Can the Perfect CHEESE Win vs Rank 11 Grandmaster?1 | Cheesiest Man Alive

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  • @swing9170
    @swing9170 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Harstem really turned into a real terran xD Screaming out "holy crap zerg is broken" while completely destroying one :D

    • @Frontline_view_kaiser
      @Frontline_view_kaiser ปีที่แล้ว +80

      >Plays Brainless Buildorder
      >Supplyblocks himself one minute in
      >A-moves into Natural
      >Loses two marines
      >Screams at OP-Zerg
      >Wins
      Absolute Terran moment

    • @cosmicprog1
      @cosmicprog1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah bro, zerg imba at lower leagues

    • @LasseLundster
      @LasseLundster ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, lost zero marines after killing 15 lings and 4 queens plus 20 workers, calls Z broken

  • @trentconley4374
    @trentconley4374 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I've been watching so many cheesey build orders from Harstem that TH-cam is reccomeding me chesse videos

  • @CutleryChips
    @CutleryChips ปีที่แล้ว +48

    11:38 -> Sends SCV to location to build Supply Depot.
    11:43 -> Asks SCV what the heck he is doing.
    11:57 -> Questions SCV in front of entire team why depot isn’t started, ignores SCV’s justifications by acting disappointed (“of course not”) and gets another employee to finish the job
    I advise the SCV to resign and find another job. Life is too short to deal with such ridiculous management

  • @RattleSnek
    @RattleSnek ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I am dying laughing at the blind counter the protoss had there. Harstem faking a bunker accidentally causing him to go battery was the best.

    • @SPQR_14
      @SPQR_14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't play SC2 anymore, but when I did I maphacked. I literally maphacked for like 2 years straight, at top of master. It's incredibly easy to do, you never get banned, and it is far more common than people think. I still have my original account. These hacks have thousands of downloads, and yet people think it is cringe to suspect anyone of maphacking. Believe me, it really is fairly common, since the risk of getting banned is essentially zero.

    • @vesae2676
      @vesae2676 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know nearly nothing about modern SC2 meta but to me the battery at the main base was kinda sus. As if he knew he would retreat there to defend.

    • @LasseLundster
      @LasseLundster ปีที่แล้ว

      He was likely going to go 1g robo colossus fast third but after bunker he chronos stalker 2 and 2nd battery expecting a 2/3g proxy, he had no workers at expo so he was 100% expecting to lose the expo

  • @lokithedark1
    @lokithedark1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Seeing this made me think of a hilarious idea for beating GMs with stupid stuff: "a true terran all in" . When its time for the push, send literally everything that moves including the buildings across the map...

    • @PeterBressau
      @PeterBressau ปีที่แล้ว

      XD that would be the ultimative wtf Moment!

  • @bencheevers6693
    @bencheevers6693 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The captain knows, very seldom do I have a loss that isn't a theoretical victory.
    Never have theoretical losses though, hindsight is 20/20000

  • @Dubiso
    @Dubiso ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Its 1-1, but mentally, 2-0" what a line 😂😂

  • @pwoblo
    @pwoblo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great episode, love watching you explore terran

  • @thepank25
    @thepank25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you make a Mentalist comment?? Mad props, definitely didn't expect that in an SC2 video

  • @bRabbit22
    @bRabbit22 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how he complained about the Protoss in game 2 building a great blind counter to his build, but the thing is he blocked the scouting just for the Protoss to play the safest Protoss build against Terran. It wasn’t a blind counter it was the correct response to a blocked scout. Has the captain forgotten how to play Protoss after playing with Terran and Zerg too much?

  • @Juvyss
    @Juvyss ปีที่แล้ว

    "To understand what I am about to tell you, you need to believe in cheese. Can you do that? Good. See that cheese? What about there? That's me Kevin Allen, the cheesest man alive!"

  • @jtsyo8364
    @jtsyo8364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stupid stuff idea: Play up Terran as usual but when doing a push, divide army into 2. 8 marines + 3 marauders on one side with 3 medivacs worth of units with them. All other troops on the other side. When the enemy splits his army, you drop your units and ambush the smaller force.

