You know how they post weird versions of the characters on their social media in different art styles, I thought it was just a gag like those and didn't realise it was a genuine show. Feel like this was 3 years too late and it's missed it's peak
@@zanimus666 I would have made an attempt to watch it, but only if the framerate was faster than if I was laggy in like any game. It’s seriously so bad.
I honestly felt a lot of emotions watching it. Maybe I'm just overly sentimental to these kinds of stories or something but there was something heavy about it idk!
Its good to see that some people on youtube still have nuanced takes, seriously though it feels like we've devolved into "piece of media is either good or bad", when oftentimes deeply flawed media has some of the most interesting ideas (heck this own comment section is guilty of this).
@@Fantomstranger but the clone wars aren’t the prequals. Not really. They’re basically a giant retcon to make those movies passable. The Anakin in clone wars is not the same one from the movies. In clone wars you learn why they play sad music over crab face, boobs, and Indian ladies death in revenge of the Sith. Ultimately the point still stands that the prequals have great ideas but horrid execution
I got the vibes that Frank is a version of Elle or a combination of Elle and Long-Haired Rick that exists due to the experiments. Could be wrong though. It could just be Takashi Sano putting himself in the series.
That's genuinely how I was feeling too!!! At that last episode, Frank was giving me this vibe like he was that love that Ellie had or something. But do you remember how Mordy kind of inspired Frank to be a man in the first episode? And then he was talking about how he wouldn't take off that suit because he wanted to be a man for Morty? I think essentially what's going on is that Morty saved Frank and that changed the course of their lives and they became really close friends. It's genuinely strange. I want to know more about this character, I'm honestly intrigued.
The fact that all the marketing was just “your favorite show…but ANIME” proved that the whole selling point was just “Thing, Japan”. Fr tho, I can hardly believe that Rick and Morty was once hailed as the crowning jewel of adult animation, now they just released a show nobody cares about six years late to the party
The biggest issue I have with the anime fan community is somehow the idea that anime is superior to all other mediums and artforms. This is an incredibly dumb take courtesy of people who want to appear smarter without actually being curious enough to explore the wide range of stories we have throughout the world, to justify their outright xenophilia and lack of intellectual prowess through the façade of sophistication. Which funnily enough, is also the stereotype of Rick and Morty fans. Do I think the anime industry has more more good things about versus say, Western animation? Sure they respect animation and voice acting in ways we simply do not do in the west on a cultural level, but you have some fans treating anime as the pinnacle of maturity and culture. This is akin to saying you are a literary critic because you read Harry Potter, or that AI art is comparable to Salvador Dali.
@@PeripheralVisionary.I personally do enjoy way more anime than live action or western animated shows on average, but that's just because anime's overall style and japanese writng often appeals to me more. But I don't think it's superior. There are live action shows and western animation that I like very much, but generally when I look for shows I will usually look for anime ones, because the variety with western ones can feel stiff even if I am looking for past shows. Which with live action often comes with a limit of what they can feasibly do. But it becomes way varied, what I watch, when comes to movies. Because what they make in any type becomes way more varied. So I agree that people should be open to more variety, but some times the lack thereof is actually the problem
@@RomapolitanThe lack of variety really is not the problem, depending on the context. I am criticizing the baffling idea that anime is most sophisticated and intellectual entertainment media, but this is not remotely true. There’s so much more in the world, from the works of Ben Bova to LeGuin, plays from Hadestown and Wicked to films like Oldboy. This “anime” would not exist if people did not believe that there was something intrinsic to anime that is not present in western animation, which is not entirely false, but at the end of the day this is still an animation adaptation of an existing cartoon. That’s just silly. R&M would not be better simply if it was made in Japan. The idea that anime is intrinsically just better is an idea that sprouts from a lack of curiosity, a justification for why people don’t seek better artwork but want to pretend what they consume is high art or superior to the common chafe. It’s deeply annoying Reddit tiered pseudo-intellectualism.
@@PeripheralVisionary. Well yeah, they were certainly trying to cash in on the anime crowd. I am not sure if they were at all counting anime perceived as a superior medium. In fact I have seen this kind of take in all circles. There are people who love western animation but think anime is trash because of preconceived notions. There are people who think that everything always should be live action, which is probably the reason why we constantly get live action remakes. Anime is just popular and so they chased a trend. And nobody in the anime community really cared because most there don't even care about R&M. Funnily enough I knew all the examples you gave in different media.
Every time I look up Rick and Morty on Hulu, I get a mini heart attack when it says it's locked behind an add-on, but it's just the anime that's locked, not the original.
12:15 "I think Jerry is seen as slightly less pathetic overall. Rick defends him in ways that main-line Rick would not be caught dead doing." Still not as brilliant a character as Rick's mate, Dougie, the Bush Wizard. He knows how to treat earthworm bites.
I didn't mind it. It would be nice to see other Rick & Morty spinoffs based on other dimensions. They don't have to play into the main story, but as a one offs miniseries based around other variants of the Smith family.
god im so mad they didnt pull this narrative off it sounds so cool and if they had a year longer with the story and script and had test audiences they couldve made this show of the year cause those twists and turns so couldve worked
@@abbie_joan art doesn’t have to be original to be good or popular. JJK is inspired by a bunch of other anime, Stanger Things is inspired by 80s movies and eldritch horror, and there are a million murder games shows but Squid Game was still good.
Honestly, this show reminded me of times when anime used to be unapologetically chaotic and confusing on purpose to keep the mystery going, like Texhnolyze or Serial Experiments Lain. You can dislike the show, but saying you don't understand the plot after one episode is completely stupid.
I really expected it to end in the last minute or so with the original art style with Rick and Morty on the couch watching inter-dimensional cable, and being like “was that supposed to be us?” And Morty being “ooooh Rick did you see that Elle girl!? Maybe I’ll meet her or something, oh geeze!” Or something lol
20:34 - Just remembered, I think Space Beth does exist in some other universes/timelines, because we saw that the "parmesian" universe/timeline the family moved to at the end of Solaricks had a Space Beth that she replaced.
I agree with the theories that Frank is an alternate version of Elle that was created as a result of all of Long Haired Rick's experiments. That or he's someone that Space Morty saved who also got roped into the new universe.
I outright love this series for what it is, and for what many others find confusing, I find intriguing. I love how the series made me think and theorize, reflect on the interactions and the reveals. I enjoyed it throughout. I can understand why others don't like it, but I'm a supporter.
thank you so much for this. i haven’t seen it yet but now ill definitely watch. it’s so intriguing to me and r&m is such a great backdrop for story telling im very invested
I actually like the idea of her in this case because it IS cliche to have the perfect anime waifu. If they had leaned more into the ironic humor of it (or humor period, like the video mentions) and the fact of the whole show’s existence, it could’ve been something more memorable.
I don't know, with some very few exceptions, most of the time when Western writers and artists try to parody anime it feels flat, I mean, every time there's a anime parody on a Western cartoon it always ends up parodying, Speed Racer, Sailor Moon, Pokémon, Dragon Ball Z, Ghibli in general (particularly My Neighbor Totoro), AKIRA, Naruto and mecha in general (most of the time it's either Voltron or Evangelion)
@@pablocasas5906 No I agree, anime parodies in western media always follow the same format of "_charecter name_ chan, we must fight the honourable fight" "N-nani?? _c-charecter name _ Senpai??" It gets stale, I appreciate this take on anime even if it fell flat in some aspects
@@BirdParsons I know, I was just talking about when Western shows or media in general parody or pay homage to anime I'd say that the problem with the Rick and Morty anime has to do more with the story itself. There have been plenty of Japanese interpretations of Western stories and plenty of them have turned out much better
The Jerry superhero plot is admittedly a really fun idea for a superhero. It’s making me imagine a superhero that doesn’t even know they are one until their sidekick transforms them whenever danger is afoot. Like, they don’t even realize they’re a superhero in day-to-day life until a villain shows up and all of a sudden it’s “OHHH YEAH I’m a superhero!” Maybe it’s like a werewolf where they wake up the next morning covered in bruises and feeling really sore with no idea why? LOL. The sidekick would definitely have to be a roommate or something, maybe someone who got unwillingly roped into being this person’s sidekick (because I imagine there would have to be some reason why the super hero can’t always remember who they are). Could make for some good character conflicts too 👀 someone needs to make this!
