8 min - exactly fuckin right. this point needs to be made far more often. dont think for one second that if these bastards that believe this bullshit had the power they once had - we'd be right back in the dark ages. this is insidious stuff. excellent montage. one of the best ive seen on hitch - and ive seen just about all if them
Religion divides people into camps and each camp is taught that the other camps are "wrong". Some even go so far as to say if you leave or refute the teachings of your camp you are doomed to an eternity if hellfire and pain. And that is why I never go camping.
“Camping” Lame argument and cringe worthy attempt at emulating Christopher Hitchens who ironically became an apologist for the dirty deeds of the American empire in the end!
The irony and the absurdity, of course, is that this CULT of Hitchens [That is this CULT of reason] is clearly more dogmatic than some of the worst ideologies and is nothing more substantive than a atheistic, materialistic quasi religion based on scientism and materialism of the gaps fallacies - right? Moreover, the belief that atheists are just humble, liberal freethinkers and just genuine “TRUTH” seekers who “logically” have a greater love and a greater empathy and greater respect for their fellow human beings than anyone else is the greatest secular fairytale ever told!! The fact is that a strictly reductive materialism, atheism or philosophical naturalism basically says that [no ONE took forever to turn the accidental arrangement of the MAGICAL cosmic tea leaves at the bottom of the atheists morning cup of tea into everything] - yes? The irony is that this is an unprovable, unscientific, metaphysical presupposition and a transcendental category and a “secular” myth!! I don’t need your “secular” myths nor your “secular” religion to know right from wrong!! I wouldn’t have the arrogance to RIDICULE, GASLIGHT, OR LECTURE A BEREAVED MOTHER during a pandemic whose only consolation is the hope of being reunited with her child in some kind of afterlife!! The irony is that it turns out that Christianity is actually more [liberal minded] and also less religious and less dogmatic than modern atheism and left wing “enlightenment” SNOBS such as Christopher Hitchens. The left wing cancel culture and the left wing THOUGHT POLICE have done a great job of illustrating this. Furthermore, according to the former atheist and famous author and Oxford professor C. S. Lewis….. “If you are a Christian you do not have to believe that all the other religions are simply wrong all through. If you are an atheist you have to believe that the main point in all the religions of the whole world is simply one huge mistake” (C.S. Lewis). The irony and the absurdity is that militant atheists pride themselves on being more “rational” more “freethinking” and more “liberal” minded than everyone else - right? But as C.S. Lewis points out, in reality, if you are a genuine Christian you are actually (more liberal) and (more freethinking) than the militant atheist as you are free to respect everyone and you are free think that all religions, even the strangest ones including pagan religions contain some elements of truth and a genuine attempt to ground metaphysics, that is a genuine attempt to ground Truth and value. According to C. S. Lewis…. “When I was an atheist I had to try to persuade myself that most of the human race have always been wrong about the question that mattered to them most; when I became a Christian I was able to take a more liberal view” (C.S. Lewis)
Ahem....I think you'll find that he does have a religious bias. He's fervently anti-religious, which is by its very definition, a biased position, is it not? All opinion has bias.
@@petercashell9086 I meant he doesn’t or didn’t have a pro religious bias. You are correct. Every opinion has a bias of some kind otherwise it wouldn’t be an opinion.
Boy the encore right at the end is a bit of a gem, especially as I think I might have watched every clip of the hitch that's available online except for that bit. Quite a surprise. Long live the hitch!
I’m now reading, “god is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything!” & I love it!🥰😚😘. I just hate that I never got to meet Chris Hutchins when he was alive!!🙁😔😚
I hear a lot of respect for Mr Hitchens. But i also hear a lot criticism of him being too critical of religion. People who believe we should offer more deference and respect for religion than Hitchens gave religion. Sorry, letting religion off the hook for any of the billions of death it is responsible for is wholey disrespectful to all of its victims. The position and beliefs of religion cause massive harm and should not be given any undue respect or credit. I am sorry that many theist delude themselves about the harm they do. But they need to come to terms with the facts. Come to terms with how immoral their morality is.
Sire, you have have said perfectly well, ecclesiastical people in robes are not apologizing enough for what their ancestors have done (even if they do so is no use) I reckon I was luck to spot him on c-span in the mid 1980s from there onwards I collected his writings (yep even from Vanity Fair) most importantly his 17 written books. Got lucky in late 2007 acquiring god Is Not Great # 9 from the first 1000 copies (hardcover) signed by the great man himself, that book stays with me till the end of my days, then I’ll pass it on to my son and so on.
Nice try ,as usual revisionist history ,and as atheists do, completely misrepresenting so many things they talk about to soothe they're conscience while routinely violating it, and prop up they're pride and arrogance . Secular humanist atheist history compared to "religious " history in terms of death, murder,genocide ,chaos,lies,crime of all sorts and nature,crimes against humanity,greed,deception ,and overall dismissiveness of the overall plight ,truth,and well being of humanity is like comparing the size of the universe to our planet,and still doesn't capture the difference between the carnage and devastation left by atheists after they've licked they're chops when they're through,you people have a voracious irresistible gluttonous appetite for ignorance and pride as you goose step march and clap to your god and king.... yourselves and c.h.
@@AFMMD-q8 “Not apologising enough” “I’ll pass it on to my son” Oh the irony. Sorry to break it to you buddy but history and the current cancel culture, not to mention the current left wing THOUGHT POLICE clearly demonstrates that there is no indoctrination and no HATRED quite like so called “LEFT WING LIBERAL, ATHEISTIC LOVE”.
The fact is that militant atheism, that is fatalism and epistemological nihilism is a CULT MOVEMENT hidden behind the cloak of “rationality” and scientism and materialism of the gaps fallacies, that constantly uses anti religious Soviet hate propaganda left over from the Cold War. That is history revisionism and dishonest memes and buzz words to mock, badger and demonise anyone who challenges its myths and metaphysical presuppositions. It’s no different to debating a recruiter from the church of Scientology who just won’t leave you alone!! Furthermore, the fact is that demonising religious expression, that is demonising your political opponents by pretending that they are all a massive “PROBLEM” who prey upon humanity, is an ancient propaganda tool that’s been used by everyone from medieval dictators, to serial killers to the Soviet Unions propaganda machine. “Death is the solution to all problems, no man no problem.” - [Joseph Stalin]. The fact is that when you lie, and stereotype religious expression, and straw man and malign Christ you are not raging against the MACHINE, you’re raging FOR THE MACHINE. The survivors of the Soviet Gulags reported that as they were being tortured by Stalin’s guards, the atheistic guards could be heard saying… “There is no God, no heaven, and we may do as we wish”. Which is obviously true if atheism is true. So like Ted Bundy they were just being “logically” consistent with this strictly reductive, causally closed, atheistic, nihilistic fan fiction!! The fact is that the theme song on the way to HELL is… “I DID IT MY WAY!!!!”
You NEVER know what the religious will make up next. Don't they EVER get tired of lying? Can they not even follow their "deeply-held objective absolute morality" enough to not lie all the time?
kerwinbrown4180 WROTE "God is natural." I replied "Which one? There are thousands." What followed was the typical deflect/distract nonsense that people try when they have no answer and are unwilling to admit it.
