry and Melanie?
It's still a lot to think about. I think it will be cool if the Siegels are around for it. Def Melanie & Henry - which gets me so excited thinking about Season 2
Here is my take, the show has morphed into a modern Scifi version of "The Fugitive ",Sugar will searching for Henry while the powers that be are hunting him down,very much like Richard Kimball looking for the one armed man while Lt Gerrard pursued him,actually a very clever way to reboot a plot concept
The only thing that was whack about this show is that he states a few times in the show that he's a very good investigator and he'll definitely find Olivia, but in the end all his detective work was absolutely pointless, he wasn't even close to finding her, and he only locates her because one of his alien colleagues tells him where she is. Some investigator.
I’m curious why we would want a second season? The alien thing was so obvious a few episodes in…in the end we get it, Sugar is a great guy, but why do we need a follow up? Happy he left the dog with someone who can take care of it, other than that it feels wrapped up.
Might be alone here but I felt let down by episode 8. Cast a shadow over the whole show for me. The build-up in prior episodes was well done but the resolution felt lazy. Why was everyone defending Henry to the point of almost getting Sugar killed? And then they’re all like cool see you on the plane back to our alien planet. Who killed Miller? That was dumb. The whole Henry also being behind Djen thing was also dumb. Would have been more interesting if the Senator dad was the other psychopath, and it would have explained the political pressure. Also in the end the alien thing made zero difference to the plot-he could have been a spy and the plot beats would have barely changed. Reminds me of LOST-big on hype, weak on payoff. It was an enjoyable watch, with a dumb final episode. Count me out of season 2.
The polyglots were defending Henry to keep his secret from Sugar. Remember, they are the only ones who knew what he’d done with Djen and that he’d gone rogue. They want him off the Olivia case, “he’s getting too close.” They want Sugar off the case because he’s getting too close to finding out that Henry is a killer (become too human) and is part of Olivia’s fate. Henry does NOT get on the plane! That’s the cliffhanger for a S2: Henry has Djen! How did he get her? Sugar remembers she was kidnapped from their home. Everyone but Sugar knows how and why. Who killed Miller? And why just him? He didn’t kill the Senator’s son. His murder wouldn’t get rid of all the polyglots. Though Ruby has gotten on the plane…hmmmm. Did she? Why does she cruise slowly by Miller’s car? To make sure he’s dead? There is much yet to be unraveled! We NEED Sugar to track down Henry and Djen!
Sugar says throughout the show that 'we don't kill people ', yet in their race they have baddies like Henry, so the race isn't totally peaceful, also the society knew about Henry, which contradicts their whole rule of observing people as Henry was an active part in the murdering. For me it would make more sense if the society didn't know about Henry, but only about senators son, and it was a shock to them too.
I think Henry was just observing and that’s how he sold it to the others… no killing but observing… that was their mission and we don’t know the parameters of the mission
Also, somehow, the senator found out about the aliens. How was that done? Did someone on earth know and agree to the aliens being there and then the senator found out from that??
I think this show is very sloppily written. It has the feeling of a writers room who don't exactly know what they're doing or where they're going. The ending with Henry was a mess that couldn't make its mind up. Was he a villain all along who kidnapped Sugar's sister? Or was he a good guy like Sugar who had his personality warped by observing humans and becoming more human? Lazy, sloppy writing that reminded me of network TV - not prestige cable. Colin Farrell is terrific. The idea has merit. The show is junk. Oh, and the cinematography is irritating. The show references classic film noir, but doesn't seem to understand it or care about its values.
You answered your own question. Polyglots come to “observe and report.” That’s all. Henry’s the bad apple among them, the duplicitous one. Script implies the good he does is transformative. E8 implies he was attracted to the killer and that attraction makes him even more human. We won’t know till S2 why he took Djen. To lure Sugar to stay for some unknown reason. Look at the writers A-list. Directed by Mireilles too! And performances are wonderful!
