no he make more the 700+aulta in 1 tyear.. imagin at age 18 u could being poor acting poor retire at age 18 ka never have a sing le job eevr and never have to look at a price tab u want it u got it...... math is hard for ppl smarter then me is odd in a odd sheldon
@@y_ffordd after ww2 many people should have been introduced as British coming here do you know 100 years ago the world was completely different from today and before ww2 the middle east is different from what the British empire was but do you know most of the world's Muslim population actually lived under us British 100 years ago if they where coming here from our colonies or British commonwealth nations after ww2 they should have been Introduced as British.
Where were all these facts prior to the fatal dive? And yet had the 'license' to operate or went unchecked? In what capacity did the company get those people to pay to dive? Seems to unfold like a year-long Scammer and Victim situation?
@@JuJu-fi8oo that's so true.. I guess they really kept all these under wraps. Cos if it was released, I'm sure that unfortunate day wouldn't have happened.
Just did a road trip few months ago. On our way back it was approximately 18 hours with refueling and rest stops. I can't imagine being stuck 2 hours in this tin can!
Maybe that's why the company didn't want an independent safety inspection: They knew they'd be closed down. If the bloody thing was a ride in a theme-park it would be closed immediately!
The message that said that two weights were dropped clearly shows that they knew they were in trouble and most likely the passengers understood that as well. The only reason for them to drop weights would be to ascend as quickly as possible because they understood that the pressure was to much for the vessel.
i remember watching one of the reportables stating that they descended @ almost 2x the normal rate, as if in free-falling, gotta wonder if the accelerated flexing of the pressure vessel didnt play a part in the demise? pressure is pressure & I get that but a slower rate of descent means slower rate flex as wel, no?
@@Toobzilla it was made out of carbon fibre, which was the first major engineering no, no, carbon fibres strength is built to go in a given direction, the whole thing should have been made out of titanium.
How ruthless and terrible do you have to be to not only get people to sign up for this… but to encourage them to bring their kids and family too!… what a cruel human being
Even if you can get out at the depths the sub was at you’d be crushed opening anything probably safer that they can’t get out in case someone starts to panic.
I guess the thing is that even if you could open it from the inside, the pressure is so intense that far down, you’d never be able to push the door open much less survive that pressure to escape. The only time having that ability to open the door from the inside makes sense is if the craft reached the surface.
From my understanding, they were at sea level and had complications in getting the sub in the platform where they usually put it. It was after they had finished a dive.
Why can’t people leave the titanic wreck site the hell alone ??? The titanic wreck site is not a theme park it’s a wreck site and grave site where innocent human beings lost their lives diving companies offering trips to the titanic should be sanctioned and taken to federal court.
It's not really about Tiranic, but their adrenaline rush for going so deep under the ocean. This CEO was an absolute idiot, and refused to accept that there are damn good reasons why people don't go so far deep down (space is safer). Or that his badly constructed submarine is not up for the task.
There are videos here on TH-cam explaining how fast the implosion happened in comparison to the human brain reaction time. In conclusion, not only was it a painless death, they didn’t have time to know it happened. However, there’s always the argument that they knew what was inevitable for god knows how long (probably a few minutes before).
It could have been prevented by using a material that isn't weakened by compression and decompression. The main hull was laminated layers glued together, every dive would have reduced its strength considerably, fine for things that float but not sink and surface over and over
Many pointed out that Carbon fiber: 1 - Only good when the force is pependicular so it beed a lot of layers cooked with resin, 2 - the 0.1% and 0.01% of fiber did not have link with resin is a large gap in quality, 3 - its good for resistance force inside, so its good for space vessels but not submersible, and 4 - It cannot recovered after suffered from compressions or extension unlike metals.
Any material will eventually fail at that pressure. The real key is knowing at what point it's too dangerous to continue using it and binning it for a new one.
He insisted on using carbon fiber instead of the material they had always used... Titanium. All bc it was cheaper. We already learned this with the Chernobyl fail, never use cheaper materials just bc it's more economic. It's also more dangerous.
