The ONLY Video You Need to CRACK Watercolor Painting!

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  • @paintingandchocolate
    @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Learn more about the lighthouse masterclass here : bit.ly/3AKIIBS

    • @monahli1597
      @monahli1597 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Catchy title with a promise that really would be impossible to keep in the best case scenario.. it’s a commercial for a class. Not a bad thing if you are looking for a class.
      You’re a very good artist! You don’t need to make up BS video titles with magic tricks specially you as a great artist would know better 😊😊😊😊

  • @aprildegele1510
    @aprildegele1510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Both! I can get messy but also create details. I have aphantasia, which means I can't imagine an apple in my hand if my life depended on it. I can't do guided meditation because all I see is black. However, I've been an artist since I was 18 months old. I won a state art ribbon when I was 8. I qualified to enter an art program at 11 but they wouldn't take me because I had to be 14. My art is done by gut. I understand shapes, shadows, and highlights because the brain knows when something is off. If I look at something I've done and something is wrong, I can find it and correct it ... but I can't plan it or take it out of my head. I draw by "feel" and instinct.
    I'm trying to learn to paint more loosely, but it's difficult because my brain goes for the details, which makes some works seem over processed. No matter how loose I intend the painting to be, I always get lost in the details, especially with pens.
    Trying, so thank you for sharing! The more I understand about loose painting, the easier it gets .... as long as I can leave it alone when it's done.

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You will improve with this awreness about how to fix this and practice 🙌 thank you for sharing about you!

    • @wellersong7
      @wellersong7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      May I see a piece of your work. I wonder if your art is uniquely favoured by aphantasia or whether there are any distinct features that correlate to your art work and the condition

    • @wellersong7
      @wellersong7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No pressure as I know showing work can be a private issue so excuse my directness. I am happy for only a comment on this and you don’t need to show

    • @sylhayes8152
      @sylhayes8152 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very very good

    • @jparker1901
      @jparker1901 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Please share some of your works with us, I’d love to see your talent

  • @focalheropennan
    @focalheropennan 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I loved this tutorial, you made it look effortless, but i know that there's a huge amount of learned skills going on there. Really inspiring!

  • @bizzybee852
    @bizzybee852 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Neat! And this was one of the best teaching videos I have seen. And believe me when I say, I have seen a lot of painting tutorials over the past 5-7 years.

  • @CynthiaTrombley-jz9dh
    @CynthiaTrombley-jz9dh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Using 100% cotton paper really does make a difference. A teacher of intermediate watercolour recommended artist grade paints but never mentioned the importance of the paper. Consequently I started out using pulp paper. It dried almost instantly, and the paint was not absorbed by the paper. It just sat on the top. When trying to glaze another layer over the dried pigment the fresh layer just lifted up the dried layer resulting in a homogenious mixture of the two colours. Also- I found that the cheaper paper pilled similarly to ply/cotton fabric.

    • @pb4life597
      @pb4life597 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The paper matters more than the paint.

  • @janmariebaldwin1415
    @janmariebaldwin1415 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was so very helpful, thank you. I have focal hand dystonia after years of trying to be neat and have perfect lines, so now it’s messy all the way, as this relaxes my hand so I can paint again 😊

  • @DesireeNotley
    @DesireeNotley 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mostly working neat, I also love the realism in your picture of the lighthouse.

  • @madelinegrudens
    @madelinegrudens 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That was a fantastic tutorial with so much useful information and great technical tips. I learned so much, and I'm going to give this a try!! Thanks for sharing your talent and experience, I really appreciate it very much!

  • @carmennavar6961
    @carmennavar6961 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Very good basics techniques

  • @gerardoconnor4278
    @gerardoconnor4278 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Super teaching video. Thank you for sharing your master-craft skills.

  • @mikelkirby2791
    @mikelkirby2791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    NEAT. Thank you for another watercolor tutorial showing your process and explaining why you paint how you do. And yes, white gouache helps make those highlight POP, especially the fine mist of the crashing waves.

