Noisy miners: when good birds go bad | The Secret Lives Of Our Urban Birds
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Had some miners in an old workplace that declared war on their reflection. One would see the window, alarm call goes up, entire mob arrive, only to be met by equal numbers in mirror.
Who won?
The window repair/replacement guy.
You can moderate the dominance of noisy mynahs by encouraging other bird species to move in and bully out the mynahs, ones that are territorial but don't engage in mobbing that often.
My family home was once mynah dominated, however after a heatwave we left out a bowl of water and hung up a block of wild bird seed.
Some rainbow lorikeets settled in the area and started a family, and as they're larger, bullied the mynahs; not enough for them to leave permanently but enough for them to keep away from the verandah most of the day and in smaller numbers when any other bird was around.
The bird seed also encouraged Eastern Rosellas and King parrots among other birds, and with the Mynahs being present in smaller numbers, the Rosellas actually bullied them away from time to time.
Rainbow Lorikeets seem to be great at keeping mynahs in their place within moderation, as they will only bully if the mynahs encroach on their food source when they're eating. Simultaneously, the presence of seed attracts other seed-eating birds, who can feed outside the times Lorikeets are feeding.
Interesting...
Something to keep in mind when it comes to conservation
@@attilaabonyi8879 rainbow lorikeets are a great example
Unfortunately, lorikeets are even noisier
Myself and some work mates manage to save an Eastern Rosella that was knocked out of the sky and swooped even when he wasn't moving. Got him to a nearby RSPCA and he was okay but it was brutal to watch. As soon as he recovered they went after him again, swooping right past us as we tried to catch him and help him. It was bananas. Plant some native shrubbery and ground cover in your gardens, give the other birds a chance!
Didn't even consider that the type of trees we choose in our backyard could have such a big impact, definitely gonna have to come back to this video whenever I decide on a new tree!
I had a family of these birds in the trees of a property I moved into in Morphettville in 2017.
They were extremely noisy, defensive and would swoop me whenever I came out into the garden area.
I noticed there were Mudlarks and Magpies close by so I encouraged them into my garden with a bird bath and minced beef.
Soon the Noisy Miners were driven out.
I didn't realise they are a native species however they were quite annoying.
The Magpies and Mudlarks on the other hand were very polite and grateful to me.
haha that's funny, the mudlarks and magpies were more dominant, however the mudlarks compete very hard against the magpies. I love the magpies though as well as mudlarks, they're both very prevalent but don't seem as nasty about their goings about, like they understand we gotta coexist in some measure 😅
@@Dazzwidd Yes agreed. At one point I had 5 Magpies, 2 mudlarks (male & female) and a Willie Wagtail all in the one area, nice green lawn however I did feed them minced beef.
I stopped doing that when I found out how harmful it is. Now I only feed maggies live crickets when I visit them.
And when I had those three species in my garden that day they all got along well, no fighting. 😉
Small projectiles can also assist at moving on the Miner population ;)
@@evanb8495 Yes I read that. Somebody suggested I purchase a Water pistol.
Lol
The Mudlarks and Magpies did my job for me.
I don't hate them as they are a native species but as I was new there they probably thought 'Oh we better show this guy that we own this area.
😉
One tip; don’t feed them mince by itself. Magpies usually subsist on a diet of worms, grubs, small insects, etc, and get their calcium and trace elements from the carapaces of these meals. I use an insectivore powder called Wombaroo, mixed with 18% fat content mince, and a tiny amount of water to turn it into a chunky slurry. Also, unsalted peanuts and pear pieces are very welcomed.
I think thats a better use of land than another golf course. Genius idea. 😊
It's not just the small birds either; I live near a bush reserve & parkland and have seen large gangs of them swoop, harass & chase-off not only Magpies & Currawongs, but even Crows, Sulphur-crested Cockatoos and Kookaburras.
I have their cousins in my yard the Yellow Throated Miner, and they not as aggressive. Pity the Noisy Miner doesn't focus its attention to the Indian Mynah, an introduced and very obnoxious bird which have spread across eastern Australia.
Normal miners are unbelievable obnoxious compared to the indian varient.. but i heard the Indian variant will displace native nesting sites of other birds.