  • @newtonsfourth3143
    @newtonsfourth3143 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to see the cheese lifestyle still up and active. Keep it up captain o7

  • @andreashalbfeld7671
    @andreashalbfeld7671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a content MACHINE!

  • @BoneAppleTea
    @BoneAppleTea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reaper battle was against BabyMarine, Reynor's little brother haha

  • @crescentmoon2806
    @crescentmoon2806 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed the intro, nice touch

  • @sergritm
    @sergritm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on 50 million views on the channel, Harstem🎉🎉🎉

  • @franciscogonzalez3127
    @franciscogonzalez3127 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excelente video, aprendí mucho

  • @zachthomas3333
    @zachthomas3333 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your videos! Next time don’t build a real fake bunker 😂

  • @Steven-gc2pm
    @Steven-gc2pm ปีที่แล้ว

    Really looking forward to seeing this one again tbh

  • @hey8174
    @hey8174 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It has to be mathematically and statistically optimal to blind cheese like this a fraction of the time.. maybe a small fraction, but not 0%.

    • @asdfqwerty14587
      @asdfqwerty14587 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, the only strategies that should never be used are strategies that are still bad even when the opponent doesn't change the way they play at all because of it. If the opponent needs to make any amount of decision making that's even slightly different because of the possibility of a strategy existing then it should be used a non-zero amount of the time.

    • @johnmorrell3187
      @johnmorrell3187 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the context. In a tournament when you opponent will prepare and react to strategies game to game the matches you have are not independent events, and having some cheese forces the opponent to always play more conservatively.
      In ladder play, each game can be considered an independent event, in which case you should always play the strat with the highest win rate every game, no exception.

    • @johnmorrell3187
      @johnmorrell3187 ปีที่แล้ว

      Assuming, of course, that your only goal is to maximize winrate and not to have fun or improve as a player.

    • @asdfqwerty14587
      @asdfqwerty14587 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mistake you're making is that you're imagining the win rate as being some inherent property of a strategy - it isn't. Some strategies are strong vs. other strategies and weak vs. others, and the win rate of a strategy will vary depending on what other people are doing.
      In practice, if nobody ever cheesed, then people would stop playing around cheese, because there's no advantage to playing around a strategy that nobody uses. If nobody plays around cheese, then cheese would be by far the strongest strategy. On the other hand, if everyone played cheese, then people would obviously always play around cheese which would drop the win rate of cheese and force people to switch to different strategies.
      Put these things together and you can pretty easily show that when the meta settles, even when people are playing purely by win rate, there will be some percentage of games that are cheese games that is neither 0% nor 100% even when all players are playing optimally. What really happens is if everyone is playing to win, then every competitive strategy (ie. any strategy that requires the opponent to deliberately change the way they play because of the possibility of said strategy existing) would have a 50% win rate, and the only thing that really changes is what % of the time each strategy is used.

  • @Frontline_view_kaiser
    @Frontline_view_kaiser ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After this I'm convinced that Harstem doesn't repond to our comments because idiots are not allowed in his comment-guidelines.
    All jokes aside, we love you Cap

  • @flamehunter911
    @flamehunter911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think gg counter should actually be a no gg counter
    Did you really cheese if they gg'ed after?

  • @mrstoffo
    @mrstoffo ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Harstem losing to the mentalist :D. loved the emotions in this game

  • @anthonyabankin2968
    @anthonyabankin2968 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats sad is this is how excited i get when i win against an ai in starcraft xD 3:34

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    2:56 -> needless supply depo ;p

  • @Fimbu1vetr
    @Fimbu1vetr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn can't believe this strat works in GM loll

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great because it exploits one of the key differentiating mechanics of Terran: the ability to produce workers as fast as other races but then to use them as units while acquiring minerals with energy

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter ปีที่แล้ว

      Many of these differentiating characteristics are underused, like Protoss taking proxy bases & using recall to move workers/warp-in to defend

  • @fdcrat
    @fdcrat ปีที่แล้ว

    What's up with the flaming around 8:45? The guy scouted no cc, a couple of marines, and an attempt to bunker his nat. Being a mid-GM player, his response was completely reasonable. As far as I can tell, this wasn't a blind counter, just a counter.

