How To Get Ahead of 99% of Drummers
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How To Get Ahead of 99% of Drummers
As drummers, we have to go DEEP on the drumming topics in our drumming practice time. Enough of the surface drum learning. Lets dedicate ourselves to going deep on the drumming topics we need to work on.
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Bruce Lee - "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear one who has practiced one kick 10,000 times"
Meanwhile the kids today expect to see results just because they purchased a drum kit
I think I'm going to practice singles between the bass drum and hands
Fear the man with 1 rifle.
@@miker5233 I’ve been working on that lately. Such a simple concept, but sooo hard to pull off cleanly.
@@VeloVios why'd you have to make it about hating kids?
Omg I’m so guilty of this, half learning and skill or concept , moving on and rarely implementing in a live setting . Thank you great lesson !
Priming the water pump is a great analogy!
Thank you - this concept (formerly known as your musicality) is so needed in this age of social media. Find your passionate core, master it, and learn to apply it in every musical situation. Music should be the motivation. Not an abundance of tricks & licks 🙏🏻🤩
This is exactly what I needed to hear today. My dad whos a guitarist is from a generation before the internet is always marveling how 'quickly i learn something' yet set us in the same room to play and its clear im the inferior player! Years of experience, muscle memory doesnt come from a few youtube tutorials. Starting to see the connection between surface learning, imposter syndrome, and why my dad's pre-internet method was slower, but it produces better results.
100% true! I started to learn the Purdy shuffle, and it took me almost 2 years EVERY DAY, to play it flawless. Of course variations from it, like Rosanna, and John Bonhams Half time shuffle ( Fool in the Rain) Last one stil not like John...maybe 70% It's so awesome learning something witch I thought I NEVER able to learn that. Now it's so easy and natural to play. Practice, practice and practice. Split the drum parts up, and combine the parts but only AFTER you can play that part flawless (muscle memory)
Thank you for shedding some much needed light on this topic. It's the exact reason I turned off notifications to some of the drum channels I follow, as they put out hordes of content to the point where you're bombarded with so much material, you're actually better off without any of it.
There is a lot of wisdom here. I’m a trumpet player and am going to take this lesson to heart with my future practicing. Thanks for the great content!
I like the “priming the pump” analogy ….makes sense 👍🏼
i made this expirience in the last 6 month... one dasy i choosed to practice only one think. it is so amazing how my playing got better espacially at all the staff that i did not practice...
This is exactly what makes a great drummer.
I've understood this in the positive and negative sense. It's just as important to consider what you will play, as what you won't play.
It's like clothing. You wear what is you.
I'm so aware that this specific topic is a huge obstacle for me and I keep forgetting it. Thank you for reminding me!
Well, you're in good company then 🤘🏻
Great video and supreme advice Kratos! Thanks for all of the love and motivation. Rock on 🤘🔥🤘
Excellent topic. Well done. Thanks so much.
Hey Stephen I started watching your videos and their really helpful. Thanks a lot and keep drumming🥁
Great advise! Thank you very much!
Great content as always! You are one of the reasons I became an educator and am opening a drum school in January. Keep it up brother. Merry Christmas!
Great words! So important to really take the time to appreciate and absorb every technique, topic, and concept in drumming to become a better musician! I definitely do that all the time when I'm learning something new in any instrument!
Only way forward!
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Excellent advice, thank you very much Sir.
You’re a brilliant teacher Stephen!
So true Stephen, I recently posted these drum fill series in 6/8 with one pattern (and a small variation) on my yt channel. The journey to learn this myself was exactly as you mentioned. 🙏🏽
I was fortunate enough to take a lesson from Roy Burns about when his book (great concept in the book) One Surface Learning came out.
Very generous guy and a great teacher, author and player.
Add all the lessons on TH-cam this is the most valuable one you just hit the nail right on the head that's the secret to getting good that's the difference between teaching and wisdom
Agreed. Woodshedding is super important.
This is brilliant. Not just for drumming, but for life. I was just thinking about this yesterday. With ADD, I know a little about a lot of things. With drumming, I do what you said… watch, but don’t do. My thing of focus is going to be Moeller Two-strokes to improve 16th note riding on the hi-hat.
Well that was heart felt and inspirational 👊🏽
Trying to focus on the stuff that i can grasp. This really encourages me. Thanks a lot
You bet...don't worry, I have to remind myself of this weekly too 🤘🏻
Good talk! Thanks for the encouragement! I need to do this with the Texas Shuffle.
This advice is so simple, super hard to execute but worth gold if you follow it. Awesome of you to include a free 30 day example of what you’re talking about. A recent one I did was a month of hi hat chicks: they have taken leaps forward since then and I still got it - because I went deep enough. Hi hat chicks might seem like a basic technique but there is a lot of nuance to it.