The New Zealand Tui is in the same family (Meliphagoidea) as the noisy miner , and they are also very territorial. However, they don't form mobs as they are generally solitary
Just a few days ago the tui that lives in my garden chased an Indian Mynah into a glass window pane at full speed.
The tui ,which was about 300mm behind the mynah, turned away with millimeters to spare. The mynah was stunned and on the ground below the window. I expected it to die ,but was surprised to see it fly off after half an hour.
I often watch this tui chase swallows around the garden. The tui is 4 x the size of a swallow but can stay right on ones tail and match one in manoeuvrability
*Noisy miners: when good birds go bad... ABSOLUTELY💯*
Sydney Nth Shore: Indian Mynahs came through first, really bad from the 1980's when they started attacking people to make them drop their lunch (!). Once the Indian Mynahs had driven all the smaller birds out - only pigeons, currawongs and magpies in any numbers with seasonal crows - then the Noisy Mynahs turned up from the late 1990's and largely drove off the Indian Mynahs (the Indian Mynahs used to nest in my neighbour's roof, now totally gone). The Noisy Mynahs even 'treed' my neighbour's cat on my front fence, lining up on the power line and 'dive bombing' him, he didn't dare move. I've also observed them over the local golf course attacking hawks at high altitude, 6 or so Mynahs to the hawk. Now the Currawongs seem to have given up, along with the crows, only seen one or two in the last few years.
Exactly, North side councils in Sydney and other places have dropped the ball big time. They are supposed to employ all those eco this and biodiversity that but do nothing much to control animal populations like this to give all species a chance.
Bandicoots, white cockatoo and bush turkeys proliferate, with those mynahs of any kind and nothing else thrives no matter what we plant in our garden.
I am very lucky my noisy miners live along side the birds around me but then I live on the outskirts of a very small town and I planted some very bushy bushes for the smaller birds my biggest problem is the Indian Miner Bird when I moved here 12 years ago there were no Indian Miner Birds in the area at all but I noticed over a period of 5 years of driving between Sydney and the home I now live in I noticed the encroachment of the Indian Miner Birds spreading along the highway and the back roads little by little now 12 years we have over 30 plus Indian Miner Birds just in our part of town alone.
Nah the Indian Minah is positively benign compared to these monstrous native thugs. The Noisy Miner needs to be culled if we want some birdy balance bought back into our lives.
Angela, look at bird bath
Check with your local authority, council or Dept of Ag as they are not a protected species and humane trapping and euthanasia may be allowed.
Good luck.
They killed my pet birds that flew away into a tree. They’re the fucken worst birds ever
@@zzodysseuszz look at bird bath
When I was 15 years old, I watched noisy minors in Toombul park in Brisbane attack a big grey Persian cat. They waited until the cat was in the middle of the park with nowhere to run and hide and they mobbed it so ferociously that the cat just lost the plot, rolled over on its' back and gave up. The birds actually landed on the ground beside the cat and pecked at it with no fear at all and the cat didn't even try to fight back. It took the cat the good part of an hour to gradually creep to safety across the park. It was an amazing thing to see and I'm more than sure that cat never ventured into the park during the day ever again.
They can't harass the smaller birds if the habitat is right! Everywhere I've gone that actually has dense understory is packed with small birds, but the urban parkland prioritise grass and visibility over good habitat. Noisy miners are clever, social, adaptable birds and they're much more personable than people realise, because we made the situation that makes them so out of balance.
