I like that Gavin’s argument here is: she can do it without me here therefore I don’t need to help. Imagine buying groceries with an s/o and they decide to not help you bring them inside because if they weren’t there you would be capable of doing it alone. The prerequisite for helping isn’t that the person couldn’t do the job alone.
Yeah, it is pretty funny. But at the same time, Gavin has said he'd be willing to help Meg as a navigator, even if he doesn't fully pay attention to street signs. What Burnie seems to be implying is he should do it all the time, even if Gavin also is pointing out Meg doesn't need him to navigate when they're on the road all the time.
Eh, it's more like if I was in charge of buying groceries, and my s/o didn't want to make any decisions about what brand of bread we got. Deciding where to park is a decision based thing, rather than carrying groceries, which is a physical thing
I hate it when people try to help my park regardless whether it's my gf, siblings, mates or whoever. I just find it distracting unless I literally drove past an empty spot. It's not too difficult to scan a parking lot or do a quick check on parking signs
It feels like Gavin have given up on the idea of ever getting a drivers license and also him saying that it isn't a joint effort to find a parking space is weird. Even as a kid i always tried looking for somewhere to park so that we could get out of the car faster
Sometimes the gps tell me to do things that the signs contradict. The signs take precedence over your phone navigation. Still important to follow the sign rules.
@@iMatthewWilliams Looking at the road signs is something I would delegate to the driver. The navigator's job is generally just telling you when and where to turn, something which can be entirely done by a gps nowadays.
@@iMatthewWilliams What do you mean by etc? If the navigator tells you to get off at exit 8 in 2 miles, that's all the information you need to know which lane you need to be in at the time.
Gavin when he says "IF I DRIVE A CAR, I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHERE TO PARK!" is great because you can tell he's getting irritated a LITTLE about the hypothetical question in the first place as well as his trying to point out more to what Burnie is trying to get across. XD At least it isn't as nuts as the construction conversation.
It's such a weird argument. Pretty much none of the comparisons they come up with work, and this starts because it's assumed the passenger is apparently a co-pilot? Amusing chaotic nonsense, I love it. Thanks for the source!
When you are in a car the person right next to the pilot is the co-pilot, for example if you are doing a trip on car while the pilot is concentrade on the road, the other person can check a map and guide, look for important signs like that ones that tell you that a road is for normal vehicules or trucks, or look where make the right turn, or if a car is to close of your car (because sometimes are blind spots on the sight of a pilot) for puting some examples, in this case gavin is on the front seat whit her girlfriend so he should work as a copilot unless she says she dont need one (but he dont even try), the point here is that gavin says: why should i look for car signs if i dont drive, on a 13 to 15 years old teenager can be a normal question, but for someone like gavin it makes no sense, imagine that gavin for any reason have an emergency and need to drive, if what gavin says was true he wouldnt be capable of drive "only if what gavin says was true", and the point what burnie tries to make is that "not because you dont do something, doesnt mean you should not care or pay attencion to it"
First off, I genuinely love that people are still posting on this argument. lolz. I'm going to chalk this up to 'it depends on the person and place'. Apparently, a lot of people do agree with Burnie, in that helping someone find a parking spot is what is polite and expected. However, where I come from... if you try to help someone find a parking spot, you get chewed out for being a backseat driver. Unless I explicitly ask you for help, or I'm about to do something illegal because I'm distracted, you shut your damn mouth about my driving. I'm with Gavin on this one. Unless you need directions, driving isn't a joint effort.
“Where do you park your jet ski?” My face slowly turned into Burnie’s face. A jet ski, really? A jet ski is a single-seat vehicle (excluding someone holding onto you from behind). I learned that if you *know* the person you’re driving with, you ask them, “Hey, uh, you need help finding a spot to park?” Because when you go out to an event where there’s zero parking space, and people are parked on the grass or wherever, you *definitely* help the driver find a spot to park in. Simple terms: if they ask for help, help. If they say no, shrug it off.
