@@scottsauce315 What matters: Repent and follow Christ Jesus! Praise King Jesus Christ✝❤ Pray to Jesus! Have Faith in Jesus! Get Baptized in Jesus Name! Read the Bible! Lean on Jesus! Jesus loves you and knows you by name! Christ Jesus is knocking at your door! Let Him in! Jesus saves✝❤🙏💪
@@ParkerBG What matters: Repent and follow Christ Jesus! Praise King Jesus Christ✝❤ Pray to Jesus! Have Faith in Jesus! Get Baptized in Jesus Name! Read the Bible! Lean on Jesus! Jesus loves you and knows you by name! Christ Jesus is knocking at your door! Let Him in! Jesus saves✝❤🙏💪
@ And you have commented back on quite a few of them yourself…it seems that I have claimed stake to some space in your head as well 😂 Facts got you big mad 😂
We're discussing the evolution of Chiefs' legacies and Eagles' legacies-rightfully so-but what about the evolution of Chiefs-Eagles as a rivalry? This is the fourth straight year these teams are meeting, despite being in different conferences. Has that even happened before? On top of that, they're set to play each other again in the next regular season. That's five in a row! This has the makings of a whole new kind of rivalry.
@@JosephJackson-fm7lr there's not going to be any strategy. They're not going to be able to score enough points to matter. They'll be so far behind the strategizing & the amount of time mostly have won't really make a difference. But yay two timeouts
@@TCrimson05t that’s what u hope but yall defense over rated and yall play zone look at our numbers vs zone we score more vs zone than man and when u switch to man we got to speed guys Hollywood and worthy good luck with zone defense and man 😂
The Eagles will be able to say they beat both Brady and the Pats, and Mahomes and the Chiefs. Beating both dynasties, and getting revenge on both after losing to both teams their first match up
@@scottsauce315 Or maybe if you used a few more brain cells you would realize the Chiefs are actually that good...The whole ref argument shows how miserable fans are because they can't handle their success
Be mad at the refs not the chiefs u mad they just winning if u don't like the calls get mad at refs chiefs have nothing to do with that as u know chiefs are the most penalized team in the NFL throughout the game and even in the 4th in crucial moments if you are that mad tell your team to put up more points and beat us refs don't work for us stats prove that @@scottsauce315
If Chiefs win.... They are by far the best Dynasty in History... 4 SBs in 7 seasons Chiefs worst year in Patrick Mahomes era is a OT loss in AFC Championship game in 7 seasons. Where will they be after 10 seasons in Mahomes era??? What happens if they go back next year?
As a Chefs fan, I'm just glad they won 1 SB in my lifetime. 3 (going on 4) is just gravy. Is Mahomes better than Brady? I don't care. Case in point, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have SB's. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino don't. SB's are not the bench mark for great QB's. What I do care a little bit about is Andy Reid. Dude is a HOF coach and the way Philly treated him was infuriating. Now, they ended up getting one without him but they're on what, there 4th coach since Big Red?
As a fan who grew up during the Reid in Philly era, the end had a lot to do with Reid too. He had consistently terrible time management issues, QB position wasn’t as good as he had it before in McNabb’s peak and he’d been getting bounced in the playoffs, they just came off a 4 win season. His o-line coach became his DC and it was a mess. Looked a lot like Belichick at the end once Brady was gone. Sometimes both parties just need a fresh start. With that being said, Reid being in the all-time winningest HCs is cool to see.
@@cjc36nyyI think it also showed he’s a head coach, not a front office guy. The pairing he has with Veach has been perfect in KC. Mahomes helps a bit too.
I could be bias as an eagles fan/andy reid fan. I think reid is the better coach between himself and belichick. Reid did so much more with so much less, the eagles offense in the 2004 superbowl is filled with no names and then Owens and then McNabb and westbrook. McNabb was a decent QB but putting him in the same stratum in terms of dominance at the position, it is nowhere close. Same thing now, he pretty much has patrick mahomes and an aging Kelce who are both GOAT contenders but kelce really has done much the past 2 seasons. What im trying to say is, even last year with the piss poor offensive threats except Pacheco, they managed to get it done, which is an insane accomplishment. I still believe the birds will win, though.
Agreed, except for the last sentence lol. Due to superb coaching, Chiefs can adjust their style to fit the players they have, and the defenses they face, rather than trying to force their players and game plan to work in a system that doesn’t fit a situation. The defense is so fluid that offenses just don’t know when or where the surprises will be coming at them from. I think KC has some of the smartest, most adaptable players in key positions in the NFL. And the coaches who are willing to let the truly talented ones (Chris Jones) the freedom to follow their instincts when the player smells something out. Smart all the way around.
I would like to see players other than QB get more fair consideration for superbowl MVP. QBs should still earn it if they play an excellent game or out of their mind, but it is usually pretty obvious when a defensive player or a receiver/running back deserves it more because the QB was just solid and put up stats because the pieces around them carried them.
I agree. Damien Williams, the RB of the 1st Chiefs superbowl win of this modern team, was the guy who really helped keep them in the game till the 4th quarter, when Mahomes finally got his game going.
The funniest thing about hearing all of the Sirianni stats is we all know the Eagles are gonna fire him in less than 5 seasons because they’ll have one bad year 😂
Actually 4 players are still on the roster from 2017 Super Bowl. Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson, Jake Elliott and Rick Lovato. Get your facts straight sir
This segment would be more effective if it was split out into one segment devoted to each player, with rich reading the potential stats and the room discussing the narrative and feelings around each player or coach. The ways that our relationship to Andy Reid has changed. The way that our relationship to mahomes has evolved. Remind us what it was like when we first met mahomes. How we felt about him. How its evolved. I need narrative and discussion for the stats to matter and/or stick in my memory.