“There are thousands” NOPE!! They all fundamentally share a transcendental outlook and a belief in a prime reality. Your argument is also a self own on multiple levels. Look up [Appeal to Neutrality Fallacy] colloquially known as the [Pretended Neutrality Fallacy]. Sorry but the fallacious argument that there are 3000 different flavours of religious expression therefore atheism is “True” is self refuting. There are lots of different views regarding the fundamental nature of reality therefore one particular flavour.. atheism/fatalism and epistemological nihilism is “True” by default is a self own on multiple levels!! The irony and the absurdity is that atheism, that is fatalism and epistemological nihilism would simply be nothing more substantive than the 3001st flavour? And a very bland and depressing flavour of reality at that which is why militant atheism is so UNPOPULAR and has a reputation for being SMUG, tedious and inevitably leads to fatalism, epistemological nihilism and sui.tidal ideation!! Especially if you are intellectually honest and live it out consistently.
Sorry to break it to you buddy but the fundamental nature of [MIND/CONSCIOUSNESS/FREEWILL/THE ACTUAL/THE ONE/MONOTHEISM] says exactly one thing and one thing only!! It isn’t a “claim” buddy, its just a [single position on a single issue]. I just simply “lack a belief” that we are all nothing more substantive than ULTIMATELY MEANINGLESS, HOLLOW AND SOULLESS APES WHO SHARE HALF THEIR DNA WITH A POTATO - right? That’s your position LOL!! So the burden of proof on you. I’ll wait!! Moreover, the fact is that a strictly reductive materialism, atheism or philosophical naturalism inevitably leads to fatalism and epistemological nihilism and SUI TIDAL ideation. Especially if you are intellectually honest enough to live it out consistently. Which you clearly aren’t! I just simply hold a [position of disbelief] with regards to the claim that we are all nothing more substantive than overgrown amoebas with illusions of grandeur. By contrast if you reject metaphysics and a transcendental outlook you actually have no choice but to believe that we are all just ultimately meaningless, hollow and soulless overgrown amoebas with illusions of grandeur and that your “BRAIN” and “RATIONAL” thinking came from unguided, blind, mindless, ultimately meaningless, chance and coincidence - Yes? And you actually trust it - right? Exactly!! Glad we cleared that one up!! I mean, everyone has a right to believe what they want and everyone including theists have a right to find it totally ridiculous, totally fatalistic totally nihilistic and totally self refuting!!
We teach our children about Santa Claus till they're old enough to know the truth. And then we bait and switch them into believing in Jesus. I mean, think about it, there's very little difference between Santa Claus and Jesus as far as kids are concerned: Santa brings them presents, Jesus brings them heaven. All you have to do is believe. LOL
“I can hit on “like” only once” Oh the irony!! That’s your CULTISH tendencies showing. The CULT of Hitchens is beyond ironic and absurd!! I rest my case!!
"Since man's mind is his basic tool of survival , his means of gaining knowledge to guide his actions---the basic condition he requires is the freedom to think and to act according to his rational judgment." -Ayn Rand-
After extracting DNA from the samples, Wolfe used the genetic codes of four different genes to determine how the various species are related to one another. He then used a process called ancestral state reconstruction to show that the mushrooms have switched from being decomposers to being symbiotic with trees only once in their evolutionary history. Once the mushrooms switched to this new symbiotic lifestyle, they didn't go back to their free-living past. Ultimately, Pringle said, the paper highlights one reason she finds such symbiotic partnerships "intrinsically interesting" -- for all their apparent benefits, the cost can be high. "I think the really interesting thing is this idea that once you become symbiotic, some of your machinery is lost," she said. "It seems like a dead end in some ways -- you have to make this change to enter this niche, but once you're there, you can't go back -- you've lost the capacity to be free-living."
@@todaystheday8 Yes, endlessly. The folks who wrote it were like Navaho code talkers. We know that nothing supernatural actually happens either now or in the past so we can surmise that anything written that sounds physically impossible or improbable is not intended to be taken literally. Did Peter really whip out a sword and cut a man's ear off and then the ear was miraculously restored by Jesus? No, that is just a metaphor, a figure of speech. The high priest's servant came to arrest Jesus on orders from the high priest. Peter angrily challenged the basis for the arrest, really laid into the servant, "bit his ear off", so to speak. And because he knew that the servant was just following orders, Jesus intervened , forgave and comforted the man, "healing" his ear that had been cut off by Peter's sword of truth. Get it?^
I know I am not going to live forever and neither are you, but until my furlough here on earth is revoked, I shall elbow aside the established pieties and raise my 🥃 tumbler of Johnnie Walker Black in honor of the brilliant oratory and intellect that was Christopher Hitchens, the world is indeed a poorer place without Hitchens and I sorely miss that man, his legacy ensures his immortality. 💐
10:34 for those wondering this is a debate featuring Hitchens and Hitchens. (The brothers, Peter and Christopher, debate the war in Iraq and some version of; Christianity vs atheism or the God debate) the thing to note about the clip, is that annoying voice that is drowned out by the applause is actually the “mediator” and not the other interlocutor, Peter. While I do agree an unbiased host is not necessary, the fervor of the follow-up is just one of the many demonstrations of a lack of professionalism, a genuine commitment to discovering truth through formal debate and the utility of changing of minds by means of logic, reason and argumentation. and the actions of the mediator end up taking away from a truly incredible debate….ok a harrowing beating laid down by Christopher onto Peter, leading to what is most commonly know as a BF or a grown man tantrum. Though as embarrassing as that may have been for Peter, the host ended up being the speaker you would have rather never heard.
My own family were Presbyterian Scots heritage. Regular churchgoers. The kept their word and raised us in that faith. For some reason or other, although they tried their best, their faith and beliefs were never to make any sence to be. I dont believe in any of it and have no feel for the alleged reality of something existing that was fundamentaly man made. If on occasions like watching TV programs, this one here as an example, have me feeling decidedly uncomfortable. Its much like believing that a Magicians trick are indeed real rather than lllusionery.
I died for 2mins 38secs on 3rd August 1996! I 'saw' My Grandfather (couldn't tell you which one) in an almost grey environment! This may have been the drugs the Doctors put in me or just memories of great times with them! Either way it was a 'miracle'...Was it bollocks a 'miracle'! The 'miracle' were the highly trained surgeons who saved my life & because of their expertise & incredible training is what saved my life! Live life to the fullest.......it's the only one you will have....
@@georgedoyle2487Nice, so what’s your position on conservative racism and refusing to act on gun violence against school kids or limiting women’s rights over her own body or deporting families for having the audacity of wanting to escape the drug war perpetrated by America?
@@Jcs57 “What’s your position” Firstly, im British so as a nation we don’t even agree with having guns. Secondly, Ive never voted conservative in my life. Thirdly, you don’t have to be religious or a man to be pro life - right? This is just an atheistic, nihilistic fan fiction and a trope constantly used by aggressive pro choice activists!! The pro life position is actually mainly led by women and even atheists recognise the irrationality of the so called “PRO CHOICE” position as it is clearly a slippery slope to infanticide - yes? I mean, even Christopher Hitchens didn’t agree with abortion and he’s a materialist and a notorious atheist - yes? Try again!! Also look up the appeal to hypocrisy fallacy and appeal to moral outrage fallacy. “Just as no human being of average moral capacity could be indifferent to the sight of a woman being kicked in the stomach, so nobody could fail to be far more outraged if the woman in question were pregnant. Embryology confirms morality.” (Christopher Hitchens).
