This is my first VR set, after a few nights on getting it to work just right with DCS, I went on my first flight. I launched off a air craft carrier, flew up past the clouds, went into enemy territory, doged a missel, went int oa turn with a Russian fighter, got clipped, flew at mach speeds to the ground and exploded.....OH MY GOD, it was worth it right then, just that moment. It was everything I thought it would be, and I hyped up the VR experience in my head for years, AND IT WAS AWESOME! I had that chrtimas morning feel, that feeling when you were a kid, woke up, and felt that excitement to play a game asap...being in my mid 30s that feel is not a daily occurnace.
Exactly... The first time I was on a ship in Elite Dangerous, in VR, a feeling-thought flooded me: "i don't want to play anything else ever"... Of course not... I still play many other games... but that feeling... once in a life.
@@buzzfunk Its all about budget, I could afford to buy a PC with a 4070 which has done well for me. But a 4080 would be recommended. If money is no issue get the 4090 if you want butter smooth gameplay at 120mhz
the first VR experience is amazing. It also was for me with Quest 2 even though it looked so shitty. Same with Reverb g2 after not using VR for a long time. But after the initial experience, I realize it actually looks shit. Nevermind being uncomfortable. I havent tried Pimax Crystal, know it looks better, I 100% doubt it looks good enough but want to try. I wonder how good you think it is now 2 weeks later if you have had chance to use it a lot.
not really. got lighthouse faceplate, two basestations 2.0. steam vr index and pimax sword controllers. the jitters on screen and drifting of the controllers are not fun at all. and that for well over 2k euros
Got the PSVR2 when it was $350 over the summer with the thought of just seeing what VR is about and it’s been better than expected. I got the adapter for the pc to play Half Life Alyx and other than some initial Bluetooth struggles it worked fantastic once set up. On the PS5 I’ve played RE Village and RE4 Remake which have been phenomenal and are the perfect games for VR. The only downside I’ve found is when the wife records you looking ridiculous and calls you a dork. Lol! All in all I’m glad I gave it a try.
Yeah I ended up sending mine back for a refund due to significant warping in the right lens and severe chromatic aberration in both lenses. Also something they don't mention is that the focal distance on the crystal light is much closer than any other VR headset due to it trying to appeal to the flight sim community. So for shooters like Ghost of Tabor where you need to look into the distance you get an almost fish eye lens effect that gave me significant eye strain. For context I have owned and used a Rift S, Quest 2, HP Reverb G2, Index, Quest pro, Quest 3, Bigscreen Beyond and the Crystal Light and none of the other headsets have these problems.
@Bell_Arclide I Agree, i want one for DCS but i live on Brazil(sadly) and Brazil have one of the worst Buyers Suport than i ever see... for get some waranty is better Lawsuit , soo how can i buy the Crystal Ligth now payin 1400 Dolars (Taxes) to probably have Lens Problens e a Nigthmare to get waranty!
The amount of TH-camrs who are obviously being paid, given a product to promote Crystal is getting out of hand, I have sent back three crystal lights, at least they gave my money back. Sorry but the quality is just not there.
i got a 14900ks, rtx 4080 super, 64gb ddr5 6000mhz. pimax crystal light with lighthouse faceplate, i got the sword controllers combined with two basestations vive 2.0. and also got steam index controllers with two dongles. and when the headset is completly stationary it seem to jitter on its own. and the drifting of especially the sword controllers is driving me nuts. i mean once im inside of an f1 car or airplane in msfs2024 it's fine. alsong i dont touch the controllers. because the displays seem to jitter more extreme when there is a controller involved. so yeah please pimax... fix this :(
Very happy playing Skyrim with my Quest 3. VR headsets need to adopt 240hz, even if it's just alternating 120hz per-eye (same CPU load but half GPU load) we need to get latency down for high fidelity hand movement.
Steam vr tracking dosnt have any noticeable latency , also 120 is fine for vr hardware isnt there to feed 240hz anything in vr 120 is a lot for most games and with heaset res going up its ever worse for the perf need. (quest pro with steam vr gloves and a 4090)
@@angrygreek1985 GPU capabilities are irrelevant, as soon as a company like Facebook institutes a 240hz mode as best practice it will be widely adopted.
do you own an index or bigscreen beyond? i can easily play for over 5 hours with my index, and it has made me realize that comfort is one of the most important factors in a headset. does the pimax have speakers or what are you using for audio? love the vr videos and hope to see more 😍
I'm very interested in VR, currently using a reverb g2 which is losing support fully next year. hoping for some good oled headsets to come out by the time i need to switch.
