EZ for you to say when you get to play the game for 140 hours every 2 weeks.. not everyone wanted this type of change except the pros. bikes is going to lose ALOT of casual players and the game will slowly die off..
@@SwazeyThaGod im a big casual who only has about 30 hours played at this point. these bikes are way better for me because the skill gap is learning proper throttle control and how to actually ride and not just hold rt and lean back
I feel like there's always been seat bounce if you sit up the jump face then stand at the top of the jump you definitely can get a bit more launch off the face.
Ive been playing these new OEMs now for about 5 hours and now im actually enjoying mxbikes more than i was in b18. Leaning forwards helps a ton!! Throttle control is also soooo much better. Also cutting down in supercross is actually insanely fun. I think these new OEMs just need to be givin a chance since we are so used to the other bikes.
same, at first i didnt like it but thats prob mostly because i was used to the old where you have unrealisticly god like grip. but now the more i play the more i enjoy this update then the old, this update gives a realistic feeling when you cant go in a corner at 100mph and somehow have f1 grip the whole turn like u could before. Like racing irl you drive on dirt you pretty much never have grip.....like its dirt it moves under ur wheel at all time its not a solid ground ur not supposed to have f1 grip on dirt. I enjoy this update more and more.
Coming from MX sim where you ALWAYS want to sit a lean forward on the turn, I was doing that in MX bikes and just washing constantly. It wasn't until I payed attention to Troys controller input and realized he was back leaning on the turns that I was able to get the turns right. On these OEM 19s the lean forward tech coming back feels so right. I've got maybe 400 hours in MX sim and 30 in MX bikes
I love that u can come in hot slide into corner and then cut down on throttle. Feels great and creates cool battles you didn't have before. I feel like inside lines are going to be more useful now instead of just allways railing outside right behind someone
coming to this video now after a week of really struggling with new OEM's. Thank you for this, I can't wait to get on later and try with these tips because I have been struggling so bad since OEM19 and I've not really enjoyed the game because I have been that bad but a lot of your points suggest a lot of errors in my playstyle. Thanks again your content is my go to for MXB!
I really like the new bikes. It's harder to clear some obstacles on the 250s, but it's much more rewarding when you do. The front end is amazing in corners now-I've had no front-end folds so far. The sliding feels like a fair trade-off for that, to be honest. Also, leaning back on rough sections is key; it helps you absorb every bump. As for the meta, after testing all the 250s (without setups), my ranking is: KTM Kawasaki GasGas Honda The KTM is really fast and the only bike I managed to clear certain sections with. The Kawasaki was my main in version 0.18, so I might be a bit biased, but it rides really well. It's well-balanced, and the precision makes it easier to be quick. The GasGas and Honda felt slightly better than the others, but all the bikes work fine. Even stock, with good setups, all are viable.
I use the kx250f more than any bike as well.. feels a lot different in my opinion. Like underpowered type of different. Used to be able to hit some big lines on it now I can’t. Any tips?
@@IanG107 Yeah, I had the same feeling, but that seems to be the case with the 250s in general. My guess is that grip is now more dependent on weight transfer. Before, you could more or less just hit the throttle and get full power, but now you need to put weight on the wheel to get the best effect. This makes the suspension setup crucial for maximizing performance. My standard MX suspension setup for the Kawasaki, which was amazing in version 0.18, feels too soft in 0.19. I had to stiffen it slightly to gain more traction, and now I’m getting power comparable to other bikes. But yes, It’s definitely harder to clear some sections now, which i don't mind tbh. I’ve also experimented with the gear ratio a bit, and even small adjustments seem to make a difference.
If you lean in the beginning of the turn and almost middle of the turn go back to neutral position it will hook up. Sometimes you gotta be careful because it will hook alot and wheelie out of the turn. There is a fine line but when you find that fine line these bikes bark. Waaaaay better than the last bikes hands down.
@SMG59- stock feels like ass and I have no idea what actually tweaks what to make the bike behave the way I'm used to with the generic setup I've used for the last set of oems forever lol
There will be lap times from b18 that will never be broken because of b19. Forks are improving in whoops but back end is completely wild now…. More rear break and Pressure on the front end helps but why???? So backwards! Lean needs to be important but also needs to make sense compared to real life. Squaring up and cutting down 180s is arguably worse imo. This is not hate lol…. Love the game more than anyone but wth is happening!!
i don’t understand why people are complaining. if you’re a casual player and your main complaint is traction; turn the damn assists on. I’ve spent 14 hours in testing and got the new bike dialed within minutes, truly a skill issue with all the whiners. the game is progressing astronomically and creating skill gaps that we have never seen before. yall are in copper.
definitely grabbing a little bit of rear brake helps the back end not act like a crack head. its gonna take some getting used to for sure. I just hope it doesnt ruin too many of the older tracks especially ones we've paid for.