@@mgariepy42 I didn't say I had an issue with why the polyglots were there. I said the writers room couldn't make its mind up about why the antagonist behaved as he did. I am a TV writer, and I know this show was way behind schedule getting its scripts turned in. They were writing them in a panic while production was well underway. It shows.
I liked the look of the show, the acting, the design, I just thought the story was a little bland. The story itself didn't do a whole lot for me, I didn't find myself trying to figure out mysteries, just kinda waiting for reveals. But I like Colin Farrell a lot
Hi, I understand your impression, because it's a very linear plot (regardless of the crazy alien twist), like any noir detective novel (except anything by James Ellroy :-) My reason for not thinking it is bland, is that it actually incorporates -direction wise- so many tributes to film. I don't mean the film sequences you see running through but, like Mel's attack by one of Stalling's guys, I interpreted it as a Shining hommage. Silence of the Lambs, too, just with the good looks of Ryan. I could go on. But tons of small things like that, to me, make this show exciting.
I can't believe I didn't call this. Sugar a Alien out in these streets. I thought he was a Spy. Colin is so fine ever since S.W.A.T. and Miami Vice. It was a good show. I'm the Series Queen, I should know.
I think it is a very good show. The writing and setting were super captivating. A cool bit of writing that I think was profound was the little girl at the beach. “I wouldn’t go any further, there’s sharks in there.” Speaks to how he sees the humans. Just being existing in an ecosystem where there is great terror. Sugar just wants people to be safe and happy. So I’d imagine that little conversation made him think “I have to stay and take care of the sharks so people can swim in the water”. I don’t think I’m reading to far into that because why else put that interaction in there. But yeah very good show hopefully we get a season 2
I definitely want a season 2 this show is the type of original work we need more of!
Collin Farrell was great (everyone was great really!!) loved the gentle masculinity of his character. Loved the noir feel!
Honestly, 10s accross the board from me! Chef's kiss!
The little girl to me was a reminder to Sugar that humanity is not just violence and that being more human doesn't have to be bad.
Gentle masculinity. That’s a perfect description!
@@mgariepy42 we need more exemple of that in fiction!
A couple other comments. First, in the intro shot his eyes don't turn blue in the first few episodes. It is only after the big reveal that his eyes start turning blue in the intro. Second, when Sugar has his shoes off and the waves are coming up to his feet and the little girl wars him about the ocean, it is a larger metaphor. Sugar has just dipped his toes into something that is much, much bigger and more dangerous than he understands. If he doesn't turn back now he could be lost to it.
YES we need Season 2
Yes we do!!!
Indeed WE do! What a pleasant surprise this show is! I love the costume design, the film noir feels, the old movie throwbacks, the edge of your seat TWIST on who or what John Sugar is… the way we get taken into his thoughts (in the monologues he has with himself)! Great show & Great review!! ❤️🇨🇦 Thank You/Merci
Really hope for a season two. Colin was amazing in the role and the writing was excellent.
Me toooo
Yes, he held her hands and communicated something to her about his real identity.
She has a smile on her face. It must have made her happy.
15:16 my younger sister, Sami Acuña plays the little girl on the beach….
No way!! That's so cool 👏👏👏
More Sugar, please! One season is not enough. Loved Season one. Waiting the long week for the next episode told me I was hooked. Wish I had found this commentary sooner, but I'll be back next season for sure! That's how sure I am that there will be a Season two!!!
We'll be here 🙌
Besides everything, thank you guys for this channel. I came across it by accident and honestly, i love your interactions, it gets me thinking and I appreciate the time you take to engage with all of us here. ❤
Wow thank you so so much that means the world to us to get comments like this. We are glad you watch and enjoy what we make. Comments like this keep us going!
Agree. Great channel
@@mgariepy42 thanks so much! We are going to continue to try and always be improving
What an amazing season! Such a long wait to figure out wtf was going on and I love every minute of it! Collin Ferrell was incredible in this role.
Couldn't agree more. Such PERFECT casting 🧑🍳
What a pleasant surprise this show is! I love the costume design, the film noir feels, the old movie throwbacks, the edge of your seat TWIST on who or what John Sugar is… the way we get taken into his thoughts (in the monologues he has with himself)! Great show & Great review!!