Andy Reid is the most interesting one for me. Especially with the narrative that followed him out of Philly when they lost all those conference championship games. Very similar to Bill Cowher’s legacy, although Andy has gone on to win significantly more after getting his first. He went from being Marv Levy to Bill Cowher to Bill Belichick.
the chiefs are trying to make history over the course of 3 seasons (only team to win 3 super bowls in a row) and the eagles are having a historical single season (best rushing team of all time with a win)
The frustrating thing is of course these 2 quarterbacks were going to meet again. 2 of the top competitors of their conference. Who is shocked or surprised by this?
Reid was best HC in the NFL and top 10 in wins all time pre Mahomes and Kelce was a 1st team All Pro both were already best in the league Mahomes made them GOATs it should be Mahomes giving thanks the Bears or some one else didn’t draft him(I say this as a Bears fan)
@@Anthony-yu5yzwell see there this other part called playoffs. Where Andy went to 4 straight NFC chmpsps. 80% of coaches never win 1 playoff game. Thats dominance man. Super Bowl wins isnt the end all be all to historic coaches. Unless ur just a casual
@@Anthony-yu5yzOk and? Reid overhauled 2 bad franchises and turned them into Super Bowl contenders he never got over the hump and won a title he also never had a great QB to pair with his offensive genius now he does
@@Anthony-yu5yz We've never seen Mahomes with another NFL coach so not exactly fair to bring that up. Brady proved he could win a Superbowl without Belichek. We don't know if Mahomes can without Reed.
No talk of GM's I see. Not to sound like I am devaluing the work of Nick Siranni but it needs to be said: Nick is the "CEO head coach". He didn't build the team or hire the coordinators. He was simply put in "in charge" and answerable to Owner Jeff Lurie and GM HOWIE ROSEMAN. Howie is responsible for building this team. I have never seen a coach less responsible for his good fortune than this man. Howie has assembled what many consider the most loaded and talented and complete roster in football. I agree. The lack of a SB trophy in 2022 and the potential lack of one in 2024 would be squarely put on the lack of high quality coach and/or QB. But Howie may have done enough this time with the additions of Fangio and Barkley and some great defensive picks to overcome those weak spots this year. We will see.
game honestly matters more for andy than pat. andy would have 4!!! noll won 4 with maybe the greatest long term roster assembled in the SB era. he might already be on SB era rushmore (bill, noll, walsh, landrey, he's passing one of those last two with a 4th)
Listen to Rich when he starts listing the legacy factors of Hurts. He’s on the list with Brady, Roethlisberger, Wilson and Mahomes. Anyone want to point out the differences in these names? Ok, I will. Brady, Roethlisberger, Wilson and Hurts all had historic defenses. Mahomes is the outlier, carrying average defenses for the better part of his career.
He couldn’t drown out Brady in the conference title game or the Super Bowl he lost to Brady. Brady beat you from the neck up, his mental talent was second to none
It’s nice of rich to try and polish this pumpkin but good lord is there an all time lack of excitement or heat on this match up. And sure I’m gonna watch but in much the same way I’d eat chili 19 times a month if I was in prison.
You’ll probably be surprised when it ends up as the most watched Super Bowl ever. Even if you don’t like the teams, Saquon might be the most exciting player in the sport this season, and people always tune in for dynasties.
@ yeah, too root for or against them, I.e., the patriots. This time people are just like, “meh”. Heck even the official nfl memes page was making fun of this matchup.
@@StillLearnin4332 and like I said we’re all gonna watch but you can’t tell me with a straight face these even comes close to the excitement of years past
Mahomes being 7 of 7 in the final possession of 4th quarters to win or tie in the playoffs is nuts though and I'm a Brady guy. Brady is 5 of 11 in those same clutch circumstances. Mahomes can lose and he's still at worst the third greatest QB ever.
As an eagles guy Andy Reid I believe will go down as the greatest coach. He has something bill doesn’t have which is taking multiple teams to a superbowl as a head coach. Of course bill was successful as a coordinator. I think Andy may win more championships than Bill. With that said it seems like hitting the jackpot with a generational talent makes it easier to be successful. Andy had Donovan in Philly, a really good qb. If he had a great qb he would have won here too.
Chiefs win or lose are still the best dynasty since the niners ....we got room to lose eagles do not they need this or forever be a josh Allen tht cnt beat the man we all call my homeboi
What odds? The NFL has decided the want Taylor to be on screen as much as possible so of course the Chiefs will win. The instructions for the referees to give Chiefs massive bias.
Patrick Mahomes could play like complete crap in the Superbowl and retire immediately afterwards and would still be a shoo-in for the hall of fame and regarded as one of the best ever. He's just piling on at this point and chasing Brady. The Eagles need it more. Winning the top championship for your sport crosses over a line. It raises the profile of good players who would otherwise not be in the hall of fame discussion. Meanwhile not winning one tends to haunt hall of famers. You always get "but he didn't win it all" sound byte when they talk about your career regardless of how good you were. Hurts doesn't get his due and is not generally not regarded as one of the top level quarterbacks but winning a Superbowl will raise his profile considerably. Barkley is started to get hall of famer talk because of his near record breaking season but I wouldn't say his Giants resume is good enough to say that. But if he caps the season with a Superbowl win then that will push him further into that conversation. And if the Eagles lose? They're chokers. Two Superbowl appearances in the last three years and they can't get over the hump? That's almost worse for your rep than if you were just going out in the wild card each time. Anyone can go on a miracle run to a Superbowl and lose but if you make it to multiple Superbowls then it suggests you were good enough on paper but choked in the big moment. You don't want to be the 70's Vikings or the 90's Bills.
