My Protestant Experience of The Holy Fire 2017
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- In 2017, I got a ticket from the Greek Patriarchate to attend the Miracle of Holy Fire Ceremony with a friend of mine who is a professional videographer. We were given incredible access and I stood 15 feet from Christ's tomb for most of the ceremony.
This is my experience.
Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us 🙏🏼☦️
Agios o Theos, Agios ischyros, Agios athanatos, eleison imas!
Sanctus Deus, Sanctus fortis, Sanctus immortalis, miserere nobis!
Święty Boże, Święty mocny, Święty a nieśmiertelny, zmiłuj się nad nami!
Amen and Amen
Hristos a înviat!
Adevărat a înviat
Thank you for mentioning that the tomb and the Patriarch are checked for sources of fire. As much as skeptics try to discredit this miracle, they cannot.
Haris Skarlakidis in this book talks about how even Muslim authorities were skeptical as to whether or not there were lighters or candles used to light the candles rather than the supernatural behind the lighting of the candles. Yet even back then they couldn't disprove the miracle!
One of the patriach assistants or whatever they are called confessed that they light a lamp right before the patriarch walks in. I don't know why you wouldn't trust the word of one of the few people allowed to go in immediately after the door is unsealed?
I'm surprised they would lie. And I'm annoyed people wave fire around on their hands and claim it doesn't burn them, you can do that with any fire.
And coming from me, I'm not an atheist I do not deny the power of God, I have experienced miraculous things.
I was skeptical of this from the beginning, It is unlike the God I know to be predictable, rather God's works have a tendency to be mysterious and either deeply personal or wide reaching prophetic words that span decades, centuries, millenia.
When Christ returns He rejects people that call themselves Christians yet He calls them lawless. Is a liar lawless? Yes. What damage would a Christian liar do? whether it is an orthodox priest pretending a miracle or a Charasmatic pretending a miracle, in both cases you can kill someone's faith because they foolishly put their faith on someone's lies rather than God.
there are cases when the candels of the people outside of the thumbe get ignited , there are not doubs about the miracle .
The Orthodox Church itself never makes the claim that its a miracle
@@codyleger1750a miracle remain a miracle claimed or not
We’ll done! During Covid that church was completely vacant of visitors except for a few of the Armenian clergy and of course the Greek orthodox patriarch of Jerusalem. One of the cameras was trained on a side window while yhe Patriarch was inside. I could see inside the tomb area through a side window. There were a couple of instances I saw a blue glowing light appear while the Armenian delegate could be seen inside looking down toward the stone where the Greek orthodox patriarch was kneeling. A few minutes later the Patriarch appeared with the two bundles of candles and the Holy Fire. I took a couple screenshots of the blue light and saved them on my phone. It was 3:15 AM in California and something compelled me to see what was going on at the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. I am glad I did! Kristos Anesti (Christ is Risen!)
ቅዱስ እግዚአብሔር ቅዱስ ኃያል ቅዱስ ሕያው ዘኢይመውት፤ ተሣሃለነ እግዚኦ፤
I learned about this miracle from my Romanian wife. I hope to go someday and experienced this with my family. I am very happy you were able to experience this miracle.
I'm Catholic and I love you with all my heart. May we be one someday. Peace be with you. Amen.
Hristos A Inviat!
May God bless you to become an Orthodox Christian!
This!
Orthodox Christianity forever and ever Amen 🙏 🙌 ☦️
The Greek Orthodox Church is criticised by many new age Christian denominations because we believe in the grace of God and doing the will of God through acts of kindness. The new age Christian churches believe that you are saved through your relationship with God alone. The irony of this debacle is that God himself bestow's the tradition of the Holy Fire to manifest itself.
Greek TV exposed the holy fire scam some time ago..But people will believe cos they "want" to believe. Not because of the truth.. Heres the youtube link to the story.. th-cam.com/video/pY1ikm0p0Z4/w-d-xo.html
They don't understand that yes we are saved by the gift of faith, but like in the parable of the ten virgins, we must have have oil for our lamp to be permitted entry.
New age is witchcraft. They're not new age
In 2010 in Michigan, I happened to run I to a video clip of the fire DESCENDING from in front of the tomb. I had to pause and rewound it to see if that was real. The Fire came from above outside the tomb, and to this day I haven't run into that clip again. I still wonder if it is real, hoping to witness that someday.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It would be an incredible joy to be able to visit the holy sites in Jerusalem, and to experience this miracle of God. I became Orthodox in 2018, converted from atheism.