Thank you so much i’ve been playing for six years and I feel like I’ve been doing something wrong. I haven’t made much progress because i’ve been constantly trying to learn different things and leaving the other stuff behind.
Thank you Stephen, I will apply this to my bass practice
I needed to hear this.
What a timing ! Your video is so on point with what I am struggling to do right now during my practice time... Thank you so much for these words, I needed them !! I'll go back to my drumkit to master my feet ostinatos instead of moving onto something else while feeling frustrated ! Cheers Stephen ! 🤘
I was thinking the same, and typically begin practice sessions w/ostinato patterns, for about (only) 10-15 min then move on to other things; mostly playing along to songs.
@@akdrumster THIS ! calling it a day and then playing along a song... An everyday struggle !
Remarkable presentation of a problem only too common to all instrumentalists, and its solution ! Thank you !!! [ If I may... to support your presentation... If there is one thing that, to me, clearly shows in the playing of Emmanuelle Caplette (among others of course), it is exactly what you 'prescribe' here. Physical preparation, clear mental picture, Focus, CONSISTENCY, patience, intense listening, and what else. ] Once again, thank you !!!
Good stuff, thanks.
Not trying to brag on myself here, but ADHD and hyper fixation has definitely helped me with what you’re talking about here.
Thanks for that one, Stephen ! Right on MY issue, I get scattered from New York Mozambique to Texas Shuffles to Bossa Novas. and that's only Tuesday ! What I am playing on gigs is much narrower. That Blues-R&B base should be my first Targeted Area. Now I can say, "Obviously!!" Thanks for making it Simpler for me.
I had a music theory teacher that used a similar analogy to this "deep-dive" analogy. He explained it as scuba diving vs. snorkeling. With snorkeling, you'll see alot more, but it's not as clear as when you're up close. With scuba diving, you're dealing with a smaller amount of "stuff" but seeing it in much greater detail.
Another quote from another one of my teachers (Billy Hart). Billy said, "It's not about how many different things you can play. What's more important is how many different ways you can play one thing."
Love me some Billy Hart. Incredible quote. Thank you for sharing that
I struggle with this. This video is literally a big slap in the face that I needed. THANK YOU FOR SLAPPING ME IN THE FACE, STEPHEN!
I'm available anytime you need me 😂
I started learning a couple months ago. TH-cam/the internet is great for a beginner. However, I found myself learning something and as soon as I could kinda play it moving on to learning something else. I was starting to get overwhelmed and feeling like this is too hard. Then about a week ago I just went back to playing a simple beat and fills over and over again. Then I found myself really enjoying it. I felt like I was a drummer for the first time!
This is 100% true. I've been playing for 20 years, learned most of my rudiments, did the whole training thing, so much so that I couldn't sleep with a clock on the wall because it reminded me of my metronome. I did it to the point of disgusting myself and stopped practicing for 5 years, which where the worst ones of my life pretty much. Today I went early on to band practice and simply put a metronome at 100 and did some stick control stuff, then some jazz exercises. Everyone said how much better I sounded, how my timing was more solid, my tone, everything - I felt like I was being myself on the drums for the first time in 5 years again! Most top pros I know from attending clinics over the years have this 1 hour or so routine everyday, and it's basic stuff. Put the metronome on the floor tom and play the snare, no wires, so quietly you can make it without amplifying the click. Just control. The effect is WILD :O
I fixed this the same way I push through plateaus at the gym. Plan out a regiment or specific aspect for an entire month and map out the practice sessions, usually 3 times a week. Also, finding songs outside my comfort zone and playing it for the month til I can do it without thinking.
This is a life lesson - it definitely applies to my work skills too. Master stuff, not just know it
The "priming the pump" analogy was perfect
Such a great video and advice in general. Any player, myself included, will see it if they truly analyzed their playing
You found the ideal dirty water pump for that metaphor
Great advice!
You don't want to know how much time I spent practicing spang-a-lang for exemple. Doing the same thing over and over again do sometime makes me wonder why am I doing this with my time but the day I sat at my kit and suddenly what I've practiced for so long feels like I've done it my whole life. I have to say that personally, any other practice method has gave me that same amount of motivation and joy to keep me doing what I love.
Interesting piece, resonating. I’ve been teaching myself drumming for a few months, initially aiming to nail basics before getting a tutor. I come from saxophone playing where I found progression by being really nerdy about things like tonguing, transitions from one note to another, embouchure changes and so forth. I’m starting to find the same nerdiness helping with the drums. I’ve spent a lot of time getting my weaker hand to feel controlled & with modulated power, a mirror of my strong hand. Now I’m building the limb independence using simple rhythms like paradiddles. Nerdy but it feels like I’m becoming integrated with the kit, ready to deliver patterns in time.
