@@shinji_6 I wouldn't say that. Base Gogeta is stronger than SSB Goku and Vegeta from the Belly movie. Can't really say either of them have surpassed TOP MUI. But SSB Goku is reasonably weaker than his MUI level from the TOP. I'd say Base Gogeta is on par with MUI or just BARELY weaker. SSJ Gogeta is most DEFINITELY as strong or stronger than MUI Goku from the TOP, though.
The last part doesn't make sense since Gogeta is Goku's maximum power + Vegeta's maximum power, so if only Goku with his maximum power could, then base Gogeta surpasses him in everything.
@@spikergames4259 That is not true. In the Dbs Broly Gogeta movie it clearly says that it is a fusion between Vegeta and Goku plus an extra plis of power, Dbs is cannon and that movie too, therefore there is a cannon multiplier
@@spikergames4259 Although this plus is not confirmed, Goku's MUI was enough, so Vegeta's UE would be too, therefore those two added powers should be more than enough to defeat Jiren. And just in case we're talking at a point where Vegeta hasn't gotten his UE yet, the MUI and SSJBE would suffice as well.
I don't think Gogeta would've had a chance against Jiren -- MUI Goku is actually stronger. They would've used Gogeta if they thought he had a chance, Jiren let them do whatever they wanted, but they didn't do it since they didn't think he would be strong enough.
El Gogeta actual le gana en base a jiren por que la fusión multiplica el potencial de los usuarios osea multiplicaría el ultra ego y el ultra instinto en su 100%100 , y de ahí saldría el poder base entonces como Goku y jiren empataron en poder en su 100%100 significaría de Gogeta base humilla a jiren
@@yafthemorales9511 aún si se habla de la película, a gogeta solo le basta con el ssj1 o el ssj2 ya que en su estado base es muy superior a goku y vegeta blue ademas este goku y vegeta de la película seguian entrenando osea que ya eran mas fuertes que el goku y vegeta del torneo y tomando el multiplicador del goku y vegeta ssjblue de la película con gogeta ssj1 sería suficiente
@@Unknown-mo6ug gogeta base is minimun Goku max + Vegeta max So ssjb (Goku) and ssjbe (Vegeta) this makes gogeta base around 2 and 20 times stronger than ssjb Goku I took 11 because ssjbe un both anime and manga seems to be 10times stronger than ssjb so if base gogeta is 11 then a x50(ssj) is 550
@@Unknown-mo6ug and for the 11m is because imperfect blue is around 1m multiplier Since is just ssjg x50 whit alot of energy waste and ssjg is minimun x200k base so it's really 110m but the energy waste makes it 11m (in anime power scaling still 110m)
Jiren at full power is on par with base gogeta (dbs) or probably super Saiyan gogeta (dbs). It's a stalemate between base gogeta and full power jiren eventually base gogeta becoming the victor
Why they always do always do the incomplete forms of gogeta to give the person he's up against free wins and even so they aren't even gogeta they have different names, if your doing gogeta all forms put base gogeta correct fusion and so on till he reaches ssjbe aka the forms he clapped goku black ssj3 full power and hearts God killer form
jiren >>>>>> gogeta and gogeta ssj 1 and gogeta ssj 2 and gogeta SSJ 3 gogeta ssj god >>>>> jiren jiren full power >>>>>>>> gogeta ssj god gogeta ssj blue >>>>>>>> jiren full power
@@ZephiroX-GD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 De lejos el fanboy de Gogeta más estupido que he visto. Solo por decir que Jiren acaba facilmenre a Gogeta ssj automaticamente dices que uno es LGTB
Esta usando al Gogeta de la peli y ese solo tiene el ssj blue como base. Solo con el poder de unos blue en base ni de broma le alcanza para superar a Jiren.
@@ItachiUchiha-ur3ghla fusion suma los maximos poderes de los usuarios, por lo que seria el doble de fuerte que el blue y con el sjj seria 50 veces mas fuerte que eso, vegeto barre el piso con jiren con el sjj 2 que son 100 veces ese poder jajaja burro vuelve a primaria y naruto sin transformarse barre el piso con itachi, aparte de mid es sobrevalorado 😂😂😂
@@ZephiroX-GD Como siempre los fsns de la fusión usando multiplicaciones en vez de usar argumentos objetivos. Y si Naruto base>>>>>Itachi Pero que tienen que ver ellos aqui. "Burro vuelve a la primaria" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Solo por decir que Jiren le gana a Gogeta base necesito ir a la primaria De lejos el comentario más ridiculo que he leido.