It just saddens me he ended up entrenched in theologically driven position with his support of the war in Iraq. He did a lot of good but that was a shame.
@@SteCoughlan Aww listening to easily triggered militant atheists proselytising about ultimate “TRUTH” and “VALUE” whilst subscribing to the belief that we are all nothing more substantive than ULTIMATELY MEANINGLESS, HOLLOW AND SOULLESS APES WHO SHARE HALF THEIR DNA WITH A POTATO IS PRICELESS! Moreover, listening to strictly reductive materialists, atheists or philosophical naturalists appealing to metaphysical presuppositions such as “TRUTH” and “VALUE” whilst subscribing to the belief that we are all nothing more substantive than ultimately meaningless HOLLOW AND SOULLESS, OVERGROWN AMOEBAS WITH ILLUSIONS OF GRANDEUR is as entertaining as watching someone trying to thrash the front of his car with the branch of a tree in order to BEAT IT INTO SUBMISSION! It's very Monty Python like at times and very Basil Fawlty like at times! But without the comedy value. CRINGE ATHEISM in full effect!!
@@SteCoughlan This is brilliant!! Cry into your Hitchhikers guard to the ultimately meaningless, hollow and soulless ape who shares half their DNA with a potato!!
@@SteCoughlan * This is brilliant!! Cry into your Hitchhikers guard to the ultimately meaningless, hollow and soulless ape who shares half their DNA with a potato!!
It is entertaining and comical, but.... Religious people keep the cookie industry going, for they still leave cookies and milk out for Santa even after the kids grow up and leave home.
I used to love listening to all this egotistical crap. Now I happily believe in God. My life changed for the better when I started to believe. The trouble is God to me is a natural state of being, a truer reflection of the state we were all once in before this suffocating culture arose. Scapegoating God or Satan for that matter is narcissism. Take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming external forces for the way you feel inside.
The essential difference: For theists, reason is primary and matter secondary, while atheists reverse the order so that reason (“ratio” - especially logic) becomes a secondary random product of brain evolution. (Paradoxically, they nevertheless trust it and even see themselves as “rationalists” … 😆). So theists are true rationalists because for them reason (the Logos of God) is primary and matter is secondary. Actually, logic and mathematics are prior to matter. This is seen in the simple fact that mathematics and, more generally, the immaterial laws of logic can only be thought of consistently as being valid before, in, after - and hence indeed independently of every material world. For example, as Leibniz wrote in a note of 1677: "It is true, and even necessary, that the circle is the largest isoperimetric figure, even if no circle ever existed in reality. And even if neither I nor you nor any other human being ever existed." Likewise, the Euclidean prime number theorem or the fundamental theorem of algebra, for example, cannot be thought of in any other way than being unconditionally valid in every conceivable material world. Since there are spaceless and timeless, i.e. immaterial and eternal truths, such as the laws of logic and mathematics, there must be something that constitutes their eternal being. According to Leibniz, this 'something' is the Logos God. Obviously, this is not the rediculous inner-worldly "God" that some new atheists caricature (and rightly reject), but a God compatible with the "Logos" who, according to the Evangelist John, "was in the beginning" - Eν αρχη ην o λoγoς [John 1-1]. Every rational argument, whether theistic or atheistic, requires logic and that is exactly how both testify to the Logos. The first consistently, the second obviously not 🤗
He’s taking down a misinterpretation of something, his doing so doesn’t make those who follow it any better off. It’s very easy to take literal interpretations apart, and quite another thing to tend to the question of consciousness. Anyone contending that consciousness is temporal is in the same place as a literalist believer.
I love his style - but aren't you weary, in these compilations, of not being allowed to hear the *responses* to his pronouncements? Presented with them in this 'airbrushed' form, I feel rather as though I'm a student in 1966, listening to aphorisms from Mao's *Little Red Book:* I'm sure most of them are not only beautiful but profound - but to deny full voice to the other side is a calamitous flaw. Pretty sure Hitchens, himself, would be irritated that so many TH-camrs, in crowing worship of "The Hitch," fail even to attempt to ingest alternative points of view. That is certainly not why Hitchens attended so many debates; on the contrary, he enjoyed the cut and thrust of well-articulated argument. From the "we're right, and you're dumb" frame of mind to believing anything (everything declared by, say, Vladimir Putin - or, worse, let's take "plain-speaking" Donald Trump) is really not such a great leap - as my highly intelligent but, frankly, way too credulous, Dutch cousin has demonstrated time and again* *[one year he declared an increased parental enthusiasm for natural medicine and herbal cures which, I'm first to acknowledge, seem to have done him and his family no harm at all (and I don't doubt there is a growing body of evidence that largely corporate-funded "clinical trials" have indeed tended to introduce cognitive if not downright fraudulent bias into the 'scientific' development and marketing of increasingly expensive drugs, eg. the supposedly "safe" opioids now plaguing North America); but, by the time we'd all fully emerged from CoViD lockdowns and anti-vax demos, he was now asserting Zelenskiy (his Jewish heritage notwithstanding - alongside a goodly proportion of Ukraine's parliament, the Verkhovna Rada) to be part of some international Nazi conspiracy against the formerly socialist (now Neo-Stalinist) Russian motherland - albeit not quite of that mythical 'multi-dimensional blood-drinking Pharonic or Aztec paedophile lizard bloodline,' once so popular with conspiracy theorists just after the turn of the Millennium.] I think GK Chesterton was credited with pointing out that a singular problem with loss of faith is the risk that people who believe *nothing* soon become prone to believe *anything.* I don't personally share his pessimism: I want to be exposed to all argument; to consider each as potentially true for at least as long as it takes to be rationally discredited; and I live in hope that fellow human beings would be similarly unafraid of ever exploring alternative viewpoint. From the point of view of Hitchens - and even Dawkins, still (just about) - it is vital for rationalists always at least to *listen* to counter-argument; to entertain all reasonably well articulated ideas with a mind open enough to be prepared to change.
Links are in the description for the full debates. This video (and channel) isn’t intended to give those people a platform (Frank Turek and the others probably still out there talking nonsense). I’m focusing in on the arguments themselves and hoping to help people fine tune their own thinking and understanding. It’s not even about Hitch. Although there’s really no one better, hence Hitch.
God is love, and God is the natural world. God is a verb--loving. We are godly when we love, which includes being inclusive, tolerant, non-judgmental, foregiving, compassionate, etc. Love and nature are God, and heaven and/or hell is now in this lifetime. Religion is something else reflecting the fear that drives much of human nature.
(Continued) I guess the word "God" is only needed for our own comfort, but it's probably helpful to get rid of the word and just be loving, compassionate, tolerant, inclusive, etc. to eliminate division of belief systems. But, alas, people want to turn God into a religion to create divison and assert power over the other.
They have been explained scientifically by the effects of the brain shutting down. The fact that the brain powers up again and leaves the person with some interesting memories and impressions is just biology.