Stockton Rush didn’t want to feel the pressure of an external panel of investigators: he had a choice to refuse. He had no choice of rejecting the pressure of water at a depth of 3,300 meters.
@@lonerebeI It's a private company, that had clear waivers that include life-threatening references including death. This doesn't justify the CEO's stupid decisions, but you have a choice to carry on and sign that waiver or bail.
"The US Coast Guard will assess what went wrong, and whether the accident could've been prevented" I don't think it takes the Coast Guard to know whether or not this could've been prevented
"We thought outside the box to make this possible." Let's not think outside it because there's a good reason why there is one to begin with. It's stupid to have even thought this thing was as safe as possible in the first place.
Those same type of people thinking outside of the box voting for Trump this year. Sometimes don't need to be out of the box to work. Science is the key not fascist dictators.
his outside the box thinking was to see how much under bare minimum he could get away with when making a submarine that can reach the titanic. if you ask me that's not thinking outside the box thats idiocy. his pilot refused to drive it and saw nothing wrong about that. its stupidity and the brazen attitude to think your status puts you at any even ground against the forces of nature. nature can and will get all of us regardless of money and status.
Dropping weights is a method of controlling buoyancy and ensuring the safe operation of the submersible. The Titan had 6 removable ballast weights. It dropped just 2 of them. If it hadn't of dropped those weights the Titan would've crashed into the seabed.
@@Prince_Icarus- In this case Titan was loaded with actual weights which helped it reach the bottom of the ocean, but also drops weights to control buoyancy and also to get back to the surface, the fact they dropped weights suddenly suggests they knew they were in trouble and had to get back to the surface. But by then it was too late and imploded instantaneously. I was watching the hearing and one man who was apart of the recovery had said he knows where the failure occurred and it was the titanium ring that was glued in, the metal was completely sheared off, and if you look at the footage of them raising up the Titan wreckage you can actually spot one of the rings and it’s completely mangled, that was the failure point.
at that depth, they would have to release weights to stop the sub from descending any further and crash on the seabed. the sub is too small to let in water to use as extra weights to descend so they use external weights instead.
@@Scampi95 Absolute nonsense. Where did you get that from? As James Cameron would later say: "we understand from inside the community that they had dropped their ascent weights and were coming up, trying to manage an emergency."
@@Cleefbag71no, corporatism. Capitalism would mean we're able to compete with corporations, and they weren't government enforced monopolies like fascist socialist zaibatsus. What we have isn't anything like most systems we discuss.
What they should investigate is why they spent 100s of millions of dollars doing a rescue operation when it was obvious what happened and why they lied about it.
Oh for God's sake, it wasn't obvious and they did not lie to anyone. Even the sounds the navy heard where not 100% confirmed to be that of the implosion. Until they had visual confirmation, they had to continue the search instead of releasing premature statements based on secondary evidences like sounds or the time that had passed since communications were lost. I hate this conspiratorial mind set that seeks to find a conspiracy in absolutely everything even when there is none.
Because as the search and rescue team said; until you find the wreckage there's always a change, however small, that you're wrong. How much would it suck if you didn't take the effort and later discovered that the hull was intact, the noise was something else, and everyone had asphyxiated? Then there would always remain the fact that they might have been saved if you'd tried.
@@chilversc OK so every time someone goes missing at sea we should spend 100s of millions of dollars doing a search and rescue for the miniscule chance they are alive even though no one including the head of the coast guard believed they were?
@@shinestar2912 they do put on a reasonable search, but most people at sea go missing on the surface, and not almost 4km below the surface. That adds additional complications.
People were scared to challenge a bully who's talent didn't match his ego and people died because of it. But in saying that I wouldn't have been stupid enough to get in that crap
One of the victims was a teenager who was afraid and didn't want to go, but did it as a father's day gift to his father, who wanted him to come. kid is the only one I feel sorry for.