  • @VincentGalbo
    @VincentGalbo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, that was incredible.

  • @alyjiyu
    @alyjiyu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I keep coming back to your tutorials because your precise explanations have made a significant impact on loosening me up.
    Watercolor is challenging, due to my perfectionist brain's proclivity to obsess over minutiæ.
    As a self-taught artist, comfortably facile with colored pencils and photo-realism, I decided to try mastering a more difficult-to-control media...
    while unlearning the various approaches that stymied artistic flowering in the past.
    I come to your channel and find inspiration...
    Suddenly, it's hours later, and have to tear myself from the studio to eat or I'll lose track of time hyperfocused on an experimental project that turned into a big fun new discovery!
    Thank You for lifting up other artists to a higher level of freedom of expression.🙏💫

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for sharing about your journey too,.happy painting 🙂

    • @alyjiyu
      @alyjiyu หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paintingandchocolate
      Very welcome🌺

  • @suemuehlman7701
    @suemuehlman7701 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow! Just wow! Love your videos

  • @cheryl6564
    @cheryl6564 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m definitely messy! That’s why I always revert to street sketch watercolor and ink. You have been very helpful with the tips in this video. I’ll be back

  • @kmac2014
    @kmac2014 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow! Thank you for sharing.

  • @siddharthpanchal718
    @siddharthpanchal718 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The splatters at the end were perfectly controlled. Great lesson.

  • @rl4424
    @rl4424 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video! Thank you 😊❤

  • @shoelesstraveler
    @shoelesstraveler 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You’re artwork is fantastic! Truly great

  • @FreeSpiritinLightandLove
    @FreeSpiritinLightandLove 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Messy and abstract so I plan on using your excellent information and scoot just a little towards abstract. I am looking forward to experimenting. Thank you for an excellent video!!

  • @cousinjesse4450
    @cousinjesse4450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Messy would describe it but I’ve only been painting for a year and half so still learning at this point. I hope to paint more of an impressionist style but I love your paintings. I believe realism is needed to create an impressionist subject. I guess really the journey is about finding your personal style hope to do that someday. I am finishing up some courses now but will definitely check the masters class. Thank you for taking the time to share your exceptional talent.

  • @jamesduncan578
    @jamesduncan578 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So far I have been messy, but as I progress, and slow down, I get neater. Especially with the details.

  • @sowmyakarthik817
    @sowmyakarthik817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both actually...
    I love to paint realistic paintings and explore more while painting.Thanks for the wonderful tutorial dear francoise.🤗🥰🥰🥰

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Sowmya! It's always nice to see you here ! 🙂

  • @45salf
    @45salf หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the contrast of colors. Your demo helps a lot!

  • @marcyzimmerman2325
    @marcyzimmerman2325 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful... I was surprised how you applied water to the paper and worked it and worked it. I would have thought the paper would deteriorate but I'm going to try that myself now. Thanks for many helpful tips and inspiration.

  • @barbifreedle8210
    @barbifreedle8210 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do messy and neat depending on what I'm painting. This painting is beautifully done! I love how you made the waves pop out!

  • @LAMB-w8h
    @LAMB-w8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You are so incredibly talented, inspiring and encouraging!

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you ! I appreciate the kind words 🙂

  • @lilislate5765
    @lilislate5765 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great information...your lighthouse looks amazing!

  • @SallyByrd
    @SallyByrd หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am in the advanced beginner category. I have been very 'tight' [AKA NEAT], but with instruction & practice, I am becoming more 'messy' which is my desire to master both!
    This tutorial was easy to understand and added much to my grasp of watercolor technique! Much appreciated!!!!

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am glad it served its purpose well for you, thank you for letting me know

  • @giovannifurnari8668
    @giovannifurnari8668 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love ❤️ this!
    I’m a combination of messy and neat.

  • @seanmaguire7038
    @seanmaguire7038 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched your class on the lighthouse. Absolutely fabulous and truly inspirational. I was a neat painter but found it to frustrating. Now moved onto be more messy and happier painter. Thanks for the class which seems to me to be a perfect balance between messy & neat. Bravo 👏😁

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing your feedback here, I am glad to know this helps!