The chiefs are just like the warriors: -High powered offense powered by a superstar (Mahomes and curry) who win early and a lot and get carried in later years by other players -After KC’s first win, gets back the following year and gets stopped by the goat (warriors get stopped by LeBron which also everyone was happy about) -Warriors come back and win more chips just like KC is now -KC about to get their fourth chip which matches the warriors run -Warriors beginning to fade, and eventually KC will also go back into obscurity
Rich Eisen lost all credibility and respect when he pushed conspiracies for 2 weeks and tried to downplay patrick mahomes role in this Dynasty. Pathetic and deranged
@@scottsauce315they don’t get every call. Everyone was complaining about the Texans game yet the Chiefs got hosed more than Houston in that game when they ruled Dalton Schultz was inbounds despite only getting 1 foot in. On a 3rd and 10 in the fourth quarter it was a massive play. But go with whatever narrative makes you feel better b
Want I want to talk about is the conversation every year about great QBs like Allen and Jackson and the QBs that stink that actually get to the superbowl
How can anybody take this Rich Eisen guy seriously he changes his mind every week I remembered the week before the Bills vs Chiefs game he was all over Josh Allen how amazing he is how he’s better than Mahomes how the Chiefs gonna loose against the Bills saying his son is saying how nobody wants the Chiefs anymore they are not as good as they used to be they overrated and now the Chiefs are a Legendary team make up your mind RICH We all Know that these are the best 2 Teams in the league playing the superbowl no matter how hard you want Josh Allen there but he just doesn’t have what it takes to beat Mahomes and you at pro at this but don’t even know who the most complete well coach teams are and forgetting what Mahomes has showed us before that he can do amazing plays whenever is clutch time!!
So don't watch it. You won't be missed, but I have some great financial advice for you. Seeings as how you are so confident that the game is rigged for the Chiefs and seeing as how you are somehow smart enough to know that, BET ON THE CHIEFS! You already know the outcome of the games already, so use your genius as a way to get paid. Your team won't be winning, but you would be in the fortune 500 in less than one season.
Rich and Co. letter to them: Dear Sirs, since this SB 59 has two of the worst teams to ever be in the last game of the season's finale. Thus, a number of us will choose to be occupied doing important things, other than watch another sh1t show.
Kevin Burkhardt: "And Saquon breaks one loose for a 50 yard touchdown!" Tom Brady: "Oh I don't know Kevin, looks like we have a late flag thrown in the backfield here" Referee: "Holding on the offense, 5 yard penalty, repeat first down" * Mahomes and Kelce break dancing on the sideline *
I’m legit hoping the outside noise gets to the Refs and they get scared to throw a flag on big play like a long Saquon run will see Also great profile name/pic👍
yeah yeah that's what we were told in the NBA NO TEAM HAS EVER BEEN DOWN IN THE NBA FINALS 0-3 AND COME BACK TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIP. UMMM WELL LOOK WHAT LeBron and Cavaliers done in 2016 Never say Never
If, over the next 10 years, Mahomes goes to 6-7 Super Bowls and wins 4-5 more, and then retires at age 40, then he would be THE GOAT. Brady would still be the best QB to play at 40+, fwiw.
Brady had to protect himself and his receivers while Mahomes is trying to draw flags. I think Mahomes (and probably ten other QBs) are way better athletes. But Mahomes lost to Brady in the Super Bowl. Can’t say he is the GOAT.
@ I think saying one QB is worse than another because they lost a game to the other is dumb. QBs don’t compete with each other- they are never on the field at the same time. Brady was better than the Chiefs defense on those days, no doubt. But Mahomes beating Josh Allen 4xs in playoffs does not make Mahomes better than Allen. It means the Chiefs defense was better than Allen, at least on those days. Only way to compare QBs is stats and results. Mahomes is better than Allen because he has more rings and better overall results. Brady is better than Mahomes unless he can surpass Brady’s results. To say that Mahomes could never be better because Brady never lost to him is silly.
@@keleynal4424 I agree 100%. I’m saying Mahomes can never be better than Brady because Brady had to play the game a lot more conservatively. If Mahomes tried to escape the pocket and did his coveted fake pass at the scrimmage line then running for 20 yards back in 2010…. he wouldn’t finish some seasons because defenses were allowed to hit HARD. I’m just saying when they played on even grounds in a Super Bowl, Brady won. I don’t care about TB12, I’m just trying to point out that the game was harder to play back then.
Just yesterday. Rich eisen looked right into the camera, and told all the eagles fans “nobody likes you”. Just cover the chiefs Rich. No need to fake it for the birds.
Brady is untouchable as the GOAT Qb. This is coming from a Miami Dolphins fan that hated Brady and the Patriots for many years, not as people, but as a team that destroyed my teams legacy.
Chiefs need to win or else their dynasty is shot. They get handed every game that matters because of the industry, but if they lose despite their beneficiaries in the NFL what else can they say but “even with a galaxy of help we couldn’t get it done”
Mahomet can never catch Brady. They went head to head TWICE in the playoffs and Brady is 2-0. Even worse for Mahomet, it was geriatric 40+ year old Brady that beat him twice. So right from the start, Brady will always be better even if Mahomes wins 10 rings. You must respect the outcome on the field. This isn't some hypothetical like what if Jordan faced LeBron. Their careers overlapped and they faced each other in a super bowl.
@@williamd1891not even mentioning that in the first game Mahomes so vastly outplayed Brady it wasn’t even close. Not to mention Eli manning is 2-0 against Brady. Head to head is not a viable comp.
