An Alternative Tomato Pruning Method for Higher Yields: Topping off Tomato Suckers for More Tomatoes

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  • @leslierm.6732
    @leslierm.6732 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    About a week and a half ago we had an overnight freeze come through and it really hit my tomatoes plants hard. Also got some leaves of my squash. Tomatoes were doing so well but now they have to recover, not sure all will survive. Oh well, that's the life of a garden. You have such a beautiful garden. Always enjoy your informative videos. Thank you. Gods blessings 🙏

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

      This instance is where I give them water soluble chemical type fertilizers and than go back to my organic ways. It really helps with new growth for damaged plants.
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    • @leslierm.6732
      @leslierm.6732 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@THERUSTEDGARDEN Thank you so much. I did just what you suggested. Gods blessings 🙏

  • @laurenjacobsen7273
    @laurenjacobsen7273 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is exactly what I needed to see right now! Thank you for sharing this information!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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  • @chrisschultz1580
    @chrisschultz1580 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the best tomato pruning tutorial I've ever seen. I knew how to prune for single or double stemming, but this takes it to another level entirely. I will definitely be trying and learning this technique in this year's garden.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ill be using this method primarily this year.
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  • @ceecee-thetransplantedgardener
    @ceecee-thetransplantedgardener ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I have heard of - and used - the topping of the plant as I am getting to the end of my season ... but never used this "during" the season. See? This is why I love your channel. I'm always learning. Thank you!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am still learning too. That is why I love growing.

  • @bingster-223
    @bingster-223 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's a good technique I might borrow it. I have 18 indeterminate tomatoes growing up on string, my 4 Cherokee Purple plants when they put out a cluster of blooms they are continuing to grow into a productive stem. I've been pruning them off. I've had this happen occasionally but not on almost every cluster. I have my determinates in a weave and at this point I can see they are loaded up big time. If they stay healthy I should have plenty of tomatoes and lots of canning to do.

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  • @ivahihopeful
    @ivahihopeful ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent! This is what I ended up doing with many of my plants this year that were getting out of hand.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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      It works. Experiment with the cuts and have fun,
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  • @summerbeemeadow
    @summerbeemeadow ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the timely advice. I was just about to do some tomato plant maintenance!

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  • @dougreynolds2813
    @dougreynolds2813 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i've planted a bunch of cherry tomato plants on a cattle panel arch, i was thinking about pruning this way; thanks for confirming my thought process, good video.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

      This will work. Cherries can get out of control and are vigorous growers.
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  • @tbone9194
    @tbone9194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the information. Your videos are the best, always direct to the point. Thank you!

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  • @lamgardn3800
    @lamgardn3800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great idea! I'm going to try it this year.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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  • @C3Voyage
    @C3Voyage ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There you go. The effect is to reduce the primary apical stem growth too reducing height. Was just mentioning this to a guy for cucumbers. Same same for cucurbits. Another thing that you can do is let all suckers grow with a few leaves and top. The new growth is healthier than the older, lower leaves that you can now cut off. Older leaves are first to show signs of weakness and disease.

  • @gwenkilby
    @gwenkilby ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's exactly how I do mine. I couldn't bring myself to cut off the flower clusters on the suckers, so I keep them and just trim the growing top. Then when the plant is getting too tall, I let a lower sucker live and become the new main stem.

    • @ivahihopeful
      @ivahihopeful ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! That’s an excellent way to help keep them more manageable!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @carleanr4051
      @carleanr4051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much for this. I was struggling w having to cut suckers that had flowers on them 😩 so this helps me feel better about it! Gratitude always!💚🪴

  • @crycada
    @crycada ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! I have been following you for a few years and I have learned a lot from you! Thank you Gary! 😝👏🏼

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  • @kele1264
    @kele1264 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I probably should've used this technique before my SuperSweet 100s reached eight feet, in the last garden I grew. Although I think next time I'll be ready for them with arched cattle panel. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

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  • @Innerdiamond
    @Innerdiamond ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you...super useful to manage size

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  • @AJWGBFX
    @AJWGBFX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is very similar to how I prune my hot pepper and aubergines plants in the greenhouse. I allow a side shoot to survive very early, then prune out every side shoot for a couple of feet, before letting the plants then have a bit more freedom to branch and fruit as they will.

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  • @destinyandpurpose
    @destinyandpurpose ปีที่แล้ว

    Well.. you have given me a new way to control my tomato plants. Last year they got really big, I used the FL weave, it worked but I wanted something a bit stronger. Went with cattle panels this year, but now I am thinking pruning this way will really help with with the size. Thanks for sharing!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @tthappyrock368
    @tthappyrock368 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to try this! One of the varieties I grow really likes to spread out and this will be a good solution!

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  • @joanies6778
    @joanies6778 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great tip! I usually end up missing a sucker and find it after flowers appear. It's hard to remove a sucker with flowers since we have a short season. Topping it, instead, just makes sense!