Out of curiosity, is the lerp maintainence intentional? It reminds me of ants farming aphids for honeydew
Love seeing more green spaces in our cities. No idea the native minah did that
David Marsh, look at bird bath
@@BirdBath1they are not a mynah or minah - different bird. They are a miner
Ive only had a good relationship with this species, they let me hand feed them and a baby one flew to me and let me hold it and i took it back to its parents
Maybe but in truth to other birds they are satanic bullies, they will gang up and bully other birds even when they dont fight over the same food
It's sad to see the little birds go after the minars take over. Something I've noted over my lifetime
Noisy Miners (Minas?) are brutes & bullies. I live in Adelaide's northern suburbs. We used to have sparrows in my neighbourhood & starlings. Gone! I first noticed Noisy Miners when I moved into this house, just down from my mum's old house after a decade living away. I adopted a rescue kitten. When she was old enough, I took my young cat on a lead to walk outside. Suddenly, 1,2,3... bird poop was dropped like bombs in a row in quick succession. Above me was a telephone wire to my house with 3 very noisy, bullying birds I'd not seen before. I was shocked at this mob mentality. I stopped taking cats for walks of my yard thanks to bullying & harassing Noisy Miners. Long gone are the New Holland Honey Eaters that used to flock to my birdbaths by the 20's at a time. I've seen them attack Australian Magpies, Murray Magpies, Rainbow Lorikeets (brutally so, obviously isolating it from the many others that live in my trees & neighbourhood). I've seen them harass & attack a pasding Brushtail Possum during Covid-19's first Anzac Day 6am on the driveway event in 2020. These Miners are taking over... not helped by neighbours cutting down trees, builders removing all trees, and termite-ridden council trees falling over in 2 separate wind storms this year. It's a crying shame. Yes, pigeons numbers are dropping off. It hasn't stopped Galahs eating my lawn. Less Sulphur Crested Cockatoos fly over around sunrise & sunset. I used to see & hear Wattle Birds. But seeing these monsters mob-attack birds (& pets), pester birds in flight relentlessly, no matter their size (although there's no smaller birds left in my neighbourhood, mistly only birds bigger than them), I'd like to see these pests culled. I haven't seen a Willie Wagtail in my neighbourhood in decades. Yes, some is tree reduction. But, the Noisy Miners continue to be here. I hate those birds. They're attackers & killers of birds I love. It's time the Federal Government takes a decision regarding these birds for the future of other birds. Again, it breaks my heart to see so many varieties of birds leave, and be brutally pursued & bullied by these birds. Again, I never knew about these birds until they went to harass my cat by a coordinated poop-attack the moment we stepped out the door, with her on a lead (pre pet harness days). I'd like to see a control of their numbers & dominance. It's past time. They've become mob killers. It grieves me to no longer see or hear the New Holland Honeyeaters, and similar or smaller birds in the garden. I used to have 100+ Rainbow Lorikeets and a dozen Australian Magpies in my shady backyard on the extreme heatwave days, along with many pigeons and other birds. They were drawn by the shade, quiet, lots of birdbaths & no dogs. I doubt I'll see those numbers again, thanks to the new development on my boundary removing all of the trees on their side if the fence. I still have my giant trees, and also shrubs - both which the Rainbow Lorikeets love... but the Noisy Miners have discovered they like my shrubs now, too - grr! I'll be planting more bushes or small trees to sgade my garden again, once the house(s) next door is/are complete, so I can evaluate what's best to plant, given new limitations (including rain collection - the guy wants his entire property to be covered in cement, which could even affect my existing trees re water sourcing). Anyway, Noisy Miners aren't just that former Melbourne golf course's problem. They're a pest everywhere. It needs to be addressed for the sake of our other native birdlife. Maybe sterilisation, if not culling. They're killing our other birds & enrichment of those birds in our metropolitan backyard gardens. Please think bigger than this Melbourne gold course. Noisy Miners are pests, bullies & killers everywhere.
We've created the environment that they thrive in.
We have to completely change the way we manage public green spaces
Noisy Miners are native and sparrows and starlings are invasive pests, so in other words that's not a problem.
These bugger actually attack and try to drive off my dog - who is a 23kg Staffy Bull Terrier - at our local park. They swoop him, chase him make noises at him. He sort of ignores them. I thought they were just playing but now I am re-assessing that assumption big time.
The best part of the video was seeing another damned golf course reclaimed for real nature.
Such an amazing smart bird I have an aviary of Budgerigars and they dart beak first into the wire luckily it’s hardened 2cm square wire otherwise they’d be gone also having a couple of felines that helps keep them away
I live in the Flinders Ranges on acres where Noisy Miners work with Magpies to patrol the area and alert the Magpies and other small bird of the presence of predators like Cats Foxes, Raptors and humans. I have never observed them attacking the other small Birds????
I know when my cat comes out into the backyard - the noisy mynahs goes crazy.
This report is brilliantly aligned with a certain part of Australia, who are currently transforming an old golf course, that happens to also be a noisy miner dominion… called Rosny Park.
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The noisy miner is a great example of why native is not always the most desirable inhabitant of an ecosystem
Not native, they were introduced
@@oodleyboo Not introduced, they are native to Australia. You may be thinking of the Indian Myna, which is an introduced species.