Especially since the sub experience 118 documented failures in 13 dives over two years. That is a staggering number. And those are only the documented ones which, seeing as the owner seems to be a piece of work, would likely only constitute a fraction of the actual numbers, or so I assume. Profoundly stupid to get on board that thing
We already have subs that can visit the titanic and now I guess the wreck of the titan. The difference will be, in future, they won't be ignoring safety procedures to cut costs. Stockton Rush was right to say submarines are generally safe. He just made an unsafe submarine on the cheap.
Yeah, it could have been prevented… He CHEATED on materials! Used carbon fiber in like an off-label application. Pressure vessel failure. The people are there. Pretty critical.
Imagine how loud the banging would have been as it slowly seperated each layer of glue, hitting each new layer at 2.500mph with hundreds of tons of force. Then getting faster and faster over several minutes until game over.
Dropping weights is normal. For descent you need negative buoyancy. When you get close to target depth you start dropping ballast weights to become neutrally buoyant.
Thanks for clarifying the fact that it had over 10 successful dives. Most of the videos I have seen failed to report that end. It explains why people trust this thing.
At the risk of sounding uncaring, for this accident to be called a 'disaster' effectively limits the use of that word as a good descriptor for true disasters (war, nature, terrorism, plague, etc). This is akin to a drunk driver killing him/herself and his/her passengers who chose to get in the car. Certainly 'disastrous' for the families, but not a disaster.
The passengers almost certainly knew they were in trouble. The last communication mentioned dropping two weights, which was a method used to help them get back to the surface.
Moral of the story: don't deal with shady unlicensed gamepad controlled submarines when going to the bottom of the ocean. With your point could've as well keep sitting in a cave and eat grass
Kind of disappointed to hear Stockton may have died thinking his sub was a success. He deserved to know how bad he messed up even if it was just for a second before it imploded.
Weren’t they communicating via text messaging? They may have noticed something wrong, but were unable to type it fast enough. RIP to all those lost. It always bothered me especially about the boy. 😢
2:38 - "Nothing in the messages to suggest that the passengers on board had any idea". The fact that the sub dropped 2 weights tells me they were trying to haul ass and resurface, could be wrong tho.
Passengers were apparently idiots after seeing that shoddy piece of crap, being told its ran from a game controller, theyd have to sit on a cramped floor and shit in a baggy, THEY STILL SIGNED WAIVERS of death and went.😅😂😅
Stockton (likely) knew but possibly kept the passengers unaware. Considering they were diving down faster than they should've, the submersible wasn't given any time to adjust to pressure changes but by the time Stockton realized they needed to stabilize their descent and start going back up, the vessel had already reached catastrophic failure.
But that's just want I'm inferring from the facts and speculations to this case. Also, in any diving situation, descending or ascending too quickly is deadly whether it's a vessel (catastrophic implosion) or a scuba diver (collapsed lungs/ pressure sickness).
The problem with me is that I can't curse even my worst enemy ! That's it ! May the departed soul of all those, who had perished in this tragic accident, rest in eternal peace ! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Stockton Rush ignorant to the warnings. Even had a sub that wasn't made properly. Maybe he didn't have the experience he made out. Shame about the others. He got what was coming to him
He had experience, but he decided to not only ignore common sense, safety, and regulations but actively flaunted the fact that he did. "Thinking outside of the box", "At some point safety just becomes a waste", "Everyone told me I can't do this, but I am anyway and I'm going to prove them wrong." A bunch of words to stroke his own ego and make him sound like he's super-intelligent for going against literally ALL of the "Don't do this, ever" rules when it comes to submersibles. He gambled every time he went down in the Titan. As an expert said with carbon fiber it's not going to fail after just one test dive, it's going to fail at some point afterwards as the repeated stresses build up until it finally fails. The question is just which dive. Stockton Rush ran headfirst straight into possible death over and over and he lost the gamble finally and took other people with him due to his hubris.