@@WichardMMSilva Jiren supera a un dios destructor y tu piensas que Gogeta solo en god le gana. Tremenda infravaloracion le das a los dioses destructores.
@@brolyssjlegendario5071 idai? Belmond é um dos mais fracos hakaishins e Gogeta apenas na forma base é muito mais forte que Goku e Vegeta blue e se você não acredita, é só ver Vegetto vs Boo, onde Vegetto base mostrou ser MUITO mais forte que Goku e Vegeta juntos. Então se consideramos o aumento de 50x do ssj, isso faz do Gogeta ssj>>Goku blue kaioken 20x e Vegeta blue evolution. E o ssj god é MUITO mais forte que o ssj, não tem nem comparação, então Jiren seria amassado
DBS( non Cannon) if he Used SSB he can't beat Jiren in Top Arc In DBS Movie Gogeta Never defeat Jiren with base and SSJ1,SSJ2,SSJ3 and SSG He must use SSB for beating Jiren And You Gave IQ to Gogeta was Wrong 💀
In fact that's wrong, Gogeta could beat Jiren without using normal Super Saiyan. This is because Gogeta = UE full power Vegeta + MUI full power Goku, therefore, if Goku MUI could against Jiren, then Gogeta could easily surpass Jiren in his base state.
@@ultravegito4094 So in that case it depends on whether we're talking about the anime or the manga, because if it's about the manga, Gogeta would still have the base state left over, while in the anime it would be different. In the anime *maybe* only *maybe* Gogeta would need at most an SSJ 2. Due to the multiplier of the transformation and Gogeta's power, should be left over.
Goku and vegeta did not fuse in the tournament or they would have won when it was the arc in which Jigen and hit came to help I think and they fused Jigen said why did u not use this in the tournament nad vegeta said because he did not want to fuse with goku
My question is if gogeta base Is stronger then goku vegeta base fork how come gogeta didn't one shot broly in base? Didn't goku have mui at the time it was after the t.o.p arc
@@gregkareem9824 Goku couldn't use mui so it doesn't count for the power of Gogeta, maximum they could use for the fusion's power was perfected ssj blue
gogeta is very underrated so heres why bace gogeta is 10x stronger than super saying bluekioken x20 goku ssj gogeta is stronger than hit with no rules who is stronger than supersaying blue kioken x30 all the other forms are at the same if not stronger than black freiza
What? Kaioken x30 doesn't even exist kaioken's limit is x20 and even then Hit is weaker than kaioken x10. Yeah base gogeta is stronger than ssjb but saying that it's x10 times more powerful is too much. And since when gogeta is underrated? I'm pretty sure most people are aware of how extremely powerful he is
in fact veggeto Black goku arc using the final kame (manga) was already as strong if not stronger than beerus and in DBS Broly goku says that he thinks that broly is stronger than beerus so ssjb gogeta (movie) is > beerus
Tf is this? Broly movie Gogeta gets slapped by current Goku, current Vegeta, and Granola. And scale "Gogeta ssjb evolition " Don't use CC Gogeta cause that shit is non cannon.
Gogeta will always take battle iq and skill.
Yup
Nah, jiren is like 200.000 years old and it's a superhero so he's always fighting new villains
@@acelnikitta4625 Source: trust me bro 💀
This channel is whole Cap
Even Goku or vegeta alone
Following the logic of the fusion, I think that base Gogeta is capable of defeating Jiren with maximum power and at most using the super Saiyan
simon
Mo, look at this
Gogeta base < ssjbkkx20 goku < jiren surpressed < ssj gogeta < ui 3rd sign goku < jiren 100% < mui goku => lb jiren < ssjb gogeta
did bro really just say base gogeta can defeat mui jiren 💀💀
@@dripku Base gogeta is stronger then mui
@@shinji_6 I wouldn't say that. Base Gogeta is stronger than SSB Goku and Vegeta from the Belly movie. Can't really say either of them have surpassed TOP MUI. But SSB Goku is reasonably weaker than his MUI level from the TOP. I'd say Base Gogeta is on par with MUI or just BARELY weaker. SSJ Gogeta is most DEFINITELY as strong or stronger than MUI Goku from the TOP, though.