Nailing the basics is a tremendous foundation but takes foresight. This is tough in a society that wants instant gratification.
And a society with a short attention span.
If I understand you correctly. You don't need to know everything to the level of expertise, but to be really good at a few things. Sounds reasonable. As long as you can get things swinging in 4/4, then you've come a long way. Details come along the way, as I usually say. Things you start doing by chance and which then become a way of being recognized. Have been playing for about 40 years, so some fills and other things have come along the way. Drums are fun if you let them be. Happy New Year.
Once again, good advice Stephen. As I mentioned previously, I am always stealing stuff from your videos. I am 77 years old and now trying to learn techniques vs pounding away. I mostly play using traditional. I am been learning to use my thumb or first finger in controlling the bounce with single stroke rolls. Like you mention here, the first few minutes of sitting at the kit, I practice these techniques. Recently, i am working Paraditals {sP). It came to me to try and use bounce vs single stroke to play them. I don't play in any bands but I keep practicing in case a get the call from a couple I know. I call myself a " Bar room" drummer. Thats the music I mostly know how to drum to.
This is 100% percent accurate for me currently with the Gary Chesters New Breed book!
I play a few beats all the time, but as soon as I try something new and don’t practice it…it’s crap. Great lesson here
Great video! Even if you don't know what priming a pump is… 😜
Great video and great advice. Get the basics to a high level first, then move on. Forget that left foot ostinato against some inverted rudiment in the other limbs.
Play a simple 2 and 4 beat at a SLOW tempo without stopping for half an hour instead. When you can land on the click consistently, then try to land a little bit ahead or behind. I guarantee that this will be way more frustrating than some super fancy coordination exercise. Also way more useful.
I read somewhere about someone that heard Matt Chamberlain practice, and all he could hear was a 2 and 4 beat that didn't stop.
I agree with you 1000% 🥁⭐️
Extremely wise post. I have been working on different variations of the Prudy shuffle in my head and practicing it for about 3 or 4 years now. Why, because it resonated with me. I didn't chose it so i could play it as a trick to show my friends but because it musically moves me. It gets stuck in my head and it moves hips when I play it right. I hear the transition from verse to pre-chorus in Rosanna, or that walking line in the verse of Fool in the Rain. And of course Home at Last. This is music. When it calls to you, it's not work.
Excellent topic! I’ve been wondering what the answer is to the question a should I practice several things per practice or should I perfect one or two things per practice. Thank you very much.
You're more than welcome my friend
People want instant success and results and social media videos often give the impression that's possible but it's not. The only thing that breeds success is practice, practice and more practice. A good drummer will take even the most basic grooves and just play them for hours and probably never stop coming back to them their whole lives. And you can tell the difference between a well practiced drummer playing a simple groove and one that's just practiced a little even if they've both been playing years.
I honestly believe that it's beneficial for all musicians to stop listening and watching music related content for a period of time and to just rely on their internal sound and feel.
To me it's not a problem to interiorize the new stuff and add it in my drumming vocabulary, because I have DOC and what I play and listen stays with me 24h a day, I basically think about a beat like 10 hours a day, while doing other things, and play it with my arms and feet. In a few days, I have zillions of variations that I have mentally played hundreds of times. When I've done with aa lot of combinations, I shift a note somewhere of a quarter, or an eight, and I have a new beat. The problem is it takes a lot to learn new things, and also there's the limit of what your hands can play clean when you actually go recording
What level of player is this advice geared toward? I feel like, as a beginner, it may be more beneficial to cover a breadth of topics first to get a solid general understanding before refining a particular technique.
What do you think?
Thank you Stephen! I thought it was just me! LOL
Great video! There seems to be an issue with the link to the "30 Days to Better Doubles". TIA
And that is why Ringo Starr, Charlie Watts and Frank Beard are UNDER appreciated.
Its dynamics and accents over simple beats.
It's like language...we learn phrases and learn how to connect them to singular words to form free flowing sentences
Yes!
Baby steps.
If you get hung up on something you're listening to and trying to copy it and can't, leave it alone and go back to it later. Weeks, months or years later. It depends on the complexity.
Forty years ago the real world of drumming was drummers are a dime a dozen. To be better than a dime a dozen you need to master everything you think you have 'down' and perfect it to the point of recognizing you did it without even thinking about it. You all know what I'm talking about. If you know something challenging is coming up as you play (a speed bump as you will) it truly will be a speed bump in your play because you have anxiety grab you as you get nearer to having to play it. The only way to get passed that is to play it so many times it becomes automatic (without even thinking about it.)