@@oodleyboothe brown one is introduced. These guys are native, it clearly stated at the beginning of the video
My current area has chill ones but the ones in Chatswood hounded me every dog walk for 3 years, even when I didn't have the dog. Even after I returned a fallen chick to its tree. I hate that family of birds so much.
I asked my supervisor if we could shoot the Miner birds with a Nerf Gun. She said NO! So, I guess it's back to throwing rocks at them LOL.
Don't blame the birds. We clear vast tracks of native habitat and continue to do so despite knowing the impact this has on species and ecological processes. I have a layered native garden that allows all birds including miners to live together in my garden. Same argument for the bell miners too. It's our actions that are to blame for the imbalance.
I have a 2/3 acre property just north of Sydney, this backs onto several hundred acres of wetland. I have been an ardent bird watcher and protector since buying this property 45 years ago. I have planted many native trees being several species of Lilly Pilly, many types of Gravillia, Bottle brush and other natives + 4 species of large 14m eucalypt and tea tree. Thing is I also have 4 species of large timber bamboo and 6 species of small and intermediate bamboos all being of the clumping variety. In this mix are two very large 14m Liquid ambers. Not to mention Alexander and Bangalow palms. What I want to say is the exotics have played a pivotal roll in bringing in so much wildlife into my property. The liquid ambers provide a huge food reserve for Crested pigeons, Bronze wings, Galah, Sulphur crested, Corellas, Brushtailed possums, and the bamboo provides massive cover for the numerous small birds such as Red tailed fire brows, Yellow robins, Grey wagtails Whip birds and Satin bower birds and several others I've yet to identify. Its the bamboo that has had such a sudden and obvious impact and I think sometimes we need to add exotics of the right type such as these even if just until the real natives 'thicken up' and establish. One of my large bamboos had no less than 4 'small bird' nests and the others are frequently visited by many small birds taking advantage of the dense shelter. Our honey eaters are the Lewyn, Yellow cheeked, Blue faced, Eastern spine bill, Brush wattle bird and of course the Noisey minors and thankfully all seem in a balance due to the large amount of hideouts. Just a thought..
best way to go. plant native plants, get native animals. I got no problem with the miners. Mynas on the other hand... they don't fare so well 😂
The Karen's of the bird world.
Izzy, look at bird bath
are they introduced ?
They even give the magpies a hard time where I live. I saw some the other day trying to mob a Darter, which eats fish, so they just have that aggression in their nature unfortunately.
I saved a little green lorikeet from a gang of these youths. They swooped and tackled him to the ground and were pecking his stomach. I managed to scare them off. When I got to there he was still on his little back but then looked up at me and flew off. I think he was surprised to be alive to be honest.
Birds: peck it
Humans: bomb it.
Birds: have wings
Humans: can’t crap on birds.
I rescued a noisy miner when it fell from the nest. It has survived the first 24 hours. What do they eat
There's a pack of them near my office in Alice Springs. I've seen them chase ravens three times their size.
19:32 22 August 23, Fitzgibbon Brisbane. These little fellows hate the sulphur crested cockatoo and their mobbing noise lets me know when Cocky 1 arrives and I will go out to make sure that there is food for them. I feed magpies, butcher birds, and minahs all with mince, and several varieties of parrots with seeds. The minahs are very diligent insect hunters. When I moved in here, the plants in the garden were full of holes, grasshoppers. No insect damage now. Of course, I provide just enough to keep the birds interested, no more.
The wrens and finches disappeared after the council began spraying pathside grass locally.
We noticed NMs would nest in several trees around our property in Rosanna. When I found a nest I would destroy it and it's eggs. If it was out of reach, I'd turn the hose on it until it fell to pieces. We had other beautiful birds visiting our garden, but the NMs were often trying to attack them or scare them off. I was told the NMs were a protected species because they are native to Australia. They didn't get any protection on my patch.
I back onto a creek in Adelaide, that is a nexus point for birds in the neighborhood. I haven't seen territorial swooping on smaller birds, but I have seen it on crows, falcon and hawks. These local miners would bomb my rottweiler when I walked her, totally ignoring me. She would jump at them, and after years of seeing it I came to the conclusion that it became something of a game for a couple of the miners, rather than a communal defensive act.