Imagine Gogeta as a permanent fusion
F for zenosama
imagine gogeta as a single mortal
We cant see goku or vegeta anymore
W edit
He gave cosmology to gogeta 💀
bro LMAOO
POV: of when you don’t know what cosmology is lmao no offense too the creator ofc
@@runin12 what is it
Epic
Epic
Epic
Can you do Gogito vs all Gods?
transforming dosent give you battle iq and skill, gogeta gets it all the way
Ye but older/younger versions have different battle iq and skill
@@FelixVersus true
El edit es muy bueno!, Imagínense el gogeta actual ya con la forma base arrasaria con jiren Full power
Man el Gogeta (actual) en Base se destroza a Jiren full poder con un dedo
The only cap was he gave IQ and baltteiq to jiren
Fax
Jiren is smarter than gogeta but BIQ goes to gogeta differently
@@Skyee940 yes
@@Skyee940 The IQ of gogeta is so big
He created new tecniches without train and no, that's not BIQ
@@dan69. even tho he created new techniques doesn’t mean he’s smarter than jiren and gogeta has more experience with BIQ
Gogeta all forms vs vegitto all forms pls
0:25 Jiren Praise The Sun
That attack was able to destroy universe
@@Divine-DeviL we do not care, take a joke
What song is used?
song?
edit: what version of the song is this?
I got no time x my ordinary life
Name music?
What’s the music name?
audio link?
Name music
The last part doesn't make sense since Gogeta is Goku's maximum power + Vegeta's maximum power, so if only Goku with his maximum power could, then base Gogeta surpasses him in everything.
there is no cannon fusion multiplier
@@spikergames4259 That is not true. In the Dbs Broly Gogeta movie it clearly says that it is a fusion between Vegeta and Goku plus an extra plis of power, Dbs is cannon and that movie too, therefore there is a cannon multiplier
@@latrixx_ yes,but that plus of power doesn't have a confirmed number for it.
@@spikergames4259 ;Yes? The fusion adds the maximum power of both.
@@spikergames4259 Although this plus is not confirmed, Goku's MUI was enough, so Vegeta's UE would be too, therefore those two added powers should be more than enough to defeat Jiren. And just in case we're talking at a point where Vegeta hasn't gotten his UE yet, the MUI and SSJBE would suffice as well.
song?
Mi compa el inteligente
I don't think Gogeta would've had a chance against Jiren -- MUI Goku is actually stronger. They would've used Gogeta if they thought he had a chance, Jiren let them do whatever they wanted, but they didn't do it since they didn't think he would be strong enough.
FAX
black goku vs el jreeper
El Gogeta actual le gana en base a jiren por que la fusión multiplica el potencial de los usuarios osea multiplicaría el ultra ego y el ultra instinto en su 100%100 , y de ahí saldría el poder base entonces como Goku y jiren empataron en poder en su 100%100 significaría de Gogeta base humilla a jiren
Ejem esta hablando de la pelicula no el actual
@@yafthemorales9511 That's why he said current sherlock.
@@yafthemorales9511 aún si se habla de la película, a gogeta solo le basta con el ssj1 o el ssj2 ya que en su estado base es muy superior a goku y vegeta blue ademas este goku y vegeta de la película seguian entrenando osea que ya eran mas fuertes que el goku y vegeta del torneo y tomando el multiplicador del goku y vegeta ssjblue de la película con gogeta ssj1 sería suficiente
@@titopain860 GOKU>JIREN
POR LO TANTO
GOGETA BASE>JIREN
@@elgatocrack9823
No Gogeta en base de la peli de Broly solo toma el ssj blue como base.
