I have been trying to cpy the way that you do tacks and 360s. Eeeeesh! It is difficult. Have you ever tried a Flysurfer Hybrid or Peak? They are great in the waves but do not provide any lift. Do you think that I will need to get a Cloud or UFO to do your tricks?
I had a 5m Peak. I liked the simplicity concept and how efficient it is for its size. The drift is also very good, even slightly better than Clouds. But I didn't like the the flutter feeling in the bar and the turning is not nearly as smooth as with Clouds. I used very short lines with the Peak trying to improve its turning speed, but this implies more crashing the kite in the water during failed kite loops and dealing with relaunching was a hassle (not with the Hybrid). So I sold my Peak very fast because I always chose the Clouds instead of the Peak. I know the hybrid relaunches well, but I assume the turning remains pretty similar to Peaks, and seeing and hearing how Hybrids fly I can see that the fluttering remains the same, unless you always keep some tension on the bar. This being said, this is just my personal preference and I am very used to Clouds over the years, but there are very good riders using Peaks and Hybrids doing all kind of tricks. Some former Cloud users have sold their clouds and now use Peaks. Clouds do not offer much passive lift neither, I don't think they are superior to Peaks in this regards. Unlike race kites that offer tons of lifts pulling the bar and give you plenty of time and lift for tacks, Clouds performance is linked to speed, so maneuvers are quick and a little more tricky. Although I like Clouds I am also open to other brands and designs. In fact I now own an Airush Ultra Team 12m for light wind days that is replacing my 10m and 13m Clouds for sub 10 knots days. Although both are light kites they are totally different concepts: Ultra sits at the edge of the wind window and the more you pull on the bar the more power generates so it's good for fast upwind straight courses. Clouds sit deep in the wind window are much faster to turn but not as good for going upwind in light wind and large Clouds stall easier if you pull too much on the bar. So for light wind, when carving fast is not that much fun, I am enjoying cruising with te Ultra
Thanks, It's a Slingshot Phantasm PFH 657 wing with the short 653mm fuselage, the small 325 stabilizer and the long 102cm mast. Mounted on a homemade 109cm board
@@regornel it is very beautiful and quiet during the week. Great place for winter South winds. I am often the only one foiling, like today. A bit tricky for foiling with shallow sand banks depending on tides, and winds from the mountains can be gusty
Hi what is your foil brand & size wing set , I kite foil the UFO 5m mostly + own a 4/6/7/8, am trying to learn carve 360s but it's hard! any tips? foil is duotone sls 90mast with GT700 wing set
Hi @peterferencak8995 I use a Slingshot Phantasm 657 which is 743 cm2. This falls in the same category as your foil. Relatively small, fast and carvy, but these foils need to keep some speed during maneuvers not to stall.These are some great tutorials: th-cam.com/video/8JcW8ZkdQZc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/fj-Wz9aafW0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/n2_CQrnq7Vw/w-d-xo.html (heel to toe tack) My advice for heel side 360s would be: If possible try to learn it with a bigger foil that allows to do it at a slower speed. Start by pulling the back hand and start the carve upwind so the kite is vertical at 12 when the board is pointing to the wind. When learning do not lean backwards like in a twin tip back roll, instead, look under your armpit during rotation so that your weight stays vertically aligned with the mast; otherwise the foil will shoot around you, cutting the surface and you fall on your bum. At the same time look under your armpit, rotate your torso to help continuing the rotation. Keep pulling on the back hand so the kite doesn't stop and does a continuous loop. End the rotation with the end of the kiteloop to keep power during the whole rotation, and exit downwind doing only a 270º turn instead of 360º. This way, if you mess up the kite loop timing, you just keep following the kite downwind instead being pulled off the board by the kite. Once you are going downwind a little bit you can decide whether to keep turning the extra 90º to complete the 360 or bleed out some speed first if you are late with the kite loop. Avoid an early kite loop not to be ejected backwards, which is unavoidable sometime during learning. If this happens always complete the kite loop as a priority even while you are flying backwards falling on your back. Practice the body and kite movements on the beach first. It is easier if you are a little powered to keep kite power throughout the whole turn. If you are overpowered the kite loop must be quick and over your head , like an helpi-loop. I hope it all makes sense ! Have fun practicing ?
@@glidejunkie Excellent and rare advice - it worked! I am delighted! This - "At the same time look under your armpit :)))) !!!!, rotate your torso to help continuing the rotation" I am happy and you should be happy too! I wish you good wind, bro! :)
@@AborigenAborigenovich glad it helped ! Looking under your armpit instead of looking over your shoulder is the single most important tip, as this puts you in a more vertical position over the mast, rather than leaning back. Moving the hips forward helps a lot too
@@glidejunkie I jump backrolls and frontrolls on a hydrofoil with straps and an 800 wing with a lightwind of 3.5 - 4 m/s on a 5 carrot kite of 17 meters. A large rigid kite is great for jumping in a lightwind. The 22.5 m lines and the upper Y provide fast downloops. The large kite holds clearly - I recommend it!!! On a hydrofoil under this kite I ride and jump high with a wind force of up to 8 m/s. Then you need to either take a TT or change the kite.