2:10 The look on Barbara's face, "I can't believe they are having an argument over parking signs. What's next Gavin sitting on Gus?" Later in show. "God damn it
I would just be the alarm/insurance cause some drivers are just totally ignorant. I was in a car when my friend almost crashed into another because he did not notice the moron who was literally parked on the bridge, and for some reason my friend did not register in his mind that he should move out of the way. Kept telling me "Man if you didn't say anything, we would've crashed" While some of my ignorant friends just refuses to follow some street rules and sometimes just speed right through very dangerous places, especially at night. Whenever I point it out, they just say "Haven't crashed yet" Plus, looking around also helps you learn the streets if you're not familiar with the place. In the podcast's situation, sometimes if you spot a better parking, why not suggest it? And if I use Gavin's challenge about helicopters, jet skis, and planes... Well if I know how to use those things, sure I'd definitely look out as a co-pilot or something, but I ain't, so I'd shut up and let the ones who are pros to do it
The reason for the co pilot is to help each other in the plane. The only real difference between a pilot and a co pilot is who is flying the plane. They help each other to accomplish the flight and bring it down safely.
The thing they need to explain to Gavin is that it’s a matter of courtesy to help the driver find a parking spot because they have to focus on other things on the road
"If I had a car, I'd be able to tell you where to park!" So, does he just go blind as a passenger? He's never seen a *parking* lot before? Does he not realize cars park places? Literally 5 years later and this argument still pisses me off
I have to say no one was right in this. While it would be nice of you to help whoever's driving you to find a parking space it's not necessary. It's not a requirement
Dragon Fire yea but when your in the drivers seat you have to look on both sides of your car even the side your not on so you will have to lean a little so burnie is more in the right than gavin
I mean the driver can easily find a parking spot looking from right to left quickly. Whenever we go out we don't have to help each other find a spot. It's a pretty simple thing to do
I don't understand, how is he wrong? Why do people need help finding a parking spot? It sounded like they felt lost in a forest trying to find a parking spot. You just need to look for a space, it's not that hard. I can park by myself, I don't need a passenger to help me look and I wouldn't ask them to help me look either. My eyes work fine. (With glasses on, they do :P)
Strength DF imagine if we were in a car together you want me to lean over you looking for a fucking parking spot on your side of the car violating all your personal space unless your into it I highly doubt it
They don't discuss it, but it's really a question of competence. I don't drive, and when I'm in a car I don't feel competent to judge what might be a valid and achievable parking space. I think that's a skill you can only get from actually driving.
But you can see if there’s a free spot on your window side. Or if there’s a sign that says in big letters “NO PARKING HERE MON-FRI 3:00pm to 7:00pm” or something
It's not a skill to see that a spot might be open. You just let the driver know, and they can verify, if you're unsure. Just helping out is basic common sense.
Flayed no one is saying they can’t find it themselves they are just saying you don’t have to be an asshole and be completely useless unless you want the driver to have to lean over you to check if there are any parking spaces on your side
it’s not even the really about the “helping look for parking” thing It’s common understanding to be at least aware of your surroundings if you’re in the front seat, so if the driver missed a one-way or a “no turn on red”, or if there’s a person, animal, or a car about to go out in front of you, you can alert the driver so neither of you are in danger. hell, even saying “hey there’s a cop slow down” or helping check traffic over your shoulder for lane changes too. 90%+ of the time you won’t have to do or say anything, because yes, they’re likely able to handle it just fine! -but it seems a bit not great to just be in your own world like what I understood from his description haha
If you’re a passenger in a big metal death machine I sure hope you pay attention, any extra pair of eyes alerting the driver to hazards they may not be seeing is helpful, as well as just finding parking spaces. Do you want to walk three blocks to your destination or circle in the car forever waiting for something to open up? Don’t assume the driver is seeing everything you are; have some bit of awareness
Burnie was constantly making points that would be relevant to someone that drove, which Gavin doesn't. Gus also made the stupid ass comparison between a co-pilot of a plane and a passenger of a car, because one actually has control over the vehicle in question, while the other doesn't.
Ummm... gavin brought that point up though... he said the pilot of a plane doesnt need help... gus acknowledged they have a co-pilot... You're not wrong in the sense of how stupid the comparison was, but gavin brought it up, not gus...
@@Muffin_Pack lol gus still wasnt the one that brought it up... and gavin just said the pilot doesn't need help... i was just saying it was gavin that brought the pilot up, so idk why it matters what gavin was saying after that( or what he was "implying"). all i was saying is GAVIN brought up the pilot. See you said GUS brought up the analogy, which was the point i was making, gavin brought it up. Should i say gavin brought it up again? It doesnt matter that gavin back tracked to make himself look right(better or anything i dont care), he still brought it up.
