I'm very interested to see how this works. I want to put a windlass in my X but all the ones I have seen require the chain to drop several feet before the top of the pile, so the anchor locker seemed too small for that. The plan to use PVC pipe to run the chain into the bilge is brilliant. So is the idea to run the wires in a separate PVC pipe inside the larger one. You have totally solved the problem that seemed impossible to me. I can save you some time with the polyester resin next time. It is called a laminating resin which means you do not have to wait for it to harden before laying more glass on top. Even once it hardens, wipe with acetone and it gets sticky and makes a chemical bond with the next layer. No sanding required between layers. There is a wax additive that you mix in for the last coat that causes it to harden completely. Layers without the wax remain chemically active so you can put down more layers without sanding. Epoxy is totally different and needs procedures like you describe.
Thank u for the tip about the resin i will definatly try this next time,i ran the 2nd pipe to run the wires down so the chain would not get caught up and to keep it dry as possible,i still need to paint the pvc pipe up to make it look like part of the boat in the v berth,Kindest regards Adrian
Love the video thank you! How has this held up over the past 4 years? I’m thinking of doing similar but would like to know if you have any regrets or if it’s continued to be great. Thanks !
Hello, and thanks for video. Exactly what I intend to install. But........ how do you deal with mud, seaweed , sand etc carried by rope and ( mainly) chain into bilges. Regards Luke.FNQ
gday m8,thank you for the question,i think i would connect a inline builge pump at the bow to wash the chain down as it comes up,i myself just get my wet/dry vac when i get home and vacum inside where the chain lies,i generally dont get to much in there though,i hope this helps
Thanks so much for your reply. I missed it, which is why I didn't respond till now. Further questions I have: What anchor do you use, and what length anchor rope and chain ( and ratio of rope to chain) Cheers, Luke
Thanks for the video - appreciate the trouble you took to make it. Do you have any concerns about compromising the hull integrity - ie. opening a hole directly into the hull from the fore deck, and potentially allowing water straight into the hull when taking a wave over the front? Also, it seems to me that by mounting the winch on the hatch, you will be placing all the strain from the anchor onto a couple of hinges and a catch. Do you have any concerns that you might have the hatch just rip right off the boat at some point?
gday Richard and thanks for the questions,i allowed the 90mm pipe to come up about 100mm inside the Anchor Locker then Fiberglassed it in with plenty of Matting and Resin which created a water tight seal,there is the hole in the Hatch where the chain goes threw but is quite small
i did a good test of the strenght of the hatch where the anchour was stuck deep in mud so i let the winch do the work,the bow dipped down at least 300mm before the anchor released and had no sign of falure but as i do when anchoring always apply a Snubber line as to not damage your winch as they recommend this,i hope this helps,Sorry in getting back to u so late,we sailed our Mac in the Surf to City Yaght Race and have been out for 5 days,this will be our next video,And we out Tack a 40ft Cat,We Even got an Indurance Award,I think u might grt a laugh out of this one,Happy Days
Looks good.How's it operating? How much chain do you have and what weight is the anchor? Interested as to how the hatch holds up with some use, thanks for the video looking at doing it on my Mac X .
gday paul the winch is going great,i have 98ft 0f 6mm chain and the anchor is a 27 pounder i did a test last weekend we where in 30kph winds gusts of up to 40,instead of motoring up on winch i let her do all the work,as we got up on her the bow dipped a good 100mm down then she released our of the mud,the hatch didnt move at all,over night i did put a snubber rope on her as it is not recomended to have strain on winch gear for extended time,we are very happy with the outcome,im glad our video helped u out,Thanks again Paul,Happy Days
I think if u look at the size of the bolts holding the winch to the hatch, that is what the winch manufacturer has identified as the engineered fastener requirement to hold the winch under load. If the hatch hinge bolts are smaller in diameter (which they absolutely are), then u are asking for a very nasty surprise, probably at the most inconvenient time! Maybe it would be prudent to rethink that fit up?
Gday Coopers,hope all is well,all the nuts and bolts came with the Winch,the only time i change things is if i need longer ones,my videos are always only a guide,Thank you
Gday Scott Welcome Aboard,I used rubber matting about 10mm thick,i used a truck mud flap which i had as i have a tipper so had a few laying around,definatly dont want the chain to rubb on the fiberglass as it would wear a mark in it,i folded the matt in half to create a v which worked well then a second matt on the flat overlapping,works a treat,i have now 40ft of chain and30ft of 6mm rope with a 27 pound anchor,i dragged once in 50knot gusts and never ever wanted to go through that again,this weekend we had stead 20 up 30 knot gusts rear anchored to the beach(so the kids can jump off)side on winds and she held,i was testing a diy bow spit so i didnt use a snubber line(A big no no generally)and she held like a champion,
Gday John i hope all is well,Im not sure of the Model number but if u jump onto Muir Winched Austrailia they will have a list of all there winches and distributers world wide,when i looked they have size of boat range,this one was suited up to 26ft,i figured that the mac is a lite weight boat so this would be fine,its worked perfertly even up through the sandy straits which have exstreamly strong tides,i gave Muirs a call directly and they where very helpful in every way,www.muir.com.au/ this is there link,all the best Adrian
I'm very interested to see how this works. I want to put a windlass in my X but all the ones I have seen require the chain to drop several feet before the top of the pile, so the anchor locker seemed too small for that. The plan to use PVC pipe to run the chain into the bilge is brilliant. So is the idea to run the wires in a separate PVC pipe inside the larger one. You have totally solved the problem that seemed impossible to me.