"You want to play some Arizona Sunshine?" " No I'm just passing through, I'll be gone Quicker than you be able to side load a fully fovoated text file on a 5 gig Link cable. I'm so ashamed That I even did what I did but I bet a bunch of you tried to push this on children even school zones. Is it possible you could Let it be immersive, yet you be merciful Lord. That's the sweet spot right there
I would like a VR that completely substitutes a monitor for PC gaming. With ITX, you can have the ultimate power and portability that laptops cannot dream of. I don´t care if the games are not VR, I would be fine playing in a simulated monitor if it has comparable quality to a real one.
pimax is great in that off chance you get a headset that isnt defective and you can get the software to turn on in under 45 minutes. People should just buy a quest 3 its a near top tier headset for an amazing price that just works, picture quality is pretty bad though in the color accuracy department.
I have both psvr2, and quest 3. I love my quest 3. I rarely use my psvr2, in general, the motion and resolution on games is horrible. But quest, with quest games optimizer, is amazing, no pc required
Conner, Flatpanelshd just posted an article on a TCL CSOT 4k 27" IJP prototype. A 27" version of the prototype they've shown at CES the past 3 years or so that you covered before. The difference this time is though, is that they've actually started mass production on a smaller 21.6" 4k panel for medical use this year. This bodes well for the 27" panel being produced next year most likely. This could be an interesting option in the monitor space cuz RGB stripe pixel layout and better ambient light handling than QD-Oled. Sadly, they're still quoting a 120hz refresh and 250 nits fullscreen with 600 nits 10%. On the bright side though ABL will probably be better than QD-Oled but it won't have super bright specular highlights like MLA W-Oled.
As someone that's been using the Quest 2 since it launched, I will never spend another cent on a headset featuring "Standalone" or "Wireless". Wired PCVR exclusive is the only way to go, and I'm glad to see the market getting more options this year.
Been in the market for a new headset as Microsoft is killing WMR. I still love the Samsung Odyssey+ I got for $200 4 years ago, but I guess I need to upgrade. Only downside I have of my current one is that it also has the stuttery looking controllers. Sucks you either have to choose between OLED or 120hz today. Playing Beat Saber 90hz just doesn't feel like enough for the higher difficulties. The PSVR2 has both, but it also has motion smoothing making it a no go for Beat Saber. Really looks like the Quest 3 is still the only option. Sucks as the colors and contrast really aren't that great on it.
Pimax Super will have bigger FOV, smaller form factor and OLED, also the 12K in the pipeline with massive FOV. Have a reverb G2 with face mod but FOV really kills immersion for me
The hardware has been strong for years now. It's the software that's just not great. VR needs to create an Ocarina of time, skyrim, and cod level of addiction.
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This is my first VR set, after a few nights on getting it to work just right with DCS, I went on my first flight. I launched off a air craft carrier, flew up past the clouds, went into enemy territory, doged a missel, went int oa turn with a Russian fighter, got clipped, flew at mach speeds to the ground and exploded.....OH MY GOD, it was worth it right then, just that moment. It was everything I thought it would be, and I hyped up the VR experience in my head for years, AND IT WAS AWESOME! I had that chrtimas morning feel, that feeling when you were a kid, woke up, and felt that excitement to play a game asap...being in my mid 30s that feel is not a daily occurnace.
Exactly... The first time I was on a ship in Elite Dangerous, in VR, a feeling-thought flooded me: "i don't want to play anything else ever"... Of course not... I still play many other games... but that feeling... once in a life.
Im looking for my first set. What GPU are you using? Would you recommend this set?
@@buzzfunk Its all about budget, I could afford to buy a PC with a 4070 which has done well for me. But a 4080 would be recommended. If money is no issue get the 4090 if you want butter smooth gameplay at 120mhz
the first VR experience is amazing. It also was for me with Quest 2 even though it looked so shitty. Same with Reverb g2 after not using VR for a long time.
But after the initial experience, I realize it actually looks shit. Nevermind being uncomfortable.
I havent tried Pimax Crystal, know it looks better, I 100% doubt it looks good enough but want to try. I wonder how good you think it is now 2 weeks later if you have had chance to use it a lot.