@@HomodemonTrigger has a certain style They’re asking for trigger for a reason Don’t forget this is the company KNOWN for stuff like this (Kill la kill, FLCL especially and PASWG) they They’re literally the “weird anime’s with good animation” studio.
The anime version feels like it was planned when people were rioting for Saskatchewan sauce or whatever, and when it seemed like R+M was a license to print money. Then the franchise shat itself inside out and they still had this in development, so they just sort of launched it.
You said its a mess and you didnt like it but as of 10:43 i am actually now sold on watching this despite saying i wasnt going to and thought it looked like trough slop
Idk I feel like frank is supposed to be a manifestation of mortys feelings about the other morty that died, Frank's job is a metaphor of loving el? Again idk just my theory
Without having watched it at all, just from your description, I'm guessing 'Frank' is either some kind of incarnation of L's original Morty, brought in by whatever portal fluid nonsense rick described in another clip you played, or else it's a big meta joke about the character 'paul' from modern spiderman comics - the guy who MJ is with these days. This was also the first negative review that ever made me decide I *need* to watch the thing to figure it out myself though, so I'm gonna check it out now and see if I come up with a better answer. Edit: OK, one episode in, it seems clear to me there are at least 3 different realities in play, and in at least one of them Frank is Morty's secret romantic interest, a la the implied backstory for Jerry and Sleepy Gary. Not expecting to get much more from it than that at this point, other than as a hint that almost everyone in the 'video game' thinks they themselves are the players, and everyone else is an NPC.
Same. I was previously content to just ignore Rick and Morty: The Anime, but now, despite the fact I probably won't straightforwardly enjoy it, this review has convinced me that I should to give it a go.
No Morty is Morty, when the VR headset broke, Morty wasn't in VR he was living in another universes Morty. Rick mentions this in the episode. You can also tie it back to long hair Rick who was basically waking up in other universes Ricks bodies.
Frank is probably a representation of what it feels like to main universe Morty of knowing Space Morty’s existence, a man who was more successful, more respected, etc, which would explain why the jealousy was so strong and drove him away Haven’t watched the show myself but I see the parallels in how you described both relationships, especially if you imagine what it must feel like to know the person you love is in love with a “better” man. Except it was depicted externally in VR as another man, but likely was an internal struggle in life.
The anime was like an inter-dimensional cable version of Rick and Morty, so it should have just been a single full episode. Maybe do an Animatrix thing with a series of one-off different styles each episode.
On the topic of people judging after the first episode because they found it confusing... Steins;Gate also does something similar, with a lot of stuff in the first episode not making sense until later, but it does that in a much better way than the Rick and Morty anime and it at least gives you enough to care about the characters, so I'd say it was fair to judge R&M from the first episode alone.
I mean I agree that Steins Gate does it better, but my dude you're literally saying its fair to judge a show from its first episode, there are so many cases where that would completely mislead you to a shows quality (even that of short planned stuff like this) that I don't even think I need to list them.
@@EnigmaticGentleman the first episode of a shows job is to introduce you to the characters and make you want to watch it. If the first episode can’t do that then at the very least the marketing should do that. You can make the first 15 minutes of a movie confusing but you can’t make the first 15 minute episode of a show confusing that’s just not how people watch shows, they will leave and they will not come back. Hell I watched the first 3 episodes and was absurdly bored and uninterested in the story. It never once got interesting in the first 3 episodes
I didn't even finish steins gate and I actually LIKED the first episode of it even tho I was really confused... This one kinda just made me so disinterested
steins gate kinda does this to the extent that the first episode is confusing and makes sense later but its not achronological; a better example would be baccano!
@@UnluckyLilly well that's exactly why the 3 ep rule exists. Yeah there's some shows that are so obviously bad from the get go, but the sheer amount of shows that are basically flawless beside the first ep not being the best is too many to be able to judge on the first ep imo
16:00 Frank was the bully who hit on Elle that Morty stood up too when they were in highschool. I'll also quickly add that technically Morty wasn't in a VR world, he was living in another Mortys universe, Rick mentioned this when they were trying to get him out, when the head set broke whatever was supposed to be simulated no longer was, you can also tie it back to when long hair Rick was waking up in other universes Ricks. But back to Frank. I think it's supposed to be inferred Frank being stood up to made him fix his life and feels like indebted to Morty for this change. I think Frank was mostly put in to be a sort of a mechanism of antagonism to Morty, but clearly Morty, and his jealousy of not still being better then his old bully was his own antagonism. But yeah the last episode is entirely just a what if, what if Morty and Elle were able to live a life outside of time, the space government, and Rick. I don't really blame anyone for not understanding Frank the bully was the same older Frank because of the hair change, I didn't realize it at first till later in the episode. But it kinda felt loosely shoe horned in, but at the same time I think if there wasn't any sort of antagonism the whole what if episode would just be a slideshow of Morty living his best life, when life is messy. But the show ended the episode before, that last bit was entirely inconsequential.
That bully's name was Toby, he is an entirely different guy! Different design, different voice, different everything. SO many people have delivered entirely different explanations for who Frank is and I think it's proof that the show fumbled that part of the story massively.
@@Johnny2Cellos Yeah, then it makes a lot less sense. At least them being the same person made a functional theory as to the motivations for why it happened for the what if episode. But this just feels way more shoe horned. Also the other comment I posted was supposed to be a reply in a thread? Not sure how it posted as it's own comment. Either way I deleted all my theory comments except for the VR wasn't a simulation comments. I'll just leave this one up tho. Tbh I never really seen a reason for the what if episode, I consider the show over at 9.
It reminds me about watching the second to last season of Arrested Development. The season was a drag to go through and you feel the difference in the show to how it was previously. It ties together well and a bunch of plot points have new meanings which allow the viewer to rewatch and understand jokes that were set up for a pay off later. The only problem with that is that if you didn't enjoy it the first time it is still a slog to go through again. I actually never watched the last season because the previous one just left a bad impression.
I was wondering what your thoughts on the anime were, and I'm glad you made this video, yours is easily the best take on it I've seen on TH-cam. This was a refreshingly fair discussion of the anime's highlights and missteps in being a fundamentally different take on Rick & Morty that unfortunately undermined itself by being both too different in characterization/tone/humor and yet not separated enough from the original. I personally lean towards liking the show, in particular I really liked episodes 7 and 10 and found the latter to work really well for me in its themes and emotional moments, but I think how the narrative was presented in the first couple episodes was very disorienting in a way that made it hard to latch onto until things starting clicking around the middle. So I agree, I too am glad the anime exists for its experimentation and highlights, but I think calling it a monument to failed potential is a great way to describe it. Though that said, I would be interested in them doing another Rick & Morty anime with a different director and take that's more tonally closer to the original or to the style of comedy/action people might expect when they envision what a Rick and Morty anime should be like. I think a Rick & Morty anime made by Studio Trigger, for instance, would be pretty fun. Or even get Masaru Matsumoto, the director of the Great Yokai Battle of Akihabara short, since his take was pretty comedic and over the top in a way that fits better with what I think a lot of R&M fans would've expected/preferred from an R&M anime. Speaking of Adult Swim-produced anime that are monuments to failed potential, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts and see you do a video on the Uzumaki anime, which despite its promising first episode I think is unfortunate that both it and the R&M anime came out around the same time to similar levels of backlash as it went along and have soured a lot of people on the idea of Adult Swim producing their own anime entirely.