Can you convince one of my ethist friend please. If you tell her your experience she would be an Orthodox. Please help her. I will give you her contact. God bless you
@@drmezgebualex3414 It's hard to convince atheists, because their hearts are closed to the truth. My journey back to the faith is too complex to share here. Suffice it to say I was struggling with the seeming meaninglessness of my existence, paired with an inner realization that I was on a bad road that would lead to my destruction of I didn't change. Your friend may want to listen to Father Lazarus El Anthony's testimony. He was an atheist professor who became a Coptic monk. There should be videos of him on TH-cam.
@@jajohnson7809 💒
welcome............... russian orthodox
I'm a Palestinian Christian and thank you so much for seeing the Holy fire, I just wanted to say that those men who you called Arab Christians, don't just sing about being Arab but also about being Palestinian and also chant about God and freedom for Palestine :)
God bless and give strength to our Palestinian Christian family!
There are a lot of Orthodox Christian martyrs in Palestine. God bless
@@RedRiverMan God bless you so much ❤️☦️🇵🇸🕊️
@@nikkarel515 Yes I am also an Orthodox Christian ❤️☦️ God bless you ❤️🇵🇸🕊️
@@user-ud3yv1hl7k I hope the Palestinian people one day return to the true God of all people...Jesus Christ! Have a wonderfull Easter with your loved ones!
MAY THE HOLY FIRE UNITE ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES
A beautifully captured video! Blessings from a Greek Orthodox Christian in Australia. 🙏🏻 🇦🇺
This is one of the most beautiful and amazing miracles in modern Christianity and most Christians have never heard of it. You didn’t mention that the fire doesn’t burn when touched and also the height of the flames. If I remember correctly it lasts in that state for around 20 minutes and then turns to regular fire.
CHRIST IS RISENNNN
CHRIST JESUS IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD 😊
God, give my son back to me!
We are tought that we are all equal in Christ Jesus. Both Greek and Egyptian both Slave and a free man. In him Humanity meets divinity. Through him we too can be santified. Blessed is the Lord God for his mercy indures unto age of ages. Amen.
Remarkable. I have chills. Is an Críost éirithe!
Very beautiful. I had never heard of this until recently. It is more than an encouragement to my faith in these difficult times.
What a huge privilege you had dear friend... Hope to have the same opportunity one day. This is so fascinating. It revived my faith
Wonderful! Thanks so much! It is the Shekinah coming to us every year! What a blessing.
Christ Is Risen☦️
Thank u brother for sharing your experiencr , greetings from a Coptic , God bless all Americans and enlighten their lives
God bless you... N God bless us all ✝😇✝
Thank you so much beautiful. Love you family All Glory to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ 🙏
Christ is Risen!🙏❤️☦️✝️
Christ is Risen indeed.
Bless you and thank you😊🙏
Thank you for sharing this. Thank you. God bless you....
Thank you for this video brother.
It's not Holy Fire .... it's Holy Light .... we are watching it as fire on candles, but it's coming as Light (The HOLY LIGHT)
@Saltz Hill In Ortodox church very important is not only the Bible, but also the tradition. .... so, not take everything only from Bible but also from the Tradition of the Ortodox church through centuries .... and Ecumenical counsils
@Saltz Hill You should stop blaspheming against Jesus, you shouldn't say you hate the church, which is the body of Christ and his bride.
Brother, God allowed it so you would convert to Orthodox! 🙏🌺☦️🌺🙏
Excellent thank you
Thanks for this incredible, powerful and faithful video. May God bless you more and give to chance to every year go there. We also want to come there but unfortunately our country Pakistan banned Israel. Thanks again for sharing
Thanks for sharing
nice 1 bro❤
Did you try putting it on your face or hand? Christ is Risen!
By the way , did u test the fire while you r there , like bathed your hands in it and found its of low temp ?
☦️🙏🏻
You said to watch another video linked below, but I see none in the description or pinned to the top.
Did those Orthodox friends from Birmingham happen to go to St. Symeon Orthodox Church? That was my first Orthodox experience
No one has more of a claim on Christianity, because of their race or ethnicity. Other than that great video thanks for the great content.
I totally agree with you. In my opinion it is like that because greek was a vehicle language for spreading Logos, the Word of Christ and thus the Christianity.
The Holy Scripture was firstly written in Aramean, Christ's native language. ( Christ was NOT a jew !! ) Logically, the honour of lighting the Holy Fire should go to the Arameic Orthodox Priest.
It's nothing but abuse, but I let this problem into hands of God !
Jesus was a Jew@@christismystrength6521
That was a total cringe moment.