After they dropped i spent some time trying em out with friends end as soon as i hit the track i old the guys i was in love with these bikes, like i felt so in control compared to b18
@@SynnMx i think they are way more predictable and controllable. Coming from a MX sim background, i‘m glad this change in the OEMs happened. Smooth riding is key.
Honourable mention to having a good consistent shock setting on the 19's, that helps a lot with keeping the rear tyre on the ground On the 18's i basically killed my rear shock so it felt completely dead, but that absolutely does not work with these new OEM's
I'm on the struggle bus! Just when I was starting to be competitive I gotta relearn the meta. Thanks for the tips as always you're input is very inciteful. 540ish hours.....PLUP
I promise everyone watching this video every single one of these tips are legit. Put them in action in game and I promise you'll see. Biggest ones are leaning forward and standing
This update was definitely needed! There was no skill gap before, just pin it and gooooo. Now it’s more realistic and sim vibes. It should be hard, otherwise go back and play the milestone games. 🤷♂️
Question. I have loaded in game on every bike with no problem, except the honda 450. When i load in, i show up in the pits, and my game crashes. Has anyone else had this problem?
I think everybody has missed one of the biggest parts of this update... I say this because now with the way they made traction you can slide your tires off the face and scrub way lower like a real bubba scrub.
Someone please help me with some clarity. The new update affects all the previous B18 bikes as well in the same way, correct? I want to make sure when I added the update I didn’t delete anything I shouldn’t have (I deleted the old tyres file). I didn’t have any ‘24 models added when I did the update, so I’m not sure if that’s an additional update. In short, this update affects all bikes across the game, correct? I’m new to MXBikes, so I appreciate any and all help 😊
I feel like my bike is so underpowered compared to other peoples, Ill rail a corner but it still wont be enough to clear the jumps, and I know im not that slow.
it’s really all theory but if you sit to compress on the face of the jump stand at the lip while SLIGHTLY leaning forward to drive the rear down you can get a small bump.
I just don’t get how I could hit “big” lines on a 250f two weeks ago and now I can’t no matter the adjustment I make in the “garage” or with my riding style. Shit sucks
@@BUTTERY-APEX 💀 these bikes are like 2 seconds off of previous bikes. I have run pro quali times on both Mx and Sx… also for the record. $0 exchanged between me and oem team 🤝 if you channeled some of your anger into playing the game instead of raging in my comment section you probably wouldn’t hate the bikes as much
Oh look another youtuber trying to mansplain why these bikes are backwards and suck....... But wait there the best ever. This crap is so broken I guess there paying you also.
but doccy woccy... i dont wanna throtle contrul i want two hold it wid opin bc fun an i dont wna throttle controol so no
@@troyjannn wen collab
EZ for you to say when you get to play the game for 140 hours every 2 weeks.. not everyone wanted this type of change except the pros. bikes is going to lose ALOT of casual players and the game will slowly die off..
@SwazeyThaGod in 2 weeks your not even going to remember how the old bikes were lol
@@SwazeyThaGod I have heard that quite literally EVERY oem update. They said the same things about the v18 bikes
@@SwazeyThaGod im a big casual who only has about 30 hours played at this point. these bikes are way better for me because the skill gap is learning proper throttle control and how to actually ride and not just hold rt and lean back
I feel like there's always been seat bounce if you sit up the jump face then stand at the top of the jump you definitely can get a bit more launch off the face.
Ive been playing these new OEMs now for about 5 hours and now im actually enjoying mxbikes more than i was in b18. Leaning forwards helps a ton!! Throttle control is also soooo much better. Also cutting down in supercross is actually insanely fun. I think these new OEMs just need to be givin a chance since we are so used to the other bikes.
same, at first i didnt like it but thats prob mostly because i was used to the old where you have unrealisticly god like grip. but now the more i play the more i enjoy this update then the old, this update gives a realistic feeling when you cant go in a corner at 100mph and somehow have f1 grip the whole turn like u could before. Like racing irl you drive on dirt you pretty much never have grip.....like its dirt it moves under ur wheel at all time its not a solid ground ur not supposed to have f1 grip on dirt. I enjoy this update more and more.
Coming from MX sim where you ALWAYS want to sit a lean forward on the turn, I was doing that in MX bikes and just washing constantly. It wasn't until I payed attention to Troys controller input and realized he was back leaning on the turns that I was able to get the turns right.
On these OEM 19s the lean forward tech coming back feels so right.
