The Sony BURANO is... weird.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Two steps forward, two steps back.
0:00 Intro
0:44 Build quality
1:25 Image quality
1:52 Playback speed
2:09 Home Screen
2:25 CFexpress 4.0 Type B
2:57 E-mount lenses
3:39 Silly output formats
5:10 OSD Overlays
5:26 Rolling shutter
6:26 The best viewfinder ever designed
7:43 FFc 6K downsampling
8:58 My biggest disappointment
9:58 Example footage
11:30 Price
12:15 Outro
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Great overview man. You taught me a lot about the Burano in this video and also made me realize it’s not for me.. GAS eliminated.
They gotta make a smaller one / less specs only makes sense
@@WalterTheBalterthey do it’s called the FX6 lol
😂@@mondobytes
@@mondobytes its not a box w xlr on the body
@@WalterTheBalter Didn't you say they need to make one with less specs, make up your mind dude! The XLR is on the handle, works great and it's $20,000 cheaper. lol
I've been waiting for you and Cranky Camerman to review the Burano. I'm so happy that both of you released your vids within a few days. You're one of the few individuals I trust with honest REAL LIFE reviews. Thank you for sharing.
Cranky cameraman is great!
A $25k camera with terrible rolling shutter? I don't get it
I own 2 Burano's and Robert is right, it's weird. It makes a beautiful image, especially 8K Raw where it really shines. The button layout is great, I like the vari-ND, IBIS and AF options. The SDI outputs and overlays are ridiculous for a camera in 2024. I think the rolling shutter is mostly a non-issue for me, I don't whip pan the camera in my work. If only SONY had a consultant with on-set experience to guide them with the design... it could have been so much better.
Great review, thanks for your honesty and not getting caught up in Sony's reality distortion field and defending all the problems with Burano like some others have. Bummer about the issues with Burano. You can't return the camera even if you wanted to, as the camera is non-returnable in nearly every store I checked. I wanted to love the Burano, and had a pre-order when announced, but when I saw the first batch of footage I cancelled my order. To my eyes the camera is very close to the FX6, and nobody has ever requested 8K footage. It's complete bullis**t that the camera has bad rolling shutter, neutered output options, and awful IR pollution. I've put up with these problems with so many cameras in the past, that I can't imagine dealing with them on a $25K camera. The FX6 continues to be the best value for a "professional looking" camera from Sony.
in the UK you can return anything that does not meet the sellers description if it is not 'fit for purpose' the contract is between you and the seller.. just most shops try and fob you off.
Me, sitting here in 2024 still shooting 1080 for 99% of the things, and just stoked to have 10 bit and the VND on my FX6, while also totally wanting a camcorder again. Hoping we see the announcement of a direct Sony competitor to the XF605 at NAB!
I loved the random dog in the frame!
What dog?
@@robchado LOL are you filipino?
Same!!
Nice stuff man. Thanks for putting the leg work in on this!
Great video Rob! Super detailed, and hit all the marks for what we needed to know. Venice seems like the best move.
Really nice to see someone who acknowledges the Burano’s strengths yet isn’t reviewing it like some starry-eyed fanboy. The IR pollution issue to me seems to be a critical flaw, even if it can be filtered with hot mirrors. Part of the beauty of this camera system is the one man owner operator/small crew, who requires superior image quality above and beyond the FX series cameras. But keep in mind, Sony almost always releases a major firmware update after the camera begins selling, so the camera doesn’t really become “as advertised” until about a year later.😂
(Owner of an FS7 and FX6 here 👋)
Can you still make decent music videos with FS7?
@@boxoffisaWho said anything about music videos... I was talking about Sony's history with firmware updates. That said, the FS7 is still a perfectly usable camera for a lot of corporate/broadcast projects. It's more about skills of the operator rather than "magic gear." That said, I usually shoot FX6 with a7S3 as a b-cam and the FS7 ends up being a third angle as I can color match it well enough to the other two cams in S-log3. But honestly, it's very rare that I break out the FS7 these days with an FX6 in-house.
@@boxoffisayou can still make decent music videos with a 5D. It’s all about lighting.
If you’re going for an FS7, at least get the mark 2. Even an FS5ii could be fantastic for a first camera.
Lighting, lighting, lighting.
Allowing IR in helps keep “sensitivity”. Manufacturers ride that line. Ideally they’d want no IR blocking so their sensors would perform much better in lower light but they know reality and they’d be called to the mat over it. It would be nice if they all just blocked it and let us remove it when we want. But, these new mirrorless mounts/spacing just don’t allow it much. Anyway, great review dude… Really liked it. Burano is a great camera with some limitations. Man, if it was priced at $15K, they’d sell 4X as many..
I agree!
