My ex girlfriend who hasn’t spoken to me in 8 months just reached out to my little sister to try and recruit her for Herbalife. And the first thing she said was it’s not a scam
I love how when the hunbots are pitching at you, they'll tell you about how it's SO EASY, no effort, passive income babe! But then once you're in and asking for help because you're not making any money, they turn around and criticize you for not hustling enough, telling you you have to get on your girlboss grind. All the promises from the pitch evaporate like the seams in a pair of cheap leggings.
Yep…”If you work it like a hobby, it’ll pay you like a hobby…you have to work it like a full time job.” 🙄 I love all you anti MLM creators getting the word out about this stuff. I wish I would’ve found you back when I was being recruited.
Ì was a herbalife dealer😢 I sucked at it cause I couldn't upsell my clients crap they didn't need or afford. I did loose 71lbs using their products 🎉 & ended up hospitalized for a damaged liver & gallbladder , thx to losing weight too quickly😮 Major red flag is the "30day" Jumpstart weightloss kit--it's really only a 17day kit & u gotta spend another $60+ to finish the month
They also contain laxatives which is so fucking dangerous. Not only will you get dehydrated and malnourished from short term use, long term you will be physically addicted to laxatives. That's right you get mad constipation for the rest of your life if you stop taking them. You're also completely stripping your gut of the healthy bacteria. And the non alcoholic fatty liver of course! It's really a 3-in-1 deal
You know how some of the MLMs give rewards when you meet certain sales goals? Like a coffee mug or a jacket etc. My mom sold so much Mary Kay in the 90's that they gave her pink Cadillac.
Oh, yeah, I remember the pink cadillac thing. Although it wasn't actually *yours*, if you quit Mary Kay, you had to give it back. There are some MLMs that are doing this same strategy today, with SUVs and other "family cars".
Yeah they don't actually GIVE the car. No matter how much you sell. They give you a bonus towards the monthly car payment....but only if you maintain that rank. If you drop, or leave the company, the bonuses stop and you're still on the hook for the car payments. It's a trap.
They didn't give her that car. She qualified to a ranked at which she given a bonus that she could apply to a lease on that car. She had to maintain that rank every month to continue getting the bonus. She was bound to that lease whether she got the bonus or not and had to pay for it no matter what.
I remember when a close friend of mine was considering getting into Monat, I was trying to persuade her out of it she got mad and yelled “you don’t know what it’s like to own a business!” I owned two production companies at the time and my friend didn’t even have a sole proprietorship LLC (she didn’t even know what that was)
I had a friend recently like this. And she already has 2 jobs. She got into a traveling mlm company and I was trying to tell her it was a Pyramid scheme and she was making it sound like I don't want her to be successful. Lol 😂 I decided to just let her be. Sometimes it's best to learn the hard way. To mark matters worse she's paying them a monthly fee to be apart of the team! 🤦🏽♀️
oh my god?? my grandpa worked for Amway, and anytime i asked him what he did he wouldn’t really give me an exact answer,, HE WAS PART OF A FUCKING MLM???!!!
This reminded me of the time I was in cosmetology school. There was a girl in our class who was sexually harassing and stalking a few of us. That story is an entire other can of worms, but I remember when myself and other classmates went to go tell our instructor what was going on, our instructor pulled out the DoTerra product guide, handed it to me to look through and told me that some lavender would "calm the situation". She got up to go get some paperwork, put lavender in the diffuser, and left the room. I COMPLETELY lost respect for her in that moment. Several of your students come to you with literal sexual harassment and stalking complaints, and in that vulnerable moment, you pull out the MLM shit?!?! No, ma'am. Can we be serious, for fucks sake?!
When i was a kid, my granny and aunts were BIG into Amway. I went to a few summits with them. Everyone were constantly on their phones talking about "business" but would never say what. It was like they were cosplaying businessmen/women. Then Bill Britt comes out in a fabulous fur coat yelling that "God wants you to be rich". By selling "dish drops" and strange energy drinks!
Back in the day my mom and grandmother (really every woman in my family) was SO into Avon (like everyone had an "Avon lady" but none of them sold it). My favourite Avon lady was this one who was REALLY into star trek and had models, pictures and ships everywhere in her house.
Lady at my church worked for Stampin Up and boldly declared at Sunday School that women’s shouldn’t work outside the home. Right in the face of several retired and current public school teachers, and a school nurse. Ironically she was out most nights and attended week long conferences in Vegas🙄. Oh and dumping the kids off in her husband and mother in law while she did this. She didn’t consider it work😂
@@hashtagmateI don't think the poster was claiming that leaving your children with your husband, parents, friends, etc WRONG - most parents I know would never judge people for needing some time away from their kids - it's that this woman in particular had that self-righteous "Angel Mommy" complex, the kind where they say things like, "Oh, I could NEVER imagine working outside the home! After all, my first and only job is to be a good wife and see to my precious babies; I can't imagine trusting them to someone for so long! Again, if that's how they choose to live, well, personally, if I was one of their kid I'd feel stiffled; then again, probably quite a few kids actually thrive in those kinds of environment. If that works for the family, then I'm happy for them. The only problem other people tend to have is when women like that pretend that their dedication to being a SAHM makes them somehow superior to every women who works - regardless of if it's by choice or not; even if you're working because your oldest child has expressed interested in a collegepath career and being the loving mother you are you want to give him/her everything even if it means scrapping by some Christmases/birthdays, working 30+ hours alongside a bunch of 20something (they're closer to your children's ages than they are to yours!) - to give all that up knowing your kid has the chance at a better life including the job they want, and then to be ripped down by some MLM mommy who insists that mothers who work outside the homes are MONSTERS sho don't love their children or their husbands, you might get upset too. Especially if she
Mlms will often blame the customers that its their fault that the product doesn't work. Like lipsense "oh the burning is your lips are too dry keep using the product"
@@s.a.6082Basically that's the excuse of anyone or thing that is toxic or doesn't actually care."well, it totally would have worked except YOU messed up." Even as teacher, looking over a report where it's entirely the student's fault, you never phrase it that way. If you do, they just close themselves off to protect themselves, especially if the student has had multiple bad experiences and has learned. It's WAY more effective (although, unfortunately, also WAY more annoying for the poor student) to say something like, "How about we set some time aside. I can explain how I read your paper, and you can help me understand what I've missed." If you do that, and they actually show up to listen, give them a second chance with the report. When a student doesn't feel belittled, and if you actually listen to them and try to understand where they were coming from, you get much better results.