@@cfabi65 yes, huge difference. I haven't tried a Reo but Clouds are so different to any other kite, except Slingshot UFO which is based on Clouds. Reo is a standard strutted wave kite, I have used Neo in 6, 8 and 10m which is equivalent to Reo. Cloud is much quicker to react due to its lightness, thin leading edge and low aspect ratio. Clouds drift much more than any strutted kite and react to bar movement with slack lines. Clouds stay in the air with much less wind. They never overshot you past your head. They are used differently in the bar movement because a Cloud can stall if you pull too much on the bar or can loos its profile shape if you push too much. Deforming its profile is one of their capabilities to drift so well. They require more attention to bar pressure to keep them in the sweet spot. Whenever I use a standard strutted kite feels like driving a huge truck after piloting a sports car. Clouds go less upwind than strutted kites, specially 10 and 13m, but you have plenty of upwind ability from the foil anyway and they are not good for jumping. Even one strut kites feel so different and clumsy compared to Clouds. I've recently got an Airush Ultra Team 12m to replace my 10 and 13 Clouds looking for a different style of riding in low winds.Even if this is a super light kite for light wind it behaves totally different. It goes to the edge of the window which is good for horizontal speed and upwind ability which is what I want in low wind but not nearly as maneuverable and carvy as a Cloud. Different kites for different styles or riding. If you have the chance, try a Cloud or UFO. I love them but they are not for everybody.
@@glidejunkie Thanks for sharing your experience, it motivates me to go further in my learning. However, it takes good skills to ride like you! You ride really well and it's nice to see you with this good choice of music. Keep uploading more videos, Thanks!
I make my own boards. That's a 109 x 43 cm, 25mm thick. It's a 3 € isolation foam laminated in carbon fiber. Weight is 2300 gr with grip. I have put about 15000 km on it and works great. I have just fixed some dings and a slight delamitation around the front foot, and put new grip. So it's ready for some more years of fun. I am working on a new shorter (100cm) board with a little more volume, just to try different things.
SMOOTH!!! Love it
Qué bonito Carlos!!❤
Gracias!
I have been trying to cpy the way that you do tacks and 360s. Eeeeesh! It is difficult.
Have you ever tried a Flysurfer Hybrid or Peak? They are great in the waves but do not provide any lift.
Do you think that I will need to get a Cloud or UFO to do your tricks?
I had a 5m Peak. I liked the simplicity concept and how efficient it is for its size. The drift is also very good, even slightly better than Clouds. But I didn't like the the flutter feeling in the bar and the turning is not nearly as smooth as with Clouds. I used very short lines with the Peak trying to improve its turning speed, but this implies more crashing the kite in the water during failed kite loops and dealing with relaunching was a hassle (not with the Hybrid). So I sold my Peak very fast because I always chose the Clouds instead of the Peak. I know the hybrid relaunches well, but I assume the turning remains pretty similar to Peaks, and seeing and hearing how Hybrids fly I can see that the fluttering remains the same, unless you always keep some tension on the bar. This being said, this is just my personal preference and I am very used to Clouds over the years, but there are very good riders using Peaks and Hybrids doing all kind of tricks. Some former Cloud users have sold their clouds and now use Peaks. Clouds do not offer much passive lift neither, I don't think they are superior to Peaks in this regards. Unlike race kites that offer tons of lifts pulling the bar and give you plenty of time and lift for tacks, Clouds performance is linked to speed, so maneuvers are quick and a little more tricky. Although I like Clouds I am also open to other brands and designs. In fact I now own an Airush Ultra Team 12m for light wind days that is replacing my 10m and 13m Clouds for sub 10 knots days. Although both are light kites they are totally different concepts: Ultra sits at the edge of the wind window and the more you pull on the bar the more power generates so it's good for fast upwind straight courses. Clouds sit deep in the wind window are much faster to turn but not as good for going upwind in light wind and large Clouds stall easier if you pull too much on the bar. So for light wind, when carving fast is not that much fun, I am enjoying cruising with te Ultra
Thanks
Excellent! what is your foil setup?
Thanks, It's a Slingshot Phantasm PFH 657 wing with the short 653mm fuselage, the small 325 stabilizer and the long 102cm mast. Mounted on a homemade 109cm board
Hi, can you tell me where this kite spot is ? Nice video.
It is called Laida, in the river mouth of Mundaka River, right next to the world famous Mundaka wave, in the North of Spain
Looks fantastic. I will visit one day. Thank you.