It could have been avoided if the driver hadn't put all his trust in a fifteen-dollar controller, and they would have been alive. Rest in peace except the captain he deserves it. ❤
Unbelievable that a country that "developped" doesn't make these tests mandatory before using the thing. In Germany you can't even sell a toaster that hasn't been checked for security.
@@Bungle2010 as I said, Germany for example. You can't commercially dive with an untested homemade submarine in Germany. I don't even think it's legal to dive with that thing as a hobby in Germany.
@@sayo1133 there is a video of it happening. Media is being deceptive. It has occurred at minimum once, and most likely more times than that, but it was blown out of proportion and now media is trying to make it seem like he said all the migrants were eating pets.
For a news channel you’ve not only brought this story incredibly late but it’s also misinformation and doesn’t align with statements already made by people who were in close contact at the time. During the white noise stage, news networks said it was a rescue mission where those in direct contact stated from the start point that there was distress messages and the following silence made it clear that it imploded…
There's a difference between knowing something is wrong and knowing that doom is imminent. The Titan had aborted dives several times before, so it's unlikely they had time to think this would be any different. But hey, if you want and the rest of the internet is determined to cling to what amounts to fear "corn"...go right ahead!
Legal reasons, I guess. I assume that the families of the victims want to see the assessment to see who was to blame for the deaths and whether any faults were disclosed prior to the victims signing off their journey (e.g. contracts, H&S checks...etc), especially when the passengers paid for it. If you pay for anything, there's always T&Cs attached.
@DDSizeBra ok it just seemed open and shut, especially since they determined it was the owner negligence. And the affected don't need money really in terms of a settlement
@CapeRides you're right in that the case is simple due to the owner's negligence, but to what extent? Was it Stockton that fired the real engineers who pointed out the flaws in the vehicle or OceanGate? Stockton was the owner of OceanGate, but I'm sure that there were other people with significant power in the company who were also to blame for the negligence - and they're still alive, therefore the families can still sue them
"I don't want an independent safety inspection because it would take too long and cost too much". Said by every failed project.
And said by many a big business
@@eadc888 boeing?... anybody?
what's your dp? looks familiar.
sounding a lot like Elon Musk at the moment
We have to make the yearly sacrifice to Poseidon.
Imagine how confused the iceberg was when it got five assists over 100 years later
Scumbag.
Only a Gamer can understand this humour 😂 Nice
@@hamzasaleem2550Anyone who reads English can understand this stolen "joke."
😂
@@HazelwithaZNo...You are giving people too much credit....People are stupid...
I still only feel bad for the kid who just went to make his dad happy.
no he make more the 700+aulta in 1 tyear.. imagin at age 18 u could being poor acting poor retire at age 18 ka never have a sing le job eevr and never have to look at a price tab u want it u got it...... math is hard for ppl smarter then me is odd in a odd sheldon
@@simlife445Are you having a stroke?
@@simlife445Are you drunk or just stupid?
@@simlife445 hey bro, should we call 911? Need help?
@@simlife445 my guy r u alright?
Now people will dive to see the Titanic and the Titan too.
Lol 😂
On a sub called ‘Tit’
Following this logic, the submarine's gonna be named "Tit"
wow .. you right tho. now to be able to see see 2 wrecks by people not paying attention. life learned lesson of greed and impatience
Just don't name subs Titan 2 or The Titans. 😅😅
"All good here" the famous last words of a man in complete denial! It's just tragic that he took four other people with him!
I want to know what they mean by British Pakistani business man does that mean hes British or Pakistani
@@richardkent2014 its both, dual nationality.
@@y_fforddYou can't be that can you your either British or you are not unless he was born in two places at once..
@@y_ffordd after ww2 many people should have been introduced as British coming here do you know 100 years ago the world was completely different from today and before ww2 the middle east is different from what the British empire was but do you know most of the world's Muslim population actually lived under us British 100 years ago if they where coming here from our colonies or British commonwealth nations after ww2 they should have been Introduced as British.
