Counter attack damage comparison (assuming all “hostile” effects are triggered) Leon Es5: Attacking-----90+45=135X6X2+ extra hit 15X6= 1710 Defending----90+45=135X6X2+ extra hit 15X6X3= 1890 Snake Eye Es5: 80+40=120X6X2 = 1440 Leon Es7: Attacking---- 90+45+25=160X9X2+ extra hit 15X9 = 3015 Defending--- 90+45+25=160X9X2+ extra hit 15X9X3= 3285 Snake Eye ES7: 80+40+40= 160X6X2= 1920 but this is just maximum damage per round in theory, it needs all 9 slots 18 hostiles all be triggered, I think in actual battle except against air, can't guarantee all trigger each round
so I think es5 Leon's damage potential equals to around 0.9 of es7 Snake Eye. This is because snake eye's es7 is not like other trigger skill heros, they can't make the damage that high. If player have es7 Snake eye they don't have to go for Leon unless they are going to get Leon es7. However I think for majority of normal spender running es5 army they should build magnet army as it provides the best performance value per dollars compare to other marches, plus Nelle's replacement should come in Jan next year
@@t-me8295 even though I think magnet army win over counter attack army because higher damage figures. but in terms of mechanisum I think counter attack is better than magnet, because counter attack deals damage early than later like magnet which either waiting to be detonated or summarised at the end of each round
Hi timmy, I did the test today between both marches (with Duke instead of Striker) on the folllwing setup: Dmg+-: 300% march size 200, attack/HP 2000, lv 5 exclusive skills. Leon won 8/10 against Snake Eyes when attacking and 8/10 times when defending. On average, the Leon march had like 30% HP left. I think looking at the design of Leon it is quite reasonable to use the march with PO and Duke/Striker/Shinji for base defense and building defense which is a good thing to have in order to move tank main march freely. One thing one should note: The Resistence of Leon at the beginning of the fight is very powerful in particular when it comes down to the Heavy Trooper, because the opponents Heavy Trooper will most times attack first, and so the damage of the opponents HT is negated in the first round, which I think is a very strong effect. Also, of course the resistence is less great against airforce or especially navy, but on the other hand, Leon's design cpmpares that because against these unit types the hostile stacks will be consumed way faster, so he also attacks way faster with the extra damage. I'm going to run the tests Leon vs. Snake Eyes against navy and airforce meta as well.
@@t-me8295 Yes I saw your other video. Only shows how strong the magnetic pulse meta is. But I think it can be viewed as an advantage: Instead of optimizing the main march again and again, we got a very good hero for our home. I noticed that I was struggling a lot which march I'm using for attacking for example in Titan Canyon and which march should protect my base. A tank march is obviously the best defense for the base and I think Leon might be the right hero to do this job.
I have po snake and striker. Is it a crazy idea to just make quily nelle and merv at this point? I really feel I am much weaker than the current meta. And even with the new hero I don’t feel that would help me a lot.
Hi T-me, my current main three hero as of now are the Shinji , Gipsy and Po . When I tried the Hero Trial I do Shinji, Gipsy, and Po Vs Shinji, Gipsy, and Leon ... The Team with Leon will always win either defense or attacker, should I change the Po to Leon ? Thank you. Great Video,
It’s absolutely normal cause you need that support type of hero cause of also that MASSIVE hp buff. In the long run , you must replace gipsy. Ps: you see me using : gipsy striker Po …BUT cause all 3 have lvl 7
Hi Timmy, what strikes me is that you always have your heroes with indestructible in the second slot, I was told on our server that the hero with indestructible should be in the first slot, which is better now? For the heavy troops, I was told to put them on a different unit type so that I only have to place a third unit in slot 9 to have the encirclement. I play navy and have set the heavy troops to air force, of course with the chips for navy, so ships in slot 7 and tanks in slot 9. What I wanted to know was whether that made sense because I noticed that my heavy troop against the army was gone pretty quickly. It would be great if you could give me an answer to my questions.