@@regornel it is very beautiful and quiet during the week. Great place for winter South winds. I am often the only one foiling, like today. A bit tricky for foiling with shallow sand banks depending on tides, and winds from the mountains can be gusty
Hi what is your foil brand & size wing set , I kite foil the UFO 5m mostly + own a 4/6/7/8, am trying to learn carve 360s but it's hard! any tips? foil is duotone sls 90mast with GT700 wing set
Hi @peterferencak8995 I use a Slingshot Phantasm 657 which is 743 cm2. This falls in the same category as your foil. Relatively small, fast and carvy, but these foils need to keep some speed during maneuvers not to stall.These are some great tutorials:
th-cam.com/video/8JcW8ZkdQZc/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/fj-Wz9aafW0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/n2_CQrnq7Vw/w-d-xo.html (heel to toe tack)
My advice for heel side 360s would be: If possible try to learn it with a bigger foil that allows to do it at a slower speed. Start by pulling the back hand and start the carve upwind so the kite is vertical at 12 when the board is pointing to the wind. When learning do not lean backwards like in a twin tip back roll, instead, look under your armpit during rotation so that your weight stays vertically aligned with the mast; otherwise the foil will shoot around you, cutting the surface and you fall on your bum. At the same time look under your armpit, rotate your torso to help continuing the rotation. Keep pulling on the back hand so the kite doesn't stop and does a continuous loop. End the rotation with the end of the kiteloop to keep power during the whole rotation, and exit downwind doing only a 270º turn instead of 360º. This way, if you mess up the kite loop timing, you just keep following the kite downwind instead being pulled off the board by the kite. Once you are going downwind a little bit you can decide whether to keep turning the extra 90º to complete the 360 or bleed out some speed first if you are late with the kite loop.
Avoid an early kite loop not to be ejected backwards, which is unavoidable sometime during learning. If this happens always complete the kite loop as a priority even while you are flying backwards falling on your back.
Practice the body and kite movements on the beach first.
It is easier if you are a little powered to keep kite power throughout the whole turn. If you are overpowered the kite loop must be quick and over your head , like an helpi-loop. I hope it all makes sense ! Have fun practicing ?
@@glidejunkie Excellent and rare advice - it worked! I am delighted! This - "At the same time look under your armpit :)))) !!!!, rotate your torso to help continuing the rotation" I am happy and you should be happy too! I wish you good wind, bro! :)
@@AborigenAborigenovich glad it helped ! Looking under your armpit instead of looking over your shoulder is the single most important tip, as this puts you in a more vertical position over the mast, rather than leaning back. Moving the hips forward helps a lot too
@@glidejunkie I jump backrolls and frontrolls on a hydrofoil with straps and an 800 wing with a lightwind of 3.5 - 4 m/s on a 5 carrot kite of 17 meters. A large rigid kite is great for jumping in a lightwind. The 22.5 m lines and the upper Y provide fast downloops. The large kite holds clearly - I recommend it!!! On a hydrofoil under this kite I ride and jump high with a wind force of up to 8 m/s. Then you need to either take a TT or change the kite.
@@AborigenAborigenovich carrot kite? did you mean a Contra kite?
what cloud kite you riding there?
that's a 6.2 m
@@glidejunkie Is there a big difference beteen the cloud kite and a ozone reo for exemple?
@@cfabi65 yes, huge difference. I haven't tried a Reo but Clouds are so different to any other kite, except Slingshot UFO which is based on Clouds. Reo is a standard strutted wave kite, I have used Neo in 6, 8 and 10m which is equivalent to Reo. Cloud is much quicker to react due to its lightness, thin leading edge and low aspect ratio. Clouds drift much more than any strutted kite and react to bar movement with slack lines. Clouds stay in the air with much less wind. They never overshot you past your head. They are used differently in the bar movement because a Cloud can stall if you pull too much on the bar or can loos its profile shape if you push too much. Deforming its profile is one of their capabilities to drift so well. They require more attention to bar pressure to keep them in the sweet spot.
Whenever I use a standard strutted kite feels like driving a huge truck after piloting a sports car. Clouds go less upwind than strutted kites, specially 10 and 13m, but you have plenty of upwind ability from the foil anyway and they are not good for jumping. Even one strut kites feel so different and clumsy compared to Clouds. I've recently got an Airush Ultra Team 12m to replace my 10 and 13 Clouds looking for a different style of riding in low winds.Even if this is a super light kite for light wind it behaves totally different. It goes to the edge of the window which is good for horizontal speed and upwind ability which is what I want in low wind but not nearly as maneuverable and carvy as a Cloud. Different kites for different styles or riding. If you have the chance, try a Cloud or UFO. I love them but they are not for everybody.
@@glidejunkie Thanks for sharing your experience, it motivates me to go further in my learning. However, it takes good skills to ride like you! You ride really well and it's nice to see you with this good choice of music.
Keep uploading more videos, Thanks!
Such a nice cruising ❤!
Do you like jumping?
I have done it a few times, but I don't use straps, so it's not easy. I am making a new reinforced board with straps for jumping
Cool! You are designer of boards!
Jumping is fun sometimes :)@@glidejunkie
Nice
That's a nicely shaped board. Who made it? It looks like a Ketos board, but I would guess it's not since you're using a Slingshot Phantasm foil.
I make my own boards. That's a 109 x 43 cm, 25mm thick. It's a 3 € isolation foam laminated in carbon fiber. Weight is 2300 gr with grip. I have put about 15000 km on it and works great. I have just fixed some dings and a slight delamitation around the front foot, and put new grip. So it's ready for some more years of fun. I am working on a new shorter (100cm) board with a little more volume, just to try different things.
@@glidejunkie 15000km? Damn!
@@tupla7095 yeap, about 5 - 6000 km logged per year. That's the problem with addictions ! :-)))