@@richardkent2014 he is holding both nationalities
wait... they were stuck in the sub for 27 hours once?! that would scare me to never try again.....
///and bolted in from the outside, so no way out without others undoing the bolts....:0
Where were all these facts prior to the fatal dive? And yet had the 'license' to operate or went unchecked? In what capacity did the company get those people to pay to dive? Seems to unfold like a year-long Scammer and Victim situation?
@@JuJu-fi8oo that's so true.. I guess they really kept all these under wraps. Cos if it was released, I'm sure that unfortunate day wouldn't have happened.
@@pikeflowedit’s not like you’d want to get out at that depth anyways so rather pointless to bring up.
Just did a road trip few months ago. On our way back it was approximately 18 hours with refueling and rest stops. I can't imagine being stuck 2 hours in this tin can!
an average of 9.076 failures per dive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And people paid to get on???????????????
I know right...madness 🙃
I can GUARANTEE YOU THE CEO *NEVER TOLD ANY OF THE PASSENGERS ABOUT ALL THE PREVIOUS FAILURES!!!!*
They signed consent forms for their own demise.
Maybe that's why the company didn't want an independent safety inspection: They knew they'd be closed down. If the bloody thing was a ride in a theme-park it would be closed immediately!
Paid hundreds of thousands at that smh
This is a perfect example of just because you can doesn’t mean you should
Yup
Entitled rich aholes
And they really couldn't anyways
In this case they couldn't even.
For optimists , the ocean is always half full.
They got wrecked. Gg
@@Bumbaclaat-lc4ndHEY it’s not something to joke about people died 😡 have respect would you please
@foundation6867 Why? Just because someone dies doing something stupid doesn't mean they Didn't infact die something stupid.
The wreckage is half assembled.
@@foundation6867We all have our freedom of speech so you can stfu
I woulda lost my mind being trapped in that oversized soda can for 27hrs
Not just that but you are stuck on that thing knowing you are stuck at the lower depths of the ocean
@swalehsuheil4524 not to mention even if you could come up you're bolted in that thing that's enough to scare me
Depends on what lady your in there with.
@Hauerization well I didn't take that into consideration that's a game changer
@@Hauerizationwell not everyone is so desperate like you...
The message that said that two weights were dropped clearly shows that they knew they were in trouble and most likely the passengers understood that as well.
The only reason for them to drop weights would be to ascend as quickly as possible because they understood that the pressure was to much for the vessel.
i remember watching one of the reportables stating that they descended @ almost 2x the normal rate, as if in free-falling, gotta wonder if the accelerated flexing of the pressure vessel didnt play a part in the demise?
pressure is pressure & I get that but a slower rate of descent means slower rate flex as wel, no?
Not necessarily. They don't quote the exact message, meaning it could be automatic data sent at the moment of the implosion
@@Toobzilla it was made out of carbon fibre, which was the first major engineering no, no, carbon fibres strength is built to go in a given direction, the whole thing should have been made out of titanium.
Unfortunately, when it comes to a pressure vessel failing , it fails catastrophically
Well said@@Toobzilla
How ruthless and terrible do you have to be to not only get people to sign up for this… but to encourage them to bring their kids and family too!… what a cruel human being
to think they were even cheaping out on their vessel, not even a maintenance check, heck even their controller was just a game controller
@@Donnie-ys7vr exactly, to know all that and then still get people to bring their kids on board is just a new level of heartlessness
If you think that's bad, wait until you hear about the fake vaccines.
Billionaire dude - they are not good people
Only fools signed and rode it.
You’d have to be outta your mind to crawl into that thing, get bolted in from the outside with no way out from the inside. No way. NO WAY..
I guess they don't have claustrophobia
The only reason the owner was there was because his hired pilot refused to go.
Don’t forget it had been controlled by a Bluetooth gaming remote for under $50. 😂
Even if you can get out at the depths the sub was at you’d be crushed opening anything probably safer that they can’t get out in case someone starts to panic.