Thanks so much and we all agree 🙏🙏
All ruined with the alien reveal.
@@ProfoundProductionsand so a word from the minority 😂
Well I think the best compliment I can give you guys is I like and appreciate the show more after listening to your podcast, than I did after watching the show. This is why I watch this type of content. Thank you very much for illuminating all the little things I missed while watching this season.
Thank you so much seriously, comments like this is why we make videos. Really appreciated
@@sceneinvaders I'm following the Dark Matter content too keep up the good work.
Thank you for breaking down all the little details that I had missed “oh my gosh everything now makes sense” Thank You From Samaxe021 down here in Miami Fl
How did you like this show?? Do you want a Season 2 like we do?
YES season 2 bring it on
Yes!
Definitely yes!!👍
❤Who wrote this story, who financed the film - the series is very cool. The best representatives of Humanity have had a faint hope of “help/salvation from Evil” for many years. This idea was implemented by the screenwriter! That the best, perfect aliens will fly in from afar and change us. They will reformat the DNA of all the cruel ones. And the Planet will become better. But notorious monsters know. No one will help or save. This is what the film is about.
To be continued. After all, Sugar now has a new mission🌍. Destroy absolute Evil. Henry. And a senator father who allowed his son to become a monster.
A good and rare Noir. But the twist (aliens) was weak, because it never affected the plot & the detective-works. Also the discovery wasn't based on clues from the beginning.
I called it on Henry last week. I really want a season 2, Sugar going after Henry! As far as we know they're the last aliens left on Earth, tie in the senator and let's go!
Yes you did! Awesome job. I'm with you. There is so much to work with for a second Season. Let it happen Apple!
@@sceneinvaders Also, a longer video going over the season as a whole would be great!
I have not watched this show yet but now I definitely will! And without even watching it yet I can say YES there should be a Season 2! Love watching this recap/review! You guys are awesome!
I thought when Ruby pulled by slowly to see Miller in car she had something to do with his murder. But I guess she went home with the rest of them. Still wonder about her motivation for the cruise-by….
Before we found out Sugar was an alien, I kept thinking about Mulder from X-Files when Sugar referenced his lost sister. But I still had no clue that he was going to be an actual alien.
Great finale. "Sugar" was a Perfect Show; start to finish. Oh, btw: I believe Sugar told Melanie he was an Alien by telepathy. And, it was the most beautifully emotional scene in the final episode.
As for the next season I see Sugar trying to find his sister, Djen, as well as Henry--while avoiding the Hit Squad sent by somebody (probably the Senator) to kill any Alien who is still on earth. Which suggests that there are possibly more than Sugar, Henry, and maybe Djen. Some viewers believe Ruby didn't return, and is also hiding among the humans.
As for Djen, my theory is that she is willingly with Henry; and they are partners-in-crime. Watching, even helping, humans kill other humans. Which, as I said in previous comments, is the Mission that Henry is still obsessed with: WHY are humans violent? Why do humans hurt other humans? Kill other humans. Henry & Djen have been "seduced" by violence--which had been absent on the Aliens' planet, until "introduced" by Aliens who had visited earth before. Remember: Henry is a (Cultural?) Anthropologist. He studies cultures, and their differences.
If I'm correct and Djen has, like Henry, embraced the Dark Side of humanity, it makes Sugar's quest in season 2 more "conflicted": the sister that he loves so much he's willing to give up everything for, is a Baddie.
Thanks for the reviews/videos/discussions. I'll definitely be with you on "Only Murders..." and possibly with "Dark Matter."
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The nod to film noir, performance and pacing then the reveal which weirdly makes sense because of the nuances. Yeah season 2 was gonna happen soon as he stayed on earth
Hell yea! Let's go Season 2!