Gavin would see a No Parking sign, say nothing, then when you get a ticket say "Oh I saw it when we parked, but I thought you knew what you were doing." Why are people friends with him?
Gavin isn't born in the states, right? Did he not have a valid driver's license before coming over either from overseas - it sounds like he has never actually driven a car or paid attention on the road
As someone who does not have a driver's license and does not plan to get one, I very much see where Gavin's coming from. I have been a passenger a lot and I always assume the person driving has a better understanding of where to park than me, so unless they ask (they never ask) I leave it to them. It's never once been a problem, I think Gus and Burnie blew this way outta proportion.
"Do you pay attention to planes signs when you're on the plane"
I literly broke once he said thay
“Isn’t weird that you only vacuum YOUR floor?”
Oh my how the tables have turned.
The context is different though.
MissBubbles yeah but the parallels are uncanny ain’t it?
3adool347 look up “RTAA construction”.
Unless you already have at this point, in which case never mind.
@@135mikerules23 Yeah, the parallels are hilarious for sure, Mike XD That's what makes this so funny too!
"YOU'RE AN IDIOT! I LAND IN ANOTHER PLACE!!!!"
I love rtaa's but damn this one I nearly pissed myself from laughing so much
I like that Gavin’s argument here is: she can do it without me here therefore I don’t need to help. Imagine buying groceries with an s/o and they decide to not help you bring them inside because if they weren’t there you would be capable of doing it alone. The prerequisite for helping isn’t that the person couldn’t do the job alone.
Yeah, it is pretty funny. But at the same time, Gavin has said he'd be willing to help Meg as a navigator, even if he doesn't fully pay attention to street signs. What Burnie seems to be implying is he should do it all the time, even if Gavin also is pointing out Meg doesn't need him to navigate when they're on the road all the time.
Eh, it's more like if I was in charge of buying groceries, and my s/o didn't want to make any decisions about what brand of bread we got. Deciding where to park is a decision based thing, rather than carrying groceries, which is a physical thing
I hate it when people try to help my park regardless whether it's my gf, siblings, mates or whoever. I just find it distracting unless I literally drove past an empty spot. It's not too difficult to scan a parking lot or do a quick check on parking signs
i think its more gavin should pay attention on whats going on around him rather than "they dont need me so im going to check out".
One is a very simple job designed to be possible and simple for one person, the other is grocery shopping
It feels like Gavin have given up on the idea of ever getting a drivers license and also him saying that it isn't a joint effort to find a parking space is weird. Even as a kid i always tried looking for somewhere to park so that we could get out of the car faster
Gavs paranoid about getting into an accident or doing something illegal in the car and getting deported
Whenever I hear Burnie say “Hey Gus” I know some gold it gunna be said
I love that the AA put Gavin in a child's seat XD
I hope u do the one about Michael eating the sandwich
You called it! It's one of my favorites.
Hold on.. Gavin said that he is willing to be the navigator so how does he not look at road signs when he is doing that?
Don't really need to with gps
Sometimes the gps tell me to do things that the signs contradict. The signs take precedence over your phone navigation. Still important to follow the sign rules.
@@iMatthewWilliams Looking at the road signs is something I would delegate to the driver. The navigator's job is generally just telling you when and where to turn, something which can be entirely done by a gps nowadays.
If I was on a road trip I would expect the narrator to decipher the highway signs and help me figure out what lane to be in. etc.
@@iMatthewWilliams What do you mean by etc? If the navigator tells you to get off at exit 8 in 2 miles, that's all the information you need to know which lane you need to be in at the time.
“it’s not a joint effort” ALWAYS WILL GET
Burnie's "ok" at 3:44 is so funny for no reason.
Yes, missed these!
2:53 best part of the whole thing. yes, better than the the Meg double bird derp face.
I think these episodes that prominently feature Gavin should be called "RTAA and Sauce"
Wouldnt that be confusing because alfredo gets called the sauce? Also why sauce?