I love the noisy minors and their team work ... this video does not take into account that the birds dont stay passive when chassed by others .. They will run away .. I have many noisy minor in my garden sharing space with other birds. The problem is this park is too open and not bushy enough to protect the small species of birds.
You know when u bring a dog into a Noisy Miner's territory, it sounds hilariously like they are shounting DOG!! DOG! DOG! DOG! DOG! DOG! repeatedly.
3 years a family of 10 miners hounded me every dog walk. I never once heard 'dog'.. only the sound of a whiny alarm bell permanently ingrained into my brain. Is it a coincidence I have tinnitus now?
Most of the parks just don't have dense undergrowth,where small birds can survive and noisy miners don't like Barassi park in docklands,on top of the city has good understorey and no noisy miners,superb fairy wrens,new Holland honeyeaters,white-plumed honeyeaters all inhabit this area
Me: It's a beautiful day. Blue skies and birds chirping
Nature: Get tf out! / Hey woman, choose me!
Chesrae, look at bird bath
Miners are particulary agressive to birds that eat psylids. They are psylid farmers.
I h8 those birds.
Noisy Miners also swoop: attacking from behind like magpies.
Love Noisy Minors Cheeky birds, I call them Gangster Meerkats of the bird world.
I have a crew of these guys round my place in seqld. They used to swoop my cat every time she went outside, she'd come screaming back inside through the cat door scared shitless. After years now she likes to lay on her back in the grass in the backyard and she'll bat at them with her paw as they try to swoop. It's like a game to her. Whack to noisey, swoopy guys outta the sky. 😆
Wow I didn’t know noisy miners were native. I thought they were introduced because they look similar to the brown one
Drone hunter killers needed to thin out the Myna riff raff
BlondeGirlSez This, look at bird bath
The Noisy Miner is an awesome little bird.
No Indian Mynas in our area.
Michelle Maher, look at bird bath
Not sure if true, but Noisy Miners are native Australian species that have increased in aggressiveness since introduction of other competitive birds such as the common or Indian Myna? I know, its a lot to take in in.. "This weekend at Australia's Dustbowl Stadium, the local Noisy Miners are taking the slightly less annoying but equally unliked imports, the Indian Mynas!.. in the 'Country of Origin - Seriously where's my 303 rifle' Cup. Where the crowd are hoping both side lose!!!" Honestly, Noisy Miners don't deserve to wear the green and gold!
See them in groups driving out larger birds as thry say here needs more layers of bush among urban areas. Everyone should plant more appropriate species
If u look at an untouched forest, right there u have your design for natures balance.
Miners are awful. Saved a pet canary from miners, they were just relentlessly attacking it so I just ran over and grabbed it up and took it to the vet. So this doesn't really surprise me though. What can we do though?
RobinCoffins, look at bird bath
Plant small, dense shrubs/bushy plants. Dense, native, bramble-like shrubs. This allows the small birds to live there instead of the miners and gives them shelter and protection from them. Don't leave out food/bird food that's easily accessible as the miners will just come and eat it and chase everything else away, meaning all you're doing is providing extra food to miners. Instead of leaving food for birds just plant the appropriate shrubbery/plants.
we have a couple of indian miners and i call them the gangsters.i have a bird bath set up and none of the birds take crap from them,they try to dominate the bath.a big tawney frogmouth stopped for a drink and the minors did their thing but the frogmouth i swear was just laughing at them,like really guys f off.the fairy wrens we have , have a plan,the male flys down next to the minors pretending he has a broken wing,the minors go for him but he flys a short distance minors follow,thats when all the other wrens come for a drink and quick scratch around the grass.
kevin wheatley, look at bird bath
So why are the Indian myna birds overrunning Melbourne urban gardens? I’ve never seen the native mynah bird in my garden. I thought the grey mynah was timid. Not by the way they gang up on other birds that come unto their patch.
Increasing urbanisation is giving them a niche. Middle suburbia is perfect for them.
I’ve seen them fight off a kookaburra.
I’ve saw them terrorize cats in Melbourne in 1994.
The one bird species I have not seen the noisy miners tackle is kookaburras. We have both species (as well as others) around our area near Jells Park. The noisy miners even try to bully the cockatoos but they give the kookaburras a wide berth.