This show has had a deep personal effect for me. I got my estranged dad to watch it with me. I knew he'd love it for the Old-Hollywood call backs. I was interested in the "sci-fi twist" they kept promoting, and wow did it pay off. We both loved it, and we have spent hours discussing the scenes referenced from the classic films and how they relate to the Sugar plot. Haven't talked to my dad this much in twenty years. Colin Farrell is a fireball. Hope to God Apple pushes forward for another season.
Love to hear this. I'm glad you two had this show to connect on. And same here, please make Season 2 happen
I just finished this show and I love your review and recap. I hope they have second season. Colin Farrell was great in this show!
Thanks so much! We do too 🤞
I love this show.
I hope there is a season 2!
Great show, really enjoyed your coverage of the series. Why some people don’t like certain things about this show is perplexing to me but not unlike anything else. There’s just those who want to not like things or maybe it’s just that they’re very very specific about what entertains them ??? Idk, it is what it is but I loved how this show did this and I think comparing to constellation is really appropriate as constellation is cancelled. I think constellation gave us so much that it came to be too too much and with sugar they’re giving us just enough. Dark matter is probably a better comparison to constellation but in the end it comes down to understanding what keeps viewers giving recommendations to watch the show and of course coming back for a second watch and a second or third season. Thanks for the coverage week to week. Great job
Thanks so much! And great comment
A season 2 is a must
YES!
Great recap. I NEED season 2! There were some incredible shots this episode. 🔥
Thanks so much! 🙏 I need Season 2 also, it has to happen- and agreed ⬆️
Really loved this series snd can hardly wait to see Season 2!!!
Sameeeee
The no Beard took me by surprise. Good video! clean cut keep it up! I love watching you three
Thank you so much! lol I decided to cut it off right before we recorded
ummm... did anyone catch the part with the little girl warning Sugar about the ocean. Is it me, or did the girl's mother (in the background) look just like the short glimpses of Sugar's missing sister? Was that a tease of some sort?🤔
Wow good catch, could be. Let's hope season 2 gets green lit
Jules nailed it. He took Mel's hands and "showed" her who he is. You can see from her eyes that she's experiencing something. Very cool scene. That will work well in Season 2 since she's the only earthling who know's his true identity...
I agree with her too. And I'm hoping for the green light season 2 news any day now
@@sceneinvaders We MUST get this ramped up on Social media. The RT reviews are pretty meh. Farrell says they have left the door open but it’s really out of their hands until they see if enough people like it.
I was just wondering… can Colin Farrell be nominated for both Sugar and Penguin? 😊 After the ridiculous shut out with Banshees, awards committees had better give him the prize for one of them! (Sight unseen, Penguin has got to be winning top prizes.
@@mgariepy42 ah man Banshees was great, so dumb it didn't get any Academy love. Let's hope you just nailed it and he gets nominated for Sugar and The Penguin 🐧
@@mgariepy42 I'm just telling people to watch it every week that passes
I just finished this show last night (01-2025) and I admit I am late to the party because I just subscribed to Apple-tv last week. The show was superb and I am happy to have found out that there will be a season 2 of Sugar. Colin was excellent as well as the rest of the supporting cast.
@@leerhode1021 so good right! We'll be covering it ✅
@@sceneinvaders So happy to be a new subscriber!
Great show. Also pumped for Season 2. CF needs an Emmy. Yea, between Ozark and his role in The Walking dead, Jason Butler Harner, he creeps a lot. Good villain. I’m thinking Sugar will take the job offer. It'll be his way to facilitate his life on Earth.
Agreed ⬆️
If you guys do another episode maybe you can dive into his movie obsession. Is this another way he learns about being human? Also did they all take human jobs? Was this to blend into society?
I sure hope there is a Season 2...guys and a girl thanks for the breakdown each week. Yall are awesome.
Now here is one of my questions...is Wylie the dog the same dog on the Pringles commercial with Chris Pratt??🤔 I think it is but have been unable to confirm that tidbit.
lol 😂 I have no idea I'll have to see the commercial. I haven't seen that yet but that's hilarious. And thanks for the compliment 😃😃
OMG, yes, it's definitely Wylie! 😃
Thanks for the recaps. They have to bring back kirby baptiste for season 2. Make it happen 🥰
Great show. I don’t know if they addressed it but how long have they been on earth? Henry really embraced the dark side of humanity and taking Sugar’s sister was a huge betrayal.
