Corsa instrument cluster upgrade in the FLOODED 1965 Corvair Monza 110!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2023
- On today's video, we're refurbishing the Corsa instrument cluster that was graciously donated to us by Michael Trimmier. We show the process of breaking down the cluster, cleaning the gauges and refurbishing the cove surround. However...we're doing it in silver rather than the black the Corsa originally came with.
Make sure to watch until the very end of the video because there's an easter egg about a coming project for the car, one that I am SUPER excited about.
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Been a long time since we released a Corvair video, but I've been having TOO much fun just driving the car. Make sure to stay tuned till the end for a big teaser on what's coming soon for the FLOODED Corvair!
Sean
Fascinating, i had a Rover Sd1 that had a clock , found out it was affected by a film of nicotine by the previous owner , used swabbing and isopropyl and it freed up over time
Gotta love the sound of that Corvair engine going through the gears. A very unique sound.
Thank you, I love the sound as well...very European sports car-esque.
That silver looks great! I like the '65 Monza silver dashes much better than the black versions. When the previous owner put the Corsa dash in my '66 Monza, he removed the clock and installed a second cylinder head temp gauge. I assume he wanted to monitor head temp on each head individually, but he did not rig up a second sender. That picture looks like a MAF sensor, and if so I like where you are heading with that...
Sharp eyes, my friend!
It looks great. I just bought a second Corvair and am very happy with how much fun they are. Glad to see another Vair enthusiast enjoying them! The community for these cars is honestly one of the best communities to be in for classic cars as they are always supportive and welcoming. Keep enjoying the car and I'm excited to see more videos on it.
Congrats on the 2nd Vair, and thank you for the kind words. The Corvair community has been overwhelmingly kind and supportive, and hopefully I can give back a little bit.
That Manifold vacuum gauge was used primarily in the Turbocharged cars as a boost gauge. The cylinder temperature gauge goes up quite quickly if the fan belt is thrown off. If you have it overheat, there is a buzzer somewhere, (maybe in the gauge) which is a better notifier because you can't miss it. My Spyder would throw the belt when drag racing and it felt like you just got 15 more horsepower, but best to shut off the engine soon. I really enjoy your TH-cam videos.
Thank you! I'd like to have it somewhat work for vacuum and then perhaps boost down the line!
Sean. Great detail job. Thanks .. Enjoying the ride is best to keep working on it.
Thank you! It's hurting my heart to take the car apart for a month (or so), but it needs to get done.
I hope you realize that the speedo had its own calibration separate from the other 'Vairs and that it required a specific tire diameter to work properly. All '65 and later cars are driven off the left front(drivers side) wheel.
Silver is a nice color. When I did my cluster the wrinkle paint didn't wrinkle well anyways, so going a different direction works out.
Thanks, and I really like the look of the silver dash.
Bezel surrounds weren't black, to begin with, but bright chrome look with the crinkle black fascia. I don't mind you making the fascia silver. It should look pretty good:) The clock used a solenoid to pop the winder and the points get burned after a while. That is the main problem and the best fix is the quartz replacement. I used to fix the clocks myself for guys that wanted it the way the factory did it. Expensive and difficult to do though. Quartz is the better and cheaper route. Those red washers are insulators.
My Saturday morning coffee and Corvair video thank you !
Thank you!!
The finished product looks really nice. Good tape job on the panel: seems you have a lot of patience. The instruments themselves look great also.
Thank you!
I ❤️ Corvairs. They were an amazing product of advanced engineering. I am seeking a 67-69 110. The engine you did is key. Better than new. Never go back. lol.
What an absolute amazing job you did. I am ready to write checks. 🤣🤣
Thank you so much. What body style Corvair are you looking for?
@@AutoAnatomy 66 Monza 4 spd convertible. Powerglide second choice
That turned out great, glad it went to a good home. It was awesome meeting you guys and Helen!
Thanks again Michael!
Good job Sean……I still absolutely love this car
Thank you Shane!
Shawn, the tach in my '79 Suburban did a crazy thing. It would sweep the entire field and then go back to the correct reading. come to find out, a solder joint was not tight. I took the small PCB out, re-soldered all the solder joints, re-assembled the whole thing, and it worked perfectly.
It does work smoothly it just seems like it reads high. I need to put in another tach to verify it's working correctly.