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO LIKED THE HERBALIFE SHOP SHAKES!! my favorite is blueberry muffin, just soo good. i havent gotten one in like two years though. id rather not entertain someone's pipe dream they got sucked into.
Your comment reminded me that many MLMs actually have good products and could have been legitimate businesses if they tried. maybe they wouldn't make as much money, but they might have found success.
I love when the Plexus girlies say they stopped drinking coffee and went to Plexus’s NATURAL caffeine…. Like, what do they think coffee is? 😂 p.s. my favorite videos of yours are the gentle parenting boyfriend, I haven’t stopped saying “special guy” and “best buddy” since watching them!
Omg my friends mom used to sell Mary Kay when I was little. And literally half of her bedroom was just boxes of Mary Kay and then some shelves with like Mary Kay displays. We used to go in there and “steal” like face masks cause we felt cool putting green muck on our 10 year old skin.
@@carter1780that man makes at least $30,000 to $60,000 a month. I was an employee for a large MLM. I worked directly with the top sellers. They traveled a lot. Didn't need to sell. We'd do large conventions. Celebrities would be there. Private shows with musicians. It's a crazy world. But most people who sell lose money
It's wild how defensive the mlm schemers will be, I had a girl I know who ruined her life because she got trapped into Herbalife and said that I didn't understand she was making tons of money, but she was actually completely broke she got fired for trying to sell it to customers at her second job
It's defensive delusionalism (not a real word but I'm coining it). They're in so deep they can't face up to how fucked they are by admitting it's not working out, so instead they just become super defensive as a way to avoid having to think critically about what they're doing. It's cult-like thinking, but super common from people who are in way over their heads 🙁
As the child of a woman in an MLM, WHAT TIME FREEDOM 💀💀 When my mother was in her peak “boss babe” era, she was CONSTANTLY working. What’s the point of working from home when your child has to wait a whole hour for you to get off a call, only for you to be half listening while on your phone?
You need to (if you have not already) submit your 'horror story' about this as the POV of the child of a mum in an MLM to Hannah Alonzo's MLM Horror Stories series !
My Dad was the biggest distributor of Herbalife in Venezuela in the 90s… the company stole his downline and when we sued they buried us in legal filings till he gave up. Was def not sad when the founder died. And those shakes are delicious.
Wait, so the whole company is formed around the idea that with drive and passion, anyone can create a whole little team and work hard to achieve their dreams. Only they're allowed to just step in and take it all away? Just like that? Like, I get that these companies are toxic, but that's just cruel.
look, i’m a dancer, i could give myself an iv of liquid protein and it would be around the same amount i consume, but aged NINE???? i only started eating protein bars when i was 13, and i’m sure your friend is not a high-level ballet dancer building over 10 kilograms of muscle within a few months, so… not great!! don’t be doing that!!
Having grown up in the Bronx in the 80’s, your introspective into growing up in a life in Salt Lake City , middle /upper middle class and conservative keeps me leaning in for next moment of cringe .. Dysfunction runs deep in every strata . It’s so fascinating !
@@rachelbachel2 . I would definitely qualify it as fascinating! TBH it was nasty ,crime filled ,and smelled bad from the trash never getting picked up . Now I live on Lake Michigan in the North Shore Chicago land area . Lovely insular area, great schools , and it’s amazing ! I love it !
I worked with a girl who used to sell Monavie. She was so passionate about it and I kept considering buying a bottle because I felt bad. She would tell people it helped prevent inflammation which can lead to colon or cervix cancer but then she got colon cancer. It was super awkward . I went to visit her before surgery and I casually asked if she was still using monavie and she said her doctor said DEFINITELY NO!
I am so glad I found your channel today!!! MLM’s are my most recent favorite topic to watch videos on, I’ve never once considered selling items but have had numerous friends who of course, all lost money. I will admit I was given a pair of lularoe leggings and they truly are the softest ones I own but the pattern is not my style so they get worn for pajamas or extra layers in the cold.
i patroned a local shake shop and LOVED the owner and employee, so friendly and talkative. until one day i noticed the herbalife jugs behind the counter 😭😭 i don’t want to support MLMs but i enjoyed the experience of going up there and talking with the owner for 10 minutes twice a week over a great shake. i’m sure though if i had gone long enough, the friendliness would have led into pitching me the scheme
So that’s why Doterra is popular among like, insanely conservative religious groups. A lot of “traditional” religious people are highly skeptical of anything government- including established medicine (which started largely among religious, ironically). So offering “alternative” or “clean” products is so effective because they literally buy in so hard and believe it can cure anything from nausea to autism to heart disease. Every woman in my Catholic church including my mom (and even my now FIL) believes in Doterra.
In my experience (also Catholic), a lot of the medical skepticism arises from legit bad experience with the established medical system. Symptoms that are dismissed, tests administered improperly, etc. So a lot of women turn to alt medicine in desperation. Had a married friend who went in for ulcers; the doc told her it was an STD and accused her of sleeping around before she even got test back (it was negative - ulcers were actually caused by strep). It's sadly not a surprise to me that so many women therefore buy into essential oils as "holistic" "natural" medicinal alternatives. BTW, said friend grew up with a YoungLiving mom, and unfortunately this experience only drove her further down the alt medicine pipeline...
Yeah... almost all my immediate family got into it because of their health. They had me try some products. Multivitamin made me vomit, probiotic made me highly nauseated, no matter how I took it...and the cleanse stuff... caused me to have a colonoscopy. I refused the "pink drink" because one of the ingredients I'm not supposed to have. Also, having an annual charge on a person's account...not cool. I'm probably still in my parent's downline, but since the only card I have on file is inactive I can't be charged for anything. I totally felt pushed into it because "it will help your chronic conditions, it will be cheaper this way."
Just started following you yesterday and then you immediately release a video on a topic I'm absurdly obsessed with mocking. Love it, thanks for validating my follow XD (In case you were wondering, shorts really do work!)