I've got maybe 400 hours in MX sim and 30 in MX bikes
I love that u can come in hot slide into corner and then cut down on throttle. Feels great and creates cool battles you didn't have before. I feel like inside lines are going to be more useful now instead of just allways railing outside right behind someone
coming to this video now after a week of really struggling with new OEM's. Thank you for this, I can't wait to get on later and try with these tips because I have been struggling so bad since OEM19 and I've not really enjoyed the game because I have been that bad but a lot of your points suggest a lot of errors in my playstyle. Thanks again your content is my go to for MXB!
Hey Doc I could really use some help with tuning the new bikes! A video on it would be great. With that said this vid helped me a lot thank you!
I HAtE tHat a DiRt biKE SiM goT mOrE rEALiStiC 😭
I really like the new bikes. It's harder to clear some obstacles on the 250s, but it's much more rewarding when you do. The front end is amazing in corners now-I've had no front-end folds so far. The sliding feels like a fair trade-off for that, to be honest. Also, leaning back on rough sections is key; it helps you absorb every bump.
As for the meta, after testing all the 250s (without setups), my ranking is:
KTM
Kawasaki
GasGas
Honda
The KTM is really fast and the only bike I managed to clear certain sections with. The Kawasaki was my main in version 0.18, so I might be a bit biased, but it rides really well. It's well-balanced, and the precision makes it easier to be quick. The GasGas and Honda felt slightly better than the others, but all the bikes work fine. Even stock, with good setups, all are viable.
idk how you can like these pos XD
I use the kx250f more than any bike as well.. feels a lot different in my opinion. Like underpowered type of different. Used to be able to hit some big lines on it now I can’t. Any tips?
@@IanG107 Yeah, I had the same feeling, but that seems to be the case with the 250s in general. My guess is that grip is now more dependent on weight transfer. Before, you could more or less just hit the throttle and get full power, but now you need to put weight on the wheel to get the best effect.
This makes the suspension setup crucial for maximizing performance. My standard MX suspension setup for the Kawasaki, which was amazing in version 0.18, feels too soft in 0.19. I had to stiffen it slightly to gain more traction, and now I’m getting power comparable to other bikes. But yes, It’s definitely harder to clear some sections now, which i don't mind tbh.
I’ve also experimented with the gear ratio a bit, and even small adjustments seem to make a difference.
If you lean in the beginning of the turn and almost middle of the turn go back to neutral position it will hook up. Sometimes you gotta be careful because it will hook alot and wheelie out of the turn. There is a fine line but when you find that fine line these bikes bark. Waaaaay better than the last bikes hands down.
Can we get like a basic setup or something for the new oems? I feel like the setup changes are messing me up harder than the bike change is
start from stock and tweak as needed
@SMG59- stock feels like ass and I have no idea what actually tweaks what to make the bike behave the way I'm used to with the generic setup I've used for the last set of oems forever lol
@@TerranFirma what bike are you using and what class?
@@SMG59- 450 KTM, just doing hot laps on my own more than racing.
I’ve noticed the rear end is bouncey and had to up the rebound to around 15. Compression is 3 1/2 - 4. Everything else I’ve kept the same
There will be lap times from b18 that will never be broken because of b19. Forks are improving in whoops but back end is completely wild now…. More rear break and Pressure on the front end helps but why???? So backwards! Lean needs to be important but also needs to make sense compared to real life. Squaring up and cutting down 180s is arguably worse imo. This is not hate lol…. Love the game more than anyone but wth is happening!!
@@cadealexander5349 the lean forward thing is not an oem issue that’s just Mx bikes it’s always been that way
@@REAPERDOC agreed
i don’t understand why people are complaining. if you’re a casual player and your main complaint is traction; turn the damn assists on. I’ve spent 14 hours in testing and got the new bike dialed within minutes, truly a skill issue with all the whiners. the game is progressing astronomically and creating skill gaps that we have never seen before. yall are in copper.
definitely grabbing a little bit of rear brake helps the back end not act like a crack head. its gonna take some getting used to for sure. I just hope it doesnt ruin too many of the older tracks especially ones we've paid for.
Do you have your brakes separate? I followed RD’s advice and kept the brakes linked. Is it better to have them separate now?
@@JamesKeeganSanchez i have em linked, but i stopped using em as much and just counter lean forward
After they dropped i spent some time trying em out with friends end as soon as i hit the track i old the guys i was in love with these bikes, like i felt so in control compared to b18
What is the name of the last track in this video? The one where you are on the yz250 2smoke.
best OEMs ever, hands down! so much fun man
Cap there is just now a skill gap but I don’t like em or hate em
@@SynnMx i think they are way more predictable and controllable. Coming from a MX sim background, i‘m glad this change in the OEMs happened. Smooth riding is key.
great video doc! let's get fast times uploaded on each map to start pushing each other on new lines etc!
Honourable mention to having a good consistent shock setting on the 19's, that helps a lot with keeping the rear tyre on the ground
On the 18's i basically killed my rear shock so it felt completely dead, but that absolutely does not work with these new OEM's
Can you give out some bike setups?