I guess the thing is that even if you could open it from the inside, the pressure is so intense that far down, you’d never be able to push the door open much less survive that pressure to escape. The only time having that ability to open the door from the inside makes sense is if the craft reached the surface.
"All good here" bro jinxed it so hard 💀 0:12
All good here. God said wait second fk you !!!
I remember when I was 5.
@@zappyxp1575don't cut yourself with the edge you have
@@joeberger3441 go argue with mr nugget. Your IQ is too low for this conversation.
@@joeberger3441 shouldnt you being arguing with Mcnuggets? Your IQ is too low for this conversation bud.
You know what else ‘stifles innovation’ - dying, dying will stifle innovation 100% of the time.
Don't go to the bottom of the ocean in a Pringles can
Pringles can is more durable than this thing
1 Suicide and four murders...
Fact
Absolutely
Correct
True
While we're wasting away money sending millionaires to space, at least we're sending a few to bottom of the ocean too
Imagine 27 hours in that tin can and then going for another dive?! you must be mad.
I could not survived a minute
white people
Another group was stuck for 27 hours?????
From my understanding, they were at sea level and had complications in getting the sub in the platform where they usually put it. It was after they had finished a dive.
@@tomasgomez9925 but still though. So crazy.
I jumped out of my seat when it said *Batteries died* 💀
They should never have been allowed down there. Commercial trips down there should be banned. Its not a theme park.
Thank you!
You can ban lot of things, but you can't stop people from doing it, let alone self-loathing, narcissist billionaires.
Why can’t people leave the titanic wreck site the hell alone ??? The titanic wreck site is not a theme park it’s a wreck site and grave site where innocent human beings lost their lives diving companies offering trips to the titanic should be sanctioned and taken to federal court.
They'll do anything for money
It's not really about Tiranic, but their adrenaline rush for going so deep under the ocean. This CEO was an absolute idiot, and refused to accept that there are damn good reasons why people don't go so far deep down (space is safer). Or that his badly constructed submarine is not up for the task.
Titanic's wreck site is also a cemetery.
Many people don’t believe in spirituality so they think it’s a joke to play around with a grave site. Many mad souls there to mess with.
@@joneschilufya867Demons
They got the real Titanic experience
It was a piece of junk
Not even certified parts falling off
Yeah, complete rubbish
Сіз гейсіз 😂
They bought parts of regular retailers, it's insane
Their last message was probably "This was a stupid idea"
LOL.
im here for any iceberg jokes.... but ill settled for yours
probably their last thoughts
No, the last message was all the passengers saying FY to the CEO
Last message is "And i oop-..."
I think the minute of silence was only deserved for the poor teen trapped in that godforsaken sub
I really hope the passengers were unaware in their final moments and I hope they’re resting in peace. Prayers for their loved ones ❤
There are videos here on TH-cam explaining how fast the implosion happened in comparison to the human brain reaction time. In conclusion, not only was it a painless death, they didn’t have time to know it happened.
However, there’s always the argument that they knew what was inevitable for god knows how long (probably a few minutes before).
It could have been prevented by using a material that isn't weakened by compression and decompression.
The main hull was laminated layers glued together, every dive would have reduced its strength considerably, fine for things that float but not sink and surface over and over
Many pointed out that Carbon fiber: 1 - Only good when the force is pependicular so it beed a lot of layers cooked with resin, 2 - the 0.1% and 0.01% of fiber did not have link with resin is a large gap in quality, 3 - its good for resistance force inside, so its good for space vessels but not submersible, and 4 - It cannot recovered after suffered from compressions or extension unlike metals.
Any material will eventually fail at that pressure.
The real key is knowing at what point it's too dangerous to continue using it and binning it for a new one.
... A material that won't weaken doesn't exist in reality.
@@joshuahoman1184💯
He insisted on using carbon fiber instead of the material they had always used... Titanium. All bc it was cheaper. We already learned this with the Chernobyl fail, never use cheaper materials just bc it's more economic. It's also more dangerous.