I feel like MLM recruiters say loads of ambiguous stuff and go round in circles and then end it with a generalised self empowerment slogan and that’s the end - it’s so confusing that you just agree to whatever it is they are saying
I've been almost recruited to a few. They usually don't want to tell you the name until you've gone to one of their deceptive, high-pressure pitch and meet all the people who are gonna retire in their 40s
My parents live on the same lake as an Amway founder’s house and sometimes when we are out there they will just helicopter in like I can’t imagine becoming THAT rich off other’s work Also that white woman saying “im trying to sell you stuff” oh boy she’s lucky she didn’t get searched for drugs then and there
I am loving your videos, especially the Van Life series. The Almond Mom ones are great too. In my day we called them Carob Chip Moms. Please do a video on the Clam Scams. When I found out there are woman all over the country shucking oysters to reveal worthless fake pearls, I just about lost my mind.
I actually work with many MLM companies as their content producer and it's super fascinating... A few brands really do have great products but they are so expensive that I would never buy them once my free bottles run out lol. My favorite part is shooting conferences where everyone is 50+ talking about how GenZ will change the mlm world with their social media but I have yet to meet a person my age that has even the slightest interest in earning income this way. Also, the galas are insane and I'm blown away by how rich some of these distributors are
You are genuinely so cute. I came across your shorts sometime last year and love them. I never looked at your full videos, and I’m so glad I did. This was a fun video!
Im so PISSED because I swear, all the instagram boss babes in my age bracket have made all the “trends” that I like and ruined them for me lol. Wide brimmed hats, Stanley cups, all that shit I used to like and I know I feel stupid wearing it because I get mistaken for a mlm “boss babe” whose trying to hard 😂 I actually didn’t buy a Stanley cup because of this. At first I thought they seem like great cups that keep your drinks COLD and I love cold water and I go through water quick, anyway, yea I just feel like the mlm women in their 30s and 40s ruin everything for us “normal” ladies 😂
My mom and I are both like you - we actually compare and BRAG about how long ice will stay ice in our "best" glasses. When she asked me about "Stanley Cups" I was all, "from hockey?" I later looked into what they actually were and even put a star on one to remind myself to get it for mother's day. Thank goodness I don't buy these gifts early. Whoop! Procrastination pays off again!
Cutco knives are the MLM for guys. As someone who works at shows beside MLM booths, that is my take. Also they flirt with the vendor ladies all the time, especially if she works for a home remodeling business for some reason.
20:53 I've grown up with these "essential" oils. Now, my family never thought that they could cure anything. We just used things that are scientifically proven to help, like lavender extract for calming and peppermint for nausea and tea tree oil/melaleuca for insect bites.
@@SpecialBlanket We use science to know whether something is actually going to help and is worth using as opposed to it being a placebo that's not worth our money.
that’s the thing, some MLMs don’t have bad products (a lot suck but not all lol) but they’re often overpriced & connected with false health claims. i never really understood it tho bc you can get identical essential oils from the store for cheaper but ig if you’re “supporting” someone you know by buying from them or are already used to them, you wouldn’t really think about buying them elsewhere
fyi, "essential" is the actual legit name for this kind of oil, it's not just a marketing gimmick lol. they're called that because they are basically the "essence" of a plant distilled down into a high concentration. not because they are essential for life or w/e the huns say.
The lady in the red at 24 minutes in seemed to imply that caffeine in coffee isn’t natural??? Coffee is literally a kind of bean????? From a tree????? What’s more natural than that
An ex pro soccer player from my U.K. citys club got involved with Herbalife, he was known for being not that bright, his Brazilian wife & this crap left him bankrupt.
Bro I'm from a latino family, and i have like 10 family members that are in herbalife, I don't know what they're hiding, they seem happy, but idk. 1 of my uncles goes to lots of herbalife events and 1 of my tias posts her lifestyle but meanwhile is trying to recruit people. Bruh this is so weird. I don't know what they're TRULY hiding.
something about that tiktok of the boss babe asking the cop who pulled her over if they had a wife is really insane. like those people have no limit to their personal agendas. if you see any videos about cops being hit up by sales people let me know?
There is an Herbalife smoothie shop owned by a really sweet family and I love their protein shakes so much and I cringe at myself but I can’t help it I love that shop so much😩
You're totally right about the snacks at MLM parties being delicious. My mother brought me along to a Premier Designs party like 15 years ago that had a key lime cheese ball that I'm still thinking about today. Unfortunately, I'll never be able to get the recipe for that cheese ball because the host who was trapped in the MLM was a woman trying to pay for her cancer treatments. She passed about two years after that.
my aunt did LuluRoe and i just remember my mom watching her livestream and she would have boxes and boxes on her shelf’s and like show the leggings and then everyone would comment like “Oh any smalls lefts?” she made good money off it until they got shut down…
There's around 80% of others moms I met that were in MLM's, thats so bad for the society in general. You can't even trust someone to go to a playdate with kids, because their reason to meet can be taking you down with them on the MLM scam XD
My mom and her friends were in an MLM for candles and the parties where they sold the most were always without a doubt the “I’m quitting and trying to get rid of my excess supplies” parties. All of the sudden all those people who weren’t convinced on the product were dying to buy the marked down products.
I actually worked for a startup company for a year that made me watch like a lot of mlm training videos and stuff like that and I left after they were unable to pay me for 6 months and it started to get real cult like. Also as someone who suffers from irritable bowel syndrome it really annoys me that people are turning the whole gut microbiome thing into mlm schemes and things like that as it is just a standard thing that my dietitian helps me out with and it shouldn't be exploited by people looking to make quick money.
The teen i mentor had a boss who tried to convince her to be his downline for a mortgage company. Its one of the only times i told her that doing something a trusted adult told her to do is going to ruin her. I hate that guy. 15 year olds don't even know that different types of interest exist. They are not qualified to do mortgages
This reminds me of when a cutco higher up or whatever of a high schooler that went to high school with me that I told I was interested in the job, consistently begged me to join cutco texting me constantly even when I wasn’t responding. Shit is freaky. Cus I wasn’t even 18 and he was well above 21+
This reminds me of an episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit about MLMs. There was a guy who they profiled that was in the hole trying out an MLM and they figured out that he would have been up the same amount working minimum wage at McDonald’s
I’ll never forget when my family moved back to my hometown when I was in middle school and one of my older sister’s old classmates came to our house with Mary Kay and I was just starting to get into make up. She kept telling me I could be a model while she was doing my makeup. Then my mom bought me skincare off of her for me as well as some makeup for both of us. 3 days after using the cleanser and toner I started breaking out into red bumps all over my face. I stopped using everything we got from her and looked up Mary Kay and that’s when I learned what an MLM was.