OK, Sean, the main word I have for this video is OUTSTANDING! I do have quite a but of experience over the years with our "waterless wonders". I have no issue with changing the dash color, NONE of my Corvairs are painted in a stock color! The 65 Monza dashes were all silver, the 65 Corsa dashes were all wrinkle finish black, and a thin stripe around the fascia was left unpainted (that is, silver), but in 66, the whole dash was painted black. Did you repaint the glove box door and surround to get rid of the wrinkle finish to match? Also, whenever I have the "tunnel" under the car open to add wires, I ALWAYS put in extra wires for future use- electric fuel pump, cruise control, extra gauges, high-speed heater blower (need an extra wire for a relay to avoid melting the fan switch), etc. LEDs to replace the dim original bulbs is a good idea, but DO NOT use an LED for the Gen/Fan light- the load of the incandescent bulb is part of the circuit. I've got a few more things to say, but the wife is telling me to get off the computer, so Auf Weidersehen for now.
Thank you! The glove box door is also silver to match the dash. Next time I've got the cluster out I'll make sure the incandescent bulb is in the Gen/Fan circuit, thanks for the tip!
Hi Sean, I know the color is the same, but I was wondering about the wrinkle finish.
Best to mask the housing around the ground stud on both the interior and exterior surfaces before painting as the electronics are grounded through the housing.
Nice work!
Thank you!!
Great job on the dash! I was going to say if left in Monza configuration, unless overtly trying to keep it original, paint it black like the 66 - 69 because I think in that configuration it looks better (hides use/aging better, IMO). But, it is unique in this Corsa-guage configuration to be silver, so I think it looks great. Tip on upgrading the Monza dash if not doing a Corsa conversion: replace the outsized--and too prominent location--clock with a Stewart Warner tach. My recollection is that they make or made one that just happens to fit right in there and looks just about stock. Then, just find any location, under dash, etc, for a modern clock if that function is still important to you.
You may be already past this but... Since the 2 carb motors didn't have a cylinder head temp unit, I'm not sure they have a boss or detent for one? My memory is fuzzy on this, it's been 40 years and folks/Clarks, etc, may have a workaround now, but we didn't know of one - so we found out the hard way by d&t'ing where the 140 unit "would be" (but on a 110)--there was a "boss" of sorts there--to install the sending unit, of course ;) and, unbeknownst to us at the time, broke into the combustion chamber! The explanation later, don't recall the veracity, was that the 140 heads supposedly were a little bit thicker in that combustion chamber area, vs our 110's?.. So, about 300 mi into a 1000 mile road trip, compression blew that out and we lost power on exactly 1/2 the motor (the hole must've scavenged things enough to kill/mess-up vacuum enough to (effectively) lose compression on the whole cylinder bank! Still was able to limp it 100 miles (over a mountain!) to the next civilization--what a motor and car! A friendly local Corvair mechanic was about to tear everything down for a blown head gasket, is what we all thought happened--sure acted and sounded like, when he peered into the shrouding underneath and found the sending unit laying peacefully there! Just to get us underway (vacationing) he threaded a bolt up in there to get us back power, telling us "just don't run the heater the rest of your trip!" as the temporary bolt fix no doubt still seeped at least a little bit of gasses. When we got home we heliarc'd that hole shut and just said goodbye to the idea for the time being,.. and it turned out a 140 transplant ensued a few months later anyway. So, beware! We just may not have investigated the external parts of the 110 cylinder head enough for a better location, or unwittingly just drilled 1/4" too far, though we thought we measured everything 10x before--dumb s****--... but make doubly sure!!
Nice upgrade. Good color choice.
Thanks!
My 70 Challenger clock works like that. It will run for weeks or months and quit until it's taken out and cleaned.
Shockingly, it's still working (although it's running fast). I need to take it back out and see if I can adjust it to work a bit slower.
Great video Sean, the dash looks awesome! From Shaun in the uk..
Thank you Shaun!
I had a '66 Riviera that had the same clock problem, especially in the winter. My clock stopped, took it out gave it to the dealer to have repaired, installed it. A month later, the same problem. I stopped fooling with it!
I like the silver for your car.
Thank you, me too.
I know wiring harnesses aren't cheap, but by making your own, trouble shooting in the future will be a nightmare as the colors won't be the same as the wiring diagram. This is why my my Corvair is as close to factory, I can find the problems as know what parts to get.