Leaving out the context of these games is wild. The results are the results, but Mahomes had him beat until Dee Ford forgot where the LOS was. The second was a literal HOME SB for Tampa, the first time ever, and the officiating was full of home cooking. KC's OL was basically all 2nd & 3rd stringers against the best DL in football, and Mahomes still ran around almost 500 yards making incredible throws that his receivers didn't catch. Tampa defenders spent more time talking about how amazed they were by Pat than they did talking about winning the game.
Philly is the better team…but so were Buffalo and Houston. KC will be handed another win by the boys in stripes somehow and none of it will matter. Sad but FACTS
They have more penalties called on them then not. In fact the ones saying the refs help them are saying that because it's penalties that happen at inopportune times. Same happened with Brady. Ironically against the Chiefs, you had 2 penalties in the 2018 AFC championship that were like that
Doesn't matter. The league wants the 3 peat. During the entertainment era, it is all about ratings and money. Nothing else matters to the nfl and its obvious
That doesn’t even make sense. Why in the world would Jerry Jones and Mark Davis and the Bills ownership and the Ravens ownership and the Lions ownership rig it for Kansas City? If this was rigged Detroit would absolutely be in the Super Bowl right now.
You should go out and touch grass. If this were remotely true, then it would be rigged towards the larger markets. Please make sense out of that. As @thatstheway2429 has previously stated, the owners run the league via Roger Goodell. I hope you have the same level of hatred towards the owner of your own team, because this MUST mean they are in on it too. Use your brain.
3peat vs Redemption.
Refs vs Philly
@@scottsauce315I’ve seen you make a ref comment in about 50 comments. I love seeing the Chiefs take up so much of your mental space 😂
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@@ParkerBG What matters: Repent and follow Christ Jesus! Praise King Jesus Christ✝❤ Pray to Jesus! Have Faith in Jesus! Get Baptized in Jesus Name! Read the Bible! Lean on Jesus! Jesus loves you and knows you by name! Christ Jesus is knocking at your door! Let Him in! Jesus saves✝❤🙏💪
@ And you have commented back on quite a few of them yourself…it seems that I have claimed stake to some space in your head as well 😂 Facts got you big mad 😂
We're discussing the evolution of Chiefs' legacies and Eagles' legacies-rightfully so-but what about the evolution of Chiefs-Eagles as a rivalry?
This is the fourth straight year these teams are meeting, despite being in different conferences. Has that even happened before? On top of that, they're set to play each other again in the next regular season. That's five in a row! This has the makings of a whole new kind of rivalry.
What rivalry when the chiefs win all the games that matter
@@JosephJackson-fm7lr Not if they lose 🦅
@ keep wishing u know u fear pat 40 sec to go with 2 time outs
@@JosephJackson-fm7lr there's not going to be any strategy. They're not going to be able to score enough points to matter. They'll be so far behind the strategizing & the amount of time mostly have won't really make a difference.
But yay two timeouts
@@TCrimson05t that’s what u hope but yall defense over rated and yall play zone look at our numbers vs zone we score more vs zone than man and when u switch to man we got to speed guys Hollywood and worthy good luck with zone defense and man 😂
The Eagles will be able to say they beat both Brady and the Pats, and Mahomes and the Chiefs. Beating both dynasties, and getting revenge on both after losing to both teams their first match up
Will be able to? Or migh be able to?
And Lombardi
@@javiersanchez2363exactly 😂
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A lot of people tend to forget that Mahomes didn't start his rookie season. So all these stats are really 7 year stats.
If the Chiefs win someone’s gotta get AJ Brown a new book.
If the Queefs win someone’s gotta get the refs a ring!!! Or 3
@@scottsauce315 You win for the dumbest comment.
@@karlpage9028Nice! Thanks! Glad to win something that the refs can’t take away!!!!
@@scottsauce315 Or maybe if you used a few more brain cells you would realize the Chiefs are actually that good...The whole ref argument shows how miserable fans are because they can't handle their success
Be mad at the refs not the chiefs u mad they just winning if u don't like the calls get mad at refs chiefs have nothing to do with that as u know chiefs are the most penalized team in the NFL throughout the game and even in the 4th in crucial moments if you are that mad tell your team to put up more points and beat us refs don't work for us stats prove that @@scottsauce315
If Chiefs win.... They are by far the best Dynasty in History... 4 SBs in 7 seasons Chiefs worst year in Patrick Mahomes era is a OT loss in AFC Championship game in 7 seasons. Where will they be after 10 seasons in Mahomes era??? What happens if they go back next year?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're back again next year. This is a team that really has figured out how to win in almost every imaginable way.
@@johnchedsey1306I agree
If they lose, no historic 3 peat and they are 3-2 in Super Bowls with Mahomes and Reid. Great run but not historic.
As a Chefs fan, I'm just glad they won 1 SB in my lifetime. 3 (going on 4) is just gravy. Is Mahomes better than Brady? I don't care. Case in point, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have SB's. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino don't. SB's are not the bench mark for great QB's.
What I do care a little bit about is Andy Reid. Dude is a HOF coach and the way Philly treated him was infuriating. Now, they ended up getting one without him but they're on what, there 4th coach since Big Red?
As a fan who grew up during the Reid in Philly era, the end had a lot to do with Reid too. He had consistently terrible time management issues, QB position wasn’t as good as he had it before in McNabb’s peak and he’d been getting bounced in the playoffs, they just came off a 4 win season. His o-line coach became his DC and it was a mess. Looked a lot like Belichick at the end once Brady was gone. Sometimes both parties just need a fresh start.
With that being said, Reid being in the all-time winningest HCs is cool to see.