I agree completely about how obnoxious it is that they are pretending the anime is a part of the mainline show. The show would have felt a lot better if they did what the comics do and just make their own universe for the story.
I think if they refined the story a bit more and had...actually appealing art to look at, this would be an interesting anime if it was its own original work and NOT Rick and Morty.
I didn’t really have a problem with expectations vs. reality on this series. For me, what breaks it is how the story is told. The story seems so convoluted and opaque for so long that it’s hard to even appreciate when it gives you answers because the emotional investment is gone. Maybe it would have been better if it was more comedic, since at least then the confusion could be played for laughs, but in the absence of that, it feels like you have to do a lot of homework to get this show and connect with the drama. Doesn’t help that the sakuga is hit or miss, to say the least.
3:25-3:56 Baccano! did this exact same thing and it ended up being one of the best animes of its time (and maybe all time). The anime itself disrespect linearity in its entire run, but special mention goes to the first episode, which is like a jumbled sequence of events without much order. It was designed to give intrigue, but act more like something you go back to after it's over and go "Oooohhhh it all makes sense now!" In a way, the first episode of Baccano! is meant to be viewed first _and_ last.
Spoilers and Frank interpretation: My interpretation of Frank was that Frank was the headset itself, especially since the reintroduction of Frank was right after it cut back to the real world during the virtual sequence only for us to see the headset spark with red sparks. While the short scene is meant to set up some tension in the viewer by making it feel like everything with the headset may not be alright, which leads to the Summer/Rick real world side plot to get Morty out before he ends up Sword Art Online'd by the headset. Other than this, the only other decent explanation I can think of for the transcending properties of Frank would be that he is a member of the same race as Elle, however never encounter Frank unless the headset is involved which leaves me leaning towards him being the headset. However, they are likely not getting that second season they teased at the very end.
Honestly, if given its own show with a more fleshed out plot line and different coat of paint, Elle’s conundrum would be a really cool aspect to build a story out of. Really cool and ambitious stuff.
The first episode should hook you into a series and this first episode of this show just made me more confused about its existence. Haven’t watched an episode since it debuted.
So I've not watched the show (like most), but from the way you describe him, Frank in this Virtual World sounds like a character who represents everything Morty hates about himself (confidence, success, reliability etc). With Morty leaving his family etc, it could mean two things, in that it shows his own despair and loss take over or it represents him stepping up to become the person he views that he 'should' be. Great video and analysis of something most people mock, very much appreciated
I think the Rick and Morty anime would have been a lot better recieved if it was clear parody. Like if the series was explicitly riffing on genre tropes from shonen or mecha anime, or spoofed the plot of a specific show like Neon Genesis Evangelion, I think way more people would have been on board with it.
Shot in the dark since I've only seen this video and not the series, could Frank be a stand in for Space Morty? Like Morty is running through his whole life with El so that he can experience how he would never feel like he would truly live up to Space Morty.
i think ppl were expecting it be rick and morty with an anime art style nd theme . where in reality its just another anime with a rick and morty premise. nd tbh i prefer it being the latter just cuz i like anime nd rick and morty so i do fuck with it. but i can fully see why people dont like it tho
I think Frank is supposed to be that one kid in the pilot that threatened to cut Morty before Rick froze him and accidentally shattered him and killing him, lol
I honestly didn't know it was an actual show, I thought it was just one of adult swim's short gag videos about their shows. I guess the marketing was bad or maybe it's just me
Love the content man ur one of my favorite creators u always have intelligent analysis. You’ve introduced me to so many good ass shows keep up the content man. I wish you would do a Batman animated series video cause that show is utterly fantastic I think you would like it. Also I agree the show had a lot of missed potential
Frank seems like a lars to me. Older Guy who the main character becomes jealous of who he shares some but not all physical traits with who ends up taking over and living the life/love of the younger version
I wonder if there could simply be a fan edit of it that makes it more enjoyable for most - maybe turns it into a movie and makes the timeline a bit less jumbled.
I gotta say, Rick and Morty: the anime feels like an intersection answer for if Adult Swim ever had to make the decision about whether they would have to choose which as their golden goose between FLCL(just the fact that they commissioned four sequel seasons to it, as well as reruning the original FLCL for 12 to 18 Saturdays) or Rick and Morty(come on they once literally marathoned an entire episode for a night, and the funding for 3 canceled shows which, that I think is a given where that money went to) when it's a given that Adult Swim would gladly give every dollar to anything made by PFFR(6 different shows and several shorts aired, is actually very telling tbh).
I don't know about your explanation on WHY Elle had Long Haired Rick re-do time. This wasn't EXPLICITELY explained in the show. My understanding was... well first, I think she is EXPERIENCING all time at the same time, but she is still... experiencing it blind? Like, this is the only way for me understand why she's sometimes confused or surprised by things that happen. Like when Morty is upset and she says "I didn't mean to traumatize you", this tells me, she didn't know her decisions would lead to this... even though she could remember the future. She's experiencing the consequences of her actions the second she does the action that causes it, so it's still a surprise... does that make sense? This is a very confusing series. It's also confusing that in Episode 1, she LITERALLY SAYS she can control time, or manipulate time, or something to that nature, even though she explicitly says she cannot do that multiple times after that... So... yeah, confusing. On WHY she's reset time so many times, my understanding was that she is trying to SAVE Morty. Look at the scene in the restaurant, she shoots the disguised mother/child assassins, looking at this, it tells me in one of the timelines before resetting, these 2 killed Morty, and she was able to change it, only because the time reset. This tells ME that every time she saves Morty, she is undoing one of the ways Morty was killed in a previous timeline. Her version of free will is trying to find a timeline where her Morty, doesn't die. I typed this BEFORE finishing the video, but I didn't want to forget my points so I typed it out, but I will edit if you go over any of this. Overall, I did enjoy this show, so much that I watched it twice already, which is uncommon for me. Though, it was partially to try and understand everything because this show is confusing as hell, but if I didn't like it, I wouldn't have cared to understand it.
I think you said it best in the end: This series was failed potential. I can see what they wanted to do, but each time I saw this series, I was massively confused as what was happening since they kept switching up where/when/who it was every 2 minutes it felt like early on, and they didn't really give you clue as to why they did it. That's my main reason why I think this is an A+ for vision, but a C/C- for execution. Also, didn't help the fact as Frank was just weird, only appearing in ep. 1, then the final episode, with no explanation on him (was him and Morty in a gay relationship?) and the animation just looked so stale compared to the anime shorts. Having said that, this still feels like a better show than most of S4-6 of mainline R&M
I personally hate when people take known characters and completely change their personality, it’s annoying and inconsistent, just make a new character. I don’t think it would have mattered if they’d actually marketed it as a completely different take, if anything it probably would’ve just made people start hating it before release, I know there is an audience for remaking existing characters but I definitely think they’re more in the minority, most people don’t want characters they’ve grown to know suddenly changed
I'm in the firm belief that any creator should be allowed to reinterpretate a franchise if they have a unique vision. "You Wana make a weird bizzare anime of rick and morty?" Might be odd but not impossible since rick and morty is known for its weird creativity with science fiction. And there have anime that have dealt similar premises However, you gotta remember what people liked about rick and morty. Because this is way too confusing.
@ravindupadmanath2802 agreed on confusing and creative vision, but you forgot that canonically there are different universes with different versions of the main cast we know. Aka, this is fully possible within Rick and Morty lore.