No, not because of ethnicity, but because the Orthodox Church, the Church of the Apostles and the Fathers is considered the true "one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church."
@@christismystrength6521 You are objectively wrong, stop embarrassing yourself and spouting idiocy.
Fire is used a lot in the Bible, and in the same way we use it a lot in real life. Just like in real life fire can be pleasant or discomforting. We could say "Spending a cozy evening by the fire" or "our cities are on fire" and they mean different things. In the same way is our afterlife, the fire of God will burn on everyone living and dead and we will either view it is as good thing if we follow God, or evil if we follow choose not to.
orthodoxia is one not greek not arab not rusiian its universal
"These people have more of a claim on Christianity than I do. Jesus of Nazareth looks more like them than he does me." Strikingly worldly and anti-Christian take.
Christ was a Jew….
@@nativevirginian8344 Your point?
@Меѳодїи That would apply to any protestant telling any Orthodox how to practice their faith, regardless of ancestry or ethnicity.
Why not put a camera in the tomb when it happens then? Or show an actual candle held by someone outside of it lighting, cause you all keep saying this stuff and it’s easy to show in a video, yet you never do it
If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIIl in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to re-marry.
If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.
If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
If you are Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England, founded by Samuel Senbury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1606.
If you are of the Dutch Reformed Church, you recognize Michelis Jones as founder because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.
If you are a Methodist, your religion was founded by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1774.
If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, New York, in 1829.
If you worship with the Salvation Army, your
sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.
If you are Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as "Church of the Nazarene", "Pentecostal Gospel", "Holiness Church", or "Jehovah's Witnesses", your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past hundred years.
If you are Roman Catholic, your church shared the same rich apostolic and doctrinal heritage as the Orthodox Church for the first thousand years of its history, since during the first millennium they were one and the same Church. Lamentably, in 1054, the Pope of Rome broke away from the other four Apostolic Patriarchates (which include Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem), by tampering with the Original Creed of the Church, and considering himself to be infallible. Thus your church is 1,000 years old.
If you are ORTHODOX Christian, your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It has not changed since that time. Our church is now almost 2,000 years old. And it is for this reason, that Orthodoxy, the Church of the Apostles and the Fathers is considered the true "one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church." This is the greatest legacy that we can pass on to the young people of the new millennium.
Be good, and he will reward you, after death.
It's about Faith in Jesus Christ, not being good.
Goodness comes from following Christ Jesus.
Goodness without Christ is worthless.
Godbless to all christian 💓💓💓💖💖💖🙌🙌🙌🙌
2 nd are grece and romanian
It’s funny watching the Yahood trying to control the uncontrollable. Christ is Risen !
"yahood"? That is very disrespectful and not what Orthodoxy teaches. Pray for them that they too may become our fellow brothers and sisters. Lord have mercy on us all.
@@VancouverGirl-my8gy they are not our brothers
@@Ettoredipugnar It doesn't matter. Christ didn't tell us to selectively love people. The hardest thing to do is to love those we find difficult to love.
I recommend reading the book Wounded by Love by St Porphyrios.
Prayer can change people and if you believe, then you must pray for them. If you are unable to do this, you need to speak to your spiritual father and have a confession.
God help you.
@@VancouverGirl-my8gy it does matter . Do you consider Orthodox and Catholic Christians real Christians ? They are being killed along with Muslim Palestinians . Historic 500 yr old church bombed . It has nothing to do with selectivity
@@VancouverGirl-my8gy why did you remove my reply? Did Jesus tell his apostles to reform the church ?did they? Did Jesus tell the apostles to bless same-sex marriage? No on both points. But men do and did . Don’t forget to remove this reply also .
Alright as this lands called a Holy Lands because Jesus Christ walk over this Ground and this parts of Earth and the name of it came from Jacob or named after his Fight within Angel Israel being called by God Lands Of Israel ...
Did we see / saw lights of resurrection coming from any other place or lands in the world ...
God bless Israel
Now imagine if a "protestant" (u know one of the mean ones) came up yo these arab guys and said "you are not christians😡"😂
Revelation 16:14
Are you meaning this celebration is demonic?
Read the Bible carefully about what will happen in the last days. References like Revelation 13:13.
@@NewEarthWellness This has been happening since before the last days though.
The 'last days' is a relative term. It is not specific when that starts. From Gods perspective 100 years is very very short time period. There is no time stamp when the last days begin. According to the Bible we have been in the last days for over 100 years. Read matthew 24 and other chapters that cover the end.
This has been happening over a hundred years.
It's been happening over 1,000 years.