Not to be pedantic, but at 5:23 that would be 'slivers of green'; slithers belong to snakes. But love your work.
They have destroyed bird life in Sydney as well, I think the noisy myna is far worst than the Indian myna . In our parks there is no bird life just silence very sad
the noisy miner doesn't do that, it's creating open parks and spaces that gives small birds no cover so they don't nest there. It's horrible and totally incorrect to blame this on the native Noisy Miner (NOT "myna")
@@Sinsteel sorry I ment miner , I have been a bird watcher ,bird lover ,for decades but since the noisy miners moved into parks and suburbs many other birds have disappeared e.g. where I live in southwest Sydney sparrows have disappeared ,the miners are extremely territorial ,they even come and attack my aviary birds,,I know they are native birds but they have chased all other small species away,and we have plenty of trees and bushes for them to hide in,
Somehoe I am very convinved, that the aggro-birds are behaving like this, because of human interention. lack of proper habitat, scarcity of habitat all together....
Yeah, yeah. it's *all* our fault, you just *KNOW* it!!!
In the U.S. the English Sparrows attack and run off bluebirds from my custom birdhouses. I thought the sparrows were awful before I saw this video, but at least they let other birds wave a white flag and head for the sunset. Seeing how they operate, I wonder if you could set up your decoy surrounded by that real fine netting. You could catch a dozen at once and 'relocate' them.
Good idea about the netting. We have sparrows in plague proportions around our place.
2:22 showtime
I parked my car under a tree in the street once and a gang of them descended on my car and started pecking on my windscreen wipers. I sounded the horn.. They flew away and then returned. I just moved away
Reality is so awkwardly awesome...
Zwgrafakhs Andrianos, look at bird bath
@@BirdBath1sell me on it
I've seen these noisy miners dive-bombing other species in the backyard
CoolAsFreya, look at bird bath
This bird pisses me off because they are well, noisey as hell. Magpies next to my house seem to mitigate the area though
Feelincrispy, look at bird bath
Protecting their home's and families from invaders What do you expect them to do.
@Cas Rich So you pretend to know the mindset of the noisy miner say they want one hundred percent. 😆 They get along fine with magpies both native bird's. Get ride of the introduced bird's that will leave more room for the other's
@@neilhamill318 Stay inside and lock their doors. They should be safe from pardalotes there.
@@Plethora_of_Paucity bird's tend to not have any doors to Lock on their nests. WTF
@@neilhamill318 You claim the miners are protecting their homes from invaders, when in fact Neil, it’s the miners that are the antagonists. No birds are invading their nests. WTF backatcha.
@@Plethora_of_Paucity Any bird that isn't native is an invader
They have positive,s if a snake is about they'll carry on,other territorial birds magpies butcher birds will gather they'll all swoop peck at the snake..they're the first ones to spot Eagles circling,let all the birds know,off they hide.
If one of them swooped me I’d still try to kidnap it 💀💀💀
Hi 4:57
Noisy miner needs to be culled to a acceptable level so to give some chance to other birds🤔
We must all do our part.. why the hell do they have protected status?!
They are monsters. I've seen them knock babies out of nests
They do that deliberately as the chicks spend several days on the ground.
Based miners
Look at bird bath
🐝🍉
I saw one of them taking on two ravens, three/four times their size. Awful.
@@murph_mustela Look at bird bath
Noisy miners let all the other birds know about airborne predators. They also let everyone know about cats, snakes, dogs, humans, lizards or anything else that is "out of order". Bellbirds drive other birds out of the rainforests. Apostle birds harass cats and sometimes even dogs and form mobs to frighten off more timid birds. Currawongs will hunt smaller birds to death. Kookaburras eat other bird young. Ravens and crows will torment at risk birds and tire them out, contributing to dinner later. This video sounds like a witch hunt. What about cuckoos? They straight up throw the young/or eggs of other birds out, and take over the nest with their own, tricking the former parents of the murdered chick into raising their own, and then keep you awake all night with their call. If we cause the imbalance, then it's all on us.
Those New Holland Honeyeaters they show in the video do the same thing as those miners to Eastern Spinebills in my garden. They still sneak around and get a feed though. People think nature is like what they see in Disney cartoons.