A girl I knew from summer camp tried to recruit me into “It Works!” over Instagram a few years ago. I politely declined, and I very gently asked her like “hey, are you actually making money from this? Because MLMs are really good at taking advantage of people, I just wanna make sure you’re keeping yourself safe financially” and her response was vague but very kind. Turns out, she was fighting an unknown chronic illness and deeply in the closet. She was a perfect target, and I’m so happy for her that she got out and seems to be doing a lot better now. (Also, it’s hilarious to me that an MLM called themselves “It Works!” It’s like they’re trying to get ahead of people like “we promise we’re legit!!! We’re a real company don’t worry about it!!!”)
I went to high school with a guy that sells herbalife. He's actually doing really really well for himself and opened his own juice bar. He's the only person I've ever met in any MLM that is doing OK in any way. I'm not saying anyone should sell herbalife or join any MLM because you most likely will lose money, it just kind of blows my mind to see even one person be successful doing any of this
Thanks for explaining the gut health = weight loss code. I'm autistic and I've been so confused by the marketing and ingredients of some of these products 😂 that makes so much sense, thanks!
I did plexus and it totally wrecked my stomach lmao. I have horrific acid reflux ever since I used it 👍🏻 it makes me so sad when I see Christine and Janelle pushing it
If you're interested in learning more about MLMs and hearing more horror stories, I can't recommend Hannah Alonzo's channel enough! Thanks for bringing this topic to more people Tyler!
Some of the ladies my mom was friends with did Tupperware and Pampered Chef just long enough for everyone to get some of the goods for discounted prices and got out True boss ladies
my mom and grandma are part of an mlm (melaleuca) and i was like this is a pyramid scheme and my mom was like no actually ☝️ it’s not a pyramid scheme it was investigated by the government and was found not guilty so actually it’s a cool and normal company 😀. and i was like….it was investigated by the gov…and that doesn’t concern you??? anyways now all of our cleaning supplies, body products, vitamins, protein powder, protein bars, and popcorn are from the damn mlm 😭
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Anytime someone says "don't listen to your family and friends", that is a cult, run.
Or an abusive partner, which is like a micro-cult, really. A bespoke cult just for you.
@@notbot2648a ‘bespoke cult’ 😂
this is the level of dark humour I ADORE 😂
@@notbot2648 A bespoke cult, hahaha
My ex girlfriend who hasn’t spoken to me in 8 months just reached out to my little sister to try and recruit her for Herbalife. And the first thing she said was it’s not a scam
This is PEAK
I love how when the hunbots are pitching at you, they'll tell you about how it's SO EASY, no effort, passive income babe! But then once you're in and asking for help because you're not making any money, they turn around and criticize you for not hustling enough, telling you you have to get on your girlboss grind. All the promises from the pitch evaporate like the seams in a pair of cheap leggings.
That is pure poetry! 🔥
Lularoe leggings
That was the joke, yes :) I'm glad people got it and it wasn't just me cackling at my own joke alone, as usual lmao@@KateJob
yesss
Yep…”If you work it like a hobby, it’ll pay you like a hobby…you have to work it like a full time job.” 🙄 I love all you anti MLM creators getting the word out about this stuff. I wish I would’ve found you back when I was being recruited.
inheriting a downline is probably the craziest thing I've ever heard of
RIGHT?! Hahahahhaa
"So many lives were ruined for this shake... 😁"
Your humor is just somethin else 😂
I’m dead
Ì was a herbalife dealer😢 I sucked at it cause I couldn't upsell my clients crap they didn't need or afford.
I did loose 71lbs using their products 🎉 & ended up hospitalized for a damaged liver & gallbladder , thx to losing weight too quickly😮
Major red flag is the "30day" Jumpstart weightloss kit--it's really only a 17day kit & u gotta spend another $60+ to finish the month
Oh my GOD, I hope you're okay now.
My mom lost a ton of weight but years later I realized her calorie intake was 1200😬😩
Be careful with the Herbalife shakes. People have gotten non-alcoholic fatty liver from daily Herbalife shakes.
They also contain laxatives which is so fucking dangerous. Not only will you get dehydrated and malnourished from short term use, long term you will be physically addicted to laxatives. That's right you get mad constipation for the rest of your life if you stop taking them. You're also completely stripping your gut of the healthy bacteria. And the non alcoholic fatty liver of course! It's really a 3-in-1 deal
Wow!!
I was hoping someone else was pointing out how dangerous the Herbalife products are aside from being an mlm, a lot of reports of liver damage.
@tradingfriends are you being serious
You know how some of the MLMs give rewards when you meet certain sales goals? Like a coffee mug or a jacket etc. My mom sold so much Mary Kay in the 90's that they gave her pink Cadillac.
Oh, yeah, I remember the pink cadillac thing. Although it wasn't actually *yours*, if you quit Mary Kay, you had to give it back.
There are some MLMs that are doing this same strategy today, with SUVs and other "family cars".
@@ZimVader-0017nowadays you don’t have to give it back you have to keep paying the lease
Yeah they don't actually GIVE the car. No matter how much you sell. They give you a bonus towards the monthly car payment....but only if you maintain that rank. If you drop, or leave the company, the bonuses stop and you're still on the hook for the car payments. It's a trap.
