AMD RX 7900 XTX Reference Vs Sapphire RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ [Overclocking | Power | Thermals]
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When buying a new GPU, you have the choice of grabbing a reference spec card or something more exotic from an AIB which will generally command a slight premium, but is the extra cost worth it?
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What card will you be picking up?
Nitro all day long Andy. :)
The reference model when the rx 9900 xtx is release.
None of them. The price is too damn high.
Rx 7900 xt nitro+
@@roythunderplump few years later then
I started with a Gigabyte that was similar to the reference but couldn't take the fan noise. I did pay the ferryman and got the Sapphire... it really is worth it. Fantastic performance, fantastic cooling, and hey the giant RGB improves frame rates (obviously). :D
The Sapphire Nitro is the most robust cooler ever put on a GPU by far (and the best looking imo)
It's such a nice looking card as well
I own the XT version of the Sapphire nitro and its pretty good
wow getting really damn hot
I kinda prefer either the XFX and most Gigabytes. Like the RTX 3080 10gb Eagle. But yaI see why people like it. Beefy for sure.
No other 7900 xtx or Nvidia card comes close to how good this thing looks.
I have had the 7900XTX Nitro+ for about 2 months now and honestly I'm blown away by how capable it is, the extra money should be an investment on the comfort and extra headroom you get with this card over reference, not that reference is a bad card in it's own right.
Is it a relatively quiet card?
@E~Kayn yeah, depends on the case layout though, I was using the glass panel on my NR200P Max and it regularly got to 80°C, but glass blocks sound so it couldn't be heard, mesh panel brings temps down to about 64°C. 58°C when undervolted to 1080mV. So the fans barely spin.
I mean, I would hope the reference is good. It's built by Sapphire as well.
I'd really like to thank you for this video, I haven't seen a straight up comparison by many tech reviewers.
Best review ive seen yet. I already got the card but for some reason i still like to watch reviews about it. I watched almost every review on yt and this shows the strangths of the nitro+ the best.
The exact Video i was looking for. Amazing \O/
Great video, mate! Last time I had an AMD video card was when they still were ATI. It was a pair of 5870 in Crossfire. My EVGA 3080 is going to my brother so I'm getting the 7900 XTX Nitro for my new build. I'm psyched to get that beast in my new PC!
sapphire rx 7900 xtx for sure. If I were upgrading this gen. However this makes me really excited for the next gen after this when I may choose to upgrade again. Currently with a rx6800 and def have no need to upgrade at this time but those perf numbers are such an improvement already!
Nice comparison.
Note: when comparing overclocks you should use the same resolution. The reason the reference card had a higher boost clock is due to it running at a lower resolution.
THIS. Should've been obvious looking at the frames, the stock card outputting 280 while the Sapphire one only has 90 fps.
@@oIX3N0NIo I wish you had said something in the video because I had no idea what was going on.
Crazy that you uploaded this only a week ago. This is literally the exact comparison that I’m looking for to make my purchase. Wondering if it’s worth having to get rid of my Meshify c for the sapphire.
I wish I would've waited and got the Nitro or red devil. I had to pull the trigger on day one and buy the reference thank you for this detailed video I wish more people would be like this
As of me writing this, it is less than $100 US difference between them and it isn't even Black Friday yet. So thank you this was very helpful.
Love to see the Sapphire vs the XFX.
Yes very
When I realized that my 10GB 3080 will be limited by VRAM before its architecture I started looking at AMD. I get it, Nvidia does it to segment their gaming and enterprise business, makes sense. Know what else it does? Makes we want to buy AMD. Two new 7000 series GPUs, one with 20GB and the other with 24GB. Less expensive too. Yes DLSS and Ray Tracing are nice features but I like to brute force my graphics more often than not and this 7900xtx can do it for less money. Well done AMD.
Same here. 1 month ago i decided to jump from 10 gb vram to the xtx
Im in the same boat, i have a 3080 10gb and now looking as i feel i made a mistake with the 3080. But i refuse to pay the Nvidia Tax on the 40 series cards. Im now deciding between a XT or XTX
@@Captain-Chatsdepends how much you want to spend the xtx is about $200 more than the xt
FPS seems a little off in your benchmark footage 👀🤔 260fps on reference card but 90 on the sapphire
Yes 😂
I couldnt help but notice that at 11:45, the cards youre testing are playing the same game on a different resolution yet you still compare the clock speeds and temperatures.