Now I can ride Mia in 4K VR.
you can also use the base station style tracking. that's pretty flawless
not really. got lighthouse faceplate, two basestations 2.0. steam vr index and pimax sword controllers. the jitters on screen and drifting of the controllers are not fun at all. and that for well over 2k euros
Nice vid. Good to see some VR content!
Great review but at 7:06 what was that?
Would you happen to know if the FOV on the crystal light worse than the quest 3? Or is it about the same?
It's bigger
it's a little bigger, but not shockingly. PSVR2 feels a bit larger than the Crystal if you can get close enough to the lenses.
Got the PSVR2 when it was $350 over the summer with the thought of just seeing what VR is about and it’s been better than expected. I got the adapter for the pc to play Half Life Alyx and other than some initial Bluetooth struggles it worked fantastic once set up. On the PS5 I’ve played RE Village and RE4 Remake which have been phenomenal and are the perfect games for VR. The only downside I’ve found is when the wife records you looking ridiculous and calls you a dork. Lol! All in all I’m glad I gave it a try.
Been waiting to upgrade from my Vive. Kinda want to see what valve is cooking tho
Very interested in VR reviews! See if Megane will send you an 8K headset next year :)
I bought one to use while standing, not sure if the inside out tracking is too great for that
They need to fix the insane amount of Crystal Ligth whit Lens Problems!
Yeah I ended up sending mine back for a refund due to significant warping in the right lens and severe chromatic aberration in both lenses. Also something they don't mention is that the focal distance on the crystal light is much closer than any other VR headset due to it trying to appeal to the flight sim community. So for shooters like Ghost of Tabor where you need to look into the distance you get an almost fish eye lens effect that gave me significant eye strain. For context I have owned and used a Rift S, Quest 2, HP Reverb G2, Index, Quest pro, Quest 3, Bigscreen Beyond and the Crystal Light and none of the other headsets have these problems.
@Bell_Arclide I Agree, i want one for DCS but i live on Brazil(sadly) and Brazil have one of the worst Buyers Suport than i ever see... for get some waranty is better Lawsuit , soo how can i buy the Crystal Ligth now payin 1400 Dolars (Taxes) to probably have Lens Problens e a Nigthmare to get waranty!
Jaap said something about it now being fixed and also said customer support policies were re-vamped to essentially stop customers from getting screwed
@@lukeb5905 Its has been improved but it will likely never be 100% fine for 100% of headsets.
The amount of TH-camrs who are obviously being paid, given a product to promote Crystal is getting out of hand, I have sent back three crystal lights, at least they gave my money back. Sorry but the quality is just not there.
i got a 14900ks, rtx 4080 super, 64gb ddr5 6000mhz. pimax crystal light with lighthouse faceplate, i got the sword controllers combined with two basestations vive 2.0. and also got steam index controllers with two dongles. and when the headset is completly stationary it seem to jitter on its own. and the drifting of especially the sword controllers is driving me nuts. i mean once im inside of an f1 car or airplane in msfs2024 it's fine. alsong i dont touch the controllers. because the displays seem to jitter more extreme when there is a controller involved. so yeah please pimax... fix this :(
THIS OR AN OLED MONITOR?
Lookign at getting into VR this was a very helpful video
Very happy playing Skyrim with my Quest 3.
VR headsets need to adopt 240hz, even if it's just alternating 120hz per-eye (same CPU load but half GPU load) we need to get latency down for high fidelity hand movement.
Steam vr tracking dosnt have any noticeable latency , also 120 is fine for vr hardware isnt there to feed 240hz anything in vr 120 is a lot for most games and with heaset res going up its ever worse for the perf need. (quest pro with steam vr gloves and a 4090)
lol good luck with that. no hardware can support that at these resolutions.
@@angrygreek1985 As I was saying alternating 120hz per-eye gets you 240hz latency at the same GPU cost as normal synchronized 120hz.
@budthecyborg4575 yeah and good luck getting rock stable 120hz with any current gpus in any demanding VR games.
@@angrygreek1985 GPU capabilities are irrelevant, as soon as a company like Facebook institutes a 240hz mode as best practice it will be widely adopted.
The PSVR2 price isn't that bad as a headset. It looks really good on pc, I wish all the features that would come over from PlayStation 5 though
do you own an index or bigscreen beyond? i can easily play for over 5 hours with my index, and it has made me realize that comfort is one of the most important factors in a headset. does the pimax have speakers or what are you using for audio? love the vr videos and hope to see more 😍
It has speakers. The stock ones aren’t bad, but they don’t get loud enough IMO.