What I don't get is what did you lose because of this? This interpretation of characters you like took NOTHING from those characters. You can go back and watch the version you like at any time. I swear y'all act like reboots destroy franchises when literally nothing is lost from a bad reboot or a reimaging. You're literally mad over something that did not effect the thing you already liked in anyway.
but in a weird way they remind one thing about the source material : Rick and morty never do time travel ( except christmas episode) because it too messy xD.
I thought it was kinda misunderstood, but at the same time it’s Adult Swim not realizing if this is something people even really wanted. Nice see a more reasonable take on the series.
Last episode wasn't a simulation. That was Morty living in another universes Morty's life. When the headset broke whatever was supposed to be simulated no longer was. Rick mentions this and says time my flow at another speed in that universe.
Because media literacy is becoming less and less common. You're going to see more often that people don't meet a piece of media where it's at and rather gauge it on where they are. It goes hand in hand with understanding who the audience is supposed to be in reading it from that perspective.
Someone did a linear version of this and after watching it in one sitting, I can see the vision and it was very enjoyable actually. The last couple of episodes are more linear and it was really good. The story is good and different but making something intentionally confusing is cheap. You can make something complex but layer it. First layer is for those who get the main story and enjoy it. Second layer for those who pay attention, etc.. if the requirement is to only enjoy it when you understand all layers is a bad direction and writing
I just used my friend's max account to watch the first few episodes or so when it was still new and I... didn't hate it, I was confused because I still don't really know what direction the story is going to go which isn't in itself a bad thing. The main thing I though about it as I watched it was that it was doing everything the original RnM would never do or would make fun of the tropes it's using. In fact I remember when Morty told that one guy he thinks stories should start where they start (still love that episode) and the anime jumps all over the place. They also did time travel almost immediately witch is something RnM is known to not want to mess with because it complicates things even more than they already were. It's almost as if the anime was doing it on purpose. That might just be the part of me who misses when we liked RnM and it wasn't cringy at all and it was just a cool show and we all theorized about things in the episodes and analyzed every episode with a fine tooth comb like it was FNAF.
Longshot, but Is it supposed to be the same Frank that got frozen in the pilot of the original RnM? Haven't seen RnM the anime yet, but they kinda got the same nose thing going on.
One thing with the multiverse if there are infinite universes there are infinite c-137's I get it's kinda lame that it's the "same" Rick but technically it doesn't have to be.
There are more than one C137 Rick similar to how at the Citadel of Ricks we see the three news anchor Ricks who all come from the same dimension but different timelines
19:32 oh that Jerry, always shitting and causing the toilet to flush constantly, classic 21:34 that may be Frank in high school, his hair color and style change later on
My friend forced herself to watch all the episodes of this show 💀💀💀 from what I understand, it’s Rick and Morty but with way worse writing and no comedy
the genre order is different. sci fi, action comedy. the original is sci fi comedy action. If you don't like it don't watch it. some people like different twists on shows, no one cares about people complaining about change.
@@Cardlimits Hey but wait, didn't an entire +150,000,000$ game by Sony of all people go underground within the record time of a single WEEK because of "If you don't like it, don't play it"? Wasn't it called something like Concord? Isn't that funny...
I really enjoyed the first episode surprisingly. But from there on out I struggled... still haven't even finished. But after the first 7 minutes of this video, I'm gonna have to stop here and try to watch from the start again with fresh eyes to see if that helps. I never really dove into what this version was supposed to be, so I just figured it was a gimmick to cover up the voice actor changes. I understood as a alternate reality from the start but I got lost to say the least, lol. Thanks Johnny!
it feels like its made to have 10+ seasons. like, the way time is non-linear is meant to mimic how she experiences her whole reality. the more of the story we have the more we can understand whats going on and the details ironed out. we need more to explain it all, like how when someone is telling a complex personal story where you have no context what so ever except for basic concepts (i.e rick, morty, and multiple dimensions) and sometimes they forget the context and suddenly theyre telling 50 different stories jumbled together into 1 daunting tale. its hard to write a couple seasons worth of context in 1 season in general. the 10+ was supposed to be funny please laugh
You know how they post weird versions of the characters on their social media in different art styles, I thought it was just a gag like those and didn't realise it was a genuine show. Feel like this was 3 years too late and it's missed it's peak
Are you speaking of something like "Space Dandy"? (2014)
I only knew it was a thing because they really tried to push it on Max
I couldn't finish the first episode it was really bad
Yeah I thought it was going to be the first season of Rick & Morty just with an anime art style
@@zanimus666 I would have made an attempt to watch it, but only if the framerate was faster than if I was laggy in like any game. It’s seriously so bad.
Youre the only person to ever make the rnm anime sound cool and I respect that a lot
I honestly felt a lot of emotions watching it. Maybe I'm just overly sentimental to these kinds of stories or something but there was something heavy about it idk!
Its good to see that some people on youtube still have nuanced takes, seriously though it feels like we've devolved into "piece of media is either good or bad", when oftentimes deeply flawed media has some of the most interesting ideas (heck this own comment section is guilty of this).
Can you recommend some other “bad media “ with good ideas
All of my videos. Watch all of themxand share to everyone. Idk I dont think anything can top my slop.
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@@Fantomstrangerthe Star Wars prequels.
@ they are a somewhat special case as the clone wars pretty much uses all of the ideas are up in the prequels quite well
@@Fantomstranger but the clone wars aren’t the prequals. Not really. They’re basically a giant retcon to make those movies passable. The Anakin in clone wars is not the same one from the movies. In clone wars you learn why they play sad music over crab face, boobs, and Indian ladies death in revenge of the Sith.
Ultimately the point still stands that the prequals have great ideas but horrid execution
I got the vibes that Frank is a version of Elle or a combination of Elle and Long-Haired Rick that exists due to the experiments. Could be wrong though. It could just be Takashi Sano putting himself in the series.
That's genuinely how I was feeling too!!! At that last episode, Frank was giving me this vibe like he was that love that Ellie had or something.
But do you remember how Mordy kind of inspired Frank to be a man in the first episode? And then he was talking about how he wouldn't take off that suit because he wanted to be a man for Morty? I think essentially what's going on is that Morty saved Frank and that changed the course of their lives and they became really close friends.
It's genuinely strange. I want to know more about this character, I'm honestly intrigued.
The fact that all the marketing was just “your favorite show…but ANIME” proved that the whole selling point was just “Thing, Japan”.
Fr tho, I can hardly believe that Rick and Morty was once hailed as the crowning jewel of adult animation, now they just released a show nobody cares about six years late to the party
The show was faded to failure if the only attractive was: "Look at this cartoon, now look at it in Japanese art style"
The biggest issue I have with the anime fan community is somehow the idea that anime is superior to all other mediums and artforms. This is an incredibly dumb take courtesy of people who want to appear smarter without actually being curious enough to explore the wide range of stories we have throughout the world, to justify their outright xenophilia and lack of intellectual prowess through the façade of sophistication.
Which funnily enough, is also the stereotype of Rick and Morty fans. Do I think the anime industry has more more good things about versus say, Western animation? Sure they respect animation and voice acting in ways we simply do not do in the west on a cultural level, but you have some fans treating anime as the pinnacle of maturity and culture.
This is akin to saying you are a literary critic because you read Harry Potter, or that AI art is comparable to Salvador Dali.
@@PeripheralVisionary.I personally do enjoy way more anime than live action or western animated shows on average, but that's just because anime's overall style and japanese writng often appeals to me more.
But I don't think it's superior. There are live action shows and western animation that I like very much, but generally when I look for shows I will usually look for anime ones, because the variety with western ones can feel stiff even if I am looking for past shows. Which with live action often comes with a limit of what they can feasibly do.