I stand by my previous comment. John Sugar is actually John Jones the Martian Manhunter from the DC comics. I actually can't believe that I didn't see it sooner. This is by far the best Version of John Jones that I have ever seen and it is also the best "Super Hero" show that has come out in the past 2 years. The gritty reality of it reminds me of the 1st season of Daredevil on Netflix.
Why do I say it is John Jones? First, the name. In the comics John Jones only needs simple carbohydrates or sugars to survive. So the last name is a tip of the hat to that fact. The powers, while subtler and more nuanced are beat for beat the original powers from the comics (Shape shifting to human form, telepathy, higher levels of mental acuity, greater strength and speed). In the comics John Jones is marooned on earth, while slightly different here as he is choosing self exile he is still trapped here on earth.
There are some differences, for example no particular aversion to fire was shown, but they may be explained in future seasons. I love, love, love the backstory in Sugar on why he is a PI that looks for missing persons. It was never well explained in the comics. Here there is concert motive. This show was so well written, acted, and filmed. All I can say is I am really hoping for a season 2.
Agree with all of this ⬆️
Now every time I see someone in an old school Corvette I’ll ask myself if they’re an alien.
Also, if we get a season 2 wouldn’t mind seeing them possibly going to a different city if necessary for the story, but also don’t mind it staying in LA.
Sugar was going to be a "Limited Series", but they quickly removed that after reviewing the numbers! They called Season 1 "Dreaming", laying the Foundation for a much larger SL! In Episode 1 alone, they opened up the door for so very many questions that were never answered or revisited. Like something traumatic happened to Sugar, but what and when?
It's obvious from that 1940 Underwood Vintage Typewriter, along with the land line upstairs in Ruby's house they were there since 1940.
We learn in episode 1, Sugar has a non- verbal encounter with a fellow Alien in Tokyo (the dude at the bar). He let Sugar know his Cell disbanded and he hadn't had contact with anyone in over a year, Sugar invited him to come to CA with their group.
Who is driving that Gray VW at KEY moments? Another, older Alien? He slowly drives by to confirm Miller is taken out.
I also believe that Djen is alive. Henry isn't a killer. This Character is so much like the real life Colin Ferrell and he's an Executive Producer on this, I can't imagine Apple TV+ not renewing it!
Why isn't Apple in negotiations with them about a Season 2 Renewal?
Melanie (Amy Ryan) should be in Season 2! Considering Sugar showed himself to her and she lovingly accepted him. 😊✌️
I agree with everything you said and I sure hope they do a Season 2!
Why Disc #44??
Of all the discs to pick.
I thought it was way too obvious that Henry was at the murder house. I mean how else would he know the address??? Plus I can’t tell if Henry is really a bad guy if he was just watching, just taking his mission very literally. But I’d like to see how he became a serial killers observer fleshed out in a season 2. I mean it’s kinda random that a serial killer would allow a witness to just watch. Also, I do wish they explained a little more about what happened with Sugars sister or gave further clues other than just giving us a dress. Lastly, I wish they explained more about who is hunting them and how they know about them. I pray these are answered in a Season 2. But these are just my gripes, otherwise great show.
Am I the only one surprised that this particular serial killer kept Amelia alive for over 2 weeks? It feels like there is a bit of explanation needed-she fascinated him in some way, or Henry stalled the murder for Sugar’s sake, or something. It doesn't feel like it took young Pavic that long to get to hurting his victims. Look how quickly he was going to hurt Sugar, but Amelia was apparently physically untpuched.
The mystery of that is explained at end. And her name is Olivia.
When John asked Melanie what kind of SciFi she liked it would have been funny if she replied, Galaxy Quest. Especially since he loves watching movies and learning about humans from them
Ugh soooo good give this all the emmys. I will now say "l dont want to hurt you" whenever lm threatened (dosen't happen often... Canadian) and there best be a season 2. I think the Segels will be featured as John will be working for them as a source of income... as aliens... im not sure about their financial status. Bring on season 2 and 3... oh and Penguin!
