Alisa's not that simple, she's got her complicated stuff but people use her EASY DAMAGE stuff. Her combo game is weak. So most Alisa players tend to memorize her 10 hit combo for the "combo potential" Blocking low will stop it from being complete. Her chainsaw activation is also easy to stop by attacking low because she can't use kicks and most of her abusable chainsaw moves have slow animation start up, especially her lows. Be careful though, her rage drive can still be activated during chainsaw mode, most people think she can't if she has her chainsaw mode on. During chainsaw mode her forward flight cannot be feinted to bait you. She just stops and is vulnerable while she flies. A good ol' anti air move can push her out of it
She's my main but I hate most people who play her, so cheap with the blades and shit. I play as decent with her a possible, so I love the character depending on who plays her. For example, I love Cuddlecore and Chanel's Alisa, but I hate eyemusician's Alisa. Eyemusician is extremely good fundamentally, but the way he uses Alisa is so cheap.
You know the problem with players like this is that I just can't help feeling when they make a good block etc that they are using cheats..it's annoying because I don't want to be just shouting 'cheater!' every time someone who isn't great (or spams knowledge checks a lot) does something good, it's just so hard to not think that, with how much of it goes on, messes with your head a bit.
If you want real answers asked me , he is 44 years old and he plays in his shop( selling digital stuff ) if doesnt have costumers and he is really cool guy 👍🏻
@@ahbayat89 hey that's cool pal. Yeah my point I was making was I don't want to think that people are cheating but it's hard for it to not pop into your head!
So by definition a gimmick is something thats difficult to deal with and requires knowledge to counter properly. If that's the case then Alisa's chainsaw stance doesn't fall into this category because if you took the time to lab the stance you will realize that you cannot effectively counter it no matter how much you understand it. The stance has no holes, there's a move that covers every situation and extremely oppressive frames, your best defensive option is backdashing and even then she still have options to chase you in the stance, if you're at the wall you're screwed. So yeah even pro players get blown up by this shit sometimes and I can't blame Alisa players for using something this strong. It's not a gimmick, it's just overpowered.
most of the moves are safe and u cant parry them either so u have to sidestep the flowchart, but u can just randomly press high from the mid and u cant really tell its just guess
as an Alisa main, chainsaw sure is strong but I would argue that it's not overpowered at all. the stance might not have any hole to exploit but some top chainsaw move can be launch punish if u guessed right (ex: ducking f+1 or side walk left for d+1 and f1+2), the recovery after whiff of most moves are bad and the stance is also pretty weak in neutral.
TMM super sick performance dude . I faced an Alisa just like 3 hours ago playing at Fighter rank which is relatively low compared to Tekken god . anyway I am sure he wasn't as good at knowledge checking as this guy but still was super annoying and to begin he got like three win streak against me then I just started playing better and wining 50 precent of the matches something like this and I was so able to tell how much of a better basic player I was compared to him right away cause he was just playing circus . and of course as soon as I started winning most of the matches he quit .
I’m surprised, as a very casual, careless Tekken player who plays once every year, no one has ever said she’s a brain dead character. So i’ll go ahead and say it; Alisa’s a very braindead character 🤷🏻 and this video right here just shows how hellish and boring it is to play against her.
Dude if you think Alisa's brain dead she's nothing compared to Paul, Kunimitsu, Noctis, and a bunch more other top tier characters with dumbass damage and no brainer one button mash combos.
this is the state of ranked, people who are only looking to win by any means possible. no sportsmanship, no improvement, and certainly no fun, only ego and bullshit. just do players matches.
No ss, no kbd, no iwr execution, constantly whiffing, doesnt even know the optimal staples. "legit TK", yeah. This guy's real rank is around Warrior-Vindicator.
Nothing specific in this Alisa, they guy been really pissing with a lot of knowledge checks. He doesn't have very bad fundamentals but prefer to outplay oppos seems with a check and if they don't react do it over and over.
@@MasterVili but to counter that argument she has a snake edge and if some plays really gimmicky with lag it makes it way harder for the opponent to punish her ducking strings side walking etc. She isn't the best character to play with lag but she does pretty well
@@MasterVili Nah it's law. Her one is 27f laws is 28f. Laws doesn't launch her one does so that's not even subject for me to say alisas in better. Edit: laws does high crush but alisas low crushes that's when you can start adding opinion into it.
I really think they should remove all of these cheese moves and characters in tekken 8 and stick to what really fighting game should be there is no problem having broken characters but not cheese and cheap moves and characters that ruins all the fun
So basicly remove 80 % of the roster and 50 % of the remaining characters movelists. Not that great of an idea, dont you think. We would lose so many unique and interesting characters that it simply wouldnt be Tekken anymore. As much as I find it annoying to be killed by cheesy bullshit. In the end that basicly is Tekken. It is a deeply dishonest game. If you are not playing one of maybe five honest characters in the game, your character would be removed. I dont know man, feels a little hypocritical.