I used to tell drumming friends of mine seeking tips that the only way past those situations is repeatability and repetition. Not 5 times, not 10 times; if it takes 2000 times or 50 times to repeat something over the course of months to hone that tone, stick hit location or stamina challenge, so be it. Don't trust your hands, speed, quickness and dexterity is relative... But your best friend playing drums is your ears. Train them to pick up on sound changes in your play. Rattle away on your hi-hat for 2-3 minutes in whatever rhythm and listen for sound variances. Work on zero sound variations opening and closing your hi-hat so that the whole time you're doing that routine it sounds exactly the same from start to finish.
A no-no is trying to play fast. Fast will come with time if it's meant to be. Smoothness is number 1. Being crisp, dynamic, consistent; ultra (very) important. If you're impressing yourself that's good but don't go out and buy yourself a cookie for accomplishing something. Take it in stride. Stay humble. #2 most important for new up and coming drummers is to remain humble. If you aren't there's guys like me who can slither onto a drum throne and make your life miserable embarrassing you in a 30 second flash that you'll never get over. lol
What are the examples of such "concepts" in drumming?
I am new to drums, but I avoid even listening to other drummers if my brain is full of drum concepts.
A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one. This is the full quote
“I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times.”
― Bruce Lee
Practice/play something until you sick of playing it. Then keep going back to it to keep your skill sharp!
"From ignorance to knowledge is a step from knowledge to competence a greater step "von Clauswitz
the video has been release 23 seconds ago and i'm here
What up!
It's called playing drums. Play is supposed to be fun. Just smile and be happy everyone! ♫♪♫
Maybe it's because I've been a drummer for 45 years now, but that Gadd flutter (which can be heard on 50 ways too btw), the Bonham triplets, the Peart ride pattern... they are not all that special, really. Never studied that "for hours", just doing it.
7:14 is the point of the video
So true :(
Use it or lose it. My website goes deep. Been at it since 1968.
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Strange...I just checked it and it worked for me. Make sure you are clicking the consent box, otherwise it won't submit. If it's still giving you issues, email help@stephensdrumshed.com and we'll get you the program my friend!
Man i am 31 yearsold and i am considering my long term dream of buying drums and start banging but knowing my self i am so incosistent any advice? Ty man
Sure, get with a solid teacher or a solid online program. Your first goal is to develop the habit of practicing. So commit to 15 minutes a day for 2-3 weeks. Once you've done that, slowly start to increase your practice time. Work on the same material every day. Most of my students are your age and older these days. I think it's a great idea
Thanks man gl!@@StephenTaylorDrums
I can't stop, the same mind reading machine he's using can also put thoughts in my head, he's just not telling you all that, I've never been saying these things in my life
nice analogy.... Amateurs practice till they get it right; professionals practice till they can't get it wrong. right?
Why is your snare so low?
100% guilty of only scratching the surface
So, so true. My teacher is awesome. Berkeley trained, great guy, but not the greatest when it comes to teaching applicability. Almost everything we do is mechanical... except for the one song he gives me every week, which rarely includes any of the technique we're practicing. And he assigns me way too much, like 10 different technique oriented topics a week. Man this video hit home.
This makes a ridiculous amount of sense to me. I have definitely NOT applied this in decades of musicianship. Like trills on violin. How did they get so good at those?? They probably spent months and months working on just that. Or they're really lucky. But probably the work thing.
The sweet spot seems to be 16-20 hours a week for five years and then 8-10 hours a day for several months.
You're not wrong mate. Guilty as charged!
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"Jack of all trades is a master of none, but is still better than a master of one"
I've never agreed with this quote. Totally a personal opinion on that though
The goal shouldn't be doing it "better than anyone", it should be doing it better than you did yesterday.
Good video. The number one thing about playing drums isn't skill or chops, but simply "sounding good". Which means you have new(er) drumheads and 80/20 bronze cymbals with your kit, and know how to properly tune your drums. And playing a consistent, steady beat. Otherwise known as "in the pocket". Do that, and people will think you are an "awesome" drummer because you will "sound" great. That's what it is all about. (Your cymbals generally are more important than your drums to "sounding good"). it's not about your fills or how fast you can play, but how "consistent" you play your instrument. And with drums, that's a rock solid steady beat.
As a bassist for 33 years my only message to drummers is STOP PLAYING FILLS!!!
I'm very good at playing my guitar faster and getting ahead of any drummer I play with....😂
Let's not do a deep dive ever again, and while we're at it, let's not unpack anything either.
Sounds good fred.
And the money is????
Too many videos about playing the paraquaddleslipsoddle etc at great speed and acquiring a useless lick you can hardly ever use.
99% of drumming in a band os straight up time keeping period. If you go off on an internet drumming tear you'll be out of a band.