  • @colleenmcchesney1482
    @colleenmcchesney1482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ohh wow 🤯 I love these lighthouses! I am definitely a Neat loose painter. Thanks so much for sharing this information of tips with us. Just what I needed to learn.

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm glad to hear this helps! Nowadays I also would label myself neat loose 😁

  • @juaumbr
    @juaumbr 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely loved it thank you

  • @dcartspress
    @dcartspress 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is the kind of video that must be SAVED! thank you so much for sharing your techniques, much much appreciated

  • @CynthiaTrombley-jz9dh
    @CynthiaTrombley-jz9dh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I learned a great deal from this tutorial. I have been working on a sunset painting which could have greatly benefited from som wet-in-eet looseness as a whole in transitioning from one section to another. I also painted some pet portraits which pleased me greatly, however I had not painted the background as part of my process. This left me with great anxiety as I strughled to figure out how to paint a background around the subject without hard lines. Your technique of loosely painting around the subject must be the answer! Thank you very much for sharing your process!

  • @laurenfromdownsouth
    @laurenfromdownsouth 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That painting is beautiful!!!

  • @powerrite
    @powerrite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your calm slow presentation is inspiring thank u 🙏

  • @gigiartstudiowithartistvir3919
    @gigiartstudiowithartistvir3919 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful painting with pretty lost and found edges.

  • @lynnbradshaw6279
    @lynnbradshaw6279 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I needed this - thanks for your really clear explanation.

  • @anjapinkau3737
    @anjapinkau3737 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! I love your painting and I admire your style. Very impressive! Thank you for sharing!
    I'd say I'm more on the messy side.

  • @claritzairosario68
    @claritzairosario68 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Love it so much!❤❤❤ sometimes I love to painting messy and neatly when it's necessary. And when you work on wet on wet, the artwork turn so magical! That's why I love watercolors so much! Thank you fir this tips❤😊

  • @davidwendell6471
    @davidwendell6471 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice job with lost edges! Awesome painting process

  • @gingerpie1978
    @gingerpie1978 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is beautiful!! Love Love Love it!! Thanks so much for sharing

  • @jocelyneturcotte3419
    @jocelyneturcotte3419 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow thank you for all this info I will watch it again and again. That painting is just amazing 🤩

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent 👌...I feel you are right blend of wet on dry and wet on wet ..my biggest frustration in watercolor is SPEED! I hate speed in art...with wet on wet...could slow down ...like Louise De Masi style

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand, it's a bit stressful at first. Paper and habit are key.

  • @anngeere9799
    @anngeere9799 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m messy. But find yours a more fabulous way
    And I like your vibrancy which is not something I do
    Love discovering you! And so love love your work!

  • @PhysioTae869
    @PhysioTae869 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love love love this, an amazing teaching video

  • @Nasauniverse001
    @Nasauniverse001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love listening to you, and the techniques too.

  • @lululatortue8229
    @lululatortue8229 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Merci beaucoup pour ce tutoriel, votre aquarelle est forte, c'est superbe

  • @disclosedascunardian2328
    @disclosedascunardian2328 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Dear you excel at this, thank you thank you

  • @paulinasidor9523
    @paulinasidor9523 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So beautiful! ❤️ I'm more on a messy side 😊🎨

  • @tombarrettart
    @tombarrettart หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed the lesson. I like being both messy and neat, but need more practice with the controlled messiness. This video was a good start.

  • @carolineperes2073
    @carolineperes2073 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this video. Loved your presentation, soooo talented. Thank you for sharing!😊

  • @ChantelleArts
    @ChantelleArts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is brilliant, so many incredible tips 😊😊

  • @rainagamingmagex2195
    @rainagamingmagex2195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your word Missy control that's kind of what I do in my paintings thank you very much for this video I have a Facebook group for art that I'll be sharing this video with. I also subscribed to you beautiful work

  • @pitscoop
    @pitscoop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I live this technique, thank you for sharing, would love to hear more about your masterclass!