@@stephenw2992 Exactly. Someone related a story once of seeing clouds of beautiful butterflies alighted on the corpse of a dead cow. Gathering moisture/blood. Male ducks can drown females in their quest to mate. People stand at the picture window and say "How beautiful Nature is" but forget that injury in nature likely means death, so getting beaten up and pecked by a rival bird species could be the end of that bird, regardless if it flies away. But that's just how it goes.
@Cas Rich The academics say everything is ruining the biodiversity, its how they earn a living
Noisy miners are an important part of the ecosystem but the problem is that there are too many of them now. Their numbers have increased far beyond what is natural because we have replaced virgin ecosystems with those that benefit the miners most. So now smaller bird species are struggling more than they naturally would be. That's why we need to possibly cull them and also plant more sheltering, dense shrubbery (which used to exist but was cleared for parks etc.)
It's a bit like the deer in Yellowstone. They are native but because the wolves were gone their numbers increased beyond what was natural and they were damaging the landscape and native plants.
Its a double edged sword, i have noisy miners in my area as well as rosellas. Lorikeets, magpies and other naitives. I used to dislike the miners but then saw an indian mynah turn up in my yard, the indian mynahs are easily spotted very near my house but when they turn up in my or my neighbours yards they are sent packing very hastily. Better the devil you know sometimes.
Unfortunate for the other birds but very difficult to blame the miners. They are just doing the best that they can in environments dominated by humans, and doing it very well. They don't cause these problems in natural, well balanced ecosystems. It's our fault.
No, it's not our fault that they can exploit an opening in a niche better than the other birds.
Stop guilt tripping.
They have a nest in Blacktown station. Soo annoying at platform when taking trains to city. 🤕😡😡
They’d be Indian mynas. Invasive, non-native species and unrelated to noisy miners.
Play a hawk noise
I didnt like these birds but now have no problem with them as they give warning calls to my pigeons as soon as they see falcon or hawk. And my pigeons have enough time to keep clear or land
What plants again? She Oak, Wattle, ?Gum
Bell Miners are terrible too
I have pest solutions card so I can tell the pest controler to kill noisy native miner. They always attack our friendly pigeon.
Noisy minors have swooped aggressively aiming for my face, and attacked my dog in my own backyard
They don't attack figs in backyards if it's their home territory.. breeding season, they will attack your dog.. throw a few crumbs.. problem solved
they attack people too.
We call them crazy minors
How can we know and find the right trees for the birds in my area 🙄
Your local Shire or Council's environmental department might be able to help. Some of them produce pamphlets suggesting some native species suitable for your local garden and bird habitat. Or you could try asking at your nearest indigenous nursery. They are usually staffed by friendly people who would be happy to give you some advice (and sell you some plants of course). :P
Look at bird bath
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So just..eat the miners(don't)
Remove their protected status.. problem solved. Well, legally now 😅
Choosing the right plant is far, far easier said than done, Not everyone is an ecologist, not everyone has encyclopaedic knowledge of bird species, nor of their interactions, which interactions are good, which are bad. Nor does everyone have encyclopaedic knowledge of tree species, tree families, or even the differences between shrubs. bushes and trees. Not so easy for the average person, almost impossible for anyone as thick as I am.
.. What? This is a video about the mynah bird, bot. Get with the program.
Air rifles sort them out nicely
i watched one of these birds kill a baby duck years ago
it ripped a large chunk of skin off its head the baby duck died a slow and painful death
I hope any planted small shrubbery thrives and in turn provides protection and sanctuary for the smaller bush birds. Mono cultures of birds and plants are the result of our own doings. Diversity is paramount or you can kill off an entire species.
Well, it is not really that the Noisy Miner’s are bad. It is humans who create an unsuitable environment. I’m not sure it is a healthy perspective to demonize those birds. Hopefully this video will lead to more bushes and shrubbery being planted than Noisy Miners being harassed/killed.
marinus86, look at bird bath
They have taken over the domain of my yard, no sparrows or black birds allowed, none.
Who designed that park? an architect? how old are those gums already and at the point of recording it still wasn't being rectified. Oh well I'd just bring in a family of hawks. The Minors whole demeanor would change, they'd go from listening to thing to pick on to listening to thing to avoid
It's our fault they're like that.
They're just better at surviving in the environment that we've created
i see these birds bullying humans
Like some people I know- bullies