@@cjc36nyyI think it also showed he’s a head coach, not a front office guy.
The pairing he has with Veach has been perfect in KC. Mahomes helps a bit too.
Reid is still a legend in Philly today, thankfully.
Reid is better than BB. Doing it with two teams is so much more impressive. Not even close if he gets the threepeat
Not sure I follow your logic. Reid didn’t win a SB with Philly
SAQUON IS THE MVP!
Mahomes is the MVP!
I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER 👍!!!
@@MsChiefsfan-w4k Mahomes didn't even make the Pro Bowl this year.
@@Golf05 Doesn't matter. He's in the Super Bowl.
Refs are the real MVP
I could be bias as an eagles fan/andy reid fan. I think reid is the better coach between himself and belichick. Reid did so much more with so much less, the eagles offense in the 2004 superbowl is filled with no names and then Owens and then McNabb and westbrook. McNabb was a decent QB but putting him in the same stratum in terms of dominance at the position, it is nowhere close. Same thing now, he pretty much has patrick mahomes and an aging Kelce who are both GOAT contenders but kelce really has done much the past 2 seasons. What im trying to say is, even last year with the piss poor offensive threats except Pacheco, they managed to get it done, which is an insane accomplishment. I still believe the birds will win, though.
Agreed, except for the last sentence lol. Due to superb coaching, Chiefs can adjust their style to fit the players they have, and the defenses they face, rather than trying to force their players and game plan to work in a system that doesn’t fit a situation. The defense is so fluid that offenses just don’t know when or where the surprises will be coming at them from. I think KC has some of the smartest, most adaptable players in key positions in the NFL. And the coaches who are willing to let the truly talented ones (Chris Jones) the freedom to follow their instincts when the player smells something out. Smart all the way around.
I would like to see players other than QB get more fair consideration for superbowl MVP. QBs should still earn it if they play an excellent game or out of their mind, but it is usually pretty obvious when a defensive player or a receiver/running back deserves it more because the QB was just solid and put up stats because the pieces around them carried them.
I agree. Damien Williams, the RB of the 1st Chiefs superbowl win of this modern team, was the guy who really helped keep them in the game till the 4th quarter, when Mahomes finally got his game going.
The funniest thing about hearing all of the Sirianni stats is we all know the Eagles are gonna fire him in less than 5 seasons because they’ll have one bad year 😂
The trouble with records is that it doesn’t take account of the numerous rule changes over the years, and the huge advances in medical treatment!
And Vegas
And more games per season of course
Philly is in it to win it,not same team that KC played 3 yrs ago
All true…refs ain’t letting Philly win tho
“Philly’s in it to win it…”
Yeah, and KC’s just happy to be there? 😂
It’s not the same chiefs either
@@williamallen7984 Same refs
Philly played KC last year.
@@scottsauce315 blaming the refs is a loser’s mentality
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Actually 4 players are still on the roster from 2017 Super Bowl. Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson, Jake Elliott and Rick Lovato. Get your facts straight sir
Time for Brockman to cry and hate on the chiefs.
He’s been better with rolling with it. It’s football is what it is
If the Eagles win the Super Bowl, Nick Sirriani would be only the second winning HC of Italian descent.
I assume Lombardi is the other
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This segment would be more effective if it was split out into one segment devoted to each player, with rich reading the potential stats and the room discussing the narrative and feelings around each player or coach. The ways that our relationship to Andy Reid has changed. The way that our relationship to mahomes has evolved. Remind us what it was like when we first met mahomes. How we felt about him. How its evolved. I need narrative and discussion for the stats to matter and/or stick in my memory.
Andy Reid is the most interesting one for me. Especially with the narrative that followed him out of Philly when they lost all those conference championship games. Very similar to Bill Cowher’s legacy, although Andy has gone on to win significantly more after getting his first. He went from being Marv Levy to Bill Cowher to Bill Belichick.
the chiefs are trying to make history over the course of 3 seasons (only team to win 3 super bowls in a row) and the eagles are having a historical single season (best rushing team of all time with a win)
The frustrating thing is of course these 2 quarterbacks were going to meet again. 2 of the top competitors of their conference. Who is shocked or surprised by this?
That was actually really good 😅
Andy should put a statue of Mahomes on his front yard. And Kelce should name his first child Patrick Mahomes.
Reid was best HC in the NFL and top 10 in wins all time pre Mahomes and Kelce was a 1st team All Pro both were already best in the league Mahomes made them GOATs it should be Mahomes giving thanks the Bears or some one else didn’t draft him(I say this as a Bears fan)
@davis2k1234 From 1999 to 2016 Andy had no Superbowl wins. From 2017 to 2024 he has 3 and going for a 3-peat. Now, what year was Mahomes drafted?
@@Anthony-yu5yzwell see there this other part called playoffs. Where Andy went to 4 straight NFC chmpsps. 80% of coaches never win 1 playoff game. Thats dominance man. Super Bowl wins isnt the end all be all to historic coaches. Unless ur just a casual
@@Anthony-yu5yzOk and? Reid overhauled 2 bad franchises and turned them into Super Bowl contenders he never got over the hump and won a title he also never had a great QB to pair with his offensive genius now he does
@@Anthony-yu5yz We've never seen Mahomes with another NFL coach so not exactly fair to bring that up. Brady proved he could win a Superbowl without Belichek. We don't know if Mahomes can without Reed.
No talk of GM's I see. Not to sound like I am devaluing the work of Nick Siranni but it needs to be said: Nick is the "CEO head coach". He didn't build the team or hire the coordinators. He was simply put in "in charge" and answerable to Owner Jeff Lurie and GM HOWIE ROSEMAN. Howie is responsible for building this team. I have never seen a coach less responsible for his good fortune than this man.