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  • @cacobarruvias5247
    @cacobarruvias5247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! Learned something valuable today. Thank you.

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  • @Taai02
    @Taai02 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea and very informative, Thankyou!

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  • @loribethartist6353
    @loribethartist6353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s been my whole problem about pruning tomatoes… it seems like doing it severely looses fruit amount! Thanks for the video!

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    • @carleanr4051
      @carleanr4051 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@THERUSTEDGARDENI so appreciate you showing us this!

  • @jeas4980
    @jeas4980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Perfect timing! I let my yellow pears go crazy thinking they were determinant (they are not) and I think I'm going to do this with them to tame them. Thank you.

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  • @jenniferrice983
    @jenniferrice983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much. I have a tomatoes plant that looks like it's gonna die but has a lot of tomatoes on them. if I cut the stem half way down will it grow out and get more tomatoes this season??

    • @ivahihopeful
      @ivahihopeful ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it might if the stem is healthy. I have a few plants dying, I think because I didn’t get the watering right.

  • @lindabranch8294
    @lindabranch8294 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is what happened to one of my plants, then I top mine. Production increased after the rain finally got clusters of tomatoes.

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  • @emilybh6255
    @emilybh6255 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you top off other plants to encourage more fruiting? I've heard you can top off cucumbers to encourage more production of side shoots where the fruit grows. But what about other plants?

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  • @andreuhuerta2043
    @andreuhuerta2043 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats funny, I just started to do that yesterday, hope to see the results soon

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  • @dennisrocker
    @dennisrocker ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for showing me an alternative way to clean up some of my indeterminate plants. I was afraid that I would get flowers so I stopped pruning except for bottom leaves.

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  • @davidw4346
    @davidw4346 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good technique, thanks.

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  • @gggeeek
    @gggeeek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just my experience, but I stopped pruning for control on my tomatoes a few years ago. I only remove diseased/damaged sections. My harvests are at all time highs and I spend so much less time on the plants now.

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  • @kimparker1752
    @kimparker1752 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: When the sucker you have topped off produces its fruit and has been harvested, will you then remove the sucker completely? Great video, appreciate your time!!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It depends on time of year and what you want. A lot of them will grow ne suckers in joints. If you need the leaves for growth, keep them. But you can do what you want really. Trying to make videos this summer that might have new or less talked about info.

  • @renedean4232
    @renedean4232 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My second yr here in SE Nth Carolina, I tried pruning aggressively on indeterminate tomatoes, but, I lost so much growth? I don't have the ability to vine high. This yr I'm pruning low, but being careful not to prune too much higher to attempt to avoid sun scalding. However, this yr, there's so much rain & heat together, even though I'm constantly pruning spotted, yellowing leaves, pests have taken over! Not only triple digit indexes, but won't stop raining enough to spray for pests😢 within a day I'm loosing half my harvest?😢

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    • @gemini76mc
      @gemini76mc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NC can be brutal at times. Some years my tomatoes have reached more than 8 feet tall and more tomatoes than I know what to do with and others the fungus or pests get out of control and I get a handful of tomatoes. This year the deer have been pruning liberally and topped 90% of my plants right out of the gate. Never a dull moment! Don’t give up!

  • @NewMindGarden
    @NewMindGarden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video ♥️♥️👍👍

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  • @rar40
    @rar40 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I accidently topped one of my cherry tomatoes in late May this year, when it was only 2 feet tall. Not sure how that happened. But then that plant started ripening tomatoes way faster than the others, and I was able to get 30-50 very early cherry tomatoes in June. I plan on doing it every year now.

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  • @louisthomas2531
    @louisthomas2531 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

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  • @jens-e5t
    @jens-e5t ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After your tomato sucker is done producing tomatoes do you take the whole sucker of all together?

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      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

      Realistically where leaves were left, youll get new suckers. So you can repeat. But if you dont need the leaves you can remove what is left.
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  • @La_La_La3
    @La_La_La3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I do when the main stem split and I don't know which one to keep. I will keep them both until I can tell which one is the strongest then I stop the continuation of the other one. I also do the same if there is a sucker that I missed.

  • @firecloud77
    @firecloud77 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All indeterminate tomato suckers will produce fruit. The suckers that begin at the leaf just below a fruit cluster (every third leaf/sucker) are the ones that will grow at the same rate as the main stem. I train my indeterminate tomato varieties to a single stem. But if I want a 2-stem plant, I allow the sucker that forms just under the first fruit cluster to become the second stem because it will grow at the same rate as the main stem, and then I prune out the rest of the suckers as they develop at each leaf. If I want a 3-stem plant, I allow the sucker that forms just under the second fruit cluster to become the third stem.
    I tie a string to the bottom of each stem, wrap the stem around it as it grows, and tie it to the top of a 6 foot tall trellis, cutting the stems when they reach the top.