When you have a fellow designer of the failed submersible, refusing to go down in it. Then questions must be asked.
Stockton Rush didn’t want to feel the pressure of an external panel of investigators: he had a choice to refuse.
He had no choice of rejecting the pressure of water at a depth of 3,300 meters.
Should've never been given the choice to refuse. Those external safety panels should face consequences
Poetic Justice right there
@@lonerebeI It's a private company, that had clear waivers that include life-threatening references including death. This doesn't justify the CEO's stupid decisions, but you have a choice to carry on and sign that waiver or bail.
@@med4511 How's the boot taste, bud?
@@Ealsante I'm not even from the US if that's what you're referring to lmao
"The US Coast Guard will assess what went wrong, and whether the accident could've been prevented"
I don't think it takes the Coast Guard to know whether or not this could've been prevented
I wouldn’t have gotten on that thing even if you paid me $1,000,000,000!!! Stockton Rush was a fool’s fool!
For a bill I’d risk it
I'd go but only with a bigger sub meant for deep sea exploration
"We thought outside the box to make this possible." Let's not think outside it because there's a good reason why there is one to begin with. It's stupid to have even thought this thing was as safe as possible in the first place.
Those same type of people thinking outside of the box voting for Trump this year. Sometimes don't need to be out of the box to work. Science is the key not fascist dictators.
"We thought outside the box to make this possible." said no good engineer ever
@@Thebt7 stupid. You know what the problem is with stupid people? They don’t know they’re stupid so it’s only painful to us intelligent people.
his outside the box thinking was to see how much under bare minimum he could get away with when making a submarine that can reach the titanic. if you ask me that's not thinking outside the box thats idiocy. his pilot refused to drive it and saw nothing wrong about that. its stupidity and the brazen attitude to think your status puts you at any even ground against the forces of nature. nature can and will get all of us regardless of money and status.
@@Thebt7bros trying to make a political statement 💀
Dropping 2 weights indicates that he knew something was wrong please insert logic into reporting
I’m not experienced with submersibles. Why would he drop 2 weights?
Dropping weights is a method of controlling buoyancy and ensuring the safe operation of the submersible. The Titan had 6 removable ballast weights. It dropped just 2 of them. If it hadn't of dropped those weights the Titan would've crashed into the seabed.
@@Prince_Icarus- In this case Titan was loaded with actual weights which helped it reach the bottom of the ocean, but also drops weights to control buoyancy and also to get back to the surface, the fact they dropped weights suddenly suggests they knew they were in trouble and had to get back to the surface. But by then it was too late and imploded instantaneously.
I was watching the hearing and one man who was apart of the recovery had said he knows where the failure occurred and it was the titanium ring that was glued in, the metal was completely sheared off, and if you look at the footage of them raising up the Titan wreckage you can actually spot one of the rings and it’s completely mangled, that was the failure point.
at that depth, they would have to release weights to stop the sub from descending any further and crash on the seabed. the sub is too small to let in water to use as extra weights to descend so they use external weights instead.
@@Scampi95 Absolute nonsense. Where did you get that from? As James Cameron would later say: "we understand from inside the community that they had dropped their ascent weights and were coming up, trying to manage an emergency."
Years later the titanic still binging up its K/D Ratio
LOL。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
The gift that keeps on giving
Titan:All good here
Titanic:First time?
I sincerly hope that this "public hearing" is being paid by Oceangate!!
Who 😂
Socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else.
I imagine they’ll do what every charlatan business person does and declare bankruptcy so they won’t pay a penny.
@@Cleefbag71no, corporatism. Capitalism would mean we're able to compete with corporations, and they weren't government enforced monopolies like fascist socialist zaibatsus.
What we have isn't anything like most systems we discuss.
No because they are bankrupt
What they should investigate is why they spent 100s of millions of dollars doing a rescue operation when it was obvious what happened and why they lied about it.