Howie has assembled what many consider the most loaded and talented and complete roster in football. I agree. The lack of a SB trophy in 2022 and the potential lack of one in 2024 would be squarely put on the lack of high quality coach and/or QB. But Howie may have done enough this time with the additions of Fangio and Barkley and some great defensive picks to overcome those weak spots this year. We will see.
Some people like chocolate. Some people like vanilla. I can enjoy either with belittling the other.
game honestly matters more for andy than pat. andy would have 4!!! noll won 4 with maybe the greatest long term roster assembled in the SB era. he might already be on SB era rushmore (bill, noll, walsh, landrey, he's passing one of those last two with a 4th)
There are 4 players left from the 2017 eagles team! Don’t forget the longsnapper!!
Nice stats but SB wins matter. Drew Brees is 2nd to Brady in stats and has 1 SB
Listen to Rich when he starts listing the legacy factors of Hurts. He’s on the list with Brady, Roethlisberger, Wilson and Mahomes. Anyone want to point out the differences in these names? Ok, I will. Brady, Roethlisberger, Wilson and Hurts all had historic defenses. Mahomes is the outlier, carrying average defenses for the better part of his career.
Of course this year the KC defense has been rather good, so it's equitable there.
@ That’s a why I said “the better part of his career”. He’s had a good defense lately.
Now he's telling us who is going to be SB MVP, if they win. So stupid.
Chiefs going for the Pat-trick.
Wow the NFL sent rich a queefs stim pack
Mahomes drowns out brady in talent. Give me a damn break. Common sense people.
He couldn’t drown out Brady in the conference title game or the Super Bowl he lost to Brady. Brady beat you from the neck up, his mental talent was second to none
It’s nice of rich to try and polish this pumpkin but good lord is there an all time lack of excitement or heat on this match up. And sure I’m gonna watch but in much the same way I’d eat chili 19 times a month if I was in prison.
You’ll probably be surprised when it ends up as the most watched Super Bowl ever.
Even if you don’t like the teams, Saquon might be the most exciting player in the sport this season, and people always tune in for dynasties.
@ yeah, too root for or against them, I.e., the patriots. This time people are just like, “meh”. Heck even the official nfl memes page was making fun of this matchup.
@@thatstheway2429 People already know the outcome due to officiating
Just because it’s teams you irrationally despise doesn’t mean there’s no interest. This is America’s biggest sports event. Get real.
@@StillLearnin4332 and like I said we’re all gonna watch but you can’t tell me with a straight face these even comes close to the excitement of years past
How many times does a rookie come in and win SB rings in each of their first two seasons…and if they win a third 😮
What would happen if Tom and Patrick played in a Super Bowl against each other tho?
One would cheat and the other would get EVERY call…so it would actually be the first fair Super Bowl in 3 years 😂
Mahomes being 7 of 7 in the final possession of 4th quarters to win or tie in the playoffs is nuts though and I'm a Brady guy. Brady is 5 of 11 in those same clutch circumstances. Mahomes can lose and he's still at worst the third greatest QB ever.
They did. Mahomes lost badly.
Do you even watch football?
Mahomes will finish his career with 8 SUPER BOWL RINGS!!
As an eagles guy Andy Reid I believe will go down as the greatest coach. He has something bill doesn’t have which is taking multiple teams to a superbowl as a head coach. Of course bill was successful as a coordinator. I think Andy may win more championships than Bill.
With that said it seems like hitting the jackpot with a generational talent makes it easier to be successful. Andy had Donovan in Philly, a really good qb. If he had a great qb he would have won here too.
Chiefs win or lose are still the best dynasty since the niners ....we got room to lose eagles do not they need this or forever be a josh Allen tht cnt beat the man we all call my homeboi
As much I like and respect the hell out of KC especially big red ... But I bleed green and we definitely need to get this one......
Man you are in for a long Super Bowl Sunday thanks to the refs…I feel for the Birds fans already
Chief-Peat otw!
Pat-trick 😏
I’m well pleased people are starting to see your true colors juuuu eisen
Rich reading Mahomes Accolades made me realize the fix will be in for the Chiefs.
“The fix” won’t matter when the eagles are up by 25 points
What odds? The NFL has decided the want Taylor to be on screen as much as possible so of course the Chiefs will win. The instructions for the referees to give Chiefs massive bias.
Patrick Mahomes could play like complete crap in the Superbowl and retire immediately afterwards and would still be a shoo-in for the hall of fame and regarded as one of the best ever. He's just piling on at this point and chasing Brady. The Eagles need it more. Winning the top championship for your sport crosses over a line. It raises the profile of good players who would otherwise not be in the hall of fame discussion. Meanwhile not winning one tends to haunt hall of famers. You always get "but he didn't win it all" sound byte when they talk about your career regardless of how good you were. Hurts doesn't get his due and is not generally not regarded as one of the top level quarterbacks but winning a Superbowl will raise his profile considerably. Barkley is started to get hall of famer talk because of his near record breaking season but I wouldn't say his Giants resume is good enough to say that. But if he caps the season with a Superbowl win then that will push him further into that conversation. And if the Eagles lose? They're chokers. Two Superbowl appearances in the last three years and they can't get over the hump? That's almost worse for your rep than if you were just going out in the wild card each time. Anyone can go on a miracle run to a Superbowl and lose but if you make it to multiple Superbowls then it suggests you were good enough on paper but choked in the big moment. You don't want to be the 70's Vikings or the 90's Bills.
The ladder is more likely 😂
Hurts gonna be the most losing SB QB in Beagles history.