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  • @brianramsey3824
    @brianramsey3824 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks I like that

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  • @carolholadayjewelry5675
    @carolholadayjewelry5675 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you use the same technique for cherry tomatoes? They get huge and bare until late fall in my garden.

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      You can do the same thing and I find cherries just get out of control so I prune them heavily at times.
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  • @gregmasciola3332
    @gregmasciola3332 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is pretty much what I've decided to do this year. I'm only pruning once a week and if the sucker already has flowers developing I'll leave them.

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  • @HamCubes
    @HamCubes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am embarrassed that I didn't know that.
    This is practical knowledge that I imagine a larger percentage of the population knew 100 years ago.
    Do you realize how many varieties I have avoided despite really wanting to grow them because I didn't want to deal with their size?
    I am a Grade-A idiot! 🙄🤣

    • @ivahihopeful
      @ivahihopeful ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m sure you’re probably just like the rest of us, learning new ways to garden. I hope you have a happy time gardening this year.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @reneeputnam3418
    @reneeputnam3418 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey y'all. I'm growing a determinate variety this year for the first time. I was under the impression not to try to stake it or prune it however it's going crazy in my garden! Not a bad thing but I tell it all the time "I know you're going to hide tomatoes in there that I will miss!" I hope it will help when they ripen. Should I be topping it?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

      They still need staking based on the size and can be pruned for the bottom leaves and leaf removal in center. Normally you dont top our remove sucker for determinates. You can if you want.
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  • @caroldragon7545
    @caroldragon7545 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the fuzzy white thing at 3:48? It looks like a fuzzy caterpillar.

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      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @carleanr4051
      @carleanr4051 ปีที่แล้ว

      I noticed the feather too 😊

  • @MPOULL
    @MPOULL ปีที่แล้ว

    Question, I have been using Aspirin Spray on tomatoes and peppers every 14 days. Should I continue this while plants are blooming/fruiting? Will spray gum up pollen and reduce fruiting?

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      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

      They spray wont harm any process. Every 2-3 weeks is fine. I havent read much evidence that it helps peppers but see what you notice.
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  • @renedean4232
    @renedean4232 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plus over half of my determinate tomatoes went wild early with so much rain? Weren't sposed to grow like indeterminate??

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  • @JM.TheComposer
    @JM.TheComposer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm confused - Doesn't heat cause tomatoes to ripen? Why promote shade around fruit clusters?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Heat doesnt promote ripening. Warmth is the air anyway, not the sun. Tomatoes exposed to the sun directly can get sunscald.

    • @thomashill3457
      @thomashill3457 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tomato change colors at night

    • @ivahihopeful
      @ivahihopeful ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know that my tomatoes stay green FOREVER when it gets too hot. There’s probably a sweet spot.

    • @hands2hearts-seeds2feedamu83
      @hands2hearts-seeds2feedamu83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can pick tomatoes green & sit them in a warm place in your home and those green tomatoes will soon become the ripe color they should be.
      @everyone I love using the suckers I cut off and making new tomato plants. So cool, just cut off sucker, trim up all but maybe 2 leaves, poke sucker into a jar of water or soaked soil, in a wk or 2 your suckers will start growing roots. SO amazing.

    • @artstamper316
      @artstamper316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hands2hearts-seeds2feedamu83 me--that tomato ripening Trish doesn't always work.

  • @brianmorgan5880
    @brianmorgan5880 ปีที่แล้ว

    I should have topped my plants! I'm growing Napa Grape Hybrids. The seed packet said "mature height of 40-48 inches. They are now 7 feet tall and outgrowing the 48" tomato cages. I just had to snip off a 2-foot long branch that fell over and creased at the top rung of the cage. I lost a dozen or more tomatoes. Next season I'll know to top them. Trust not the seed package!

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  • @MountainViewGardens
    @MountainViewGardens ปีที่แล้ว

    The hail storm topped a bunch of my tomatoes

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  • @hands2hearts-seeds2feedamu83
    @hands2hearts-seeds2feedamu83 ปีที่แล้ว

    @everyone
    Is there a place in your area to trade seeds ??? Like a seed bank?
    I do not have much money but would love to trade sum the seeds i have to others for some of their seeds. I am looking for cherry tomatoes in a rainbow of colors. A short day to harvest corn, & bug resistant types of squash, open polinated for all. The older the line if seeds the better such history from sum seeds

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  • @dkulikowski
    @dkulikowski ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Won't the 'topping off' cause the sucker stem to 'sucker' down where the original sucker came off of the 'main' stem. I think it will continue to sucker. It is indeterminate and it WILL continue to sucker.

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      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah suckers sucker and those suckers sucker. In theory. You would remove them if they show. However, the plant is working on growing fruit too and sometimes the suckering slows in the lower growth. But it would be true in theory,.
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  • @innerthought4012
    @innerthought4012 ปีที่แล้ว

    The same rule for cannabis is the same rule for tomatoes top to Bush out and produce more yield...

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      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @jeremycourt7008
    @jeremycourt7008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome 👌

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