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Teri, in the description of this video, you'll find the masterclass link and everything is explained there, the photos of the projects are also displayed.
      I hope this helped!

  • @psocretes8183
    @psocretes8183 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you that was excelent. I am currently using a very restricted colour palate as I think the image holds together better. The only critique i would make is that the blue at the top of your painting didn't use a big enough brush, it's too streaky but you are currently my watercolour painting hero. Thank you for sharing your techniques

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you ! I bought a larger brush right after 😁

  • @claudiaypaz
    @claudiaypaz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Messy. Beautiful wave splashes. Thank you! this was very helpful.

  • @Pamela-pm9hn
    @Pamela-pm9hn 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing. Subscribed.

  • @Nancy-ii5yo
    @Nancy-ii5yo หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was great! Thank you for the lesson.

  • @monikaspurtacz505
    @monikaspurtacz505 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the crashing waves and rust on the lighthouse

  • @kathyphifer7546
    @kathyphifer7546 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neat. Extremely so, sadly. I am learning a lot from your channel. Beautiful Lighthouse painting😻

  • @jonavin2361
    @jonavin2361 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A really great tutorial, thanks so much! X

  • @pixiesmama8807
    @pixiesmama8807 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is gorgeous!

  • @olf777f
    @olf777f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely, love watching it become

  • @jenniferherter1844
    @jenniferherter1844 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Francoise's courses are highly recommended. If you want to learn about watercolor painting quickly and effectively
    and want to improve your skills, this is the right place for you. Francoise is a master at explaining all the tricks in an understandable and friendly way. There is a lot on offer in her courses, which is really worthwhile. She also helps you individually when you write to her

  • @shmuelhirsh
    @shmuelhirsh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Francoise, thank you so much for sharing your inspiring work and advice!
    I appreciate this so much! You are a wonderful artist! God bless! ~

  • @susancook1617
    @susancook1617 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, fabulous painting, thank you for sharing 😊

  • @hannahcrumley3103
    @hannahcrumley3103 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So beautiful!!! Thank you for sharing your techniques!

  • @vikmat5145
    @vikmat5145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! You are a treasure

  • @artscience9981
    @artscience9981 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thanks for your generosity in sharing your knowledge, and for all the preparation you must have put in to prepare this video. Very helpful! BTW I think I tend toward messy, but there are some subjects that require me to be neat.

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's great you can do bpth neat / messy it will be valiable

  • @karenannc
    @karenannc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Messy!!!!!!!! :) This is exactly the style I love!!! Loose realism.

  • @rsa4510
    @rsa4510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed your video. Thanks. When you were putting in your washes, I think it would be useful to have some way of knowing how much time elapses. I suppose I'm saying I would like to watch the uncut version of you painting that lighthouse picture. I struggle with bigger washes, so I'm super interested.

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, it gives me ideas for another video i can make to address this in depth.

  • @bryanmannoia8410
    @bryanmannoia8410 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well taught, thank you.

  • @helenduplessis9820
    @helenduplessis9820 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very very very informative!! ❤

  • @susanhains556
    @susanhains556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    perfect!!! Love this!

  • @ladyhollman9534
    @ladyhollman9534 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Messy …I tell myself I’m making art not blueprints. 😊 Also, I’ll put browns on yellow & orange in a heartbeat, looks great. No better layer than burnt sienna and yellow ochre.
    Great painting & information. Thank you.

  • @paintingtheskykingdom9005
    @paintingtheskykingdom9005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I tend to be on the messy side. It’s always about balance. Also knowing when to put down the brush, and stopping especially when you get to the point where you are painting and forget to pay attention!