The chiefs are just like the warriors:
-High powered offense powered by a superstar (Mahomes and curry) who win early and a lot and get carried in later years by other players
-After KC’s first win, gets back the following year and gets stopped by the goat (warriors get stopped by LeBron which also everyone was happy about)
-Warriors come back and win more chips just like KC is now
-KC about to get their fourth chip which matches the warriors run
-Warriors beginning to fade, and eventually KC will also go back into obscurity
Eagles win Eagles win
They already are the best dynasty before this game tbh
Rich Eisen lost all credibility and respect when he pushed conspiracies for 2 weeks and tried to downplay patrick mahomes role in this Dynasty. Pathetic and deranged
Wow I just realized if JJ McCarther EVER wins a Superbowl, which could be a stretch, heis name also starts with a J 😂
If it wasn't for Barkley the Eagles wouldn't be there!! Go Chiefs ❤️💛❤️💛
By any means necessary
Haters: Oh, the Chiefs are cheating! The Chiefs get all the calls".
Regular football fans: "Hey, how about shutting up? You literal children."
So you admit they get every call and can’t win without help but we should all just accept it and shut up? Got it
@scottsauce315 get back to class kid.
@@scottsauce315they don’t get every call. Everyone was complaining about the Texans game yet the Chiefs got hosed more than Houston in that game when they ruled Dalton Schultz was inbounds despite only getting 1 foot in.
On a 3rd and 10 in the fourth quarter it was a massive play.
But go with whatever narrative makes you feel better b
@ They get every call and can’t win without it. Facts are facts Queefs Queendom
@@scottsauce315my god man again. Seek help your team sucks we get it
Mahomes has to play in his 40s to be considered as good as Tom Brady?! 😂 that's 'Rich'.
And one stat will be..."Super Bowl LIX will be the least watched Super Bowl" 😀
Go Chiefs❣ Get the 3-peat ❣
No one outside of your fandom wants that
@@LakeFX Not my problem.
@@MsChiefsfan-w4kgood thing you got the refs. 😊
@@MsChiefsfan-w4kas a niner fan congrats. Hopefully they 3peat. I hate Philly lol
@@diavolossilhouette8274 Thanks
Want I want to talk about is the conversation every year about great QBs like Allen and Jackson and the QBs that stink that actually get to the superbowl
no way in hell is Jalen Hurts ever going to Canton
How can anybody take this Rich Eisen guy seriously he changes his mind every week I remembered the week before the Bills vs Chiefs game he was all over Josh Allen how amazing he is how he’s better than Mahomes how the Chiefs gonna loose against the Bills saying his son is saying how nobody wants the Chiefs anymore they are not as good as they used to be they overrated and now the Chiefs are a Legendary team make up your mind RICH We all Know that these are the best 2 Teams in the league playing the superbowl no matter how hard you want Josh Allen there but he just doesn’t have what it takes to beat Mahomes and you at pro at this but don’t even know who the most complete well coach teams are and forgetting what Mahomes has showed us before that he can do amazing plays whenever is clutch time!!
Eagles are 3peat Destroyers ask Brady
Sad - so many people really do not care. I did not watch Super Bowl last year and I will not watch this year. Just want a fair game.
So don't watch it. You won't be missed, but I have some great financial advice for you.
Seeings as how you are so confident that the game is rigged for the Chiefs and seeing as how you are somehow smart enough to know that, BET ON THE CHIEFS!
You already know the outcome of the games already, so use your genius as a way to get paid.
Your team won't be winning, but you would be in the fortune 500 in less than one season.
Nobody caressss
Saquan gets 90 yards, But Looses , Pat Mahomes once again MVP!!
The 49ers could’ve drafted Mahomes, and instead, they drafted Solomon Thomas 😑😑😑😑
Audio is not quite synced, just a heads up
I think it's just you
Mine is synced
It’s fine homie
Rich and Co. letter to them: Dear Sirs, since this SB 59 has two of the worst teams to ever be in the last game of the season's finale. Thus, a number of us will choose to be occupied doing important things, other than watch another sh1t show.
As long as the referees are on his side there is no doubt 😂
Kevin Burkhardt: "And Saquon breaks one loose for a 50 yard touchdown!"
Tom Brady: "Oh I don't know Kevin, looks like we have a late flag thrown in the backfield here"
Referee: "Holding on the offense, 5 yard penalty, repeat first down"
* Mahomes and Kelce break dancing on the sideline *
I’m legit hoping the outside noise gets to the Refs and they get scared to throw a flag on big play like a long Saquon run will see
Also great profile name/pic👍
Holding is 10 yards and also doesn't get called much in Super Bowls
yeah yeah that's what we were told in the NBA NO TEAM HAS EVER BEEN DOWN IN THE NBA FINALS 0-3 AND COME BACK TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIP. UMMM WELL LOOK WHAT LeBron and Cavaliers done in 2016 Never say Never
This show has gotten so boring. I’m a chiefs fan and he couldn’t even make a chiefs glaring topic interesting
If, over the next 10 years, Mahomes goes to 6-7 Super Bowls and wins 4-5 more, and then retires at age 40, then he would be THE GOAT. Brady would still be the best QB to play at 40+, fwiw.
Brady had to protect himself and his receivers while Mahomes is trying to draw flags. I think Mahomes (and probably ten other QBs) are way better athletes. But Mahomes lost to Brady in the Super Bowl. Can’t say he is the GOAT.
@ I think saying one QB is worse than another because they lost a game to the other is dumb. QBs don’t compete with each other- they are never on the field at the same time. Brady was better than the Chiefs defense on those days, no doubt. But Mahomes beating Josh Allen 4xs in playoffs does not make Mahomes better than Allen. It means the Chiefs defense was better than Allen, at least on those days.