Asi que no Gogeta necesita minimo el god para ganar a Jiren
What app you be using?
filmora not the best app but it works
@@FelixVersus did you buy filmora or modded if modded can you tell me how to download it
bought
I never knew changing forms gave iq
In fusion case it does
what is the name of this song
black goku vs sabbac
Fax that Gogeta solos jiren
Broly (All Forms) vs Jiren (All Forms)
battle IQ goes to GOGETA
He gave for Gogeta bro, stop being blind
Cómo se llama la cancion
MUI is stronger than SSB Gogeta.
cap
ssj gogeta minimun 550 times blue whitout any fusion multiplier what makes you think that MUI is more than 11m times goku ssjb?
@@tomax9863 Source for any of the multipliers you used?
@@Unknown-mo6ug gogeta base is minimun Goku max + Vegeta max
So ssjb (Goku) and ssjbe (Vegeta) this makes gogeta base around 2 and 20 times stronger than ssjb Goku
I took 11 because ssjbe un both anime and manga seems to be 10times stronger than ssjb so if base gogeta is 11 then a x50(ssj) is 550
@@Unknown-mo6ug and for the 11m is because imperfect blue is around 1m multiplier
Since is just ssjg x50 whit alot of energy waste and ssjg is minimun x200k base so it's really 110m but the energy waste makes it 11m (in anime power scaling still 110m)
CC Goku vs CC Vegeta all forms please
YOU FORGOT GOD KILLER
Fanmade bruh
The moment you realize that gogeta was able to use (debatable)
Actual Jiren > Actual Gogeta SSJB
the fat one isnt gogeta its veku
Is it me or is Jiren underrated
Jiren at full power is on par with base gogeta (dbs) or probably super Saiyan gogeta (dbs).
It's a stalemate between base gogeta and full power jiren eventually base gogeta becoming the victor
Transforming doesn’t increase your battle iq
Yes, but kaioken does
what is this song someone needs to tell me
fnaf 4 living tombstone
@@JSG417 actually i discovered its that mixed with 'my original life', sorry for wasting ur time
who wins? Goku kid vs Fat Gogeta
Por cierto el poder actual de gogeta y vegito base son de los ultra instinto de goku y vegeta bueno por lo menos en el manga🧐🧐🧐
Gogeta base is enough for Jiren FP (full power)
Goku MUI>>>>>Jiren FP
Gogeta base>>>>Goku MUI and Vegeta UE
gogeta anime
What since when?
A bit of a stretch but yeah gogeta is a lot stronger
Goku mui just barely >Jiren fp
Pov when you just watch dbs broly
Why they always do always do the incomplete forms of gogeta to give the person he's up against free wins and even so they aren't even gogeta they have different names, if your doing gogeta all forms put base gogeta correct fusion and so on till he reaches ssjbe aka the forms he clapped goku black ssj3 full power and hearts God killer form
Gogeta base=Goku Mui +
Full power + Vegeta Ue full power
its movie gogeta not actual one
I think the Jiren beat all forms of gogeta except from ssj god to ssj blue to me
me when people rally think that jiren is millions of times stronger than ssjb 💀
@@tomax9863 Source: random power level video in youtube
@@Unknown-mo6ug but gogeta is millions of times stronger than ssjb ;_;
Noooooo!!!!
Veku and skinny gogeta the strongest character in DBZ 😂🤣💔😂
Gogeta has more IQ & Battle IQ.
gogeta actual solos
jiren >>>>>> gogeta and gogeta ssj 1 and gogeta ssj 2 and gogeta SSJ 3 gogeta ssj god >>>>> jiren jiren full power >>>>>>>> gogeta ssj god gogeta ssj blue >>>>>>>> jiren full power
What about super Saiyan 4 gogeta
Low diff
@@Vasitar for who?
@@Vasitar Jiren low diff
@@Divine-DeviL ssj gogeta dbs > fp jiren
Gogeta base solo
Base Gogeta > FP Jiren
Fun fact : ssj2 gogeta beats jiren fp high diff and ssjg beats jiren no diff
Jiren destruza a Gogeta(pelicula de Broly) en sus formas ordinarias para vencerlo necesita el ssj blue.
Iq to gogata? Think😂
An actual Gogeta wins in base easily.
Vc sabe q o vegito é mais forte q o gogeta por conta da revalidade de dois guerreiros mais forte de todos os universos
Hahaha
yk gogeta is weaker than vegito right???