They should have just taken the F55 body style, dropped a Venice I sensor in it, painted it gun metal grey, then youd have a winner.
This is an A1 in a trenchcoat with XOCN LT.
Absolutely - the F5 and F55 were a giant leap, in form factor and usability (I love the body and button layout). I'm still shooting on mine. It's worth noting that the F5 had multiple improvement firmware updates that increased frame rate and recording resolution - I hope Sony will do the same for the Burnao.
dope video - you might not be the biggest channel - but the content in this video seems super real compared to others and compared to some of your others - thank you for making this one
Sony would rather just keep spitting out one new camera after another while they forget about the ones they've already sold.
That VPG400 certification is only important on long, full bandwidth takes. Heatsoak is where non-certified media comes up short. When they heat up, the data rates drop. VPG400 is a minimum rate requirement. But, if you don’t ever hit the data rate that heatsoak has prevented, you’re golden.
8:26 is what cured my GAS and made me stay with a7s3 - nobody will tell the difference anyway. It's sometimes even hard to justify renting out the FX6 let alone an FX9 or alexa when you could spend that money on things that everyone notices - like lightning, audio and set design.
I was super hyped for Burano but it just feels like another Sony flop.
The minions reference really helped me better understand what your feelings were towards Burano. hah! Thank for the great video, Robert!
That part hit me hard. It's the Burano roller coaster man. Lot's of ups, lots of downs. While interesting, I don't suggest getting on the ride at this time though. 😛
great video rob!
fantastic review, appreciate the honesty and transparency
I wish people would just say it more bluntly... That EVF design is absolutely unacceptably bad, it's a £25k camera and the only design they came up with was this awful thing... Sony had a crutch to stand on in the FS7 days but not since then, yet we still just label it as "Not very good" or "pretty silly design" when it's absolutely stupid for a company that could do better, and this extends to the monitor overlays etc.
Ultimately the EVF, IR pollution and lack of Open Gate has killed the camera to me even as a rental option, and if this is what is offered at £25k, I have little expectations with the FX9 and FX6 MK II other than very very minor improvements to their poor design in the Mk I.
Great video as always, wish people would be less afraid to really say how bad some of Sony's design really is.
Thank you for the video Robert! The outputs are also my biggest concern. Looking forward for the accessories video. With so many takes out there (Zacuto, mid49, wooden camera, bright tangerine etc), I would love to know what are your choices and why!
Great video. Audio sounded like it had a slight echo from wall bounce.
great review and very well explained, please share your first imporessions on BM Pyxis 6k also.
Excellent video. After watching countless Burano videos. Ive come to the conclusion my F55 with the R7 is still my favorite workhorse. Thanks for the review!
great video. when the fx6 is next to the burano the noticeable differences are so small I'm not sure it's worth the extra 19k....
3:33 sorry, I got distracted here cuz I was delighted by your dog in the frame. 🥺🥰🤗🤗🤗
Bro this is dope. Thank you for you time. This has helped me A LOT!!!
Thanks for the detailed and honest review!!
Sony needed to price this camera much lower considering the features. Great review mate!
Yep, $12k to $16k max
Love this honest review!! The limitations take me out of the market for this camera.
I love the straightforward honesty in the information you shared. Thanks.
Great review thanks for sharing.
Sooo good video! I don't use cinema cameras, my best is Canon R6II, so you see how far I am... but I appreciate all the info, truly amazing content.
Well done great overview
VERY helpful video, thanks Robert.
no global shutter instantly removed this camera for me. If i'm paying that much it better be a proper cinema camera.
Thanks for being honest Rob. Very insightful.
Great honest review, I feel about the same way; quirky to a fault, but still does a lot of things really well for small crews/ solo ops. One thing I think worth mentioning is the power draw. In LT, a 98w batt lasts about 1hr 45min depending on other AKS. In AVC it's over 2.5hr! Which is great for doc and solo shooting, something the Venice certainly cannot do.
Using a screw on IR filter or mattebox with one is an easy fix, but also kind of defeats the purpose of the built in ND system. Clearly the same design team as the EVF loupe...
I think for Version 1.1, it's a rough start, but Sony should be able to fix some of the quality of life things like SDI overlays, more recording modes, higher framerates, and add false color in future firmware updates. I think this time next year it will be the camera we were all actually expecting.
One can hope! You make a great point about the power draw in XAVC for doc solo shooting that I forgot to mention.
I've thought about running a lightweight clip on matte box with an IR cut but like you said, it kind of defeats the purpose of internal NDs...
Honestly that's why I stick with Arri in most scenario.. leave the image quality aside it's just such simple camera and no such weird issue. every time Sony makes the lower-tier camera it feels like it has been crippled or downgrade in some way.