@@stephenbouchelle7706 You're lying to yourself. There is no scientific, medical, or conceivable naturalistic explanation for an indivudual's consciousness transiting sometimes hundreds of miles to witness conversations and participate in events outside of one's physical body--yet thatvis what has been verifiably recorded to have happened in hundreds of recorded instances. Do some reading then get back to us. The 20th century ended nearly a quarter of a century ago!
@@James-ll3jb could you provide just one peer reviewed paper for our reading pleasure from an unbiased source that shows "verifiably recorded" accounts of NDE
Historical actions of violence, separation, and any/all fear control mechanisms of religions are whats to become as the End of those religions as we know it.
Secular societies aren’t banning religions. Freedom of religion means everyone can choose and practice their own beliefs and/or non belief. Which also means no religion has preferential treatment under the law over any others. Hitch was warning potential lawmakers and activists to be careful of how the law is both ineffective towards AND could be used to incite religious extremism. He’s very obviously in favor of free speech and uses it to his advantage…and to the advantage of reason and evidence and the enlightenment and etc.
Hitch never said religion should banned. He said you are welcome to play with your toys as much as you want, but please keep them at home and don’t try to make others play with them.
@@TheTerminator-2 Not really. The Ancient Egyptians claim God created himself and then created those other gods. The Hebrews disagreed and claimed God has always existed and called those created gods angels. The religious storytellers took liberties when retelling their stories.
@@kerwinbrown4180 Why do you think that non-reply answered my question? There are billions of people who think you are full of crap. I am one of them. SENT THE DUDE PACKING !!!!!!!!!!
@@TheTerminator-2 Yes, I answered your reply by exposing your lack of knowledge. The investigation of God has been going on since humanity rose from the ground. I pointed out the line of reason of two different society. You have to do your own investigating.
If you would like to accept Jesus as your Savior pray this aloud: "Lord Jesus, I repent of my sins and surrender my life. Wash me clean. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day for my Victory, I believe that in my heart and make confession with my mouth, that Jesus is my Savior and Lord."
Oh dear lord brother, you’re at the wrong end of the spectrum. Some questions if I may… Does this count as spell casting and does saying aloud really matter if you’re alone at the time? Is the conversion complete without baptism or are you suggesting just audible surrender is good enough?
@@todaystheday8 No, every thing said is NOT a spell. You could say that about any spoken word. Why do you apply these arguments only to Christianity? Surrendering your life to Christ is the beginning of the journey. Where it takes you is God's will for your life.
Hitchens was NOT a serious thinker 😮 His work on Trotsky was complete BS and he came to admit it 30 years after the fact! I used to teach an informal logical fallacy class using just Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, and Dennett’s statements. Here Hitch uses one o of his favorites, appeal to humor in order to dodge the facts of NDEs 😮 Appeal to mockery, appeals to verbosity, mob and snob appeals are other techniques Hitch employs in order to dodge engaging knockdown arguments for his position. One must be deeply ignorant to find his approach to knowledge adequate😮 There are legitimate arguments out there to be sure but Hitch doesn’t use them often and is such a weak thinker he may not be familiar with them.😮 For a better defense of atheism read J.L. Mackey or J.H. Sobel, Graham Oppy, or Antony Flew (before he converted to theism)😅
You just prove that even such intelligent person as Hitch can admit when he is wrong (after so many years )thanks for complementing The Hitch he deserves that
Sorry but judiasm was not the inventors of monotheism, Zoroaster was the state religion of Persia, It is Called Zoroastrianism, When the persians swept across the land jews were taken as slaves and introduced to the one god claim's, They then changed their many gods into 1 god and all his offsiders became human characters in the torah.
Monotheism may in fact be far, far older even than that. Although not nailed down with iron-clad certainty, there is a very strong and persuasive body of evidence that the pharaoh Akhenaten was introducing what we would recognise as monotheism as far back as 1400BCE, millennia before Zoroaster.
So if there is nothing after we are dead then why are we here in the first place wouldn't be better for us to never exist, and avoid all the shit that life hands you
I actually cover this in my philosophy video. Essentially you have a choice between nihilism, objectivism, and existentialism. You are describing one form of nihilism…that because there is no reward in heaven, life is meaningless. Objectivism says there is meaning out in the world and you just have to find it. Existentialism says you are the source of your own meaning and you just have to become your authentic self. But of course it’s a lot more complicated than that which is probably why I like Absurdism so much.
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1-2 times a week i search for new videos of Hitch, glad there are people still keeping the legend alive! The world needs Hitch badly
Same:)
We cando that sure but more importanyly we keep what he stood for alive and that is the will to oppose the opression that is religious dogma.
Yes just added this to my list of his lectures 👍
@@MARStheFORSAKENabsolutely, what the world needs is us
Very much missed 😢
8 min - exactly fuckin right. this point needs to be made far more often. dont think for one second that if these bastards that believe this bullshit had the power they once had - we'd be right back in the dark ages. this is insidious stuff.
excellent montage. one of the best ive seen on hitch - and ive seen just about all if them
Hitchens tries to get people to think of other possibilities. A great man. 🇦🇺 😊
Man, Hitchens will forever be in a league of his own. I wish more people would listen to him. And HEAR him. We miss you, Hitch. Thank you.
I pity you if you think that.
@@James-ll3jbwhy do you pity him?
@@johneckerle9480 "No one quite LIES the way the morally indignant do!" - Nietzsche
Riiiiiiiight. @@James-ll3jb
I’ve consumed so much of Christopher Hitchens’s library of content, and this is my favorite compilation. Cheers, great work!
Religion divides people into camps and each camp is taught that the other camps are "wrong". Some even go so far as to say if you leave or refute the teachings of your camp you are doomed to an eternity if hellfire and pain.
And that is why I never go camping.
“Camping”
Lame argument and cringe worthy attempt at emulating Christopher Hitchens who ironically became an apologist for the dirty deeds of the American empire in the end!
The irony and the absurdity, of course, is that this CULT of Hitchens [That is this CULT of reason] is clearly more dogmatic than some of the worst ideologies and is nothing more substantive than a atheistic, materialistic quasi religion based on scientism and materialism of the gaps fallacies - right?
Moreover, the belief that atheists are just humble, liberal freethinkers and just genuine “TRUTH” seekers who “logically” have a greater love and a greater empathy and greater respect for their fellow human beings than anyone else is the greatest secular fairytale ever told!!
The fact is that a strictly reductive materialism, atheism or philosophical naturalism basically says that [no ONE took forever to turn the accidental arrangement of the MAGICAL cosmic tea leaves at the bottom of the atheists morning cup of tea into everything] - yes? The irony is that this is an unprovable, unscientific, metaphysical presupposition and a transcendental category and a “secular” myth!!
I don’t need your “secular” myths nor your “secular” religion to know right from wrong!! I wouldn’t have the arrogance to RIDICULE, GASLIGHT, OR LECTURE A BEREAVED MOTHER during a pandemic whose only consolation is the hope of being reunited with her child in some kind of afterlife!!
The irony is that it turns out that Christianity is actually more [liberal minded] and also less religious and less dogmatic than modern atheism and left wing “enlightenment” SNOBS such as Christopher Hitchens. The left wing cancel culture and the left wing THOUGHT POLICE have done a great job of illustrating this.