Sapphire does include fuses on the PCB (which could be a lifesaver in case of a short)
That's actually genius.
does it come that way? where I am at right now there can be regularly electricity cuts which kinda scares me
@@yourgrandpa2539 You mean is it a factory thing? If so, it is.
nice comparison!
Great video
I need an opinion. If going with Nitro + XTX, would you think a white PC case or black? Thinking Corsair 4000D-ish?
sapphire and evga [may they continue on] have always had really nice coolers in my opinion
Whew! I just found a Sapphire a couple weeks ago on Spring Sale for $750 (w/Tax). Loving it!
Could you list/ post your overclocking settings for the sapphire card?
Which would be the better pick?
This, or the PowerColor Red Devil card?
The Red Devil costs 100 euro less here
Very nice video. Bit late yet early and still late to the party because I did the silly thing of jumping on a reference card and currently can't quite tell if it has at least part of the overheating problem or is just that poorly designed in terms of heat (and the noise it makes along with it). It's holding up for now but I don't see this lasting and already have the switch to Sapphire lined up. Side note: I am definitely not going ASUS again even if it's just ordering a product from them and they didn't even have to fry my 7600x for it.
If Ive had to guess Id say they probably cheaped out on the thermal pads and especially the paste. Ive seen people repasting it with thick good quality paste (some people swear on PTM7950) and got the temps down by like 15 degrees on the hotspot. Might be worth it, especially on the reference model.
One thing's for sure: The design of the Nitro+ is just drop dead gorgeous.
The prices here in Germany change almost daily, but you can often find a Nitro+ for under 1200€ every now and then. That would be roughly 100-120€ more expensive than decent alternatives from other manufacturers, but it's worth it, if you want it as a long term investment. And prices will keep dropping over the next weeks.
I was thinking of getting a Nitro+ to replace my 3080, but even under the best circumstances, we're talking about an FPS increase of about 50% and only thanks to an increased power consumption of about 25% compared to the 3080. As such and as much as I am tempted to get that beautiful Nitro+, I think I'll just skip this generation and wait until late 2024, when the new generations get released.
I have xtx its just great, but in your case i agree completely, especialy when it comes too rdna4, second gen of chiplet gpus could be realy insane, also better priced. Its just very new tech at this moment:-). I had 1660ti, before which is just very old gpu compare to your 3080:-)
I like that the VRMs and power stages are the same - I'm looking to get a good quality card and install a full cover waterblock. The extra money for the beefed up cooler would be completely wasted. I guess the only thing left is the slightly higher power limit.
don't OC it, it's not worth it
@10:50 why does it say the ref GPU is running at 200+ FPS? It looks like it's running at a lower resolution, but earlier in the video the comparison had them running both at the same rez. Why were the OC'd cards stress tested at different resolutions?
It’s a bug within f1, we used the wrong clip it seems. All resolution and settings were the same. Apologies for the confusion.
Hi may i ask how u check the memory junction temp? I only see hotspot everywhere on my system
Will there be a comparison also between the 7900XT and the 7900XT from Sapphire?
I really like the design of the ref card
Curious on how come you picked the 4080 fe instead of the Asus or Msi version. Those would provide better performance. Especially because you choose the best AMD gpu. Just curious is all
A little over 2 months later the price for the NITRO+ has dropped considerably. Now the difference between the 2 cards is bouncing between $40-$60 USD. The NITRO+ is a no brainer pickup if you're looking for the top end AMD GPU.
In germany, it's still 200-300 euros more...
waiting for a pure or toxic version from sapphire ideally before deciding
Idk how long this will last, but Amazon US is currently running a deal for $100 off this NITRO+ card with a coupon. That brings the price down to $1030 USD.
Right now the 7900 XTX Nitro+ is down to $1099 at NewEgg. Having owned a reference 7900XTX (which I sold) and a XFX Merc version (excellent card), I can without hesitation say that the extra $$ is very much worth it for better temps and less noise as well as higher OC headroom going with an aftermarket model. Although I think the Sapphire is the best 7900XTX available, the $200+ markup they were doing was silly and the XFX Merc was a vastly better buy. But thankfully demanding is going down and I think it will drift ever closer to the $1000 reference price in the coming months.
Just ordered mine with my tax returns, can't wait for it to come in.
It's already about 10-15 percent off and dropping now as it's not moving, and that's just through amazon. I expect it will be 1000 pretty soon, and that makes it the best buy for a gpu you can basically get. You're getting a card that outside of RT and maybe some other aspects is basically on par or even sometimes better than a 4090 for less than HALF the price.