You said it brother! Couldn't agree more 🐧 is gonna be doooope
So this is my last comment, and I will put my mind to bed. Amy Ryan... Gee whiz. I rewatched the finale (obsessed much?). And her acting is out of this world. I've rarely seen an actress so natural. When she gets the call just after fiddling through the liquor cabinet. Her reaction, and I had held it together until then, made me fucking cry.
I'm right there with you she was fantastic. I could see her and Colin Farrell winning Emmys or Golden Globes
Penguin !!!! This has gotten me more excited for his role as Penguin because they are somewhat similar with the grounded crime thriller esthetic.
I loved Sugar and Melanie’s relationship. I liked it that they were true friends. There is way too much sex in entertainment and this was more meaningful.
Me too that was a nice change of pace
Season 2 is very possible bc Colin Farrell is an executive producer
True!!! It hast to happen come on 🙏
Did not know that. Hopefully he is reading our comments!
him being a fuckin alien is pointless without a season 2 im sorry cool reveal ... now i wanna see more alien shit
Bring on season two!
Yes!! 🙌
Check this out… John and Henry’s first encounter got me thinking about it… and later on the show, as John reached into the place where Olivia was held captive, seeing all those instruments, I just couldn’t help thinking… why did Henry order a garlic press? Maybe he wanted to “try” it on somebody and take notes? Considering there were many other recordings from the sessions, I assume they did torture many other victims as experiments… maybe Henry had room to elaborate and go deep in these experiments… just thinking
The Henry call with his sister’s coat is such a Batman’s rogues origin gallery reveal. Henry says he “learned” and prob wants to stay on earth to be a serial killer and wants Sugar to chase him/stop him.
Also, the whole movie clips makes it seem now that Sugar did watch those noir detective movies to learn about humans and his PI role.
Yes, yes to season 2!
Please!
Jason Butler Harner killed it as always and IMHO could easily carry his own show.
Can't wait for season 2!!
Same here 🔥🔥
Love the show need season two
Meeee too
Yes we need a season 2. Do you think Ruby stayed? We didn’t see her leave, really.
True but I'm guessing she left - please let season 2 happen
Yes- telepathic bc her eyes turned blue too!
Such a great show and I hope they get a 2nd season. The viewership should be higher but not very surprising, as people often watch garbage.
It def deserves more praise than it's getting
Did NOT see that coming!!! 👽
A couple other questions I didn’t find an answer for… who’s Elizabeth Carpenter? And what about Helen (John’s mom)?
I can't believe I didn't call this. Sugar a Alien out in these streets. I thought he was a Spy. Colin is so fine ever since S.W.A.T. and Miami Vice. It was a good show. I'm the Series Queen, I should know.
Second season let's GO! So tired of streaming shows getting canceled. I pass on a lot of new shows now, because I so wary of getting caught up in something good only for it to be canceled too soon.
Re: cop- i know whoever was being pulled over was getting wacked- the senator would have all those people on payroll.
Henry like other serial killers likes to risk being caught, wants people to know in a bragging way. He repeated exactly what was on the CD and he probably left that specific CD out for Sugar to find. Like taunting him, could Henry outsmart him etc
This last episode, other than the Henry reveal, felt more like an epilogue than a finale. I thought it was the weakest episode of the season so far. That explains how he knew the address. But it doesn't explain how/why Ruby and the rest of the group knew about it. Good setup for Season 2.
It’s a fairly competent show. Is the twist an expert all timer like Sixth Sense, Fight Club, or Momento? Not even close…but I personally would welcome a second season.
Called it on Henry! Well ... More or less.
Please please please let them not cancel this show. They have brilliantly ended it in a way that opens up so many ways a second a season could just up the ante. And Henry massively deserves to be Sugar's arch nemesis. The actor is terrific. And I'm still hoping Charlie isn't dead. It's the one thing that pisses me off.