Furthermore, according to the former atheist and famous author and Oxford professor C. S. Lewis…..
“If you are a Christian you do not have to believe that all the other religions are simply wrong all through. If you are an atheist you have to believe that the main point in all the religions of the whole world is simply one huge mistake” (C.S. Lewis).
The irony and the absurdity is that militant atheists pride themselves on being more “rational” more “freethinking” and more “liberal” minded than everyone else - right? But as C.S. Lewis points out, in reality, if you are a genuine Christian you are actually (more liberal) and (more freethinking) than the militant atheist as you are free to respect everyone and you are free think that all religions, even the strangest ones including pagan religions contain some elements of truth and a genuine attempt to ground metaphysics, that is a genuine attempt to ground Truth and value.
According to C. S. Lewis….
“When I was an atheist I had to try to persuade myself that most of the human race have always been wrong about the question that mattered to them most; when I became a Christian I was able to take a more liberal view” (C.S. Lewis)
@@georgedoyle2487HERE HERE
I don't usually listen to people I totally agree with but Hitchens is such a joy to listen to I just can't help myself....
I’m a huge fan of Christopher Hitchens. Whenever I want an opinion of a very intelligent man without a religious bias, I looked to him.
Ahem....I think you'll find that he does have a religious bias. He's fervently anti-religious, which is by its very definition, a biased position, is it not? All opinion has bias.
@@petercashell9086 I meant he doesn’t or didn’t have a pro religious bias.
You are correct. Every opinion has a bias of some kind otherwise it wouldn’t be an opinion.
Boy the encore right at the end is a bit of a gem, especially as I think I might have watched every clip of the hitch that's available online except for that bit. Quite a surprise. Long live the hitch!
Same, it's always nice stumbling upon new (to me) Hitch stuff. Doesn't often happen lol
I’m now reading, “god is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything!” & I love it!🥰😚😘. I just hate that I never got to meet Chris Hutchins when he was alive!!🙁😔😚
Oops. Try again.
Notice the speaker interrupts right after Hitchens makes brilliant points so you will forget them.
I miss him very much.
Also...love it when Hitch makes them squirm. He's damn good at it too.
28:45. so rare to see hitchens actually smiling. chuckling, even.
Really? He loves a wry dig, even at himself.
Great compilation, thanks!
I hear a lot of respect for Mr Hitchens. But i also hear a lot criticism of him being too critical of religion. People who believe we should offer more deference and respect for religion than Hitchens gave religion. Sorry, letting religion off the hook for any of the billions of death it is responsible for is wholey disrespectful to all of its victims. The position and beliefs of religion cause massive harm and should not be given any undue respect or credit. I am sorry that many theist delude themselves about the harm they do. But they need to come to terms with the facts. Come to terms with how immoral their morality is.
Sire, you have have said perfectly well, ecclesiastical people in robes are not apologizing enough for what their ancestors have done (even if they do so is no use) I reckon I was luck to spot him on c-span in the mid 1980s from there onwards I collected his writings (yep even from Vanity Fair) most importantly his 17 written books.
Got lucky in late 2007 acquiring god Is Not Great # 9 from the first 1000 copies (hardcover) signed by the great man himself, that book stays with me till the end of my days, then I’ll pass it on to my son and so on.
Nice try ,as usual revisionist history ,and as atheists do, completely misrepresenting so many things they talk about to soothe they're conscience while routinely violating it, and prop up they're pride and arrogance .
Secular humanist atheist history compared to "religious " history in terms of death, murder,genocide ,chaos,lies,crime of all sorts and nature,crimes against humanity,greed,deception ,and overall dismissiveness of the overall plight ,truth,and well being of humanity is like comparing the size of the universe to our planet,and still doesn't capture the difference between the carnage and devastation left by atheists after they've licked they're chops when they're through,you people have a voracious irresistible gluttonous appetite for ignorance and pride as you goose step march and clap to your god and king....
yourselves and c.h.
I already did yt removed it
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“Not apologising enough”
“I’ll pass it on to my son”
Oh the irony. Sorry to break it to you buddy but history and the current cancel culture, not to mention the current left wing THOUGHT POLICE clearly demonstrates that there is no indoctrination and no HATRED quite like so called “LEFT WING LIBERAL, ATHEISTIC LOVE”.
The fact is that militant atheism, that is fatalism and epistemological nihilism is a CULT MOVEMENT hidden behind the cloak of “rationality” and scientism and materialism of the gaps fallacies, that constantly uses anti religious Soviet hate propaganda left over from the Cold War. That is history revisionism and dishonest memes and buzz words to mock, badger and demonise anyone who challenges its myths and metaphysical presuppositions. It’s no different to debating a recruiter from the church of Scientology who just won’t leave you alone!!
Furthermore, the fact is that demonising religious expression, that is demonising your political opponents by pretending that they are all a massive “PROBLEM” who prey upon humanity, is an ancient propaganda tool that’s been used by everyone from medieval dictators, to serial killers to the Soviet Unions propaganda machine.
“Death is the solution to all problems, no man no problem.” - [Joseph Stalin].
The fact is that when you lie, and stereotype religious expression, and straw man and malign Christ you are not raging against the MACHINE, you’re raging FOR THE MACHINE.
The survivors of the Soviet Gulags reported that as they were being tortured by Stalin’s guards, the atheistic guards could be heard saying…
“There is no God, no heaven, and we may do as we wish”.
Which is obviously true if atheism is true. So like Ted Bundy they were just being “logically” consistent with this strictly reductive, causally closed, atheistic, nihilistic fan fiction!!
The fact is that the theme song on the way to HELL is…
“I DID IT MY WAY!!!!”
A true visionary and speaker of evidenced based truth.
great edit.
I admire the rabbi for doing these debates and being gracious in defeat.
How much I miss this guy and wish he were here now giving his opinions on all the craziness that’s happening every day⚛️
I've never even heard of this guy. But I love him.
You have A LOT of catching up to do, my friend 🙂
I miss Hitch.
You NEVER know what the religious will make up next. Don't they EVER get tired of lying? Can they not even follow their "deeply-held objective absolute morality" enough to not lie all the time?
kerwinbrown4180 WROTE "God is natural."
I replied "Which one? There are thousands."
What followed was the typical deflect/distract nonsense that people try
when they have no answer and are unwilling to admit it.
“There are thousands”
NOPE!! They all
fundamentally share a transcendental outlook and a belief in a prime reality. Your argument is also a self own on multiple levels.
Look up [Appeal to Neutrality Fallacy] colloquially known as the [Pretended Neutrality Fallacy]. Sorry but the fallacious argument that there are 3000 different flavours of religious expression therefore atheism is “True” is self refuting. There are lots of different views regarding the fundamental nature of reality therefore one particular flavour.. atheism/fatalism and epistemological nihilism is “True” by default is a self own on multiple levels!!
The irony and the absurdity is that atheism, that is fatalism and epistemological nihilism would simply be nothing more substantive than the 3001st flavour? And a very bland and depressing flavour of reality at that which is why militant atheism is so UNPOPULAR and has a reputation for being SMUG, tedious and inevitably leads to fatalism, epistemological nihilism and sui.tidal ideation!! Especially if you are intellectually honest and live it out consistently.