Great video! Thx 🙏
Nice review! and it’s so weird that the camera doesn't have opengate mode at this price range. Nobody is talking about its anamorphic mode.
25k with rolling shutter like that is egregious
Hat‘s of to you Rob. You are one of the best reviewers out there. Allways honest and no bullshit. Keep it that way and we will check out you videos for ever.
I came to the same findings as you. That‘s why I canceld my order. I‘m a RED owner from the first second. Wanted a great AF. Now with Nikon on board we will get it soon with global shutter.
As you said its a mixed bag. Lots of good but also crazy No Gos.
I appreciate your work very much. Rock on. 👍🏼
Thanks for the follow up video. I'm testing my Burano with surf videos. But I notice that when I don't tap people on the monitor to trigger focus, I get unsharp images (they aren't unusably blurred, but still not on focus). I set my Subject Recognition AF to Human priority and using Sony 200-600. Also I'm using Sony ECM-VG1 shotgun mic XLR and it doesn't seem to work.
Also, thanks for your MID49 advice. It's a good quick fix.
Solid and authentic review - thank you.
Getting flashbacks to my a6300 rolling shutter. Never going back to that! Sticking with my FX9 for reality/doc work.
the FX9 has a readout speed of 22.2ms in full frame which is even slower than the Burano (18.2ms)
The biggest drawback is the price mainly considering the rolling shutter performance which isn't great. Should be around 15K, it would be a much more interesting camera for most production companies and indie filmmakers.
I'm confident that Sony will release a major firmware update to improve some of its limitations as they usually do for the Cinema Line cameras though. For example, the FX3 was massively improved since its launch through firmware updates, it's essentially a new camera nowadays with the added Cine EI mode, 4K DCI, true 24FPS, lens breathing compensation, shutter angle coming in September among others features.
Good job on the video.
thanks for the video, i was excited about the Burano, but now i'm gonna stick with the FX6 for a while
also very honest review at the end.
Crazy that the FX6 is still such a more usable camera than the Burano. Looks like it will still be a standard until they release something better. Burano has been a big miss for me so far which is a shame, was looking forward to its release.
The burano would be an amazing fx9 mkii but that pricepoint for these features ... WOW i do not know how this should compete with the red v raptor... trading all of the red features in just for AF, ND and Sensor Stabilisation ... Sony really needs to come down with the price an spend a lot of time in firmware upgrades
They really seem to have shot themselves in the foot with this camera. Now that the Burano exists, it likely means there won't be an FX9II, because the Burano basically IS that.
But it's almost twice the cost of the FX9. So people who were hoping to upgrade from the FX9 to a true FX9II in the 10-15,000 price range, now have been priced out.
I love how the F55 had a global shutter 11 years ago
global shutter but with a Sony 'video' look (not cinematic)
@@phrasalsyntaxMarco Polo on Netflix was shot with a F55 and it looks more "cinematic" than 90% of shows made today. If you can't get a great image from the F55 it's 100% user error
@@phrasalsyntaxexcept that it was A cam on Insidious 3, Deliver us from evil, Overboard, Barbershop the next cut, B cam and more things you can shake a stick, and ALL over TV with Blacklist and tons of other stuff. It uses (as of right now) X-OCN and the Slog 3 of the other cams. Now what was your cam used on?
The card at 10:00 is missing, other than that tho - amazing video and information about the camera
Great job! Thank you so much!!! 🏆
A camera this expensive should not have rolling shutter. That is unacceptable imo.
Thanks for this. I had a pre order and bailed. So much to like about the camera but agree that some of the built in flaws were too hard to swallow at the price. Ended up grabbing a V-Raptor - needed the high frame rates and despite the annoying patents RedCode is still quite good.
Yooooooo that rolling shutter is a NOGO hands down
Hey Robert, I have a question about the 7 cam set up. Did you have a good remote iris control system? I was wondering because i have a live recording show coming up and was looking in to a solid system that could adjust Iris on the fly remotely. Thanks Robert
Nice breakdown man, refreshing to see such an objective & honest viewpoint after dishing out $25k
This is an excellent review!
How good is the dynamic range? I am looking for an improvement over the Sony A7SIII.
wow very informal, thanks for the video
Great review
thank you for your honesty
The thing I like about this camera is that it is possible to have ibis and eND in the body. So will wait for a fx6 mark II with this feature alone.
Lots of good critical information I haven’t seen anywhere else.
Have been considered upgrading from the Canon C500 II to this however I really just can't see the value, would love to see a image comparison especially after the latest RAW update to the Canon however I highly doubt its worth the price tag jump with all the drawbacks that come with it.