Big cap
Fat and skinny gogeta solos fiction
Did he just include cosmology in there?🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦
This alone proves that he doesn't know anything about powerscaling.
Literally doesn't matter. You acting like it's a big deal.
Gogeta super in base defeats jiren
En el torneo de poder se enfrentaron gogeta super Sayayin blue se enfrenta a jiren normal y ni siquiera le da un golpe a jiren
Jiren acaba facilmente a Gogeta ssj para vencer a Jiren necesita el ssj blue(aunque tengo dudas si le gana)
@@brolyssjlegendario5071🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🧠🧠🧠????
@@ZephiroX-GD
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
De lejos el fanboy de Gogeta más estupido que he visto.
Solo por decir que Jiren acaba facilmenre a Gogeta ssj automaticamente dices que uno es LGTB
First and third cap
base gogeta negs
Gogeta base se solea a Jiren en full power, no se que onda jaja
Esta usando al Gogeta de la peli y ese solo tiene el ssj blue como base.
Solo con el poder de unos blue en base ni de broma le alcanza para superar a Jiren.
@@ItachiUchiha-ur3ghla fusion suma los maximos poderes de los usuarios, por lo que seria el doble de fuerte que el blue y con el sjj seria 50 veces mas fuerte que eso, vegeto barre el piso con jiren con el sjj 2 que son 100 veces ese poder jajaja burro vuelve a primaria y naruto sin transformarse barre el piso con itachi, aparte de mid es sobrevalorado 😂😂😂
@@ZephiroX-GD
Como siempre los fsns de la fusión usando multiplicaciones en vez de usar argumentos objetivos.
Y si
Naruto base>>>>>Itachi
Pero que tienen que ver ellos aqui.
"Burro vuelve a la primaria"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Solo por decir que Jiren le gana a Gogeta base necesito ir a la primaria
De lejos el comentario más ridiculo que he leido.
ssj gogeta wins due to dbs super hero movie
DBH No canon
@@brolyssjlegendario5071 I said dbs super hero the movie
@@brolyssjlegendario5071 💀
Ssj gogeta alone stomps him.
El de la pelicula no
Uno actual si que podria.
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gogeta base(manga)>>>>>jiren full power
Quite fax as i see it
@@abdullahalhanif3551 xd
XDDDDDD
Jiren Full power>>>Gogeta(DBS Broly) ssj 1 2 y 3.
@@brolyssjlegendario5071 reality
jiren full power >gogeta base(dbs broly) i think
jiren full power < gogeta ssj1(dbs broly)
@@joaquindieser4565
LOL
Jiren overcomes a destroyer god and you tell me that Gogeta ssj 1 beats Jiren XD.
Tremendous nerf you give to a destroyer god.
Gogeta super Sayayin blue no puede ni contra jiren normal hasta en la serie lo pone
🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🧠🧠???
Gogeta ssj god(DBS Broly)>Jiren
No
Jiren Limit Breaker>Gogeta ssj god.
@@brolyssjlegendario5071 Gogeta ssj god>Jiren LB
@@WichardMMSilva
Jiren supera a un dios destructor y tu piensas que Gogeta solo en god le gana.
Tremenda infravaloracion le das a los dioses destructores.
@@brolyssjlegendario5071 idai? Belmond é um dos mais fracos hakaishins e Gogeta apenas na forma base é muito mais forte que Goku e Vegeta blue e se você não acredita, é só ver Vegetto vs Boo, onde Vegetto base mostrou ser MUITO mais forte que Goku e Vegeta juntos. Então se consideramos o aumento de 50x do ssj, isso faz do Gogeta ssj>>Goku blue kaioken 20x e Vegeta blue evolution. E o ssj god é MUITO mais forte que o ssj, não tem nem comparação, então Jiren seria amassado
@@WichardMMSilva
"Vermouth es de los hakaishin más debiles"
Fuenes: Creeme.
DBS( non Cannon) if he Used SSB he can't beat Jiren in Top Arc
In DBS Movie Gogeta Never defeat Jiren with base and SSJ1,SSJ2,SSJ3 and SSG
He must use SSB for beating Jiren
And You Gave IQ to Gogeta was Wrong 💀
DBSH? thats a bad reference the power scaling in that shees is even worst than the actual anime
In fact that's wrong, Gogeta could beat Jiren without using normal Super Saiyan. This is because Gogeta = UE full power Vegeta + MUI full power Goku, therefore, if Goku MUI could against Jiren, then Gogeta could easily surpass Jiren in his base state.