@@EddieMorphling I get your idea man and I respect it but how dying from cheesy movies are fun ? , and i know tekken is an dishonest game but why keeping it dishonest what prevents a great franchise to be greater ? and i didn’t say that i hate tekken i really like the game
@@abdullahalothman2609 But take Yoshi for example. This character basicly is cheesy, gimmick bullshit The Character. How are you going to make him an honest character ? He is dishonest and cheesy by design and I dont think anything can change that. So you would basicly need to remove him and I dont think that you think this is a good idea. I get where you are coming from man and while I agree that Tekken 7 has too much stuff in characters movelists, I personally dont think that removing the cheese and gimmicks would make it a better game. For me personally its this huge freedom that makes Tekken so unique.
I kinda agree but it's the amount of cheese there is in the game that creates this kind of player, and a huge part of getting good at Tekken is learning to beat this kind of playstyle.
Sheesh, even after all these wins he quits like that. I don't have the patience to play tekken online these days, the loadings and pluggers are baffling.
Not to sound dramatic, but I always wonder what players like this think they are. Like does this Alisa player look at their rank and think theyre actually good?
Man, playing such a trash character and then crying when you get downloaded 😕 Alisa is a character where you don't have to make any decisions, you just hit the opponent from whatever range you want and get out of any pressure by pressing buttons
I unfortunately fell out of love with Tekken 7. I still love the franchise and the lore, but I just cant stand the cheese anymore. I try to play patient, it's almost like anyone can be cheese. I experience nothing but anger and frustration, even in winning I just get a relief. The game is not fun anymore for me. I'm just gonna have to go into tekken 8 with a whole new perspective. I try to learn Steve and get better just to get smoked by people who just do the same move and mix it up over and over. Party spammers with no defense. The game is a cesspool of shit now.
Damn. He played that Alisa with 130+ ping. Mad respect for having patience to deal with something like this.
says the guy with a yoshi pic
@@karimkj01 I have a very good connection, so yeah.
Alisa's whole kit is made for raging kids with bad connections who prefer to plug whenever their cheese does not work.
how do you plug? does it actually just cancel the match and not count as a loss?
@@highlion8998 It's just alt+F4 during the game. You won't lose ANYTHING, it's bullshit
Alisa's not that simple, she's got her complicated stuff but people use her EASY DAMAGE stuff.
Her combo game is weak. So most Alisa players tend to memorize her 10 hit combo for the "combo potential"
Blocking low will stop it from being complete.
Her chainsaw activation is also easy to stop by attacking low because she can't use kicks and most of her abusable chainsaw moves have slow animation start up, especially her lows.
Be careful though, her rage drive can still be activated during chainsaw mode, most people think she can't if she has her chainsaw mode on.
During chainsaw mode her forward flight cannot be feinted to bait you. She just stops and is vulnerable while she flies. A good ol' anti air move can push her out of it
6:21 the noise everyone makes while fighting alisa
9:32 Since the release of the game I’ve never seen any Alisa players use that string and I mean NEVER LOL😂
⚰️ I have never seen that either wtf was that
It's supposed to be useless wth🤣
Shit I have.. at 12:07 I've never seen that string
@@therealmccoy2004 that looks like her 10 hit combo
I hate fighting her. Nothing wrong with the character. But everyone that uses her seems to be some form of mongolid.
mongolid uno hahahahah I agree they are all mongoloids, my mate mains her, he is.
F U have some manners
She's my main but I hate most people who play her, so cheap with the blades and shit. I play as decent with her a possible, so I love the character depending on who plays her. For example, I love Cuddlecore and Chanel's Alisa, but I hate eyemusician's Alisa. Eyemusician is extremely good fundamentally, but the way he uses Alisa is so cheap.
I don't even play against this player but his gameplay gives me a terrible headache 💀 big respect to you Main Man seriously.
Man I love zen tmm. He's gone past his training arc
I remember that Alisa, you've played him few months back when you had the sub zero mod. He also plugged on that time, so pathetic of him
tekken 7 must have BY FAR the longest loading screens in any fighting game... especially annoying when ur playing against friends
@Baby gimme Feet im playing on pc and tmm too...
Pc is def faster i play xbox and its 50/50 lol
They’re the longest of any modern fg I’ve played
Alisa is awesome character
You know the problem with players like this is that I just can't help feeling when they make a good block etc that they are using cheats..it's annoying because I don't want to be just shouting 'cheater!' every time someone who isn't great (or spams knowledge checks a lot) does something good, it's just so hard to not think that, with how much of it goes on, messes with your head a bit.