But it becomes way varied, what I watch, when comes to movies. Because what they make in any type becomes way more varied.
So I agree that people should be open to more variety, but some times the lack thereof is actually the problem
@@RomapolitanThe lack of variety really is not the problem, depending on the context. I am criticizing the baffling idea that anime is most sophisticated and intellectual entertainment media, but this is not remotely true. There’s so much more in the world, from the works of Ben Bova to LeGuin, plays from Hadestown and Wicked to films like Oldboy.
This “anime” would not exist if people did not believe that there was something intrinsic to anime that is not present in western animation, which is not entirely false, but at the end of the day this is still an animation adaptation of an existing cartoon. That’s just silly. R&M would not be better simply if it was made in Japan.
The idea that anime is intrinsically just better is an idea that sprouts from a lack of curiosity, a justification for why people don’t seek better artwork but want to pretend what they consume is high art or superior to the common chafe. It’s deeply annoying Reddit tiered pseudo-intellectualism.
@@PeripheralVisionary. Well yeah, they were certainly trying to cash in on the anime crowd. I am not sure if they were at all counting anime perceived as a superior medium. In fact I have seen this kind of take in all circles. There are people who love western animation but think anime is trash because of preconceived notions. There are people who think that everything always should be live action, which is probably the reason why we constantly get live action remakes.
Anime is just popular and so they chased a trend. And nobody in the anime community really cared because most there don't even care about R&M.
Funnily enough I knew all the examples you gave in different media.
Every time I look up Rick and Morty on Hulu, I get a mini heart attack when it says it's locked behind an add-on, but it's just the anime that's locked, not the original.
So, Hulu has "walled gardens" within their paywall? I see another reason to NOT sign on with Hulu.;)
It's likely because of distribution rights.@@Otokichi786
Hulu’s doing this now??
Hulu has always done this. I used to be able to watch the original Adam's family but now I can only watch it if i pay them another 80 usd/ month.
@@Otokichi786they always have. Same with Disney.
The way you described this story was actually really cool though lmaoo
yea😂
12:15 "I think Jerry is seen as slightly less pathetic overall. Rick defends him in ways that main-line Rick would not be caught dead doing." Still not as brilliant a character as Rick's mate, Dougie, the Bush Wizard. He knows how to treat earthworm bites.
Oh I need to back and watch Bushworld Adventures now. I would love a spin-off based on that from Michael Cusack.
I didn't mind it. It would be nice to see other Rick & Morty spinoffs based on other dimensions. They don't have to play into the main story, but as a one offs miniseries based around other variants of the Smith family.
We need to have a show following the more random ricks like the "prince the singer" Rick
god im so mad they didnt pull this narrative off it sounds so cool and if they had a year longer with the story and script and had test audiences they couldve made this show of the year cause those twists and turns so couldve worked
not really... it's basically a rip-off of Gurren Lagan but they added time shenanigans
@@abbie_joan art doesn’t have to be original to be good or popular. JJK is inspired by a bunch of other anime, Stanger Things is inspired by 80s movies and eldritch horror, and there are a million murder games shows but Squid Game was still good.
It sounds like this story would have been better served in its own original cast rather than a Rick and Morty one
Honestly, this show reminded me of times when anime used to be unapologetically chaotic and confusing on purpose to keep the mystery going, like Texhnolyze or Serial Experiments Lain. You can dislike the show, but saying you don't understand the plot after one episode is completely stupid.
I really expected it to end in the last minute or so with the original art style with Rick and Morty on the couch watching inter-dimensional cable, and being like “was that supposed to be us?” And Morty being “ooooh Rick did you see that Elle girl!? Maybe I’ll meet her or something, oh geeze!” Or something lol
20:34 - Just remembered, I think Space Beth does exist in some other universes/timelines, because we saw that the "parmesian" universe/timeline the family moved to at the end of Solaricks had a Space Beth that she replaced.
You're right I totally misremembered that
Rick and morty the anime is basically the tv show version of the meme "place x place‚japan"
I agree with the theories that Frank is an alternate version of Elle that was created as a result of all of Long Haired Rick's experiments. That or he's someone that Space Morty saved who also got roped into the new universe.
*HEAR ME OUT* someone needs to create an edited version of this show to make it be in chronological order
I outright love this series for what it is, and for what many others find confusing, I find intriguing. I love how the series made me think and theorize, reflect on the interactions and the reveals. I enjoyed it throughout. I can understand why others don't like it, but I'm a supporter.
thank you so much for this. i haven’t seen it yet but now ill definitely watch. it’s so intriguing to me and r&m is such a great backdrop for story telling im very invested
Yeah I actually liked it too. It definitely WAS confusing asf but I still enjoyed it
I really liked it too and would love to see another series/story.
Nah that shit is ass
From what I'm hearing it was similar to what happened to Uzumaki, AKA someone (Zaslav) slashed the budget and they had to work with whatever they had.
The alien girl sounds like something I would see as a Tumblr fanfiction self insert character when I was a teenager lmao
I actually like the idea of her in this case because it IS cliche to have the perfect anime waifu. If they had leaned more into the ironic humor of it (or humor period, like the video mentions) and the fact of the whole show’s existence, it could’ve been something more memorable.
I think it would’ve been better if it leaned more into being a parody of anime instead of being a serious anime.
I don't know, with some very few exceptions, most of the time when Western writers and artists try to parody anime it feels flat, I mean, every time there's a anime parody on a Western cartoon it always ends up parodying, Speed Racer, Sailor Moon, Pokémon, Dragon Ball Z, Ghibli in general (particularly My Neighbor Totoro), AKIRA, Naruto and mecha in general (most of the time it's either Voltron or Evangelion)
@@pablocasas5906 No I agree, anime parodies in western media always follow the same format of
"_charecter name_ chan, we must fight the honourable fight"
"N-nani?? _c-charecter name _ Senpai??"
It gets stale, I appreciate this take on anime even if it fell flat in some aspects
@@pablocasas5906a Japanese guy made this
@@BirdParsons I know, I was just talking about when Western shows or media in general parody or pay homage to anime
I'd say that the problem with the Rick and Morty anime has to do more with the story itself. There have been plenty of Japanese interpretations of Western stories and plenty of them have turned out much better
The Jerry superhero plot is admittedly a really fun idea for a superhero. It’s making me imagine a superhero that doesn’t even know they are one until their sidekick transforms them whenever danger is afoot. Like, they don’t even realize they’re a superhero in day-to-day life until a villain shows up and all of a sudden it’s “OHHH YEAH I’m a superhero!” Maybe it’s like a werewolf where they wake up the next morning covered in bruises and feeling really sore with no idea why? LOL. The sidekick would definitely have to be a roommate or something, maybe someone who got unwillingly roped into being this person’s sidekick (because I imagine there would have to be some reason why the super hero can’t always remember who they are). Could make for some good character conflicts too 👀 someone needs to make this!
I haven’t read it since I was a kid, but isn’t that captain underpants whole thing? Lmao
@ idk, I didn’t read it either 😭 💀
When I think of a Rick and Morty anime, I think of an action comedy with brilliant animation. Like something from Studio Trigger. Not what we got.
Exactly
I honestly find concept wise, a stylised sci-fi existential drama just sounds more interesting.
The execution was just meh
there are more studios with dynamic animation styles beside fucking trigger you know, right???
@@HomodemonTrigger has a certain style
They’re asking for trigger for a reason
Don’t forget this is the company KNOWN for stuff like this (Kill la kill, FLCL especially and PASWG) they
They’re literally the “weird anime’s with good animation” studio.
The anime version feels like it was planned when people were rioting for Saskatchewan sauce or whatever, and when it seemed like R+M was a license to print money. Then the franchise shat itself inside out and they still had this in development, so they just sort of launched it.