Sorry to break it to you buddy but the fundamental nature of [MIND/CONSCIOUSNESS/FREEWILL/THE ACTUAL/THE ONE/MONOTHEISM] says exactly one thing and one thing only!!
It isn’t a “claim” buddy, its just a [single position on a single issue]. I just simply “lack a belief” that we are all nothing more substantive than ULTIMATELY MEANINGLESS, HOLLOW AND SOULLESS APES WHO SHARE HALF THEIR DNA WITH A POTATO - right? That’s your position LOL!! So the burden of proof on you. I’ll wait!!
Moreover, the fact is that a strictly reductive materialism, atheism or philosophical naturalism inevitably leads to fatalism and epistemological nihilism and SUI TIDAL ideation. Especially if you are intellectually honest enough to live it out consistently. Which you clearly aren’t!
I just simply hold a [position of disbelief] with regards to the claim that we are all nothing more substantive than overgrown amoebas with illusions of grandeur. By contrast if you reject metaphysics and a transcendental outlook you actually have no choice but to believe that we are all just ultimately meaningless, hollow and soulless overgrown amoebas with illusions of grandeur and that your “BRAIN” and “RATIONAL” thinking came from unguided, blind, mindless, ultimately meaningless, chance and coincidence - Yes?
And you actually trust it - right? Exactly!!
Glad we cleared that one up!!
I mean, everyone has a right to believe what they want and everyone including theists have a right to find it totally ridiculous, totally fatalistic totally nihilistic and totally self refuting!!
Been a fan of Christopher fox many years and I've learned a lot from the content of his work.
We teach our children about Santa Claus till they're old enough to know the truth. And then we bait and switch them into believing in Jesus. I mean, think about it, there's very little difference between Santa Claus and Jesus as far as kids are concerned: Santa brings them presents, Jesus brings them heaven. All you have to do is believe. LOL
There is footage of Hitch I haven't seen before in yjis video. Well done! Thanks.
It bothers me greatly, that I can hit on "like" only once ......
“I can hit on “like” only once”
Oh the irony!! That’s your CULTISH tendencies showing. The CULT of Hitchens is beyond ironic and absurd!!
I rest my case!!
"Since man's mind is his basic tool of survival , his means of gaining knowledge to guide his actions---the basic condition he requires is the freedom to think and to act according to his rational judgment."
-Ayn Rand-
After extracting DNA from the samples, Wolfe used the genetic codes of four different genes to determine how the various species are related to one another.
He then used a process called ancestral state reconstruction to show that the mushrooms have switched from being decomposers to being symbiotic with trees only once in their evolutionary history.
Once the mushrooms switched to this new symbiotic lifestyle, they didn't go back to their free-living past.
Ultimately, Pringle said, the paper highlights one reason she finds such symbiotic partnerships "intrinsically interesting" -- for all their apparent benefits, the cost can be high.
"I think the really interesting thing is this idea that once you become symbiotic, some of your machinery is lost," she said. "It seems like a dead end in some ways -- you have to make this change to enter this niche, but once you're there, you can't go back -- you've lost the capacity to be free-living."
I loved Hitchens. God bless him 😂
Attacking atheists as immoral - the oldest trick in the book!
Agreed. Atheists choose to be moral people. Christians are only moral when they think God is looking.
Here is a good rule of thumb, do not take metaphors and figures of speech literally or you will be very confused.
@@prestonbacchus4204 can you be more specific?
@@todaystheday8 Yes, endlessly. The folks who wrote it were like Navaho code talkers. We know that nothing supernatural actually happens either now or in the past so we can surmise that anything written that sounds physically impossible or improbable is not intended to be taken literally. Did Peter really whip out a sword and cut a man's ear off and then the ear was miraculously restored by Jesus? No, that is just a metaphor, a figure of speech. The high priest's servant came to arrest Jesus on orders from the high priest. Peter angrily challenged the basis for the arrest, really laid into the servant, "bit his ear off", so to speak. And because he knew that the servant was just following orders, Jesus intervened , forgave and comforted the man, "healing" his ear that had been cut off by Peter's sword of truth. Get it?^
I know I am not going to live forever and neither are you, but until my furlough here on earth is revoked, I shall elbow aside the established pieties and raise my 🥃 tumbler of Johnnie Walker Black in honor of the brilliant oratory and intellect that was Christopher Hitchens, the world is indeed a poorer place without Hitchens and I sorely miss that man, his legacy ensures his immortality. 💐
Blasphemy! A true Atheist drinks a single-malt!
Miss this man every single day.
10:34 for those wondering this is a debate featuring Hitchens and Hitchens. (The brothers, Peter and Christopher, debate the war in Iraq and some version of; Christianity vs atheism or the God debate) the thing to note about the clip, is that annoying voice that is drowned out by the applause is actually the “mediator” and not the other interlocutor, Peter. While I do agree an unbiased host is not necessary, the fervor of the follow-up is just one of the many demonstrations of a lack of professionalism, a genuine commitment to discovering truth through formal debate and the utility of changing of minds by means of logic, reason and argumentation. and the actions of the mediator end up taking away from a truly incredible debate….ok a harrowing beating laid down by Christopher onto Peter, leading to what is most commonly know as a BF or a grown man tantrum. Though as embarrassing as that may have been for Peter, the host ended up being the speaker you would have rather never heard.
A bunch of shepherds from.the bronze age nailed it but humanities greatest minds are all wrong
You should have added a "/S" ... for the slow ones.
(thumbs up)
@@TheTerminator-2 huh?
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"/S" is computer-speak for "sarcasm"
I’ve said all along the NEAR death isn’t actual death and therefore doesn’t count.
It's a well known medical fact that an oxygen starved brain hallucinates.
treating dinesh d'souza like an intellectual... not a great place to start.
he's a grifter of the highest order.
Hitch had a way of disarming his opponent and completely ridiculing them at the same time. It was masterful.
Damn, I miss this intellectual.
Man, he could speak.
Mr hitchins such a great speaker and greatly missed. he would not be long with some of these religious website speakers.
My own family were Presbyterian Scots heritage. Regular churchgoers. The kept their word and raised us in that faith. For some reason or other, although they tried their best, their faith and beliefs were never to make any sence to be. I dont believe in any of it and have no feel for the alleged reality of something existing that was fundamentaly man made. If on occasions like watching TV programs, this one here as an example, have me feeling decidedly uncomfortable. Its much like believing that a Magicians trick are indeed real rather than lllusionery.
I died for 2mins 38secs on 3rd August 1996! I 'saw' My Grandfather (couldn't tell you which one) in an almost grey environment! This may have been the drugs the Doctors put in me or just memories of great times with them! Either way it was a 'miracle'...Was it bollocks a 'miracle'! The 'miracle' were the highly trained surgeons who saved my life & because of their expertise & incredible training is what saved my life! Live life to the fullest.......it's the only one you will have....
The rabbi makes great argruments for Christianity. How strange.
To all those who have a personal relationship with god:
What is god's favorite color?
Oh the irony!! There is no spite and NO HATRED quite like so called “freethinking” left wing, atheistic “liberal” love!!
@@georgedoyle2487Nice, so what’s your position on conservative racism and refusing to act on gun violence against school kids or limiting women’s rights over her own body or deporting families for having the audacity of wanting to escape the drug war perpetrated by America?