Great job 👏 👏👏. You are so right there is such a great story to be told for Season 2. And he's a great actor too! Yeah Charlie is the one thing that wasn't answered. True 🙏🙏
Who was protecting the sociopath human trafficker? Why was so feared?
I loved it. Sad it's over. I doubt they will renew it.
Same and I really hope they do. Should hear word relatively soon
Something is missing in your description DAN!
I'll fix that now
Knock, knock.
"Who's there?"
"Plumber ma'am."
"Why, I didn't ask for a plumber. Who is it?"
"Telegram."
"Oh, telgram sure okay." Opens door.
Landshark attacks........
Looool 😂 😂 😂
The cancelled Constellation? It was soo good.
Yeaaaa it sucks 🤦♂️
Thanks for the video folks. Do you think he's going to go back to Siegel and take that job and that will be the basis of the main plot in S2? I can't think of S2 being only about tracking down Henry. Or you think a whole new cast maybe except for Henry and Melanie?
Lol I typed this question just before I saw the last 2 mins of the video
It's still a lot to think about. I think it will be cool if the Siegels are around for it. Def Melanie & Henry - which gets me so excited thinking about Season 2
I though Henry actor Jason Butter was Costa Ronin !!! I was wondering how his Russian accent was gone 🤦♀️
This show feels like its based off a comic series
Here is my take, the show has morphed into a modern Scifi version of "The Fugitive ",Sugar will searching for Henry while the powers that be are hunting him down,very much like Richard Kimball looking for the one armed man while Lt Gerrard pursued him,actually a very clever way to reboot a plot concept
What do you think happened to Charlie? And who's been driving that Volvo?
Good question that's the one thing they didn't answer 🤷♂️
The only thing that was whack about this show is that he states a few times in the show that he's a very good investigator and he'll definitely find Olivia, but in the end all his detective work was absolutely pointless, he wasn't even close to finding her, and he only locates her because one of his alien colleagues tells him where she is. Some investigator.
I'd rather it finish as Oliver being his sister but if they can have a season 2 where he looks for his sister I guess that works
I’m curious why we would want a second season? The alien thing was so obvious a few episodes in…in the end we get it, Sugar is a great guy, but why do we need a follow up? Happy he left the dog with someone who can take care of it, other than that it feels wrapped up.
They cancelled constellation?!?!
I hated the ending but I feel they needed a season 2 😫
Same it's such a bummer :(
@@sceneinvaders are you guys going to break down the Apple TV series “Dark Matter”
OK.....Second season.....finding Jen.
Who’s been in the Volkswagen all season and drove by when Miller was shot?
Loved the show. I just hope they can take it in a fresh direction and not go off into some woke modern Alien Nation territory. But it probably will.
👍👏👏🥰
I stay longing for more, hopefully there will be a second season
Same hereeee
Might be alone here but I felt let down by episode 8. Cast a shadow over the whole show for me. The build-up in prior episodes was well done but the resolution felt lazy. Why was everyone defending Henry to the point of almost getting Sugar killed? And then they’re all like cool see you on the plane back to our alien planet. Who killed Miller? That was dumb. The whole Henry also being behind Djen thing was also dumb. Would have been more interesting if the Senator dad was the other psychopath, and it would have explained the political pressure. Also in the end the alien thing made zero difference to the plot-he could have been a spy and the plot beats would have barely changed. Reminds me of LOST-big on hype, weak on payoff. It was an enjoyable watch, with a dumb final episode. Count me out of season 2.
The polyglots were defending Henry to keep his secret from Sugar. Remember, they are the only ones who knew what he’d done with Djen and that he’d gone rogue. They want him off the Olivia case, “he’s getting too close.” They want Sugar off the case because he’s getting too close to finding out that Henry is a killer (become too human) and is part of Olivia’s fate. Henry does NOT get on the plane! That’s the cliffhanger for a S2: Henry has Djen! How did he get her? Sugar remembers she was kidnapped from their home. Everyone but Sugar knows how and why. Who killed Miller? And why just him? He didn’t kill the Senator’s son. His murder wouldn’t get rid of all the polyglots.