Doc, can we get a v.19 video shootout on mouse just like v.18 and compare the times of both pretty please!!!!!?!?!
I'm on the struggle bus! Just when I was starting to be competitive I gotta relearn the meta. Thanks for the tips as always you're input is very inciteful. 540ish hours.....PLUP
Any new bike setups?
I promise everyone watching this video every single one of these tips are legit. Put them in action in game and I promise you'll see. Biggest ones are leaning forward and standing
I’ve been struggling on being able to play on the new bikes it crashes every time
This update was definitely needed! There was no skill gap before, just pin it and gooooo. Now it’s more realistic and sim vibes. It should be hard, otherwise go back and play the milestone games. 🤷♂️
Loving the new OEMs!
What track is that @ 7:30?
How do you get handguards? Pls answer with a link or something simular!
Just look at @mrnova807 video he has a video on how get them
Whats that first track ? 😮
any1 know where i can get the twinwalls for the yam 250 and 450 i got that gross stock one
My left trigger is sit and my brake is the b button I just spam it super fast
lowk faster on these
New oems are fun they give you a good challenge
W video mr doccington
always got the best bike skins fr
Is there a link for the old OEM’s somewhere?
i dont think so
I still have them
💀
Question. I have loaded in game on every bike with no problem, except the honda 450. When i load in, i show up in the pits, and my game crashes. Has anyone else had this problem?
Standing up off the jump is essentially seat bouncing in this game
hopefully this update encourages people to ride on different tracks that aren’t forest😂
I think everybody has missed one of the biggest parts of this update... I say this because now with the way they made traction you can slide your tires off the face and scrub way lower like a real bubba scrub.
i love the bikes w update
well maybe someday we can throw down some laps together maybe help me out a little more
Honda 250 meta?
Just as i started really getting into the game and racing they release these slip-n-slide bikes. -_-
Someone please help me with some clarity. The new update affects all the previous B18 bikes as well in the same way, correct? I want to make sure when I added the update I didn’t delete anything I shouldn’t have (I deleted the old tyres file). I didn’t have any ‘24 models added when I did the update, so I’m not sure if that’s an additional update.
In short, this update affects all bikes across the game, correct? I’m new to MXBikes, so I appreciate any and all help 😊
@@JamesKeeganSanchez you are correct! Best way to tell is just try and join an online race. If you get into the lobby you did it right
@@REAPERDOC Thank you!!!🙏 God bless ☺️
Yo the kawi 250 is fuckin insane
i am just saying, these bikes are one of the best bikes
I’m still slow what the freak
I feel like my bike is so underpowered compared to other peoples, Ill rail a corner but it still wont be enough to clear the jumps, and I know im not that slow.
how do you seat bounce
it’s really all theory
but
if you sit to compress on the face of the jump
stand at the lip while SLIGHTLY leaning forward to drive the rear down
you can get a small bump.
Is it just me or the suspension feels smoother for smaller bumps
I’ll just play next beta
lets ride, maybe you can show me some stuff be awesome
I just don’t get how I could hit “big” lines on a 250f two weeks ago and now I can’t no matter the adjustment I make in the “garage” or with my riding style. Shit sucks
Those tracks weren’t optimized for these bikes just wait till they start making tracks catered to the new bikes
compared to the previews hitting lines you used to hit on the old bikes is much easier now. people were still managing it on the previews.
does anybody know someone who can make custom graphics for me
yea the honda is not the same it is so weird
I STAY SEAT BOUNCING IN MX BIKES
or you can stay with old oems
You’ll never be in a pub race then
and one more pro tip - use A - kit bikes :D
Do me a favor show us a video of you landing on the rear wheel while applying throttle ..... Nope, thought not.
@@BUTTERY-APEX how many more comments you gon put on the video bro 💀
@@REAPERDOC Dont answer me lol enjoy the money
@@BUTTERY-APEX 💀 these bikes are like 2 seconds off of previous bikes. I have run pro quali times on both Mx and Sx… also for the record. $0 exchanged between me and oem team 🤝 if you channeled some of your anger into playing the game instead of raging in my comment section you probably wouldn’t hate the bikes as much
Tell me why tiny brain man .... why when you go thru a corner coasting offffffffff the throttle does the rear end wash out.....
If you think there is no seat bounce mechanic you are crazy.
bikes are a$$ now
No skills to give mx bike classes
Oh look another youtuber trying to mansplain why these bikes are backwards and suck....... But wait there the best ever. This crap is so broken I guess there paying you also.
uninstalling is free lil bro
new oems suck
You suck
skill issue
Just say you’re bad at the game buddy
Skill issue
Agreed if you have a life it's too much
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These things stink!
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