Only way to compare QBs is stats and results. Mahomes is better than Allen because he has more rings and better overall results. Brady is better than Mahomes unless he can surpass Brady’s results. To say that Mahomes could never be better because Brady never lost to him is silly.
@ yes we all remember when Brady made the footballs a little softer so no one would get hurt. Man is a saint.
@@keleynal4424 I agree 100%. I’m saying Mahomes can never be better than Brady because Brady had to play the game a lot more conservatively. If Mahomes tried to escape the pocket and did his coveted fake pass at the scrimmage line then running for 20 yards back in 2010…. he wouldn’t finish some seasons because defenses were allowed to hit HARD. I’m just saying when they played on even grounds in a Super Bowl, Brady won. I don’t care about TB12, I’m just trying to point out that the game was harder to play back then.
The refs will make sure PM will win
Just yesterday. Rich eisen looked right into the camera, and told all the eagles fans “nobody likes you”. Just cover the chiefs Rich. No need to fake it for the birds.
Think how many chiefs wud hv four rings ? Hardman wud hv four lol crazy to think
Yall chiefs haters better hope the chiefs win because if they DONT they are coming back for the rest of time 😂
⬇️⬇️⬇️ BOYCOTT BUTTON
Brady is untouchable as the GOAT Qb. This is coming from a Miami Dolphins fan that hated Brady and the Patriots for many years, not as people, but as a team that destroyed my teams legacy.
OTHER THAN THE THREE-PEAT, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT STAKE FOR THE CHIEFS LEGACY-WISE AT THIS POINT.
*Refs legacy
Just the best dynasty ever on the line, but besides that... 🤦♂️
Saquon is the MVP. I hope the Chiefs win the SB, but the Eagles deserve it all if they win it all!
Eagles are ready to stop the dynasty
You guys get so excited talking about kc qb but never talk about these calls that the refs make every playoff.
Chiefs need to win or else their dynasty is shot. They get handed every game that matters because of the industry, but if they lose despite their beneficiaries in the NFL what else can they say but “even with a galaxy of help we couldn’t get it done”
Philly love's rich. Fly eagles fly. Hope the script has us winning the super bowl
Spoiler: it doesn't.
That's a negative, lol, your DEFINITELY not from my City...😂😢😂
That’s a damn lie 😂
@@StillLearnin4332 nuh uh 😄
Philly would win by 2+ scores without fuckery from the refs…but Houston and Buffalo would have too……
My god you cry a lot
@@humaux I’m the Chris Jones of this thread I guess 😂 Silly Queefs
Mahomet can never catch Brady. They went head to head TWICE in the playoffs and Brady is 2-0. Even worse for Mahomet, it was geriatric 40+ year old Brady that beat him twice. So right from the start, Brady will always be better even if Mahomes wins 10 rings. You must respect the outcome on the field. This isn't some hypothetical like what if Jordan faced LeBron. Their careers overlapped and they faced each other in a super bowl.
Yes, let's compare a prime Brady vs basically a rookie Mahomes. Second match up Mahomes had a practice squad O-line vs the #1 defense.
@@williamd1891not even mentioning that in the first game Mahomes so vastly outplayed Brady it wasn’t even close.
Not to mention Eli manning is 2-0 against Brady. Head to head is not a viable comp.
Last I knew football championships are won by TEAMS…not QB’s. Silly to compare individuals in a TEAM sport.
Leaving out the context of these games is wild. The results are the results, but Mahomes had him beat until Dee Ford forgot where the LOS was. The second was a literal HOME SB for Tampa, the first time ever, and the officiating was full of home cooking. KC's OL was basically all 2nd & 3rd stringers against the best DL in football, and Mahomes still ran around almost 500 yards making incredible throws that his receivers didn't catch. Tampa defenders spent more time talking about how amazed they were by Pat than they did talking about winning the game.
He will easily catch Brady. Has way more talent
Philly is the better team…but so were Buffalo and Houston. KC will be handed another win by the boys in stripes somehow and none of it will matter. Sad but FACTS
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Jesus man are you a Bills fan? I'm sorry Patrick hurt you.
@@humaux Sorry he’s never won a thing without help 😂 Average QB without Andy Reid and the refs help 😂
Refs have a lot on the line! Going for a 3peat!!
You are a lazy thinker.
Yup. And KC can’t win without help from refs….what’s your point???
@@colbyepps2434don’t engage with the troll. That’s how they thrive.
They have more penalties called on them then not. In fact the ones saying the refs help them are saying that because it's penalties that happen at inopportune times. Same happened with Brady. Ironically against the Chiefs, you had 2 penalties in the 2018 AFC championship that were like that
@@manligi9701 Queefs can’t win without help
BUNDLEROOOOOSKI BUNLE ROOOOOOOOOOSSSKIIIII
The Cheats legacy will never be respected with all the help they get 🤣
Too bad pat riley trademarked 3peat
@@Chris-st4je Plus his 3peat was actually legitimate
Doesn't matter. The league wants the 3 peat. During the entertainment era, it is all about ratings and money. Nothing else matters to the nfl and its obvious
That doesn’t even make sense. Why in the world would Jerry Jones and Mark Davis and the Bills ownership and the Ravens ownership and the Lions ownership rig it for Kansas City?
If this was rigged Detroit would absolutely be in the Super Bowl right now.
You should go out and touch grass. If this were remotely true, then it would be rigged towards the larger markets. Please make sense out of that. As @thatstheway2429 has previously stated, the owners run the league via Roger Goodell. I hope you have the same level of hatred towards the owner of your own team, because this MUST mean they are in on it too. Use your brain.