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SMOKESCREEN!!
@@Jcs57
“What’s your position”
Firstly, im British so as a nation we don’t even agree with having guns. Secondly, Ive never voted conservative in my life. Thirdly, you don’t have to be religious or a man to be pro life - right? This is just an atheistic, nihilistic fan fiction and a trope constantly used by aggressive pro choice activists!!
The pro life position is actually mainly led by women and even atheists recognise the irrationality of the so called “PRO CHOICE” position as it is clearly a slippery slope to infanticide - yes?
I mean, even Christopher Hitchens didn’t agree with abortion and he’s a materialist and a notorious atheist - yes? Try again!! Also look up the appeal to hypocrisy fallacy and appeal to moral outrage fallacy.
“Just as no human being of average moral capacity could be indifferent to the sight of a woman being kicked in the stomach, so nobody could fail to be far more outraged if the woman in question were pregnant. Embryology confirms morality.” (Christopher Hitchens).
@@georgedoyle2487 We get it; you can’t answer the question.
It's amazing that people go to church on Sunday!..............wasn't that 'gods' day off! No wonder prayers aren't answered!...........
And they say the religious are closed minded..
We can honor Hitch's memory and take on the mantle using Street Epistemology
It just saddens me he ended up entrenched in theologically driven position with his support of the war in Iraq. He did a lot of good but that was a shame.
I just liked this video, and I was the 666th person to do so. 👌😆
Words like unbelievably lame and beyond ironic come to mind.
CRINGE ATHEISM in full effect!!
@georgedoyle2487 aww poor lad. Cry into your hym sheet.
@@SteCoughlan
Aww listening to easily triggered militant atheists proselytising about ultimate “TRUTH” and “VALUE” whilst subscribing to the belief that we are all nothing more substantive than ULTIMATELY MEANINGLESS, HOLLOW AND SOULLESS APES WHO SHARE HALF THEIR DNA WITH A POTATO IS PRICELESS!
Moreover, listening to strictly reductive materialists, atheists or philosophical naturalists appealing to metaphysical presuppositions such as “TRUTH” and “VALUE” whilst subscribing to the belief that we are all nothing more substantive than ultimately meaningless HOLLOW AND SOULLESS, OVERGROWN AMOEBAS WITH ILLUSIONS OF GRANDEUR is as entertaining as watching someone trying to thrash the front of his car with the branch of a tree in order to BEAT IT INTO SUBMISSION!
It's very Monty Python like at times and very Basil Fawlty like at times! But without the comedy value.
CRINGE ATHEISM in full effect!!
@@SteCoughlan
This is brilliant!! Cry into your Hitchhikers guard to the ultimately meaningless, hollow and soulless ape who shares half their DNA with a potato!!
@@SteCoughlan *
This is brilliant!! Cry into your Hitchhikers guard to the ultimately meaningless, hollow and soulless ape who shares half their DNA with a potato!!
It is entertaining and comical, but....
Religious people keep the cookie industry going, for they still leave cookies and milk out for Santa even after the kids grow up and leave home.
Actually Santa Claus was a real person.
Brother, please enable an AI Hitch. Though you do not agree.
I used to love listening to all this egotistical crap. Now I happily believe in God. My life changed for the better when I started to believe. The trouble is God to me is a natural state of being, a truer reflection of the state we were all once in before this suffocating culture arose. Scapegoating God or Satan for that matter is narcissism. Take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming external forces for the way you feel inside.
Yeah, you don't have to actually make any decisions once you give up your identity.
Miss hitch !!!
The essential difference: For theists, reason is primary and matter secondary, while atheists reverse the order so that reason (“ratio” - especially logic) becomes a secondary random product of brain evolution. (Paradoxically, they nevertheless trust it and even see themselves as “rationalists” … 😆).
So theists are true rationalists because for them reason (the Logos of God) is primary and matter is secondary.
Actually, logic and mathematics are prior to matter. This is seen in the simple fact that mathematics and, more generally, the immaterial laws of logic can only be thought of consistently as being valid before, in, after - and hence indeed independently of every material world.
For example, as Leibniz wrote in a note of 1677: "It is true, and even necessary, that the circle is the largest isoperimetric figure, even if no circle ever existed in reality. And even if neither I nor you nor any other human being ever existed."
Likewise, the Euclidean prime number theorem or the fundamental theorem of algebra, for example, cannot be thought of in any other way than being unconditionally valid in every conceivable material world.
Since there are spaceless and timeless, i.e. immaterial and eternal truths, such as the laws of logic and mathematics, there must be something that constitutes their eternal being. According to Leibniz, this 'something' is the Logos God.
Obviously, this is not the rediculous inner-worldly "God" that some new atheists caricature (and rightly reject), but a God compatible with the "Logos" who, according to the Evangelist John, "was in the beginning" - Eν αρχη ην o λoγoς [John 1-1].
Every rational argument, whether theistic or atheistic, requires logic and that is exactly how both testify to the Logos. The first consistently, the second obviously not 🤗
That's one of the silliest mishmashes of pseudo-logic I've ever partially read.
hitchens wrote a book,God is not great,
That's exactly the way I feel about this overhyped atheist
At least we have evidence that there was Hitchens.
Can’t say that about any god…
Hitchens didnt get the NDE.
He’s taking down a misinterpretation of something, his doing so doesn’t make those who follow it any better off. It’s very easy to take literal interpretations apart, and quite another thing to tend to the question of consciousness.
Anyone contending that consciousness is temporal is in the same place as a literalist believer.
No, we contend with reality. Gods only exist in your brain and your linguistic sophistry.
So, you're stating a clear untruth and then trying to shame people into believing it? Where, oh where have I seen that before?
I love his style - but aren't you weary, in these compilations, of not being allowed to hear the *responses* to his pronouncements? Presented with them in this 'airbrushed' form, I feel rather as though I'm a student in 1966, listening to aphorisms from Mao's *Little Red Book:* I'm sure most of them are not only beautiful but profound - but to deny full voice to the other side is a calamitous flaw. Pretty sure Hitchens, himself, would be irritated that so many TH-camrs, in crowing worship of "The Hitch," fail even to attempt to ingest alternative points of view. That is certainly not why Hitchens attended so many debates; on the contrary, he enjoyed the cut and thrust of well-articulated argument.
From the "we're right, and you're dumb" frame of mind to believing anything (everything declared by, say, Vladimir Putin - or, worse, let's take "plain-speaking" Donald Trump) is really not such a great leap - as my highly intelligent but, frankly, way too credulous, Dutch cousin has demonstrated time and again*
*[one year he declared an increased parental enthusiasm for natural medicine and herbal cures which, I'm first to acknowledge, seem to have done him and his family no harm at all (and I don't doubt there is a growing body of evidence that largely corporate-funded "clinical trials" have indeed tended to introduce cognitive if not downright fraudulent bias into the 'scientific' development and marketing of increasingly expensive drugs, eg. the supposedly "safe" opioids now plaguing North America); but, by the time we'd all fully emerged from CoViD lockdowns and anti-vax demos, he was now asserting Zelenskiy (his Jewish heritage notwithstanding - alongside a goodly proportion of Ukraine's parliament, the Verkhovna Rada) to be part of some international Nazi conspiracy against the formerly socialist (now Neo-Stalinist) Russian motherland - albeit not quite of that mythical 'multi-dimensional blood-drinking Pharonic or Aztec paedophile lizard bloodline,' once so popular with conspiracy theorists just after the turn of the Millennium.]