The men you called “Arab Christian’s” are not actually Arabs. They are Levantines from Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine. Jesus did not look like an Arab. He looked like a Levantine.
1-Jesus was NOT Arab... He was of the House of David.
2-Skin color DOES NOTHING with respect to your closeness to YHWH.
3-Your membership in a denomination will not get you into heaven.
Are your sins covered by the precious Blood of Yeshua? ...THAT MATTERS!
Shut up
Who's Yeshua?
Ludacris to speak in 1 language, than at key moment to which to a different language.
That's confusing and confusion is a sign of Satan, NOT The Lord Jesus Christ.
Arabs are Semitic.
Nobody from Syria can go to occupied Palestine.
But i would rather experience the spiritual fire of the Holy Spirit that actualy profoundly CHANGES LIVES than just a physical sign of something…
Yeah, I would rather experience something “spiritual” rather than something physical like, for instance, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, the God-Man, or, let’s say, tongues of fire, like at Pentecost. Are you beginning to understand how ignorant your comment is? The Holy Fire/Light is the UNCREATED divine grace of God. The Scriptures say “God is light.”
@@orthodoxywenatchee2293 you are right
it's about Pentecost. as Christ had commandEd his disciples before He left us for His heavenly abode He said the holy spirit will desend unto you after I ascend. you will receive great power and heal in my name. Thus on the day of Pentecost, in the upper room at Jerusalem ,this miracle took place upon them. from then on the holy fire spread across the land, by the disciples of Christ.
If alien Jesus returned he would probably be all like " whoah cool trick bros"
More like a Football match.
Lord Jesus Christ have mercy!
"He (Apostate Churches) performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men." Revelation 13:13 NKJV
This has been happening for over 1600 years, since right after Christianity was legalized and the original church was built. 1600 years ago you were either Orthodox (including the bishop of Rome, there were some really devout and saintly pre-schism popes), or a heretic. There were no Roman Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, or Presbyterians all claiming to be equally valid. You were in, or out. One Church, one Message, delivered once, to be unbroken and to prevail against the gates of Hell, established by Christ and the Apostles, who passed down the tradition and apostolic deposit to their successors; the fist bishop of Rome, Pope St. Linus, is mentioned as Peter's successor in 2nd Timothy 4:21. Were it not for the Orthodox, there would be no set canon of Holy Scripture at all.
I wonder would Jesus get a ticket? As a Jew the Christian denominations would hardly welcome Him. I wonder will it be a Protestant heaven? The resurrection took place 3 days after the Day of Passover, which is Nisan 17th in the Biblical calendar. Surely that is the date that Yeshua or God would have a fire miracle if they truly are the Authors of it, not the man-made "Easter 'Sun'-day" which rarely falls on Nisan 17th. Who controls time, man or God? God's Passover or "Easter"?
I wish people like you never had the right to speak, if there would be no tickets, then Muslims, Jews and many denominations would enter instead of Christians who are checked by the churches, and if there were no tickets then billions of people would try to enter and it would be worst then Travis Scott’s concert
@@OrthoFireCrusader The point is Jesus (Yeshua) would not likely buy a ticket for this man-invented travesty that neither the Bible, God or Yeshua support in any part of Christian belief/doctrine.
You may wish people like me had no right to speak, the same way as I wish people like you never had the right to speak about misleading pseudo-"holy" fires and other such superstition.
@@nonnymoose6260 Thank you for your most gracious reply. I was writing about prejudice, not being prejudiced myself. I studied the history of the Church in relation to the Jews as a church missionary among them in Israel for over 10 years, and the sad reality is that the Hebrew race over the past 2,000 years of Church or "Christian" history has been murdered, persecuted and hounded in and out of many Christian nations often in the name of Christ and the Cross, such as during the Crusades lighting synagogues alight with Jews inside, and forced conversions of Jews in Spain before their expulsion in 1492, preceded only by England in 1290 under Edward I.
All these Christian monarchs promoted anti-Semitism within the churches preceded by the anti-Semitic vitriolic sermons & teachings by the Church Fathers such as St John Chrisostom (probably spelt wrongly) which has filtered down among church congregations over the centuries to the present day. Yes, some Jews will be welcome in a church if they either convert or want to pay a visit, but the doctrine & ecclesiastical teaching of many clergy & prelates is often filled with anti-Jewish attitudes and prejudices, even if veiled or not readily admitted to. It is still there.
Don't ask me, but ask any Jew and they will tell you how they fared better under the Muslims than under the Christians, and it hasn't gone away you know. I have digressed, so I will stop.