@@latrixx_ Never in my opinion.
Because has Goku and Vegeta get strong jiren also getting stronger
There we are not talking about ultra Gogeta 😶
@@ultravegito4094 So in that case it depends on whether we're talking about the anime or the manga, because if it's about the manga, Gogeta would still have the base state left over, while in the anime it would be different. In the anime *maybe* only *maybe* Gogeta would need at most an SSJ 2. Due to the multiplier of the transformation and Gogeta's power, should be left over.
@@latrixx_
Se esta usando el Gogeta de la pelicula de Broly y ese Gogera solo es superior al ssj blue en base.
gogeta obeso>gogeta enclenque
personally i dont think gogeta blue would be able to beat jiren, and definitely not in 30 minutes. just me though
@Brright how so
@@chrono3423 ssjb gogeta can fold mui. Learn how op fusioon is.
Goku and vegeta did not fuse in the tournament or they would have won when it was the arc in which Jigen and hit came to help I think and they fused Jigen said why did u not use this in the tournament nad vegeta said because he did not want to fuse with goku
@@Hamad_0001 bro, these arcs are not canon. They are used as advertisement for the game.
@@Hamad_0001 non canon arcs with shitty plot. They neff jiren so funking hard.
Gogeta base stomps jiren
No.
Uno actual si podria en base.
Pero el de DBS Broly necesita el ssj blue.
Jiren can defeat gogeta blue
lmao
Gogeta base > Jiren full power
No-low diff
My question is if gogeta base Is stronger then goku vegeta base fork how come gogeta didn't one shot broly in base? Didn't goku have mui at the time it was after the t.o.p arc
@@gregkareem9824 What?, I am spanish
Gogeta como sempre sendo super estimado ao extremo.
Estara hablando de un gogeta actual, seguro
@@gregkareem9824 Goku couldn't use mui so it doesn't count for the power of Gogeta, maximum they could use for the fusion's power was perfected ssj blue
Super cap gogeta won all but fat no
Huh?
Saitama win
lmao
gogeta is very underrated
so heres why
bace gogeta is 10x stronger than super saying bluekioken x20 goku ssj gogeta is stronger than hit with no rules who is stronger than supersaying blue kioken x30
all the other forms are at the same if not stronger than black freiza
What? Kaioken x30 doesn't even exist kaioken's limit is x20 and even then Hit is weaker than kaioken x10. Yeah base gogeta is stronger than ssjb but saying that it's x10 times more powerful is too much. And since when gogeta is underrated? I'm pretty sure most people are aware of how extremely powerful he is
@@TFProductions8284nah kaioken doesn’t have a limit it’s how much you body can *HANDLE* it
@@legendswarrior9377 bruh x20 times is the amount Goku can HANDLE. x30 has never been brought up in neither manga or anime
@@TFProductions8284 I never even said kaioken x30 was a thing 🤦♂️
@@legendswarrior9377 so your point was? Goku's limit IS x20 and that is pretty much stablished in the canon media
Gogeta Base in manga killed jiren
When?
There's no Gogeta vs Jiren fight, ever
Wtf are you on?
gogeta blue > goku mui,vegeta ue,granola,jiren,broly
gas, goku tui,beerus, > gogeta blue
Gogeta ssjb evolition > all mortals,gods of destruction,merus
in fact
veggeto Black goku arc using the final kame (manga) was already as strong if not stronger than beerus
and in DBS Broly goku says that he thinks that broly is stronger than beerus so ssjb gogeta (movie) is > beerus
@@tomax9863 Both of those Arc happen before Beerus fought the other gods of destruction.
I don't get why you people use that statement.
Tf is this?
Broly movie Gogeta gets slapped by current Goku, current Vegeta, and Granola.
And scale "Gogeta ssjb evolition "
Don't use CC Gogeta cause that shit is non cannon.
@@Unknown-mo6ug wdym Broly movie was after the fight whit other G.O.Ds
Music name?
Ordinary life