1, hero order matter . I generally use the indestructible hero on 2nd place , BUT it depends on the setup . Like Layla or duke …MUST BE infront of zhen or crimson. So they apply the debilitation for crimson or zhen to hit harder. 2. NEVER MIX the stats on your HT chips. If you HT is set for Navi ..aim for ALL STATS to be Navi . 3. On encirclement. I have a video in that : up circa 300% dmg+ / - , DO NOT USE the encirclement anymore
@@t-me8295 Thanks for your answer, that helped me now 🤗 My Navy Duke, Po, Asuka the march is finished and I'm currently building up the second army. I have Striker, Gipsy and Bumbelbee there. Now I don't know what to do with Bumbel, I was hoping that a new Navy hero would come along with HP for Marines and I could send Asuka to the army. That's not the case now. Would it be worth raising Zhen so that I can put Asuka in the army, or better yet, Leon in the army straight away? I have enough shards for 2 heroes at 5 stars and also for the exclusive at 5
IF you dont use it , why you need to unlock it ? i mean for people who got like only 1 march and can afford to get 3 march fully perk and fully es 5 5 star ?
Hey guys i feel that maple is still a good hero as it still can beat meow. 11/20 wins maple, lilia, jester (atk) vs meow ,lilia, jester (def) the other day when i tried was 9/20 what u think T-me?
Maple needs an extra hero to push her performance. Just like Lilia pushes meow , like nelle pushing Quilly (or bry) . Without such a hero , maple is trash
Counter attack damage comparison (assuming all “hostile” effects are triggered)
Leon Es5: Attacking-----90+45=135X6X2+ extra hit 15X6= 1710
Defending----90+45=135X6X2+ extra hit 15X6X3= 1890
Snake Eye Es5: 80+40=120X6X2 = 1440
Leon Es7: Attacking---- 90+45+25=160X9X2+ extra hit 15X9 = 3015
Defending--- 90+45+25=160X9X2+ extra hit 15X9X3= 3285
Snake Eye ES7: 80+40+40= 160X6X2= 1920
but this is just maximum damage per round in theory, it needs all 9 slots 18 hostiles all be triggered, I think in actual battle except against air, can't guarantee all trigger each round
Great work Roy , laying the numbers down. I will pin your message to the video . ❤️
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hello T-Me.. I'm currently using Po Asuka and Morving. Would it be better if I replaced Asuka with Leon?
so I think es5 Leon's damage potential equals to around 0.9 of es7 Snake Eye. This is because snake eye's es7 is not like other trigger skill heros, they can't make the damage that high. If player have es7 Snake eye they don't have to go for Leon unless they are going to get Leon es7. However I think for majority of normal spender running es5 army they should build magnet army as it provides the best performance value per dollars compare to other marches, plus Nelle's replacement should come in Jan next year
@@t-me8295 even though I think magnet army win over counter attack army because higher damage figures. but in terms of mechanisum I think counter attack is better than magnet, because counter attack deals damage early than later like magnet which either waiting to be detonated or summarised at the end of each round
Hi timmy, I did the test today between both marches (with Duke instead of Striker) on the folllwing setup: Dmg+-: 300% march size 200, attack/HP 2000, lv 5 exclusive skills. Leon won 8/10 against Snake Eyes when attacking and 8/10 times when defending. On average, the Leon march had like 30% HP left.
I think looking at the design of Leon it is quite reasonable to use the march with PO and Duke/Striker/Shinji for base defense and building defense which is a good thing to have in order to move tank main march freely.
One thing one should note: The Resistence of Leon at the beginning of the fight is very powerful in particular when it comes down to the Heavy Trooper, because the opponents Heavy Trooper will most times attack first, and so the damage of the opponents HT is negated in the first round, which I think is a very strong effect.
Also, of course the resistence is less great against airforce or especially navy, but on the other hand, Leon's design cpmpares that because against these unit types the hostile stacks will be consumed way faster, so he also attacks way faster with the extra damage.
I'm going to run the tests Leon vs. Snake Eyes against navy and airforce meta as well.