If you want real answers asked me , he is 44 years old and he plays in his shop( selling digital stuff ) if doesnt have costumers and he is really cool guy 👍🏻
@@ahbayat89 hey that's cool pal. Yeah my point I was making was I don't want to think that people are cheating but it's hard for it to not pop into your head!
14:51 Main Man is ABSOLUTELY UNLUCKY
So by definition a gimmick is something thats difficult to deal with and requires knowledge to counter properly. If that's the case then Alisa's chainsaw stance doesn't fall into this category because if you took the time to lab the stance you will realize that you cannot effectively counter it no matter how much you understand it. The stance has no holes, there's a move that covers every situation and extremely oppressive frames, your best defensive option is backdashing and even then she still have options to chase you in the stance, if you're at the wall you're screwed. So yeah even pro players get blown up by this shit sometimes and I can't blame Alisa players for using something this strong. It's not a gimmick, it's just overpowered.
most of the moves are safe and u cant parry them either so u have to sidestep the flowchart, but u can just randomly press high from the mid and u cant really tell its just guess
its so strong its crazy
as an Alisa main, chainsaw sure is strong but I would argue that it's not overpowered at all. the stance might not have any hole to exploit but some top chainsaw move can be launch punish if u guessed right (ex: ducking f+1 or side walk left for d+1 and f1+2), the recovery after whiff of most moves are bad and the stance is also pretty weak in neutral.
@@champ147963 just randomly duck and launch bro, nice advice
most mentally sane alyssa mane
this alisa player playstyle is the perfect reason why i hate this character
TMM super sick performance dude . I faced an Alisa just like 3 hours ago playing at Fighter rank which is relatively low compared to Tekken god . anyway I am sure he wasn't as good at knowledge checking as this guy but still was super annoying and to begin he got like three win streak against me then I just started playing better and wining 50 precent of the matches something like this and I was so able to tell how much of a better basic player I was compared to him right away cause he was just playing circus . and of course as soon as I started winning most of the matches he quit .
The reason might be their playing with a fast food wi-fi
Bruh I vomit at this. I'm so proud of getting my Alisa to Fujin but seeing him play like this at that rank... nah I can't fucking watch this
I’m surprised, as a very casual, careless Tekken player who plays once every year, no one has ever said she’s a brain dead character. So i’ll go ahead and say it; Alisa’s a very braindead character 🤷🏻 and this video right here just shows how hellish and boring it is to play against her.
Dude if you think Alisa's brain dead she's nothing compared to Paul, Kunimitsu, Noctis, and a bunch more other top tier characters with dumbass damage and no brainer one button mash combos.
@@chrisprobablyananimator5082 noctis is not top tier bro
@@ibrahimDagoat786 still brain dead bro.
You have a combo string by pressing 1
@@ibrahimDagoat786 the point is, being MORE BRAIN DEAD than Alisa.
Also a lot of top tiers are brain dead. Just saying
@@chrisprobablyananimator5082 true
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who runs into toxic alisa online
i guess some people just really like undressing their waifus in this game uh?
scrups
Man I just can’t handle Alisa, both the character and the players are such a pain she’s so cringe
Alisa players are digisexuals idc lol
I think you mean Josie.
He's Persian that the reason of he's bad connection 😅
همه جا بخاطر نت تخمی شناسایی می شیم
1:26 OMG 😳🤯
this is the state of ranked, people who are only looking to win by any means possible. no sportsmanship, no improvement, and certainly no fun, only ego and bullshit.
just do players matches.
7:30 on male characters df2, on females 2,2 for stand up
Bless us with some more ORAs in the upcoming vids :D reminds me of your old noctis days
As an Alisa main, this makes me sick
I don't like the hate around this character, but jeez man, you really can't defend players like this
cant wait for both of these characters back in tekken 8! .....
No ss, no kbd, no iwr execution, constantly whiffing, doesnt even know the optimal staples. "legit TK", yeah. This guy's real rank is around Warrior-Vindicator.
That's pc tekken for you
Nothing specific in this Alisa, they guy been really pissing with a lot of knowledge checks. He doesn't have very bad fundamentals but prefer to outplay oppos seems with a check and if they don't react do it over and over.
+70 respect for main man rematching a 3 bar alisa shit
Alisa doesnt really do well with crap connection.
@@MasterVili fun fact you've been on TH-cam for as long as I've been alive
@@MasterVili but to counter that argument she has a snake edge and if some plays really gimmicky with lag it makes it way harder for the opponent to punish her ducking strings side walking etc. She isn't the best character to play with lag but she does pretty well
@@mrblueshark9111 She has the worst snake edge in the game lol. It's slow and she barely gets any dmg from it.