I can save you some time with the polyester resin next time. It is called a laminating resin which means you do not have to wait for it to harden before laying more glass on top. Even once it hardens, wipe with acetone and it gets sticky and makes a chemical bond with the next layer. No sanding required between layers. There is a wax additive that you mix in for the last coat that causes it to harden completely. Layers without the wax remain chemically active so you can put down more layers without sanding. Epoxy is totally different and needs procedures like you describe.
Thank u for the tip about the resin i will definatly try this next time,i ran the 2nd pipe to run the wires down so the chain would not get caught up and to keep it dry as possible,i still need to paint the pvc pipe up to make it look like part of the boat in the v berth,Kindest regards Adrian
Love the video thank you! How has this held up over the past 4 years? I’m thinking of doing similar but would like to know if you have any regrets or if it’s continued to be great. Thanks !
Hello, and thanks for video. Exactly what I intend to install. But........ how do you deal with mud, seaweed , sand etc carried by rope and ( mainly) chain into bilges. Regards Luke.FNQ
gday m8,thank you for the question,i think i would connect a inline builge pump at the bow to wash the chain down as it comes up,i myself just get my wet/dry vac when i get home and vacum inside where the chain lies,i generally dont get to much in there though,i hope this helps
Thanks so much for your reply. I missed it, which is why I didn't respond till now.
Further questions I have:
What anchor do you use, and what length anchor rope and chain ( and ratio of rope to chain)
Cheers,
Luke
Thanks for the video - appreciate the trouble you took to make it.
Do you have any concerns about compromising the hull integrity - ie. opening a hole directly into the hull from the fore deck, and potentially allowing water straight into the hull when taking a wave over the front?
Also, it seems to me that by mounting the winch on the hatch, you will be placing all the strain from the anchor onto a couple of hinges and a catch. Do you have any concerns that you might have the hatch just rip right off the boat at some point?
gday Richard and thanks for the questions,i allowed the 90mm pipe to come up about 100mm inside the Anchor Locker then Fiberglassed it in with plenty of Matting and Resin which created a water tight seal,there is the hole in the Hatch where the chain goes threw but is quite small
i did a good test of the strenght of the hatch where the anchour was stuck deep in mud so i let the winch do the work,the bow dipped down at least 300mm before the anchor released and had no sign of falure but as i do when anchoring always apply a Snubber line as to not damage your winch as they recommend this,i hope this helps,Sorry in getting back to u so late,we sailed our Mac in the Surf to City Yaght Race and have been out for 5 days,this will be our next video,And we out Tack a 40ft Cat,We Even got an Indurance Award,I think u might grt a laugh out of this one,Happy Days
Looks good.How's it operating? How much chain do you have and what weight is the anchor? Interested as to how the hatch holds up with some use, thanks for the video looking at doing it on my Mac X .
gday paul the winch is going great,i have 98ft 0f 6mm chain and the anchor is a 27 pounder i did a test last weekend we where in 30kph winds gusts of up to 40,instead of motoring up on winch i let her do all the work,as we got up on her the bow dipped a good 100mm down then she released our of the mud,the hatch didnt move at all,over night i did put a snubber rope on her as it is not recomended to have strain on winch gear for extended time,we are very happy with the outcome,im glad our video helped u out,Thanks again Paul,Happy Days
I think if u look at the size of the bolts holding the winch to the hatch, that is what the winch manufacturer has identified as the engineered fastener requirement to hold the winch under load. If the hatch hinge bolts are smaller in diameter (which they absolutely are), then u are asking for a very nasty surprise, probably at the most inconvenient time! Maybe it would be prudent to rethink that fit up?
Gday Coopers,hope all is well,all the nuts and bolts came with the Winch,the only time i change things is if i need longer ones,my videos are always only a guide,Thank you
Great video, thank you for taking the time to make it! I was wondering, did you do any reinforcing where the chain collects in the hull?
Gday Scott Welcome Aboard,I used rubber matting about 10mm thick,i used a truck mud flap which i had as i have a tipper so had a few laying around,definatly dont want the chain to rubb on the fiberglass as it would wear a mark in it,i folded the matt in half to create a v which worked well then a second matt on the flat overlapping,works a treat,i have now 40ft of chain and30ft of 6mm rope with a 27 pound anchor,i dragged once in 50knot gusts and never ever wanted to go through that again,this weekend we had stead 20 up 30 knot gusts rear anchored to the beach(so the kids can jump off)side on winds and she held,i was testing a diy bow spit so i didnt use a snubber line(A big no no generally)and she held like a champion,
what model number is that winch?
Gday John i hope all is well,Im not sure of the Model number but if u jump onto Muir Winched Austrailia they will have a list of all there winches and distributers world wide,when i looked they have size of boat range,this one was suited up to 26ft,i figured that the mac is a lite weight boat so this would be fine,its worked perfertly even up through the sandy straits which have exstreamly strong tides,i gave Muirs a call directly and they where very helpful in every way,www.muir.com.au/ this is there link,all the best Adrian