  • @antheakaranasos2047
    @antheakaranasos2047 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a lovely video!
    Messy for me - with a touch of detail!
    I love painting wet into wet & seeing the surprise unfold.
    I’ve been practicing to get my skills back after a decade. I learned with larger brushes from Ron Ranson books & videos when he was still with us. He pushed for a very limited palette, just as you mentioned, & lots of loose wild skies, rivers, lakes & trees using big brushes- the hake was his signature brush.
    My practice now is to prepare to paint a sunset seascape as a wedding gift for my son. It’s from a photo of the place in Italy where he proposed ♥️🌅
    Question:
    I watched you pour water onto the paper & spend a lot of time moving the water around. Did you add more water? Based on how much time you spent pouring & brushing water, it seems like you had a goal of extreme saturation. From what you said throughout the early part of the video while painting wet into wet, it seems I might need to focus on getting my paper extra wet for best wet into wet results.
    🌸 Gorgeous video with excellent tips & explanations on why you make your choices! I’ll look into your courses!
    Many thanks!

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! Yes, I add a lot of water and I take time to make it sink into the paper fibres 🙂

    • @antheakaranasos2047
      @antheakaranasos2047 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paintingandchocolate I thought so!! Thank you for confirming this!
      I’ve watched 3 online teachers who give tutorials that appeal to my style of watercolor (loose, larger brushes, + wet into wet). The amount of water on the paper is never fully explained. I know it makes a difference from my own experience but don’t know enough yet to get it right for the type of paper & style of wash + paint I desire.
      Thanks for this! I’ll keep watching your videos & will consider taking a class with you when my life is a little slower ☺️

  • @davidcostello8152
    @davidcostello8152 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely to watch this work come together. Quick question if i could. Do you pre stretch your paper? Or does the better quality mean you dont have problems with buckling?

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This was on a pad glued on all sides. It helps!

  • @dogwhiskers8
    @dogwhiskers8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neat. Beautiful painting btw.

  • @vupps
    @vupps 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am messy in my paintings, although i would like to be neat! Amazing painting!

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think for watercolor it's a good thing to be 🙂 maybe see how the messiness translates and what's causing it to improve it.

  • @Rene974
    @Rene974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent advice and tutorial. New subscriber.

  • @hardybeverly
    @hardybeverly 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m pretty at the end of the painting. Use wet on wet at the beginning.

  • @janetdoyle4222
    @janetdoyle4222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like both ..l love you . Just beautudul teaching thank you .. ❤

  • @juliehopkins5784
    @juliehopkins5784 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, beautiful painting. Thank you for sharing your tips. neat/messy I am not sure. 🤔

  • @eleashaghot
    @eleashaghot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m neat. I need to work on my need for things to be perfect.

  • @jodywho6696
    @jodywho6696 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful 😊

  • @Taka_Takata
    @Taka_Takata 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is excellent and very tempting. Too bad I must first get reacquainted with the basics after a break of almost eight years (and I didn't get far the first time!). I will practice and maybe take Francoise's "Landscape for Beginners" course first, but I'll keep this one in mind, that's for sure!

  • @creafish2271
    @creafish2271 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neat...perfectionist!

  • @nancydavidson4899
    @nancydavidson4899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very useful. Neat! But working on it 😊

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad the video will help then as I was like it too

  • @blancaanderson8616
    @blancaanderson8616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m neat thank you for sharing your Knowledge

  • @anneedmunds9025
    @anneedmunds9025 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am a neat artist and person but am trying to be more of emotional artist. Your painting is great how i would love to paint. I will give it a go.

    • @paintingandchocolate
      @paintingandchocolate  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love this, emotional artist, I try to lean towards that too but as you know it's not easy.

  • @mindinmotion4615
    @mindinmotion4615 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks.❤

  • @eibbedmarl
    @eibbedmarl หลายเดือนก่อน

    So helpful- ive been stuck

  • @thepaintingportal
    @thepaintingportal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are a lot out there! 😮

  • @DoDayDem
    @DoDayDem หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fabulous

  • @ireneracic3095
    @ireneracic3095 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you for sharing. messy

  • @painter2000
    @painter2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bravo bravo bravo !!!!!!!!!

  • @nikibee70
    @nikibee70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Messy but occasionally the perfectionism kicks in.