They didn't give her that car. She qualified to a ranked at which she given a bonus that she could apply to a lease on that car. She had to maintain that rank every month to continue getting the bonus. She was bound to that lease whether she got the bonus or not and had to pay for it no matter what.
that makes sense why we didnt have it for very long, thanks for the insight yall
I remember when a close friend of mine was considering getting into Monat, I was trying to persuade her out of it she got mad and yelled “you don’t know what it’s like to own a business!” I owned two production companies at the time and my friend didn’t even have a sole proprietorship LLC (she didn’t even know what that was)
I had a friend recently like this. And she already has 2 jobs. She got into a traveling mlm company and I was trying to tell her it was a Pyramid scheme and she was making it sound like I don't want her to be successful. Lol 😂 I decided to just let her be. Sometimes it's best to learn the hard way. To mark matters worse she's paying them a monthly fee to be apart of the team! 🤦🏽♀️
oh my god?? my grandpa worked for Amway, and anytime i asked him what he did he wouldn’t really give me an exact answer,, HE WAS PART OF A FUCKING MLM???!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
This reminded me of the time I was in cosmetology school. There was a girl in our class who was sexually harassing and stalking a few of us. That story is an entire other can of worms, but I remember when myself and other classmates went to go tell our instructor what was going on, our instructor pulled out the DoTerra product guide, handed it to me to look through and told me that some lavender would "calm the situation". She got up to go get some paperwork, put lavender in the diffuser, and left the room. I COMPLETELY lost respect for her in that moment. Several of your students come to you with literal sexual harassment and stalking complaints, and in that vulnerable moment, you pull out the MLM shit?!?! No, ma'am. Can we be serious, for fucks sake?!
That's WILD
When i was a kid, my granny and aunts were BIG into Amway. I went to a few summits with them. Everyone were constantly on their phones talking about "business" but would never say what. It was like they were cosplaying businessmen/women.
Then Bill Britt comes out in a fabulous fur coat yelling that "God wants you to be rich". By selling "dish drops" and strange energy drinks!
Came in from your shorts. Im really enjoying your content:) smart and funny, keep up the good work
You guys give me way too much credit❤😂 thanks for watching!!!
@@tylerbenderrnot too much credit you're just a hustling boss babe 😩💪🏼
Seriously this is so good. Loving the long form content 🎉
My god, that herbalife man was really talking in circles. He inherited a downline but it really is about 'teaching people' 😂
Back in the day my mom and grandmother (really every woman in my family) was SO into Avon (like everyone had an "Avon lady" but none of them sold it). My favourite Avon lady was this one who was REALLY into star trek and had models, pictures and ships everywhere in her house.
I forgot MLM stands for Multi Level Marketing and not just Man Loving Man. I need to read less fanfiction.
Same exact thought. Don't worry, freak, you're not alone.
I have the same issue with MSM being both 'mainstream media' and 'men who have sex with men'.
🤣😂🤣😂
loveddd the vid but more importantly your mum describing car dealerships in the frame of mlms blew my mind
Girl fuck car dealerships
They don't have to pay in and do earn some kind of salary, but you can definitely tell MLMs stole their ideas from other sales jobs.
Lady at my church worked for Stampin Up and boldly declared at Sunday School that women’s shouldn’t work outside the home. Right in the face of several retired and current public school teachers, and a school nurse. Ironically she was out most nights and attended week long conferences in Vegas🙄. Oh and dumping the kids off in her husband and mother in law while she did this. She didn’t consider it work😂
Ok let me just say: leaving your kids with their own father is not "dumping your children on your husband" those are his kids too.
This is the first time I’m hearing of stampin up being an mlm. Some of them really hide themselves well!
@@hashtagmate oh I agree, but this was surprising coming from someone who spoutted tradwife jargon.
@@hashtagmateI don't think the poster was claiming that leaving your children with your husband, parents, friends, etc WRONG - most parents I know would never judge people for needing some time away from their kids - it's that this woman in particular had that self-righteous "Angel Mommy" complex, the kind where they say things like, "Oh, I could NEVER imagine working outside the home! After all, my first and only job is to be a good wife and see to my precious babies; I can't imagine trusting them to someone for so long!
Again, if that's how they choose to live, well, personally, if I was one of their kid I'd feel stiffled; then again, probably quite a few kids actually thrive in those kinds of environment. If that works for the family, then I'm happy for them.
The only problem other people tend to have is when women like that pretend that their dedication to being a SAHM makes them somehow superior to every women who works - regardless of if it's by choice or not; even if you're working because your oldest child has expressed interested in a collegepath career and being the loving mother you are you want to give him/her everything even if it means scrapping by some Christmases/birthdays, working 30+ hours alongside a bunch of 20something (they're closer to your children's ages than they are to yours!) - to give all that up knowing your kid has the chance at a better life including the job they want, and then to be ripped down by some MLM mommy who insists that mothers who work outside the homes are MONSTERS sho don't love their children or their husbands, you might get upset too. Especially if she
Mlms will often blame the customers that its their fault that the product doesn't work. Like lipsense "oh the burning is your lips are too dry keep using the product"
Just like all cults “oh your life isn’t working out? You’re not living by the cult rules good enough!”
@@s.a.6082Basically that's the excuse of anyone or thing that is toxic or doesn't actually care."well, it totally would have worked except YOU messed up."
Even as teacher, looking over a report where it's entirely the student's fault, you never phrase it that way. If you do, they just close themselves off to protect themselves, especially if the student has had multiple bad experiences and has learned.
It's WAY more effective (although, unfortunately, also WAY more annoying for the poor student) to say something like, "How about we set some time aside. I can explain how I read your paper, and you can help me understand what I've missed." If you do that, and they actually show up to listen, give them a second chance with the report. When a student doesn't feel belittled, and if you actually listen to them and try to understand where they were coming from, you get much better results.
My queen has come out with yet another banger, nothing but straight fire. Red 40 fire.
thx babeee
The mom sounding so distraught at the idea that you needed to be predatory to be a good salesperson tugged at my heartstrings a little
“That’s just a boy mlm” had me 😂
Whenever I hear about MLMs I always think about the woman who sell Tupperware at craft fairs 😅
They are the worst 😂😂😂
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO LIKED THE HERBALIFE SHOP SHAKES!! my favorite is blueberry muffin, just soo good. i havent gotten one in like two years though. id rather not entertain someone's pipe dream they got sucked into.
Maybe someone has a clone recipe online so you can make your own at home.
Your comment reminded me that many MLMs actually have good products and could have been legitimate businesses if they tried. maybe they wouldn't make as much money, but they might have found success.
@@cheri31I think this is true. It’s not that all the products are bad. It’s the corrupt business model!