The show looks like one of those 50 second long fan animations you find on TH-cam shorts
You said its a mess and you didnt like it but as of 10:43 i am actually now sold on watching this despite saying i wasnt going to and thought it looked like trough slop
Honestly I’m really glad people are having this reaction I def think it’s worth a watch even if I think it’s messy!
"Why does this exist"
Corpo comes in
"Hello I like Money"
Idk I feel like frank is supposed to be a manifestation of mortys feelings about the other morty that died, Frank's job is a metaphor of loving el? Again idk just my theory
Without having watched it at all, just from your description, I'm guessing 'Frank' is either some kind of incarnation of L's original Morty, brought in by whatever portal fluid nonsense rick described in another clip you played, or else it's a big meta joke about the character 'paul' from modern spiderman comics - the guy who MJ is with these days.
This was also the first negative review that ever made me decide I *need* to watch the thing to figure it out myself though, so I'm gonna check it out now and see if I come up with a better answer.
Edit: OK, one episode in, it seems clear to me there are at least 3 different realities in play, and in at least one of them Frank is Morty's secret romantic interest, a la the implied backstory for Jerry and Sleepy Gary. Not expecting to get much more from it than that at this point, other than as a hint that almost everyone in the 'video game' thinks they themselves are the players, and everyone else is an NPC.
Same. I was previously content to just ignore Rick and Morty: The Anime, but now, despite the fact I probably won't straightforwardly enjoy it, this review has convinced me that I should to give it a go.
No Morty is Morty, when the VR headset broke, Morty wasn't in VR he was living in another universes Morty. Rick mentions this in the episode. You can also tie it back to long hair Rick who was basically waking up in other universes Ricks bodies.
please never change your youtube outro it lives rent free in my mind
Same
Frank is probably a representation of what it feels like to main universe Morty of knowing Space Morty’s existence, a man who was more successful, more respected, etc, which would explain why the jealousy was so strong and drove him away
Haven’t watched the show myself but I see the parallels in how you described both relationships, especially if you imagine what it must feel like to know the person you love is in love with a “better” man. Except it was depicted externally in VR as another man, but likely was an internal struggle in life.
The sci fi premise sounds absolutely awesome when layed out like that. If the execution was up to scratch with it it would be amazing.
The anime was like an inter-dimensional cable version of Rick and Morty, so it should have just been a single full episode. Maybe do an Animatrix thing with a series of one-off different styles each episode.
On the topic of people judging after the first episode because they found it confusing...
Steins;Gate also does something similar, with a lot of stuff in the first episode not making sense until later, but it does that in a much better way than the Rick and Morty anime and it at least gives you enough to care about the characters, so I'd say it was fair to judge R&M from the first episode alone.
I mean I agree that Steins Gate does it better, but my dude you're literally saying its fair to judge a show from its first episode, there are so many cases where that would completely mislead you to a shows quality (even that of short planned stuff like this) that I don't even think I need to list them.
@@EnigmaticGentleman the first episode of a shows job is to introduce you to the characters and make you want to watch it. If the first episode can’t do that then at the very least the marketing should do that.
You can make the first 15 minutes of a movie confusing but you can’t make the first 15 minute episode of a show confusing that’s just not how people watch shows, they will leave and they will not come back.
Hell I watched the first 3 episodes and was absurdly bored and uninterested in the story. It never once got interesting in the first 3 episodes
I didn't even finish steins gate and I actually LIKED the first episode of it even tho I was really confused...
This one kinda just made me so disinterested
steins gate kinda does this to the extent that the first episode is confusing and makes sense later but its not achronological; a better example would be baccano!
@@UnluckyLilly well that's exactly why the 3 ep rule exists. Yeah there's some shows that are so obviously bad from the get go, but the sheer amount of shows that are basically flawless beside the first ep not being the best is too many to be able to judge on the first ep imo
The jokes just weren't translated in the dub I remember the subs joke not being gut busters but they at least registered as jokes
I watched both and didn’t clock many but I do think the sub was better
My best guess is Frank is to Morty as what Lars was to Fry in Futurama.
16:00 Frank was the bully who hit on Elle that Morty stood up too when they were in highschool. I'll also quickly add that technically Morty wasn't in a VR world, he was living in another Mortys universe, Rick mentioned this when they were trying to get him out, when the head set broke whatever was supposed to be simulated no longer was, you can also tie it back to when long hair Rick was waking up in other universes Ricks. But back to Frank. I think it's supposed to be inferred Frank being stood up to made him fix his life and feels like indebted to Morty for this change. I think Frank was mostly put in to be a sort of a mechanism of antagonism to Morty, but clearly Morty, and his jealousy of not still being better then his old bully was his own antagonism. But yeah the last episode is entirely just a what if, what if Morty and Elle were able to live a life outside of time, the space government, and Rick. I don't really blame anyone for not understanding Frank the bully was the same older Frank because of the hair change, I didn't realize it at first till later in the episode. But it kinda felt loosely shoe horned in, but at the same time I think if there wasn't any sort of antagonism the whole what if episode would just be a slideshow of Morty living his best life, when life is messy. But the show ended the episode before, that last bit was entirely inconsequential.
That bully's name was Toby, he is an entirely different guy! Different design, different voice, different everything. SO many people have delivered entirely different explanations for who Frank is and I think it's proof that the show fumbled that part of the story massively.
@@Johnny2Cellos Yeah, then it makes a lot less sense. At least them being the same person made a functional theory as to the motivations for why it happened for the what if episode. But this just feels way more shoe horned. Also the other comment I posted was supposed to be a reply in a thread? Not sure how it posted as it's own comment. Either way I deleted all my theory comments except for the VR wasn't a simulation comments. I'll just leave this one up tho. Tbh I never really seen a reason for the what if episode, I consider the show over at 9.
It reminds me about watching the second to last season of Arrested Development. The season was a drag to go through and you feel the difference in the show to how it was previously. It ties together well and a bunch of plot points have new meanings which allow the viewer to rewatch and understand jokes that were set up for a pay off later. The only problem with that is that if you didn't enjoy it the first time it is still a slog to go through again. I actually never watched the last season because the previous one just left a bad impression.
Last season is better than the 2nd to last imo. I get what you mean tho I watched it the first time when I was a kid and was so thrown off.
I was wondering what your thoughts on the anime were, and I'm glad you made this video, yours is easily the best take on it I've seen on TH-cam. This was a refreshingly fair discussion of the anime's highlights and missteps in being a fundamentally different take on Rick & Morty that unfortunately undermined itself by being both too different in characterization/tone/humor and yet not separated enough from the original.
I personally lean towards liking the show, in particular I really liked episodes 7 and 10 and found the latter to work really well for me in its themes and emotional moments, but I think how the narrative was presented in the first couple episodes was very disorienting in a way that made it hard to latch onto until things starting clicking around the middle. So I agree, I too am glad the anime exists for its experimentation and highlights, but I think calling it a monument to failed potential is a great way to describe it.
Though that said, I would be interested in them doing another Rick & Morty anime with a different director and take that's more tonally closer to the original or to the style of comedy/action people might expect when they envision what a Rick and Morty anime should be like. I think a Rick & Morty anime made by Studio Trigger, for instance, would be pretty fun. Or even get Masaru Matsumoto, the director of the Great Yokai Battle of Akihabara short, since his take was pretty comedic and over the top in a way that fits better with what I think a lot of R&M fans would've expected/preferred from an R&M anime.
Speaking of Adult Swim-produced anime that are monuments to failed potential, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts and see you do a video on the Uzumaki anime, which despite its promising first episode I think is unfortunate that both it and the R&M anime came out around the same time to similar levels of backlash as it went along and have soured a lot of people on the idea of Adult Swim producing their own anime entirely.