I'm very interested in VR, currently using a reverb g2 which is losing support fully next year. hoping for some good oled headsets to come out by the time i need to switch.
When it looses tracking, there is a "re center" button that quickly puts you back in place, but yeah the controllers are not the best.
100% love vr ive had a few headsets. currently have quest 3
"You want to play some Arizona Sunshine?"
" No I'm just passing through, I'll be gone Quicker than you be able to side load a fully fovoated text file on a 5 gig Link cable. I'm so ashamed That I even did what I did but I bet a bunch of you tried to push this on children even school zones. Is it possible you could Let it be immersive, yet you be merciful Lord. That's the sweet spot right there
Thanks for the honest video all the pervious ones are people sponsored and saying that its a great buy pointing out no flaws
Thanks for watching 👍
Perf would be fine on a quest 2 quest 3 , display res is the issue we need faster hardware been doing vr stuff for over 5 years now.
I would like a VR that completely substitutes a monitor for PC gaming. With ITX, you can have the ultimate power and portability that laptops cannot dream of. I don´t care if the games are not VR, I would be fine playing in a simulated monitor if it has comparable quality to a real one.
I would love to see a system that connects the wire through the ceiling to make it feel more wireless. Like a Mouse bungee from the ceiling
That exists but not many people use it.
Those have existed for a long time and you can just buy them.
pimax is great in that off chance you get a headset that isnt defective and you can get the software to turn on in under 45 minutes. People should just buy a quest 3 its a near top tier headset for an amazing price that just works, picture quality is pretty bad though in the color accuracy department.
Or a beyond. It’s the best headset imo. I’ve tried basically all of them.
I have both psvr2, and quest 3. I love my quest 3. I rarely use my psvr2, in general, the motion and resolution on games is horrible. But quest, with quest games optimizer, is amazing, no pc required
Conner, Flatpanelshd just posted an article on a TCL CSOT 4k 27" IJP prototype. A 27" version of the prototype they've shown at CES the past 3 years or so that you covered before. The difference this time is though, is that they've actually started mass production on a smaller 21.6" 4k panel for medical use this year. This bodes well for the 27" panel being produced next year most likely. This could be an interesting option in the monitor space cuz RGB stripe pixel layout and better ambient light handling than QD-Oled. Sadly, they're still quoting a 120hz refresh and 250 nits fullscreen with 600 nits 10%. On the bright side though ABL will probably be better than QD-Oled but it won't have super bright specular highlights like MLA W-Oled.
600nits in a 10% window is better than QD OLED on monitors right now.
@@thedisplayguy I know, but maybe I misinterpreted their specs cuz they qoute 600 nits peak. I hope they mean a 10% but wasn't sure
yea ill get VR in 2030, might even get a smartwatch before that
As someone that's been using the Quest 2 since it launched, I will never spend another cent on a headset featuring "Standalone" or "Wireless".
Wired PCVR exclusive is the only way to go, and I'm glad to see the market getting more options this year.
I mean the VR headset does technically have a display. Do racing sims next 👍
Been in the market for a new headset as Microsoft is killing WMR. I still love the Samsung Odyssey+ I got for $200 4 years ago, but I guess I need to upgrade. Only downside I have of my current one is that it also has the stuttery looking controllers.
Sucks you either have to choose between OLED or 120hz today. Playing Beat Saber 90hz just doesn't feel like enough for the higher difficulties. The PSVR2 has both, but it also has motion smoothing making it a no go for Beat Saber. Really looks like the Quest 3 is still the only option. Sucks as the colors and contrast really aren't that great on it.
Please review the Somnium vr1, its sooo much better 🙏
Are you sponsored by Vasoline?
Pimax Super will have bigger FOV, smaller form factor and OLED, also the 12K in the pipeline with massive FOV. Have a reverb G2 with face mod but FOV really kills immersion for me
The hardware has been strong for years now. It's the software that's just not great. VR needs to create an Ocarina of time, skyrim, and cod level of addiction.
well uh, theres skyrim VR
@@TheUnriderand plenty of COD type vr games 😭
@TheUnrider not even close to the non vr experience
@@realgrimez yea they all suck
@@setitfree78With the FUS wabbajack vr modpack, it’s way more fun than vanilla Skyrim, at least for me
As a non racer / flyer, still waiting for games 😑
it's enormous, heavy, unwieldly, bad pimax software
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Vr makes me nauseous
It does take some time to get used to. It took me weeks to be acclimated. And still it's not my number one choice for gaming.
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