@@ThatOneGuyThatsHere have you never heard Gavin say "source"? He says sauce
Gavin when he says "IF I DRIVE A CAR, I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHERE TO PARK!" is great because you can tell he's getting irritated a LITTLE about the hypothetical question in the first place as well as his trying to point out more to what Burnie is trying to get across. XD At least it isn't as nuts as the construction conversation.
It's such a weird argument. Pretty much none of the comparisons they come up with work, and this starts because it's assumed the passenger is apparently a co-pilot? Amusing chaotic nonsense, I love it. Thanks for the source!
When you are in a car the person right next to the pilot is the co-pilot, for example if you are doing a trip on car while the pilot is concentrade on the road, the other person can check a map and guide, look for important signs like that ones that tell you that a road is for normal vehicules or trucks, or look where make the right turn, or if a car is to close of your car (because sometimes are blind spots on the sight of a pilot) for puting some examples, in this case gavin is on the front seat whit her girlfriend so he should work as a copilot unless she says she dont need one (but he dont even try), the point here is that gavin says: why should i look for car signs if i dont drive, on a 13 to 15 years old teenager can be a normal question, but for someone like gavin it makes no sense, imagine that gavin for any reason have an emergency and need to drive, if what gavin says was true he wouldnt be capable of drive "only if what gavin says was true", and the point what burnie tries to make is that "not because you dont do something, doesnt mean you should not care or pay attencion to it"
First off, I genuinely love that people are still posting on this argument. lolz.
I'm going to chalk this up to 'it depends on the person and place'. Apparently, a lot of people do agree with Burnie, in that helping someone find a parking spot is what is polite and expected. However, where I come from... if you try to help someone find a parking spot, you get chewed out for being a backseat driver. Unless I explicitly ask you for help, or I'm about to do something illegal because I'm distracted, you shut your damn mouth about my driving. I'm with Gavin on this one. Unless you need directions, driving isn't a joint effort.
“Where do you park your jet ski?”
My face slowly turned into Burnie’s face. A jet ski, really? A jet ski is a single-seat vehicle (excluding someone holding onto you from behind). I learned that if you *know* the person you’re driving with, you ask them, “Hey, uh, you need help finding a spot to park?” Because when you go out to an event where there’s zero parking space, and people are parked on the grass or wherever, you *definitely* help the driver find a spot to park in.
Simple terms: if they ask for help, help. If they say no, shrug it off.
Gavin character in the RT Aaron at 2:54 is like the "are part out stupid" face and I love it
Barbara with those glasses 😍
Im glad someone else said this! That is an awesome look for her imo
Tyralion GOD I almost had a heart attack watching this
2:10 The look on Barbara's face, "I can't believe they are having an argument over parking signs. What's next Gavin sitting on Gus?" Later in show. "God damn it
Even barb in animated form got mad that she was interrupted haha
Gavin can seem like a jerk at times, and I love it
we've known for a while that he's a piece of shit, that was the whole point barbara was trying to make.
At times? He always seems like a jerk because he is a jerk.
Its like what Michael said. Everyone is a piece of shit, its just Gavin that doesn't admit it lol
I love it when Gus and Burnie do the thing.
The look on burnies animated face when Gavin asked about the water ski I couldn't stop laughing lol fucking perfect plus the deep breath
“I DON’T KNOW ‘CAUSE I’M NOT A F*CKING COMMERCIAL PILOT!”
He thinks they are insulting/making fun of Meg but really they are making fun of him.
No they are making fun of Meg without realizing
I would just be the alarm/insurance cause some drivers are just totally ignorant.
I was in a car when my friend almost crashed into another because he did not notice the moron who was literally parked on the bridge, and for some reason my friend did not register in his mind that he should move out of the way. Kept telling me "Man if you didn't say anything, we would've crashed"
While some of my ignorant friends just refuses to follow some street rules and sometimes just speed right through very dangerous places, especially at night. Whenever I point it out, they just say "Haven't crashed yet"
Plus, looking around also helps you learn the streets if you're not familiar with the place.
In the podcast's situation, sometimes if you spot a better parking, why not suggest it? And if I use Gavin's challenge about helicopters, jet skis, and planes... Well if I know how to use those things, sure I'd definitely look out as a co-pilot or something, but I ain't, so I'd shut up and let the ones who are pros to do it
Great. Now it its in my head.