I apologise for offending you, I was trying to be a bit hypothetical siding onto dry wit, but I obviously failed in my objective. I must keep my conversations strictly to non-Christians in future as they are a little less easily offended. Keep what dates you like. It's not at all my business as you say. I'm going to have a churchless, dateless, Christianless week and be happier as a result.
I don't understand. What do you mean? Christ established His Church 2,000 years ago. Of course Jesus, His family, the Apostles were all Jews. Indeed, the majority of the first Christians were Jews, with Ethiopians and Armenians being the first Gentile Christians before Europeans were accepted into the church.
In terms of prejudice that's not on God, Jesus, or the church in of herself. The human side of the church, the people, sure. But that's the thing, we're all flawed sinners. Prejudice and evil at large has sadly been a part of the human condition since the fall of mankind and creation at large. We are evil, sinful, and depraved by nature. The antisemitism of a percentage of people in the church is not representative of the entirety of Christendom. Many times, anyone who has any kind of prejudice, whether it's antisemitism or any other kind of racism or hate and commit such abominable acts against their fellow man, are not true Christians.
Christians are (or should be) taught to love God and love others, including those who are different from us or hate us. We are not supposed to hate anyone, for any reason, period. If one hates someone they are a murderer.
Jesus was NOT a jew.
stop misunderstanding and ridiculing others as if inuslting them,r emove that pcap and accpet orthodoxy not htat racially perverted way of seeing htings, protestant orosmething ! amen
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THE NAME JESUS CHRIST
( in Greek : Ιησούς Χριστός ://: Iesous Christos)
Ιησούς ://: Iesous
it comes from the ancient greek verb
"Ιήσω" (Ieso) at the Attic dialect (Athenian dialect) or
"Ιάσω" (Iaso) at the Doric dialect (Spartan Dialect)
Both these two verbs means "CURE"
So, in ancient Greek language, (Attic or Doric Dialect) the name ("Ιησούς" ://: Iesous), means, "The person who brings Cure" or "The Therapist"
{ example : "Ιατρός" ://: Iatros, .... means DOCTOR }
"Χριστός" ://: Cristos (Christ)
It comes from the ancient Greek verb...
"χρίζω" ://: (chrizo), or "κεχρισμένος" ://: (kechrismenos)
It means "The anointed" (The person who bears the anointing)
SO, "Ιησούς Χριστός" (Iesous Christos) : {Jesous Christ} means ::
The "Anointed Therapist" ( who cure souls, bodies, minds, hearts)
THE SAVIOR = ("Σωτήρ" ://: Soter) of HUMANITY AND THE WHOLE COSMOS (WORLD) WHO GIVES THERAPY TO EVERYONE and EVERYTHING.!!!
his name comes from his hebrew name, yeshua
@@steveast2677 I gave you both origin of His names in ancient Greek language
Tell me then from where comes his name "Christ".? .... is this Heabrew too.???
@@steveast2677 You can make your own research about what i wrote...... i just gave you the reason, to do your own research.!!! It's up to you to find the truth.....and never take everything as fact.!!! .... Keep your mind OPEN to earn something more than this they tought you in school.
@@steveast2677 Ἰᾱσώ, ιασόος,
συνηρ. η ιασοῦς,
κλητική . Ἰασοῖ (ἰάομαι),
η Ιασώ : Θεότητα της ιάσεως και της υγείας, (Αριστοφάνης)
@UCGg2u2tu9Yp9TquB22552zQ I do not dissagree with you.....this you say is the Hebrew explanation and i have no reason to dissagree ....Everyone has his own explanations .... I just gave you the Greek one.!!!
Also not forget that Mary's grondfather name was Panther (Pantheras in Greek).... this name is clearly 100 % Greek name and he was soldier in the Roman army.
Also not forget that in Galely region were Christ grow up, were living plenty of Ethincs (Ethnics were only the Romans and Greeks.... this means that almost 70-80 % of people were liveing in Galiley were Greek origin and they were speaking Greek language.
AND NOW A VERY CRUCIAL QUESTION.!!!
DO YOU KNOW IN WHICH LANGUAGE JESOUS CHRIST (Iesous Christos) / or Yeshua SPOKE WHEN THEY BROUGHT HIM INFRONT PONTIUS PILATUS.???
Its just a fake its a big scam and bussiness
Any and every Christian denomation is a fake scam the only truth is orthodoxy. Also Hinduism Islam etc are all demonic
No it's real.
@@OutWestRedDirt real what? One man go inside of a little room and he fire the candle himself not god did it