I think GK Chesterton was credited with pointing out that a singular problem with loss of faith is the risk that people who believe *nothing* soon become prone to believe *anything.* I don't personally share his pessimism: I want to be exposed to all argument; to consider each as potentially true for at least as long as it takes to be rationally discredited; and I live in hope that fellow human beings would be similarly unafraid of ever exploring alternative viewpoint.
From the point of view of Hitchens - and even Dawkins, still (just about) - it is vital for rationalists always at least to *listen* to counter-argument; to entertain all reasonably well articulated ideas with a mind open enough to be prepared to change.
Links are in the description for the full debates. This video (and channel) isn’t intended to give those people a platform (Frank Turek and the others probably still out there talking nonsense). I’m focusing in on the arguments themselves and hoping to help people fine tune their own thinking and understanding. It’s not even about Hitch. Although there’s really no one better, hence Hitch.
God is love, and God is the natural world. God is a verb--loving. We are godly when we love, which includes being inclusive, tolerant, non-judgmental, foregiving, compassionate, etc. Love and nature are God, and heaven and/or hell is now in this lifetime. Religion is something else reflecting the fear that drives much of human nature.
(Continued) I guess the word "God" is only needed for our own comfort, but it's probably helpful to get rid of the word and just be loving, compassionate, tolerant, inclusive, etc. to eliminate division of belief systems. But, alas, people want to turn God into a religion to create divison and assert power over the other.
2 miljon in a weekend 💪
He was intrinsically childish.
NDEs have since been justified😅
By believers in them I'm sure 😂
They have been explained scientifically by the effects of the brain shutting down. The fact that the brain powers up again and leaves the person with some interesting memories and impressions is just biology.
@@stephenbouchelle7706 You're lying to yourself. There is no scientific, medical, or conceivable naturalistic explanation for an indivudual's consciousness transiting sometimes hundreds of miles to witness conversations and participate in events outside of one's physical body--yet thatvis what has been verifiably recorded to have happened in hundreds of recorded instances.
Do some reading then get back to us. The 20th century ended nearly a quarter of a century ago!
@@James-ll3jb could you provide just one peer reviewed paper for our reading pleasure from an unbiased source that shows "verifiably recorded" accounts of NDE
@@James-ll3jbNo, they haven't since been justified. You're delusional
You can't Ban religion there is no way that you can ban religion
Historical actions of violence, separation, and any/all fear control mechanisms of religions are whats to become as the End of those religions as we know it.
Secular societies aren’t banning religions. Freedom of religion means everyone can choose and practice their own beliefs and/or non belief. Which also means no religion has preferential treatment under the law over any others. Hitch was warning potential lawmakers and activists to be careful of how the law is both ineffective towards AND could be used to incite religious extremism. He’s very obviously in favor of free speech and uses it to his advantage…and to the advantage of reason and evidence and the enlightenment and etc.
Hitch never said religion should banned. He said you are welcome to play with your toys as much as you want, but please keep them at home and don’t try to make others play with them.
There's no need. Eventually you will get tired of Christianity and switch to cargo-cultism or something equally stupid.
drivel-------manipulative drivel
That's an excellent description of religion, kudos to you.
@@wtmvm Thanks!
God is natural.
Which one?
There are thousands.
@@TheTerminator-2 Not really. The Ancient Egyptians claim God created himself and then created those other gods. The Hebrews disagreed and claimed God has always existed and called those created gods angels. The religious storytellers took liberties when retelling their stories.
@@kerwinbrown4180
Why do you think that non-reply answered my question?
There are billions of people who think you are full of crap. I am one of them.
SENT THE DUDE PACKING !!!!!!!!!!
@@TheTerminator-2 Yes, I answered your reply by exposing your lack of knowledge.
The investigation of God has been going on since humanity rose from the ground. I pointed out the line of reason of two different society. You have to do your own investigating.
God is, by definition, supernatural. And you’re right, there’s no evidence for a god of any kind, except in the minds of humans.
If you would like to accept Jesus as your Savior pray this aloud: "Lord Jesus, I repent of my sins and surrender my life. Wash me clean. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day for my Victory, I believe that in my heart and make confession with my mouth, that Jesus is my Savior and Lord."
Oh dear lord brother, you’re at the wrong end of the spectrum. Some questions if I may… Does this count as spell casting and does saying aloud really matter if you’re alone at the time? Is the conversion complete without baptism or are you suggesting just audible surrender is good enough?
@@todaystheday8 No, every thing said is NOT a spell. You could say that about any spoken word. Why do you apply these arguments only to Christianity? Surrendering your life to Christ is the beginning of the journey. Where it takes you is God's will for your life.
@@jeffreyluciana8711 You are welcome to submit yourself to the will of another being that you believe in, but I’d rather not be a slave, thank you.
hahahahahahahaha
Hitchens was NOT a serious thinker 😮
His work on Trotsky was complete BS and he came to admit it 30 years after the fact! I used to teach an informal logical fallacy class using just Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, and Dennett’s statements.
Here Hitch uses one o of his favorites, appeal to humor in order to dodge the facts of NDEs 😮
Appeal to mockery, appeals to verbosity, mob and snob appeals are other techniques Hitch employs in order to dodge engaging knockdown arguments for his position. One must be deeply ignorant to find his approach to knowledge adequate😮
There are legitimate arguments out there to be sure but Hitch doesn’t use them often and is such a weak thinker he may not be familiar with them.😮
For a better defense of atheism read J.L. Mackey or J.H. Sobel, Graham Oppy, or Antony Flew (before he converted to theism)😅
You just prove that even such intelligent person as Hitch can admit when he is wrong (after so many years )thanks for complementing The Hitch he deserves that
Sorry but judiasm was not the inventors of monotheism, Zoroaster was the state religion of Persia, It is Called Zoroastrianism,
When the persians swept across the land jews were taken as slaves and introduced to the one god claim's, They then changed their many gods into 1 god and all his offsiders became human characters in the torah.
You are correct, and Zoroaster was likely influenced by Hinduism as well. Still a funny joke though.
Monotheism may in fact be far, far older even than that. Although not nailed down with iron-clad certainty, there is a very strong and persuasive body of evidence that the pharaoh Akhenaten was introducing what we would recognise as monotheism as far back as 1400BCE, millennia before Zoroaster.
So if there is nothing after we are dead then why are we here in the first place wouldn't be better for us to never exist, and avoid all the shit that life hands you
Why should there be any reason?
I actually cover this in my philosophy video. Essentially you have a choice between nihilism, objectivism, and existentialism. You are describing one form of nihilism…that because there is no reward in heaven, life is meaningless. Objectivism says there is meaning out in the world and you just have to find it. Existentialism says you are the source of your own meaning and you just have to become your authentic self. But of course it’s a lot more complicated than that which is probably why I like Absurdism so much.
You’re presuming a “why”. Perhaps consider that it may only be a “how”.
@@todaystheday8 what about give-a-shit-ism? Also known as skepticism.