  • @dirkbester9050
    @dirkbester9050 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fake bunkered so he batteries. Then I cancelled but he did not. Outrageous! Simply not allowed!

  • @xever61
    @xever61 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That second game looked like the biggest bullshit ever my god.

  • @itsjack8587
    @itsjack8587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha, awesome to watch!

  • @visceraljourney
    @visceraljourney ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to see you play some custom games with no unit cap limit (more than 200)

  • @WindmillManALM
    @WindmillManALM ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouts out the homie Raza! 😄😄

  • @davidbardwell712
    @davidbardwell712 ปีที่แล้ว

    any news on that barcode Terran?🤣

  • @tres-3770
    @tres-3770 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just heard that you could stasis units and just leave a purification Nova ontop of them for when they come back to life, so if it's doable I'd love to see you do like disruptor phoenix oracle and basically drop enemy units into novas or just insta kill them after stasis

    • @victornunes900
      @victornunes900 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not as easy as you make it sound. You have to time the disruptor ball to hit right after the stasis ends. Do it too soon and the units take no damage. Do it too late and your opponent has time to micro them.

    • @tres-3770
      @tres-3770 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victornunes900 I believe that it's quite challenging, but I also believe that the players who play this game are barely human to even manage the apm they do

  • @qwqwq2010
    @qwqwq2010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    clearly captain has not played many games in lower level pvt, buffaloslice's response to a full-wall terran is actually textbook, counters all early 3bb/4bb rush and fast robo to deal with mines. the reason pro don't respond like that is probably pro don't actually play full-wall 4bb all-in lollll

  • @ethanaleman
    @ethanaleman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terran for life!

  • @kudohlol9379
    @kudohlol9379 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are awesome harstem

  • @muffinsmuffins8074
    @muffinsmuffins8074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    T H E O R E T I C A L V I C T O R Y

  • @audreym2041
    @audreym2041 ปีที่แล้ว

    wasa. good video

  • @Skydv2005
    @Skydv2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I hate mass reapear.

  • @Akegata42
    @Akegata42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These are some serious Idra vibes, blaming your losses on the opposition not being good enough.

  • @sashasashha7011
    @sashasashha7011 ปีที่แล้ว

    BitbyBit flashbacks

  • @vigilanterorschach2600
    @vigilanterorschach2600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is that second guy even thinking? You saw nothing - TBF he decided to not scout anything - then goes for a random build that is not even a build and gets away with it since it happened to counter Harstem's build. That is the definition of you lost because the enemy is too low elo. So what happens if the enemy just goes full on economy or high tech and you just insta lose. 0 thought given to strategy. These things make me mad...
    Strategy game where you don't strategise at all...

  • @boartank
    @boartank ปีที่แล้ว

    last game was stupid. build works though

  • @zes7215
    @zes7215 ปีที่แล้ว

    no such thing as apex or etc, tallx 1uferiox bloat, doesnt matter

  • @sleestak6342
    @sleestak6342 ปีที่แล้ว

    bob build

  • @InfinityDsbm
    @InfinityDsbm ปีที่แล้ว

    🫡

  • @deathcraft2299
    @deathcraft2299 ปีที่แล้ว

    alg

  • @REALAMERICANMAN531
    @REALAMERICANMAN531 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:42 aaaaaaaaaahahhahahahahahahhhahahahahahahahhhahahahahagaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅😅

  • @REALAMERICANMAN531
    @REALAMERICANMAN531 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:20 i learned how to hit GM like harstem.... dont play on one account until you have 1000+++ bonus points... THEN you can place in diamond league off top.... thrn youre sitting in diamond with 1000 MMR bonus points... ez GM... 😒🙄🙄🙄 did i say harstem??? I meant. Jerry seinfeld.....