Though Ruby has gotten on the plane…hmmmm. Did she? Why does she cruise slowly by Miller’s car? To make sure he’s dead? There is much yet to be unraveled! We NEED Sugar to track down Henry and Djen!
Yeah, Ruby diverts, distracts, denies. Why would we believe now that she didn’t know what Henry did? Hmmm.
Why did Henry give Sugar the address of olivia? Makes absolutely no sense?!
I'm surprised how many people enjoyed the twist. I hated it so much
I don't know... Constellation was way better and it didn't make it... Be surprised if this continues.
Sugar says throughout the show that 'we don't kill people ', yet in their race they have baddies like Henry, so the race isn't totally peaceful, also the society knew about Henry, which contradicts their whole rule of observing people as Henry was an active part in the murdering. For me it would make more sense if the society didn't know about Henry, but only about senators son, and it was a shock to them too.
maybe henry is a defective alien like sociopaths are defective humans?
I think Henry was just observing and that’s how he sold it to the others… no killing but observing… that was their mission and we don’t know the parameters of the mission
Also, somehow, the senator found out about the aliens.
How was that done?
Did someone on earth know and agree to the aliens being there and then the senator found out from that??
Pengwen, wait,
😂 that still counts! We're doing it
Loved the film noir aspect of the early episodes but the alien nonsense in the later episodes ruined for me
Loved the show, hate all the grumpy reviewers who couldn't just relax and enjoy the ride.
Well we all loved it 👍👍
Pingüino!
A deal is a deal. We're doing it ✅
I think this show is very sloppily written. It has the feeling of a writers room who don't exactly know what they're doing or where they're going. The ending with Henry was a mess that couldn't make its mind up. Was he a villain all along who kidnapped Sugar's sister? Or was he a good guy like Sugar who had his personality warped by observing humans and becoming more human? Lazy, sloppy writing that reminded me of network TV - not prestige cable. Colin Farrell is terrific. The idea has merit. The show is junk. Oh, and the cinematography is irritating. The show references classic film noir, but doesn't seem to understand it or care about its values.
You answered your own question. Polyglots come to “observe and report.” That’s all. Henry’s the bad apple among them, the duplicitous one. Script implies the good he does is transformative. E8 implies he was attracted to the killer and that attraction makes him even more human. We won’t know till S2 why he took Djen. To lure Sugar to stay for some unknown reason. Look at the writers A-list. Directed by Mireilles too! And performances are wonderful!
@@mgariepy42 I didn't say I had an issue with why the polyglots were there. I said the writers room couldn't make its mind up about why the antagonist behaved as he did. I am a TV writer, and I know this show was way behind schedule getting its scripts turned in. They were writing them in a panic while production was well underway. It shows.
I liked the look of the show, the acting, the design, I just thought the story was a little bland. The story itself didn't do a whole lot for me, I didn't find myself trying to figure out mysteries, just kinda waiting for reveals. But I like Colin Farrell a lot
He is one of the best going right now that's for sure
Hi, I understand your impression, because it's a very linear plot (regardless of the crazy alien twist), like any noir detective novel (except anything by James Ellroy :-) My reason for not thinking it is bland, is that it actually incorporates -direction wise- so many tributes to film. I don't mean the film sequences you see running through but, like Mel's attack by one of Stalling's guys, I interpreted it as a Shining hommage. Silence of the Lambs, too, just with the good looks of Ryan. I could go on. But tons of small things like that, to me, make this show exciting.
Worst series of the year. Flashback to classic films didn't help😢
Its been #1 or #2 since it released. I dont see anyway they dont give it a season 2.
Im knocking on wood 🪵 right now.
Meee too
I can't believe I didn't call this. Sugar a Alien out in these streets. I thought he was a Spy. Colin is so fine ever since S.W.A.T. and Miami Vice. It was a good show. I'm the Series Queen, I should know.