I love when the Plexus girlies say they stopped drinking coffee and went to Plexus’s NATURAL caffeine…. Like, what do they think coffee is? 😂 p.s. my favorite videos of yours are the gentle parenting boyfriend, I haven’t stopped saying “special guy” and “best buddy” since watching them!
i SCREAMED at the screen when she said “natural caffeine” 😭😭😭😭
Omg my friends mom used to sell Mary Kay when I was little. And literally half of her bedroom was just boxes of Mary Kay and then some shelves with like Mary Kay displays. We used to go in there and “steal” like face masks cause we felt cool putting green muck on our 10 year old skin.
We've always been the Sephora kids 😂
@@bootybuttcheeks I literally was thinking the same thing as I wrote this 😂
My mom briefly sold Mary Kay, and my sisters and I would steal the lipgloss samples
that man said he inherited a downline and my jaw literally dropped
its been 9 hours and im still thinking about this... like i didn't even know that was a thing you could do
@@carter1780that man makes at least $30,000 to $60,000 a month. I was an employee for a large MLM. I worked directly with the top sellers. They traveled a lot. Didn't need to sell. We'd do large conventions. Celebrities would be there. Private shows with musicians. It's a crazy world. But most people who sell lose money
It's wild how defensive the mlm schemers will be, I had a girl I know who ruined her life because she got trapped into Herbalife and said that I didn't understand she was making tons of money, but she was actually completely broke she got fired for trying to sell it to customers at her second job
It's defensive delusionalism (not a real word but I'm coining it). They're in so deep they can't face up to how fucked they are by admitting it's not working out, so instead they just become super defensive as a way to avoid having to think critically about what they're doing. It's cult-like thinking, but super common from people who are in way over their heads 🙁
I had no clue Dottara was an mlm product my mom and all the other teachers at the school she worked at were obsessed with it in like 2018 💀
Girl when I say that I RAN as soon as I saw the video title
As the child of a woman in an MLM, WHAT TIME FREEDOM 💀💀 When my mother was in her peak “boss babe” era, she was CONSTANTLY working. What’s the point of working from home when your child has to wait a whole hour for you to get off a call, only for you to be half listening while on your phone?
You need to (if you have not already) submit your 'horror story' about this as the POV of the child of a mum in an MLM to Hannah Alonzo's MLM Horror Stories series !
My Dad was the biggest distributor of Herbalife in Venezuela in the 90s… the company stole his downline and when we sued they buried us in legal filings till he gave up. Was def not sad when the founder died. And those shakes are delicious.
Wait, so the whole company is formed around the idea that with drive and passion, anyone can create a whole little team and work hard to achieve their dreams.
Only they're allowed to just step in and take it all away? Just like that? Like, I get that these companies are toxic, but that's just cruel.
It sounds like Dad got a taste of his own exploitative milkshake.
The Black beauty products situation if that’s true makes total sense, that IS a viable product.
22:00 “And they all smelled like the Bible” 😂 It’s so true.
My grandma is in a pyramid scheme, A few years ago my friend (she’s 9) was over and she tried to sell her protein powder…
look, i’m a dancer, i could give myself an iv of liquid protein and it would be around the same amount i consume, but aged NINE???? i only started eating protein bars when i was 13, and i’m sure your friend is not a high-level ballet dancer building over 10 kilograms of muscle within a few months, so… not great!! don’t be doing that!!
Having grown up in the Bronx in the 80’s, your introspective into growing up in a life in Salt Lake City , middle /upper middle class and conservative keeps me leaning in for next moment of cringe .. Dysfunction runs deep in every strata . It’s so fascinating !
I'm a west coast SoCal native. But I always found it fascinating when people grew up in a large inner city
@@rachelbachel2 . I would definitely qualify it as fascinating! TBH it was nasty ,crime filled ,and smelled bad from the trash never getting picked up . Now I live on Lake Michigan in the North Shore Chicago land area . Lovely insular area, great schools , and it’s amazing ! I love it !
I worked with a girl who used to sell Monavie. She was so passionate about it and I kept considering buying a bottle because I felt bad. She would tell people it helped prevent inflammation which can lead to colon or cervix cancer but then she got colon cancer. It was super awkward . I went to visit her before surgery and I casually asked if she was still using monavie and she said her doctor said DEFINITELY NO!
When I was 17, I was asked to join 3 different mlms in the space of 3 months. Luckily now most of the people I know have wised up and quit.
I am so glad I found your channel today!!! MLM’s are my most recent favorite topic to watch videos on, I’ve never once considered selling items but have had numerous friends who of course, all lost money. I will admit I was given a pair of lularoe leggings and they truly are the softest ones I own but the pattern is not my style so they get worn for pajamas or extra layers in the cold.
i patroned a local shake shop and LOVED the owner and employee, so friendly and talkative. until one day i noticed the herbalife jugs behind the counter 😭😭 i don’t want to support MLMs but i enjoyed the experience of going up there and talking with the owner for 10 minutes twice a week over a great shake. i’m sure though if i had gone long enough, the friendliness would have led into pitching me the scheme
So that’s why Doterra is popular among like, insanely conservative religious groups. A lot of “traditional” religious people are highly skeptical of anything government- including established medicine (which started largely among religious, ironically). So offering “alternative” or “clean” products is so effective because they literally buy in so hard and believe it can cure anything from nausea to autism to heart disease. Every woman in my Catholic church including my mom (and even my now FIL) believes in Doterra.
In my experience (also Catholic), a lot of the medical skepticism arises from legit bad experience with the established medical system. Symptoms that are dismissed, tests administered improperly, etc. So a lot of women turn to alt medicine in desperation. Had a married friend who went in for ulcers; the doc told her it was an STD and accused her of sleeping around before she even got test back (it was negative - ulcers were actually caused by strep). It's sadly not a surprise to me that so many women therefore buy into essential oils as "holistic" "natural" medicinal alternatives.
BTW, said friend grew up with a YoungLiving mom, and unfortunately this experience only drove her further down the alt medicine pipeline...
I got roped in to trying Plexus when I was younger and broke out in a rash that covered my entire body just from the drinks. Never again.