Now I want to see Meg in a chauffeur costume.
yeah it's polite to point out spots you see from your side
1:44 Barbara: Here we go again
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Isn't the co-pilot actually there so if the pilot goes for a wizz they are paying attention to where the plane is going
The reason for the co pilot is to help each other in the plane. The only real difference between a pilot and a co pilot is who is flying the plane. They help each other to accomplish the flight and bring it down safely.
The thing they need to explain to Gavin is that it’s a matter of courtesy to help the driver find a parking spot because they have to focus on other things on the road
Not really, it's not rocket science
They said that multiple times
Even with First, that’s fast. Well done, Hembo.
Gavin's little child seat in the animated
Helicopters and airplanes require flight plans with pre determined routes and take off and landing
Is anyone else concerned that Burnie and Gus are two adult men in their 40's that still need someone to help them park their cars for them?
Gavin’s British. As a people we don’t like to talk to each other. You don’t start conversations when you don’t need to.
"If I had a car, I'd be able to tell you where to park!" So, does he just go blind as a passenger? He's never seen a *parking* lot before? Does he not realize cars park places? Literally 5 years later and this argument still pisses me off
love the end too, completely debases his entire point.
This is such a good one omg, its even better seeing both their real faces and the cartoon faces side by side lmaoo
Is this how Burnie gets ready to record dialogue for Church?
Gotta love Burnie & Gavin arguments
I love Gus and Burnie teeing off on Gavin’s own logic lol
Whoo! Missed these.
They're back! Sweet!
2:16 You pushed the Church button.
To be honest, i don't trust my co pilots anymore. I have not met a single co pilot in my car that actually helps. My bro is unable to read the gps.
I have to say no one was right in this. While it would be nice of you to help whoever's driving you to find a parking space it's not necessary. It's not a requirement
Dragon Fire yea but when your in the drivers seat you have to look on both sides of your car even the side your not on so you will have to lean a little so burnie is more in the right than gavin
True true
Nobody is saying its a requirement, the issue is gavin's blatant obliviousness to common courtesy. It simple reinforces the fact that Gavin is a dick.
Jacky Boy Mirrors... turn your head... basic test points to get your license
But his point is that if someone doesn't ask for help then it isn't needed
they should do an RT Life where Gavin learns how to drive.
This is one of the times when I can safely say Gavin is dead wrong.
Duxan Aven I agree. I can usually see Gavin's point on things, this is definitely not one.
I mean the driver can easily find a parking spot looking from right to left quickly. Whenever we go out we don't have to help each other find a spot. It's a pretty simple thing to do
I don't understand, how is he wrong? Why do people need help finding a parking spot? It sounded like they felt lost in a forest trying to find a parking spot. You just need to look for a space, it's not that hard. I can park by myself, I don't need a passenger to help me look and I wouldn't ask them to help me look either. My eyes work fine. (With glasses on, they do :P)
Strength DF imagine if we were in a car together you want me to lean over you looking for a fucking parking spot on your side of the car violating all your personal space unless your into it I highly doubt it
You forget, this was in the city of Austin. Driving in the city is hellish, and parking spaces are difficult to find.
They don't discuss it, but it's really a question of competence. I don't drive, and when I'm in a car I don't feel competent to judge what might be a valid and achievable parking space. I think that's a skill you can only get from actually driving.
But you can see if there’s a free spot on your window side. Or if there’s a sign that says in big letters “NO PARKING HERE MON-FRI 3:00pm to 7:00pm” or something
It's not a skill to see that a spot might be open. You just let the driver know, and they can verify, if you're unsure. Just helping out is basic common sense.
IT IS A JOINT EFFORT!!!
It really isn't
This one was hilarious but I have to side with Gavin here 😂
Me too honestly I prefer when my passengers don't say anything
Ye, if I'm driving I'm fully able to find a parking space myself lmao, If it's a mate of mine, I'm sure they're capable too :')
Flayed no one is saying they can’t find it themselves they are just saying you don’t have to be an asshole and be completely useless unless you want the driver to have to lean over you to check if there are any parking spaces on your side
Can’t believe that I agree with Gavin.
The analogy of the electricity bill doesn't make sense because Gavin isn't making Meg's life any worse he is a neutral party
You know It's kind of an unwritten rule of car passengers that if you are in the front seat you are a spotter/copilot.