I agree completely about how obnoxious it is that they are pretending the anime is a part of the mainline show. The show would have felt a lot better if they did what the comics do and just make their own universe for the story.
I think if they refined the story a bit more and had...actually appealing art to look at, this would be an interesting anime if it was its own original work and NOT Rick and Morty.
Yes, I very much agree with you on this. Premise is great on its own and didn’t need a Rick and Morty skin on it.
I liked the artstyle tho
I didn’t really have a problem with expectations vs. reality on this series. For me, what breaks it is how the story is told. The story seems so convoluted and opaque for so long that it’s hard to even appreciate when it gives you answers because the emotional investment is gone. Maybe it would have been better if it was more comedic, since at least then the confusion could be played for laughs, but in the absence of that, it feels like you have to do a lot of homework to get this show and connect with the drama. Doesn’t help that the sakuga is hit or miss, to say the least.
😊oof thank
3:25-3:56
Baccano! did this exact same thing and it ended up being one of the best animes of its time (and maybe all time). The anime itself disrespect linearity in its entire run, but special mention goes to the first episode, which is like a jumbled sequence of events without much order. It was designed to give intrigue, but act more like something you go back to after it's over and go "Oooohhhh it all makes sense now!" In a way, the first episode of Baccano! is meant to be viewed first _and_ last.
That Frank guy must be the guy who serves a "G-man status".
Spoilers and Frank interpretation:
My interpretation of Frank was that Frank was the headset itself, especially since the reintroduction of Frank was right after it cut back to the real world during the virtual sequence only for us to see the headset spark with red sparks. While the short scene is meant to set up some tension in the viewer by making it feel like everything with the headset may not be alright, which leads to the Summer/Rick real world side plot to get Morty out before he ends up Sword Art Online'd by the headset. Other than this, the only other decent explanation I can think of for the transcending properties of Frank would be that he is a member of the same race as Elle, however never encounter Frank unless the headset is involved which leaves me leaning towards him being the headset. However, they are likely not getting that second season they teased at the very end.
I mean it was marketed as an anime, I was genuinely surprised when people didn't know it was doing anime stuff
Because most people don't actually watch anime. They just follow the popular shows and ignore the weird experimental stuff
Fun Fact: the Japanese voice of Rick is the voice for Doctor Vegapunk in One Piece
Speaking of one piece, I think Elle is voiced by Nami in the Funimation dub of One Piece.
Honestly, if given its own show with a more fleshed out plot line and different coat of paint, Elle’s conundrum would be a really cool aspect to build a story out of. Really cool and ambitious stuff.
They should’ve made the character designs should’ve been way different and more traditional anime.
That way it’d at least be visually interesting.
idk i like how unique it looks tbh, every american take on anime goes for a generic style so this a breath of fresh air
The first episode should hook you into a series and this first episode of this show just made me more confused about its existence. Haven’t watched an episode since it debuted.
man, I'm not gonna lie
Sano's designs and the overall look of the show are both very good
I agree
I find the style absolutely garish and ugly. Like, everybody looks so bad.
Watched the first episode and was waiting for a video like this, because I wasn't gonna put any more of my time into it.
So I've not watched the show (like most), but from the way you describe him, Frank in this Virtual World sounds like a character who represents everything Morty hates about himself (confidence, success, reliability etc). With Morty leaving his family etc, it could mean two things, in that it shows his own despair and loss take over or it represents him stepping up to become the person he views that he 'should' be.
Great video and analysis of something most people mock, very much appreciated
No joke, You make me kinda want to watch it!
I actually really liked it, but I went into it with no real expectations
I think the Rick and Morty anime would have been a lot better recieved if it was clear parody. Like if the series was explicitly riffing on genre tropes from shonen or mecha anime, or spoofed the plot of a specific show like Neon Genesis Evangelion, I think way more people would have been on board with it.
That’s genuinely what I expected this to be like, and was extremely disappointed to get the opposite.
It might as well have been a new season of FLCL with how it barely felt like Rick and Morty.
I mean, the original show already had a Voltron parody
Shot in the dark since I've only seen this video and not the series, could Frank be a stand in for Space Morty? Like Morty is running through his whole life with El so that he can experience how he would never feel like he would truly live up to Space Morty.
Frank was the friends we made along the way
honestly this might be the actual answer
After all, isn't there a little bit of Frank in all of us?
The Rick and Morty fanfiction I wrote while dealing with crazy prescription drug withdrawal had a better reception than this thing.
I'd like to know what it was about
I would cancel all my plans to read this
Sounds like you were in the correct headspace to write it at least.
Frank is an excuse for "canon" yaoi.
At least we didn't have to wait four years to be disappointed. Not every Adult Swim anime can say that.
Damn didn’t have to call it out like that
i think ppl were expecting it be rick and morty with an anime art style nd theme . where in reality its just another anime with a rick and morty premise. nd tbh i prefer it being the latter just cuz i like anime nd rick and morty so i do fuck with it. but i can fully see why people dont like it tho
Oh Johnny, this is the internet, jumping to conclusions with stuff that isn't completely is its favorite thing to do
This really feels like what ya wind up getting when Mum says, "We have Rick & Morty at home".
19:33 You unironically made this joke funnier lol
I think the L story could have worked, cause she's basically Dr. Manhattan. It just has no focus
I don't think it is that bad, it's not Rick and Morty, it's a decent anime and would be greatly appreciated if it didn't have the name attached to it
A lot of Frank theories I see is he is a different variant of L and that's where this all started. She then became a woman to get closer to Morty.
I liked it honestly! However, i think people were expecting something more Kawajiri( Ninja Scroll/Wicked City) or Studio Madhouse in general.
I think Frank is supposed to be that one kid in the pilot that threatened to cut Morty before Rick froze him and accidentally shattered him and killing him, lol
I honestly didn't know it was an actual show, I thought it was just one of adult swim's short gag videos about their shows.
I guess the marketing was bad or maybe it's just me
Love the content man ur one of my favorite creators u always have intelligent analysis. You’ve introduced me to so many good ass shows keep up the content man. I wish you would do a Batman animated series video cause that show is utterly fantastic I think you would like it. Also I agree the show had a lot of missed potential
I’ve been on a Batman kick recently so I’m considering it!
@ it’s an excellent show man I’d love to see ur opinion on it man cause I love it so many great episodes. Also have u seen smiling friends?
Frank seems like a lars to me. Older Guy who the main character becomes jealous of who he shares some but not all physical traits with who ends up taking over and living the life/love of the younger version
Yeah i think frank represents space morty
I wonder if there could simply be a fan edit of it that makes it more enjoyable for most - maybe turns it into a movie and makes the timeline a bit less jumbled.
With this and Uzumaki I think there's a problem with productions on Adult Swim made by anime studios.
19:38 “Careful, I’m no Rookie . I’m a 10 year veteran” Ass Jerry
I gotta say, Rick and Morty: the anime feels like an intersection answer for if Adult Swim ever had to make the decision about whether they would have to choose which as their golden goose between FLCL(just the fact that they commissioned four sequel seasons to it, as well as reruning the original FLCL for 12 to 18 Saturdays) or Rick and Morty(come on they once literally marathoned an entire episode for a night, and the funding for 3 canceled shows which, that I think is a given where that money went to) when it's a given that Adult Swim would gladly give every dollar to anything made by PFFR(6 different shows and several shorts aired, is actually very telling tbh).
Honestly, I am gonna wait a while for us to get an edited version that has all of the episodes set in chronological order
I don't know about your explanation on WHY Elle had Long Haired Rick re-do time. This wasn't EXPLICITELY explained in the show.