Also your mom is the sweetest
Yeah... almost all my immediate family got into it because of their health. They had me try some products. Multivitamin made me vomit, probiotic made me highly nauseated, no matter how I took it...and the cleanse stuff... caused me to have a colonoscopy. I refused the "pink drink" because one of the ingredients I'm not supposed to have. Also, having an annual charge on a person's account...not cool. I'm probably still in my parent's downline, but since the only card I have on file is inactive I can't be charged for anything. I totally felt pushed into it because "it will help your chronic conditions, it will be cheaper this way."
Just started following you yesterday and then you immediately release a video on a topic I'm absurdly obsessed with mocking. Love it, thanks for validating my follow XD (In case you were wondering, shorts really do work!)
Love that you’re causally talking about this fr fr like some people go deep which is great but not accessible so this is fun and gets to people
"We're totally going to be predatory so they wouldn't actually be safe." 😂😂
I feel like MLM recruiters say loads of ambiguous stuff and go round in circles and then end it with a generalised self empowerment slogan and that’s the end - it’s so confusing that you just agree to whatever it is they are saying
At a Mary kay party, where I was strongly encouraged to buy expensive stuff, the MK lady tarted going on a rant about Beyoncé and the illuminati.
I've been almost recruited to a few. They usually don't want to tell you the name until you've gone to one of their deceptive, high-pressure pitch and meet all the people who are gonna retire in their 40s
I feel like MLMs ruin peoples social lives. To them, everyone is either a potential buyer or recruit
My parents live on the same lake as an Amway founder’s house and sometimes when we are out there they will just helicopter in like I can’t imagine becoming THAT rich off other’s work
Also that white woman saying “im trying to sell you stuff” oh boy she’s lucky she didn’t get searched for drugs then and there
I am loving your videos, especially the Van Life series. The Almond Mom ones are great too. In my day we called them Carob Chip Moms. Please do a video on the Clam Scams. When I found out there are woman all over the country shucking oysters to reveal worthless fake pearls, I just about lost my mind.
Omg 😳 that’s wild! Definitely will look into it
I actually work with many MLM companies as their content producer and it's super fascinating...
A few brands really do have great products but they are so expensive that I would never buy them once my free bottles run out lol.
My favorite part is shooting conferences where everyone is 50+ talking about how GenZ will change the mlm world with their social media but I have yet to meet a person my age that has even the slightest interest in earning income this way. Also, the galas are insane and I'm blown away by how rich some of these distributors are
You are genuinely so cute. I came across your shorts sometime last year and love them. I never looked at your full videos, and I’m so glad I did. This was a fun video!
Im so PISSED because I swear, all the instagram boss babes in my age bracket have made all the “trends” that I like and ruined them for me lol. Wide brimmed hats, Stanley cups, all that shit I used to like and I know I feel stupid wearing it because I get mistaken for a mlm “boss babe” whose trying to hard 😂 I actually didn’t buy a Stanley cup because of this. At first I thought they seem like great cups that keep your drinks COLD and I love cold water and I go through water quick, anyway, yea I just feel like the mlm women in their 30s and 40s ruin everything for us “normal” ladies 😂
My mom and I are both like you - we actually compare and BRAG about how long ice will stay ice in our "best" glasses. When she asked me about "Stanley Cups" I was all, "from hockey?" I later looked into what they actually were and even put a star on one to remind myself to get it for mother's day. Thank goodness I don't buy these gifts early. Whoop! Procrastination pays off again!
Aww your mom sounds like such a sweetheart!
Every time someone says something is peak millennial it’s something that I, a millennial, am cringing out of my mind about lol.
I have been binging ur channel, u speak to me in ways those who grew up outside conservative Christianity just wouldnt be able to LOL
Cutco knives are the MLM for guys. As someone who works at shows beside MLM booths, that is my take. Also they flirt with the vendor ladies all the time, especially if she works for a home remodeling business for some reason.
You go, girlboss!!! 💅
No you, bossbabe!!!
20:53 I've grown up with these "essential" oils. Now, my family never thought that they could cure anything. We just used things that are scientifically proven to help, like lavender extract for calming and peppermint for nausea and tea tree oil/melaleuca for insect bites.
Those are subjective effects, why would you need scientific proof of whether smtg calms you or helps yr nausea
@@SpecialBlanket We use science to know whether something is actually going to help and is worth using as opposed to it being a placebo that's not worth our money.
@Anonymous-54545 so that I know whether it's actually worth investing in or whether I should find some cheaper placebo
that’s the thing, some MLMs don’t have bad products (a lot suck but not all lol) but they’re often overpriced & connected with false health claims. i never really understood it tho bc you can get identical essential oils from the store for cheaper but ig if you’re “supporting” someone you know by buying from them or are already used to them, you wouldn’t really think about buying them elsewhere
fyi, "essential" is the actual legit name for this kind of oil, it's not just a marketing gimmick lol. they're called that because they are basically the "essence" of a plant distilled down into a high concentration. not because they are essential for life or w/e the huns say.
The lady in the red at 24 minutes in seemed to imply that caffeine in coffee isn’t natural???
Coffee is literally a kind of bean????? From a tree????? What’s more natural than that
LOVE THIS GIRLBOSS 💖💅💅💃 This video fixed my gut health! 👏🏻
You should talk about how unethically most of, if not all, these products are manufactured.
An ex pro soccer player from my U.K. citys club got involved with Herbalife, he was known for being not that bright, his Brazilian wife & this crap left him bankrupt.
I absolutely love these deep dive videos! This and the sister wives video hooked me ❤
Bro I'm from a latino family, and i have like 10 family members that are in herbalife, I don't know what they're hiding, they seem happy, but idk. 1 of my uncles goes to lots of herbalife events and 1 of my tias posts her lifestyle but meanwhile is trying to recruit people. Bruh this is so weird. I don't know what they're TRULY hiding.
something about that tiktok of the boss babe asking the cop who pulled her over if they had a wife is really insane. like those people have no limit to their personal agendas. if you see any videos about cops being hit up by sales people let me know?
There is an Herbalife smoothie shop owned by a really sweet family and I love their protein shakes so much and I cringe at myself but I can’t help it I love that shop so much😩
“The whole purpose of creating a business if making yourself duplicable” I’m such an idiot!! I thought it was to make money 😢
😂😂😂😂
You're totally right about the snacks at MLM parties being delicious. My mother brought me along to a Premier Designs party like 15 years ago that had a key lime cheese ball that I'm still thinking about today. Unfortunately, I'll never be able to get the recipe for that cheese ball because the host who was trapped in the MLM was a woman trying to pay for her cancer treatments. She passed about two years after that.