Wich one is better the Nitro or the XFX one? I like both and there is like a 100$ difference.
@@kennY_72 Personally, I like the Nitro better, but do not think it is worth the extra $100 over the XFX Merc
The cheaper you go the more likely there's quality issues and XFX has a lot of quality issues on their cards.
I got the 7900XTX NITRO+ and was trying to find a video that showed Memory thermals. Looks like these XTX cards are running a little too hot. I've generally stuck with liquid cooling high end cards but I ended up getting air cooled because of the lack of space in my case.
Can you elaborate? I was under the impression that VRAM runs much hotter than basically anything else on the gpu. Like 80-95c?
I would like to see you testing the 7900 XTX Taichi from Asrock. It seems to be a very good card to and I just can't decide witch one is a better buy.
They're basically the same. Buy whichever is cheaper
11:23 some weird stuff going on there between the two cards nitro using 60w more and nearly 200 fps less
Yeah i notice that too, it's like 1 was running at 1080p and the other one at 4k.
They had different GPU usage as well which explains why there was around 200 MHz difference between them.
Came here just to look for this comment.
Been eyeing 7900 XTX for a while & I've noticed that at local shop they sell something that looks exactly if not similar to the AMD reference model, but it's manufactured by either AsRock or Sapphire. I'm curious if this this model will have all the "quirks and features" of the AMD reference model.
Yes, these are the MBA reference designs. It is also possible to get a faulty vapor chamber on these cards. Although, at this point in time it then is tough luck on old stock.
man, i'm just happy my XFX card hasn't exploded lol. It's been a solid 7900xtx since launch day.
The sapphire nitro is actually $200 cheaper than the reference card in my country. Just picked it up for $1689 AUD on a Christmas sale.
i got the sapphire, so i will unsub if you say anything remotely bad , direct or indirect... lol...
got mine also because of the length. it just fit better in my torrent compact compared to other xtx models. and i do like these head to heads. straight up comparison...
What were your Junction Temps on this card?
im very torn about Getting the Powercolor Red devil 7900xtx or just go with RTX 4080.
I have the sapphire nitro+ 7900 xtx and after almost a month for some reason my performance in some benchmarks has gotten a bit worse, is that normal, i have 4 days to return it, the temps are amazing the memory gets a bit hot for my liking
Just sold the 4070 to my friend for $300 and just bought this card. I cant wait.
Got it few days ago and there’s unreal coil whine coming out of it. I have to limit FPS in every game to get rid of coil whine. I am also confused as to how to UV the card. Should i stay in bios 1 or 2 when undervolting?
Its actually a 3 way switch and if u undervolt via AMD software, u dont have to move the switch.
I oc+undervolted mine to 2400-2500 core clock, 1130mV, +15% powerlimit, left the memory untouched and my nitro+ doesnt usually cross 50C° in my fractal torrent case on full load. Didnt notice any coilwhine even when fps went to 700+ in loading screens. Oh ye, its around 280W draw at 100% (can go up to 480W if overclocked).
@@Greenalex89 i keep it in Bios 2 undervolted to 1100mv. Didnt OC or mess with powerlimit. 350W power draw coil whine still there regardless of the game. To remove coilwhine i have to limit FPS to max 300fps
@@Greenalex89I also dont understand how can you undervolt and increase power limit by 15% yet at the same time reduce power draw to 280W. Just makes no sense
Just bought mine, gonna try swapping to team red for a change
do you have only XT version of this video?
I bought an asrock phantom 7900 xtx a few weeks ago for $999 on sale at microcenter. 🙂
The nitro is a monster i wish i would of waited to get it instead of the reference
Just ordered one for $999 USD. Figured the improved quality is worth it compared to the $920 options which aren't as nice looking...
good job mate
can you made video
ASRock Radeon RX 7900 XTX Taichi vs Sapphire Nitro + Radeon RX 7900 XTX vs Asus TUF Radeon RX 7900 XTX
I'm having a 7900 xtx Asus Ref. model on water and am beating the benchmarks in this video by about 10% and still only using 400 W --> putting a 7900xtx on water is the way to go. Junction temp. with Liquid Metal gets to 59°C
Just grabbed one for £1,099 which seems quite reasonable :)
Hello CPU you use for this test ?