What lens and mount were you using when you saw the IR light pollution? If you notice they shipped shims and from my understanding it was to fix this issue as there is supposed to be a little light leak from the PL mount
Both E-mount and PL. 🫤
If I we're you, I would be returning the camera. The cons mentioned, especially the readout speed and IR pollution are laughable for a $25K camera that was just released in 2024. From everything i've seen and heard its definitely to up to par with other brands, and not even anywhere near up to par with the Venice 1 or 2.
love your videos!!!
It feels like there are still technical issues to work out to get global shutter working on a Sony cine camera.
I'm a cinematographer since 2003...mainly on Tv commercials. Recently bought the Burano and almost completely agree with your opinion 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Its great to have people like you doing HONEST reviews, very detailed intended to advanced users. Thank you for not being biased like so many "fanboys" or sponsored by brands' marketing videos...
Well done 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Great point, Venice 1 pkg then add a FX6 pkg when needing AF near the same investment as a Burano pkg.
Weird. I don't have the IR pollution issues or the soft 6K. Wonder if it's a unit to unit thing.
SOLID review Rob, freagin SOLID man. Always appreciate the detail you put in and real thoughts. This should be Sony's official review video 👍👍
They might make even less sales if it were their official video 😂
I'm lost. If it's the same sensor as the A9 III, how does it still have rolling shutter?
The IR on this is a bummer. Been using the FX series and Venice for the longest time but never saw it creep soooo much on these.
Great review Robert!
Thank you for your honesty.
@3:04 what lens is that?
I feel like this should have had a lower resolution sensor, higher frame rates, & a much lower rolling shutter. Would serve just about as well for everything people will actually use it for & be great for wildlife documentary. E Mount glass & fantastic AF.
Was super excited when it was announced last year. Currently own a V-RAPTOR and the major pros the BURANO was announced with (for me anyways) would be the IBIS, Internal NDs, and Autofocus. I was fully expecting to switch over. However, if the NDs are pretty much useless and rolling shutter is less than ideal I'm not seeing this to be as much competition to the V-RAPTOR as I had originally expected.
I agree with everything you stated in the video and your honesty on the flaws/cons. My only question would be and I am sorry in advance if the question is annoying. Some of these things would be fixed in major firmware updates? I almost bought one of these but now I feel like waiting till I see the one or two year time span of firmware fixes and updates. You'd think for this price point the real issues you addressed in the video wouldn't exist on release but here we are. Sadness.
that floff cutie on back at 3:31 must be Director of this Review hem hem hem hem
Can’t believe the rolling shutter on that one
Can you not black balance with the NDs enabled to mitigate the IR pollution or is it just too dark in that process for it to matter at all?
Will never buy the camera due to the output nonsense. The IR is my second biggest issue, glad you mentioned it. In terms of price & offering, FX6 is still king imo. Venice 1 perhaps in second place…?
Great video as always
I tested BURANO and the described problem with ND did not manifest itself. We tried both tungsten light (3200K) and exterior light.
If you need that Sony full frame anamorphic you're going to have to shell out for a Venice. The 1.6x anamorphic stretches out to 2x when using 16:9 sensor, which works well for very sharp anamorphic lenses because it softens the image up. You can use an FX3/A7S III with FX30 so you can digitally zoom in, which you can't do with a Blazar Remus.
Best overview I seen so far, with real world scenarios.
Watching this like I can afford this camera
Solid video brother, the Raptor X definitely seems like a better buy if you don’t need great Autofocus
Could you purchase just a .3 IRND and use it in combo with the internal electronic ND? Or would you need an entire set of IRND? Thanks
Yes, I'll discuss this in the next video.
Just proves to me how much my C500mkii was ahead of it's time.
Great video - I've been considering the Burano but sounds like typical Sony needing to address some key elements that not ready for prime time. That IR polution issue is really the one that Sony needs to address. Hopefully they reach out to you.
They have...
@@robchado Thats good to hear since that's beyond a firmware fix. I 100% agree about that EVF cable too - same complaint with the use of it on the FX9 and FX6. It's a terrible connector! Looking forward to the promised extension cable from Mid49.
hey would make a cool astro camera with all that IR!! lol
Great honest review. It's interesting to see the some of the odd choices sony made with design and resolutions. I rememberst Kando two years again I talked to the engineers and told them a similar design. I guess a few things were lost in transitional haha. The fact that you said its a better s35 camera cracks me up. But like you said, it all depends how you use the camera. It's how I feel about my mavo. It does what I need it to do.
See you at NAB
Interesting editing😂
For a second I thought your dog was stuffed, and then I finally saw him move lol
5:41 wait lol you filmed Keiran Lee? 😂
Is the rolling shutter worse than FX6 or FX9?
$25k camera with rolling shutter???? WTF?? No way!! Should be global shutter!!😮