My understanding was... well first, I think she is EXPERIENCING all time at the same time, but she is still... experiencing it blind? Like, this is the only way for me understand why she's sometimes confused or surprised by things that happen. Like when Morty is upset and she says "I didn't mean to traumatize you", this tells me, she didn't know her decisions would lead to this... even though she could remember the future. She's experiencing the consequences of her actions the second she does the action that causes it, so it's still a surprise... does that make sense? This is a very confusing series. It's also confusing that in Episode 1, she LITERALLY SAYS she can control time, or manipulate time, or something to that nature, even though she explicitly says she cannot do that multiple times after that... So... yeah, confusing.
On WHY she's reset time so many times, my understanding was that she is trying to SAVE Morty. Look at the scene in the restaurant, she shoots the disguised mother/child assassins, looking at this, it tells me in one of the timelines before resetting, these 2 killed Morty, and she was able to change it, only because the time reset. This tells ME that every time she saves Morty, she is undoing one of the ways Morty was killed in a previous timeline. Her version of free will is trying to find a timeline where her Morty, doesn't die.
I typed this BEFORE finishing the video, but I didn't want to forget my points so I typed it out, but I will edit if you go over any of this.
Overall, I did enjoy this show, so much that I watched it twice already, which is uncommon for me. Though, it was partially to try and understand everything because this show is confusing as hell, but if I didn't like it, I wouldn't have cared to understand it.
I never watched a second of this show, so it blew my mind to hear Luci Christian voice L.
I think you said it best in the end: This series was failed potential. I can see what they wanted to do, but each time I saw this series, I was massively confused as what was happening since they kept switching up where/when/who it was every 2 minutes it felt like early on, and they didn't really give you clue as to why they did it. That's my main reason why I think this is an A+ for vision, but a C/C- for execution. Also, didn't help the fact as Frank was just weird, only appearing in ep. 1, then the final episode, with no explanation on him (was him and Morty in a gay relationship?) and the animation just looked so stale compared to the anime shorts.
Having said that, this still feels like a better show than most of S4-6 of mainline R&M
I personally hate when people take known characters and completely change their personality, it’s annoying and inconsistent, just make a new character. I don’t think it would have mattered if they’d actually marketed it as a completely different take, if anything it probably would’ve just made people start hating it before release, I know there is an audience for remaking existing characters but I definitely think they’re more in the minority, most people don’t want characters they’ve grown to know suddenly changed
I'm in the firm belief that any creator should be allowed to reinterpretate a franchise if they have a unique vision.
"You Wana make a weird bizzare anime of rick and morty?" Might be odd but not impossible since rick and morty is known for its weird creativity with science fiction. And there have anime that have dealt similar premises
However, you gotta remember what people liked about rick and morty. Because this is way too confusing.
@ravindupadmanath2802 agreed on confusing and creative vision, but you forgot that canonically there are different universes with different versions of the main cast we know. Aka, this is fully possible within Rick and Morty lore.
I would agree but Rick and morty the show does this all the time with different universes so I don’t see why not
What I don't get is what did you lose because of this? This interpretation of characters you like took NOTHING from those characters. You can go back and watch the version you like at any time.
I swear y'all act like reboots destroy franchises when literally nothing is lost from a bad reboot or a reimaging. You're literally mad over something that did not effect the thing you already liked in anyway.
@ true it’s not like this is replacing the show if anything it will only make it more popular
but in a weird way they remind one thing about the source material : Rick and morty never do time travel ( except christmas episode) because it too messy xD.
I thought it was kinda misunderstood, but at the same time it’s Adult Swim not realizing if this is something people even really wanted. Nice see a more reasonable take on the series.
Frank is in all the vr simulations like a default npc guide idk
Last episode wasn't a simulation. That was Morty living in another universes Morty's life. When the headset broke whatever was supposed to be simulated no longer was. Rick mentions this and says time my flow at another speed in that universe.
Because media literacy is becoming less and less common. You're going to see more often that people don't meet a piece of media where it's at and rather gauge it on where they are. It goes hand in hand with understanding who the audience is supposed to be in reading it from that perspective.
Someone did a linear version of this and after watching it in one sitting, I can see the vision and it was very enjoyable actually. The last couple of episodes are more linear and it was really good. The story is good and different but making something intentionally confusing is cheap. You can make something complex but layer it. First layer is for those who get the main story and enjoy it. Second layer for those who pay attention, etc.. if the requirement is to only enjoy it when you understand all layers is a bad direction and writing
I just used my friend's max account to watch the first few episodes or so when it was still new and I... didn't hate it, I was confused because I still don't really know what direction the story is going to go which isn't in itself a bad thing. The main thing I though about it as I watched it was that it was doing everything the original RnM would never do or would make fun of the tropes it's using. In fact I remember when Morty told that one guy he thinks stories should start where they start (still love that episode) and the anime jumps all over the place. They also did time travel almost immediately witch is something RnM is known to not want to mess with because it complicates things even more than they already were. It's almost as if the anime was doing it on purpose. That might just be the part of me who misses when we liked RnM and it wasn't cringy at all and it was just a cool show and we all theorized about things in the episodes and analyzed every episode with a fine tooth comb like it was FNAF.
I think Frank was a version of Ell.
Longshot, but Is it supposed to be the same Frank that got frozen in the pilot of the original RnM? Haven't seen RnM the anime yet, but they kinda got the same nose thing going on.
I actually liked this. It wasn’t really made for Rick and Morty Fans obvs, ‘Serious and Weird’ is a good description 😂
One thing with the multiverse if there are infinite universes there are infinite c-137's I get it's kinda lame that it's the "same" Rick but technically it doesn't have to be.
16:14 "Not until i turned myself into a pickle"
There are more than one C137 Rick similar to how at the Citadel of Ricks we see the three news anchor Ricks who all come from the same dimension but different timelines
19:32 oh that Jerry, always shitting and causing the toilet to flush constantly, classic
21:34 that may be Frank in high school, his hair color and style change later on
My friend forced herself to watch all the episodes of this show 💀💀💀 from what I understand, it’s Rick and Morty but with way worse writing and no comedy
the genre order is different. sci fi, action comedy. the original is sci fi comedy action. If you don't like it don't watch it. some people like different twists on shows, no one cares about people complaining about change.
@@Cardlimits “don’t like it don’t watch it”
Haha, yeah! Because fuck giving a show a chance, right?
@@CardlimitsNo upvotes for you.
@@Cardlimits Hey but wait, didn't an entire +150,000,000$ game by Sony of all people go underground within the record time of a single WEEK because of "If you don't like it, don't play it"? Wasn't it called something like Concord? Isn't that funny...
@@zachariahbrewer1534 you're comparing a TV show you can watch for free with a paid video game. Sounds like your grasping straws
I really enjoyed the first episode surprisingly. But from there on out I struggled... still haven't even finished. But after the first 7 minutes of this video, I'm gonna have to stop here and try to watch from the start again with fresh eyes to see if that helps. I never really dove into what this version was supposed to be, so I just figured it was a gimmick to cover up the voice actor changes. I understood as a alternate reality from the start but I got lost to say the least, lol. Thanks Johnny!
I think frank is the first rendition of elle maybe?
Just started watching halfway through on adult swim, came here to soothe the confusion.
it feels like its made to have 10+ seasons. like, the way time is non-linear is meant to mimic how she experiences her whole reality. the more of the story we have the more we can understand whats going on and the details ironed out. we need more to explain it all, like how when someone is telling a complex personal story where you have no context what so ever except for basic concepts (i.e rick, morty, and multiple dimensions) and sometimes they forget the context and suddenly theyre telling 50 different stories jumbled together into 1 daunting tale.
its hard to write a couple seasons worth of context in 1 season in general. the 10+ was supposed to be funny please laugh