Why couldn't you undervolt the reference I undervolted mine which gave me a bigger fps boost
Also for an extra $400 price range might as well just go for the 4090 but if you can get all of them at msrp I think the sapphire would be the best pick from these
9:22 why would a superior cooler allow the card to be undervolted? That would be due to the stability of that particular GPU, not the cooler.
Will it work with an 850 watts psu?
im ordering the nitro+ card soon, but i wish that it was black, im doing an all black build with white cables and the silver wont be as good but oh well
I ended up getting the 7900 xtx Pulse.
Newegg you can buy the sapphire nitro for $1130 plus a $30 discount code and you also get the Last of US part 1 so its not a bad deal at all. I have a Red Devil 6900xt, but I don't know if its really worth it to upgrade.
I just bought that deal. I'm excited since I currently use a 1660 Super lol
As Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT owner since launch, and previously a R9 290X Sapphire Tri-X...if you want to pick Radeon do yourself a favor and pick the Sapphire cards. ALWAYS
Bought one last week for 1120usd beast gpu
Now about a grand in GBP. But with the XT Pulse about 700 GBP, which is better value? If either can be considered value options... If someone gave me the XTX Nitro, I'd happily keep it, running it on the slower, cooler, more efficient BIOS, which is perhaps its best selling point - you get the amazing build, bags of performance, fair thermals and current draw.
I'm surprised you couldn't get the voltage lower.
If you getting an amd card, always prefer sapphire. 6870/7850/rx 580 Nitro
Seems like something is limiting the sapphire card here, I have the same card and it's runs between 3100mhz and 3200mhz, with temps under 65°C
the core temperature doesn't matter what matters is the junction temp. If you keep this temperature below 90c you are able to go down with the voltage much lower. Another thing is the game engine. For warzone I play on 3300mhz@1091v settings because the game likes high clock and in games on unreal engine 3000mhz@1075v. These modes are stable as long as junction temp is lower than 90. Of course, this applies to my card.
How about a comparison of the Sapphire to the XFX Merc 7900 XTX? That should be a pretty close comparison. The XFX has been about $100 cheaper than the Sapphire. NewEgg recently had it for $1029 less a $50 off coupon. (Currently sitting at $1029) Seems like a better value as we approach the $999 retail of the reference cards.
both cards are great. So the result depends on the silicon lottery😉
@@rENEGADE666JEDIthe Nitro+ is the highest bin from sapphire, so you win the lottery every time.
This card is insanely expensive in Canada. $1670.00+.
$1225.00 US.
thats one big boi
4% cooler is an incorrect metric.
Temperature can be measured in Kelvin, Celsius, or even Fahrenheit, each with a different percentage.
I got a asrock 7900xtx phantom gaming and im thinking about returning it im getting over a 30 degreee delta on the gpu hotspot and its been only 3 weeks asrock is garbage and put a warranty sticker on it so i cant evem repaste it if its from pump out so im going to head back to microcenter this weekend and get a sapphire instead
Got s sapphire instead amazing card worth the extra money 2000%
I ended up swapping my 3090 out for 7900xtx sapphire nitro+ all my gaming stutters disappeared lol
Is there a way to deactivate the rgb on the 7900xtx nitro+?
Yeah shut down the pc
*12:22** - 263 FPS vs 77 fps?*
Would motherboard would pair well with the Sapphire RX7900xtx and 7800X3d?
any b650
AMD prices have come down a few hundred in the last few months, I picked up the Nitro+. It's pretty good card, just don't forget to turn on FreeSync or V-Sync in games or you'll be sucking 420watts. Other than that it barely cracks 65 degrees at 1440p max settings, Assassins Creed, Ghost Recon, Mechwarrior
my nitro plus boosts to 3ghz its insane i had to double check it and that was just what it does in rage mode otherwise stock
This nitro is so better than merc310?
Returning my Taichi version for this one too much coil whine even after replacing it again. Plus this is the Best of Best cards, and My 6600xt is a Sapphire Pulse, No coil whine and works like a champ, So Sapphire is going to be my to go card each time AMD releases a new GPU.
I have a 7900 XT that's pushing 864GB/s bandwidth. Core: 2.65GHz. Memory: 2.7GHz. PL: +7%. Maker: PowerColor, Hellhound.
Now the Nitro is only $50 above the original MSRP, makes it quite attractive imho.