Absolutely, Leon looks better the snake BUT leon won’t change the tank meta : quil - Marvi - nelle
@@t-me8295 Yes I saw your other video. Only shows how strong the magnetic pulse meta is. But I think it can be viewed as an advantage: Instead of optimizing the main march again and again, we got a very good hero for our home. I noticed that I was struggling a lot which march I'm using for attacking for example in Titan Canyon and which march should protect my base. A tank march is obviously the best defense for the base and I think Leon might be the right hero to do this job.
I wanna be notified 😊
Thanks for explanation,, waiting for the next episode
Great work as always
Have you looked into whether there is benefit in using Leon with Scorpion formation vs Shark or Eagle?
Thanks for the Video Buddy ❤
Thank you Timmy!
Thank you so much buddy!
Thank you Captain ❤️
Thanks Tme❤
I have po snake and striker. Is it a crazy idea to just make quily nelle and merv at this point? I really feel I am much weaker than the current meta. And even with the new hero I don’t feel that would help me a lot.
Ty T-Me for your time knowledge and yes Money 💰 🤑 💸 🙌
Thank you BigYeti
Finally top war 🔥
We will see if the viewership are coming back . If that’s the case , I will carry on doing TOPWAR content
Yes Timmy, I used 102K gems and have upgraded him to level 100 with 4 points to level up to 120, cheers.
Your call buddy. The hero is solid , but march synergy + runes = I still see Quilly + marvi + nelle to be best
Hi T-me, my current main three hero as of now are the Shinji , Gipsy and Po . When I tried the Hero Trial I do Shinji, Gipsy, and Po Vs Shinji, Gipsy, and Leon ... The Team with Leon will always win either defense or attacker, should I change the Po to Leon ? Thank you. Great Video,
It’s absolutely normal cause you need that support type of hero cause of also that MASSIVE hp buff. In the long run , you must replace gipsy.
Ps: you see me using : gipsy striker Po …BUT cause all 3 have lvl 7
@@t-me8295 alright thank you, I will just put the gipsy to my second team.
Hi Timmy, what strikes me is that you always have your heroes with indestructible in the second slot, I was told on our server that the hero with indestructible should be in the first slot, which is better now? For the heavy troops, I was told to put them on a different unit type so that I only have to place a third unit in slot 9 to have the encirclement. I play navy and have set the heavy troops to air force, of course with the chips for navy, so ships in slot 7 and tanks in slot 9. What I wanted to know was whether that made sense because I noticed that my heavy troop against the army was gone pretty quickly. It would be great if you could give me an answer to my questions.
1, hero order matter . I generally use the indestructible hero on 2nd place , BUT it depends on the setup .
Like Layla or duke …MUST BE infront of zhen or crimson. So they apply the debilitation for crimson or zhen to hit harder.
2. NEVER MIX the stats on your HT chips. If you HT is set for Navi ..aim for ALL STATS to be Navi .
3. On encirclement. I have a video in that : up circa 300% dmg+ / - , DO NOT USE the encirclement anymore
@@t-me8295 Thanks for your answer, that helped me now 🤗 My Navy Duke, Po, Asuka the march is finished and I'm currently building up the second army. I have Striker, Gipsy and Bumbelbee there. Now I don't know what to do with Bumbel, I was hoping that a new Navy hero would come along with HP for Marines and I could send Asuka to the army. That's not the case now. Would it be worth raising Zhen so that I can put Asuka in the army, or better yet, Leon in the army straight away? I have enough shards for 2 heroes at 5 stars and also for the exclusive at 5
@t-me8295 I missed this video - why shouldn't we be using encirclement?
@mattjones43 the lvl 7 on Leon will apply this effect on all 3 rows, but just on tanks
IF you dont use it , why you need to unlock it ? i mean for people who got like only 1 march and can afford to get 3 march fully perk and fully es 5 5 star ?
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Hey guys i feel that maple is still a good hero as it still can beat meow.
11/20 wins maple, lilia, jester (atk) vs meow ,lilia, jester (def)
the other day when i tried was 9/20
what u think T-me?
Maple needs an extra hero to push her performance. Just like Lilia pushes meow , like nelle pushing Quilly (or bry) . Without such a hero , maple is trash
We have a hero with my name 😂❤
You are for sure better then this hero