I hear you, and if this car goes to another person in the future then I'll have a lot of paperwork that will need to go with it. If it were a rare model then I would feel obligated to keep it original.
Really nice and meticulous job with the instrument cluster. Hope you are able to get the tachometer working, as knowing the engine RPM is valuable.
Thank you, and the tachometer works fine...it just has a large sweep so it looks like you're turning a lot of RPM. I'd be interested in putting another tach in the car temporarily to compare the accuracy. May do that if I get bored!
The cluster looks great!
Are you going to put a turbo on that bad boy?
Thank you! No plan for turbo at the moment, but it's always a possibility!
Nice progress on the Corsair. How about a headliner?
It's coming, I promise! I've got a few things ahead of it in the queue but the interior will be getting addressed soon.
This is awesome to see the corsa dash in the monza! I did the same thing to my grandpas 65 PG, however the speedo isn’t working. Any ideas where I could start looking to fix that?
My first thought is the dust cap on the left front wheel. It's what drives the speedo cable and the drive mechanism is plastic.
If I couldn't get the clock to work, I'd either set it to 4:20 or add a different gauge (multifunction/fuel range, trip odometer, etc...)? ;-)
It's working well enough for now. I'll probably replace the (essentially) non-functional vacuum gauge with something else.
OK Sean, got my '69 model yesterday. Just looking at the parts and reading the instructions, yes, I'm one of those who actually read before anything else, I saw the assembly phase just shows black color for the entire engine, starter included. does the engine have any colors other than black? Thank' so much. I'm like you, I build a vehicle for me, not everyone else. You'd love my current car. A Scion xB with blacked out wheel covers, diff grille, LED's thru out, HID head lights, even re-EQ'd the radio to match this model.
hey! Why a 4 day wait if the video is already done?
I almost always release videos on a Friday or Saturday, and want to make sure people have a chance to see the premiere. More of a courtesy than anything else
I’ve had two Corsas with the factory tach and to me your tach looks to read high compared to the RPM I am hearing. Mine were both 140hp.
I thought the teaser might be fuel injection, but was that an a/c compressor I spotted? Will have to look again.😎
As usual, great video……seeing you row those gears makes me really miss my Corsa. Maybe it’s time to revisit…👍🏼🍺
(Edit) OK, after freezing the teaser, I have no clue what that is!😜🤷🏼♂️but I am excited to find out…..😎
It sounds high to me as well, might need to temporarily install another tach to verify the RPM. The teaser is not AC, although with the temps being >95 lately that would be a welcome addition.
Great video, question i dont see your paint link for the painting you did, can you post what paint you used inside and out on gauges, thks
I'll get you the name/part # when I get home. Working at the hospital tonight
Hello Sir , Any news on the green paint part number or link thks,@@AutoAnatomy
Hey there this is a great video, thanks. Is there a way I can chat with you a little on the details you may not have during the video? I have a 67 automatic 110 converted to 140, with the 3 gage cluster, may want to go to 5 gage. If there is a better place to chat with you please share. Thanks
You can email me at autoanatomy@icloud.com
I like the silver dash bezel. Is that EFI i'm seeing ?
Thank you, and...maybe!
I've got an EM monza 900 convertible that is a whole lot of fun. I just came into a really really nice Spyder cluster. Was thinking about subbing out the boost gauge and head temp gauge for a voltage and exhaust temp gauge. Did you keep your mileage when you installed the speedo? I want to keep mine accurate (its got 46K) so I need to add about 10K to the Spyder. Can you swap out the tumblers?
Great vids.
I would think (legally), as long as the mileage is the same it shouldn't matter what gauge is physically used. You can remove the mileage wheels relatively easily with the cluster apart.
Do your dash however you want it. It's your car, and it's not a Corsa anyway.
That clock probably just needs cleaning and lubing. I restore clocks.
You're probably right. I cleaned up another one and it's working well just runs fast. I'd love to send you a clock to see if it could be restored, how can I get in touch with you?
@@AutoAnatomy Sorry I just saw this! I would love to but I'm like a year behind at the mo due to high work load! It seems that nobody want's to do this stuff anymore. On top of this I have at least twenty of my own clocks to do plus a few auto gauges and three cars to restore. My projects are going to outlive me! I should really start a TH-cam channel! 😀
It's better to have a daily driver vs a trailer queen.
Amen!