"Lady Car Dealers" would be a good name for an indie rock band.
and now, the Lady Car Dealers with "You'll Feel Safe Here (Among The Predators)."
They're a strange band but I love them.
my aunt did LuluRoe and i just remember my mom watching her livestream and she would have boxes and boxes on her shelf’s and like show the leggings and then everyone would comment like “Oh any smalls lefts?” she made good money off it until they got shut down…
There's around 80% of others moms I met that were in MLM's, thats so bad for the society in general. You can't even trust someone to go to a playdate with kids, because their reason to meet can be taking you down with them on the MLM scam XD
The big hat reminds me of the Monat zoom meeting where all 3 Monat reps were wearing those hats inside on the call
Omg I love u so much for saying “dicking around”. I say it all the time but have never heard anyone outside of my family use it! 😂
My mom and her friends were in an MLM for candles and the parties where they sold the most were always without a doubt the “I’m quitting and trying to get rid of my excess supplies” parties. All of the sudden all those people who weren’t convinced on the product were dying to buy the marked down products.
I actually worked for a startup company for a year that made me watch like a lot of mlm training videos and stuff like that and I left after they were unable to pay me for 6 months and it started to get real cult like. Also as someone who suffers from irritable bowel syndrome it really annoys me that people are turning the whole gut microbiome thing into mlm schemes and things like that as it is just a standard thing that my dietitian helps me out with and it shouldn't be exploited by people looking to make quick money.
The teen i mentor had a boss who tried to convince her to be his downline for a mortgage company.
Its one of the only times i told her that doing something a trusted adult told her to do is going to ruin her.
I hate that guy. 15 year olds don't even know that different types of interest exist. They are not qualified to do mortgages
omg i live in West Michigan and Grand Rapids is literally MLM town, everything is named after Van Andel and Devos..its le worst
The call with your Mom was so funny! She's adorable.
This reminds me of when a cutco higher up or whatever of a high schooler that went to high school with me that I told I was interested in the job, consistently begged me to join cutco texting me constantly even when I wasn’t responding. Shit is freaky. Cus I wasn’t even 18 and he was well above 21+
+ my mom sold Mary Kay and aloette as a single mom but never made a single cent
@@Chris-xu4ypThat had to be tough.
Glad your video was suggested to me. Love it
Ngl this is the second video of yours I’ve come across and had to subscribe when I saw you weren’t afraid to call out MLMs💕💕
Okay but why did every Utah mom force on guard on their kids. I’m 28 and my mom still tells me to put it behind my ears when I’m sick. 😂
hahahahahha FACTSSSS
Your face during the entire Christine video 😭 PLZ
This reminds me of an episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit about MLMs. There was a guy who they profiled that was in the hole trying out an MLM and they figured out that he would have been up the same amount working minimum wage at McDonald’s
if that, honestly
I’ll never forget when my family moved back to my hometown when I was in middle school and one of my older sister’s old classmates came to our house with Mary Kay and I was just starting to get into make up. She kept telling me I could be a model while she was doing my makeup. Then my mom bought me skincare off of her for me as well as some makeup for both of us. 3 days after using the cleanser and toner I started breaking out into red bumps all over my face. I stopped using everything we got from her and looked up Mary Kay and that’s when I learned what an MLM was.
“Probably so many lives were ruined for this drink…. 😁!”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your mom at the end was so sweet aw 🥹
“I love smells” I relate to this so much 😂
Same 😂😭
A girl I knew from summer camp tried to recruit me into “It Works!” over Instagram a few years ago. I politely declined, and I very gently asked her like “hey, are you actually making money from this? Because MLMs are really good at taking advantage of people, I just wanna make sure you’re keeping yourself safe financially” and her response was vague but very kind.
Turns out, she was fighting an unknown chronic illness and deeply in the closet. She was a perfect target, and I’m so happy for her that she got out and seems to be doing a lot better now.
(Also, it’s hilarious to me that an MLM called themselves “It Works!” It’s like they’re trying to get ahead of people like “we promise we’re legit!!! We’re a real company don’t worry about it!!!”)
I went to high school with a guy that sells herbalife. He's actually doing really really well for himself and opened his own juice bar. He's the only person I've ever met in any MLM that is doing OK in any way. I'm not saying anyone should sell herbalife or join any MLM because you most likely will lose money, it just kind of blows my mind to see even one person be successful doing any of this
Thanks for explaining the gut health = weight loss code. I'm autistic and I've been so confused by the marketing and ingredients of some of these products 😂 that makes so much sense, thanks!
I did plexus and it totally wrecked my stomach lmao. I have horrific acid reflux ever since I used it 👍🏻 it makes me so sad when I see Christine and Janelle pushing it
Right?!?! Me too! I have horrible acid reflux and plexus made it so much worse.
If you're interested in learning more about MLMs and hearing more horror stories, I can't recommend Hannah Alonzo's channel enough! Thanks for bringing this topic to more people Tyler!
I’m really enjoying your long form content
Some of the ladies my mom was friends with did Tupperware and Pampered Chef just long enough for everyone to get some of the goods for discounted prices and got out
True boss ladies
Nooo you really had to go there with the “scarcity mindset” that phrase gave me flashbacks.
you’re so funny sometimes you make a really good joke and i have the urge to pull you into a hug and congratulate you for saying such funny shit
Hahahaha wait this was such a confidence boost thank you!!
This was so funny and true. I remember somebody trying to get me to sell amway, and they literally drew me a pyramid. I was like nah this isn’t good.
my mom and grandma are part of an mlm (melaleuca) and i was like this is a pyramid scheme and my mom was like no actually ☝️ it’s not a pyramid scheme it was investigated by the government and was found not guilty so actually it’s a cool and normal company 😀. and i was like….it was investigated by the gov…and that doesn’t concern you??? anyways now all of our cleaning supplies, body products, vitamins, protein powder, protein bars, and popcorn are from the damn mlm 😭
“Ok Christine that water bottle looks like a giant test tube”🤣🤣