Honestly since I don't have a license I don't care. But if I do, I would help.
This killed me omfg hahaha
it’s not even the really about the “helping look for parking” thing
It’s common understanding to be at least aware of your surroundings if you’re in the front seat, so if the driver missed a one-way or a “no turn on red”, or if there’s a person, animal, or a car about to go out in front of you, you can alert the driver so neither of you are in danger. hell, even saying “hey there’s a cop slow down” or helping check traffic over your shoulder for lane changes too.
90%+ of the time you won’t have to do or say anything, because yes, they’re likely able to handle it just fine!
-but it seems a bit not great to just be in your own world like what I understood from his description haha
I miss burnie
I love how they have Gavin in a Car seat, cuz hes a child LOL
If you’re a passenger in a big metal death machine I sure hope you pay attention, any extra pair of eyes alerting the driver to hazards they may not be seeing is helpful, as well as just finding parking spaces. Do you want to walk three blocks to your destination or circle in the car forever waiting for something to open up? Don’t assume the driver is seeing everything you are; have some bit of awareness
Please don't stop doing these
Man, I would never want to have someone like that as my passenger in a place like NYC or any major city
For real, I'd hope I was getting paid.
Burnie was constantly making points that would be relevant to someone that drove, which Gavin doesn't. Gus also made the stupid ass comparison between a co-pilot of a plane and a passenger of a car, because one actually has control over the vehicle in question, while the other doesn't.
Gavin was also marking points as a passenger doesnt need to drive at the time another in the same car is driving.
Muffin Pack and the co-pilot knows how to fly a plane
Ummm... gavin brought that point up though... he said the pilot of a plane doesnt need help... gus acknowledged they have a co-pilot...
You're not wrong in the sense of how stupid the comparison was, but gavin brought it up, not gus...
Gavin was implying the pilot wouldn't need assistance from a passenger, you can see that with what he follows it up with.
@@Muffin_Pack lol gus still wasnt the one that brought it up... and gavin just said the pilot doesn't need help... i was just saying it was gavin that brought the pilot up, so idk why it matters what gavin was saying after that( or what he was "implying"). all i was saying is GAVIN brought up the pilot. See you said GUS brought up the analogy, which was the point i was making, gavin brought it up. Should i say gavin brought it up again? It doesnt matter that gavin back tracked to make himself look right(better or anything i dont care), he still brought it up.
Why do they treat parking like it's raising a kid? One person can figure out where to park just fine.
Gavin would see a No Parking sign, say nothing, then when you get a ticket say "Oh I saw it when we parked, but I thought you knew what you were doing."
Why are people friends with him?
My wife is also British and she's the absolute worst copilot to have in a car
Fight fight fight kiss kiss
Gavin is right in this if you’re the passenger you sit down shut up and if the driver needs help they shouldn’t be driving
3:14
Gavin isn't born in the states, right? Did he not have a valid driver's license before coming over either from overseas - it sounds like he has never actually driven a car or paid attention on the road
Gavin is comparing a car to a plane
They both have wheels
Lance fisher they both explode
As someone who does not have a driver's license and does not plan to get one, I very much see where Gavin's coming from. I have been a passenger a lot and I always assume the person driving has a better understanding of where to park than me, so unless they ask (they never ask) I leave it to them. It's never once been a problem, I think Gus and Burnie blew this way outta proportion.
Unpopular opinion, I’m siding with gavin on this one
Gavin's arguments either make complete sense or make no fucking sense at all, either way he's not changing his mind and there's no in-between lol
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Makes you wonder if HemboHero's got something to say about the argument(s) ()
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I just love how Gavin literally has no comprehension of parking cause he doesn't drive.
Gavin knows he's in the wrong hahaha!!!!
I absolutely agree with Gavin on this lmao, you're not supposed to co-pilot the car, pointing out parking spots, like no one does that.
i think it’s either/or. it wouldn’t hurt for gavin to help but it’s not like Meg is legally blind lol
Love Gavin a lot, but man is he ever wrong.
Gavin was 100% right
Personally I hate when people try to co-pilot. If you wanted to park you could have driven lol
Dude, parking isn't hard. If you needed two people to figure it out then nobody would ever drive alone.
9 months since I genuinely enjoyed an RT video and yep.... Barbara is still ruining the Podcast.