@@MasterVili Nah it's law. Her one is 27f laws is 28f. Laws doesn't launch her one does so that's not even subject for me to say alisas in better.
Edit: laws does high crush but alisas low crushes that's when you can start adding opinion into it.
I really think they should remove all of these cheese moves and characters in tekken 8 and stick to what really fighting game should be there is no problem having broken characters but not cheese and cheap moves and characters that ruins all the fun
So basicly remove 80 % of the roster and 50 % of the remaining characters movelists. Not that great of an idea, dont you think. We would lose so many unique and interesting characters that it simply wouldnt be Tekken anymore. As much as I find it annoying to be killed by cheesy bullshit. In the end that basicly is Tekken. It is a deeply dishonest game.
If you are not playing one of maybe five honest characters in the game, your character would be removed. I dont know man, feels a little hypocritical.
@@EddieMorphling I get your idea man and I respect it but how dying from cheesy movies are fun ? , and i know tekken is an dishonest game but why keeping it dishonest what prevents a great franchise to be greater ? and i didn’t say that i hate tekken i really like the game
@@abdullahalothman2609 But take Yoshi for example. This character basicly is cheesy, gimmick bullshit The Character. How are you going to make him an honest character ? He is dishonest and cheesy by design and I dont think anything can change that. So you would basicly need to remove him and I dont think that you think this is a good idea.
I get where you are coming from man and while I agree that Tekken 7 has too much stuff in characters movelists, I personally dont think that removing the cheese and gimmicks would make it a better game.
For me personally its this huge freedom that makes Tekken so unique.
@@EddieMorphling spot on!!
Noctis is hella overrated character. No matter how easy he is, once u reach emperor, everyone kicks ur ass
HellaScrupMan
14:58, 19:23 salty laugh incoming
the fake laghing is pretty cringe
@@ThisRemindsMeOfaJoke I also laugh like that sometimes, try it it feels good😂
...and in the rage art you can use both chainsaws AND rockets!1
thats a green or yellow rank alisa gameplay. alisa main myself. might be rank saving
Oh I agree !! Not a good display here by them.
played against him today and was at tekken king 200 wins later, he is not rank saving
played against him today and he was at tekken king 200 wins later, he is not rank saving
played against him today and he was at tekken king 200 wins later than in this vid, he is not rank saving
Ngl f2 would’ve helped tremendously in these matches
This is Iranian player for this reason main man get 3bar match distance is to much 🤣🤣🤣
I hate people that play like that. They’re a disgrace to the game.
I kinda agree but it's the amount of cheese there is in the game that creates this kind of player, and a huge part of getting good at Tekken is learning to beat this kind of playstyle.
hey dude you got chance i wasnt in mood that day
lmfao plugger
So this is the reason everyone hates on me online for just playing a character i like
Noctis!!
Guys can anyone tell me what ost he’s listening to this time?
someone should tell main man about noctis f 2
its an actual godsend against spam
Sheesh, even after all these wins he quits like that. I don't have the patience to play tekken online these days, the loadings and pluggers are baffling.
Because the alpha elitist honest character Alisa allows the player to do so mailman
To be fair you are playing Noctis, who tf knows that matchup
Anyone know the name of the song at 8:00 it's on the tip of my brain and it's killing me.
Some stage music from Tekken 5
What is the name of the character TMM plays?
Noctis
I wonder same here
I've played vs this Alisa. Didn't rage on me though.
Why are playing like red ranks?
Not to sound dramatic, but I always wonder what players like this think they are. Like does this Alisa player look at their rank and think theyre actually good?
Whats the throwbreak alisa head gift
@clxxd999 thanks
I hate both these characters ;)
we all do mainman xd
Man, playing such a trash character and then crying when you get downloaded 😕 Alisa is a character where you don't have to make any decisions, you just hit the opponent from whatever range you want and get out of any pressure by pressing buttons
Yeah no lol. Feng and Xiaoyu for example is what you might be looking for.
I unfortunately fell out of love with Tekken 7. I still love the franchise and the lore, but I just cant stand the cheese anymore. I try to play patient, it's almost like anyone can be cheese. I experience nothing but anger and frustration, even in winning I just get a relief. The game is not fun anymore for me. I'm just gonna have to go into tekken 8 with a whole new perspective. I try to learn Steve and get better just to get smoked by people who just do the same move and mix it up over and over. Party spammers with no defense. The game is a cesspool of shit now.
I think you need to take a break from the game lol
lol fake laughing
Get scalped
I commented like Max alisa player IQ level
I can't play players like that for long I'm always trying to learn how to counter their bs but it drives me insane and I rage