Why would a better cooler have any influence over the ability to undervolt? 🤨
I was able to grab that sweet 24GB of VRAM packing XFX Merc 7900 XTX for just $949 on Amazon. Now, I just laugh when people say games are bad. I don't even know what they're talking about over here as everything (Yes, including "the terrible" TLOU P1) runs completely max'd out at 4k/60. Heck, TLOU looks better on my computer than the freaking TV show!! The Only game to challenge this mighty beast has beast in it and that game is Hogwarts Legacy. It uses over 17Gb of VRAM when maxed out at 4k and I ended up having to turn on FSR Quality and turn RT from Ultra to High at launch. I beat it within a few days of straight gaming so I'm not sure how much the game's RT optimizations helped after launch and for all I know that game too can now run Fully Maxed Out. Still, most of my games play at 120fps/4k maxed. I haven't OC'd it at all, but it stays around 2.85Gz while gaming, using between 300-400+ watts. Considering I didn't have to change out my PSU (as would have been the case for the nearly twice as expensive 4090) and it actually competes or even beats that card in some games, I'm a happy boy indeed!!
What's your CPU and PSU?
@@keizhardy931 5950x, 32GB RAM, 2TB PCIe 4 SSD (lots of other stuff;) and an 850w Corsair 80+ Gold PSU. Everything running at stock
465w OC is kinda crazy.. U get 5% fps for 15% power/heat
My 6800XT is 280w (310w OC) & it's already considered power hungry..
AMD & Nvidia are all picking 1.5x high volatage to get like 1.2x performance..
Undervolting will get U stock Wattage for 10% less wattage/heat
Am already thinking late 2024 flagship GPUs will reach 600w stock Lol.. 4090 is already reaching 600w OC
I dont think pure OC is with it. I OC+UV my nitro+ and it runs at 280W full load and doesnt cross 50C° without a performance loss. It will run for ages under those conditions..
@Greenalex89 Nitro+ ? What GPU Model you referring to
Rx 7900xtx Nitro+ reach 460w at max OC
In case you mean 6800xt.. its around 270w (atock) to sub 320w OC
My first Sapphire RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ died after 3 hours. My second one has insane coil whine.
How come??
is red devil 7900xtx is good for money cooler and performance ?
nope, mine was bent, pcb was forced to cooler for better contact between vrm, memory and gpu die and cooler, but gpu was bent like banana, their quality sucks, many cases where gpus were junction temp. was hitting 110°C which is not normal for that brick sized cooler
@@resko8758 u know and gold 9700xtx modell that have good cooler and room for oc?
@@imrin4059 XFX Merc 310, Sapphire Nitro+ and probably Asus TUF Gaming
im getting 190 fps on apex legends and 100 on warzone on 1080p, my spy score is 19.000
have the rx 7900 xtx nitro and ryzen 9 3900x. don´t know why i have that bad performance.
The 3900x is slowing you down. You need at least zen3 for better scores.
Does the powercolor red devil haveva better coolerbthan the nitro? Which is bigger and heavier?
RTX 4080 Suprim X MSI👌,my Own . But 7900XTX Nitro, my Own too😍😍....😉
sooo what is the best 7900xtx out of ALL of the cards??
Nvidia 3050
I'm a bit late, but I'm like 99.9% sure that the second test in F1 was botched. the reference card is putting out a much higher framerate than the Sapphire which indicates that it was set to like 1080p or something.
You doesn’t need to oc rdna3 just undervolt and it will reach 3ghz without touching anything.
7900 XTX Reference will work better if you reinstall the cooler with better like Cooler Master CryoFuze Ultra-High Performance Thermal Paste and thiner Thermal Pad
Im thinking of getting the reference card and just apply new paste and pads. It should be enough to get almost the same temp as nitro+ stock or better
This one or the XFX black?
3050
nitro+ was 17% off used (almost new, before sapphire discounted it 10%), i didnt get it still cuz of the 2 year warranty.. got the aorus which was 15% cheaper (if comparing original retail price), but 4 year warranty. In the end, they arent that much different. Dont particularly like the curves either. If anything, ASUS has the worst price, 10% higher than the nitro, LUL.
These influencers always never mention the warranty on these GPUs which vary across the board and should be taken into account when discussing pricing. The 2 year warranty Sapphire is so rotten to stick with is a massive disadvantage.
110 Degrees Celsius vram tjunction or 85 Degrees Celsius vram tjunction, take your pick. I picked the Nitro+ as i dont want premature meltdown of my £1000 graphics card 😂