Oh for God's sake, it wasn't obvious and they did not lie to anyone. Even the sounds the navy heard where not 100% confirmed to be that of the implosion. Until they had visual confirmation, they had to continue the search instead of releasing premature statements based on secondary evidences like sounds or the time that had passed since communications were lost.
I hate this conspiratorial mind set that seeks to find a conspiracy in absolutely everything even when there is none.
Because they were rich
Because as the search and rescue team said; until you find the wreckage there's always a change, however small, that you're wrong. How much would it suck if you didn't take the effort and later discovered that the hull was intact, the noise was something else, and everyone had asphyxiated? Then there would always remain the fact that they might have been saved if you'd tried.
@@chilversc OK so every time someone goes missing at sea we should spend 100s of millions of dollars doing a search and rescue for the miniscule chance they are alive even though no one including the head of the coast guard believed they were?
@@shinestar2912 they do put on a reasonable search, but most people at sea go missing on the surface, and not almost 4km below the surface. That adds additional complications.
Can confirm, things weren't "All good there".
Overconfident with a new toy is all I can say.
My choice of word would be arrogance. He didn't give a single F about neither safety nor his crew.
They got greedy build the cheapest vessel and charge the most that's how it went wrong
@trinity_0123 That she what said.
Forgot to add greedy for money as well
enthusiastically arrogant and perhaps blinded by successor ambition
People were scared to challenge a bully who's talent didn't match his ego and people died because of it. But in saying that I wouldn't have been stupid enough to get in that crap
One of the victims was a teenager who was afraid and didn't want to go, but did it as a father's day gift to his father, who wanted him to come. kid is the only one I feel sorry for.
Especially since the sub experience 118 documented failures in 13 dives over two years. That is a staggering number. And those are only the documented ones which, seeing as the owner seems to be a piece of work, would likely only constitute a fraction of the actual numbers, or so I assume. Profoundly stupid to get on board that thing
@user-mi5tu2rq6r They do sign a waver before getting aboard. Meaning they were aware that the sub was in no way certified.
The billionaire's family is paying for this inquiry right?
yeah, including the search, it's bizarre that several governments randomly decided this is part of their job.
@@arkatubhey when someone else is paying why not get involved
@@arkatub money talks...
@@bobbyhill5067wallahu snackbar
@@BryceSchubert-d9pdon't see how that was necessary...
itll be crazy if in the future, some company will be like "lets build a sub that can go down to visit titan.."
And fools will gladly part with their money to try it!😅😂
Someone will though
We already have subs that can visit the titanic and now I guess the wreck of the titan.
The difference will be, in future, they won't be ignoring safety procedures to cut costs.
Stockton Rush was right to say submarines are generally safe. He just made an unsafe submarine on the cheap.
@@mrnice111 oop 🫢
Yeah, it could have been prevented…
He CHEATED on materials! Used carbon fiber in like an off-label application. Pressure vessel failure. The people are there. Pretty critical.
Carbon fibre works on planes because they don’t fly as high as the equivalent of the depth the Titan went. Its not safe for submarines let alone Titan
Last Words: What does this button do?
...DeeDee and Dexter...?
You touch this we all die :pavel
@@andrewndungu-ti4mn Old Space Shuttle Challenger joke, 1986
Chernobyl April 1986 ☢️💣
Sound like something Peter Griffin would say. 🤦🏽♂️
Imagine how loud the banging would have been as it slowly seperated each layer of glue, hitting each new layer at 2.500mph with hundreds of tons of force. Then getting faster and faster over several minutes until game over.
It didn't take several minutes. It took less than a second.
Stocky thought cutting corners was cutting edge.
Dropping weights is normal. For descent you need negative buoyancy. When you get close to target depth you start dropping ballast weights to become neutrally buoyant.
Interesting. Thank u for sharing.
Thanks for clarifying the fact that it had over 10 successful dives. Most of the videos I have seen failed to report that end. It explains why people trust this thing.
Watch out for your overly zealous ambitious friend who takes unnecessary risks for adventure and always wants you to come along.
Wow seriously ,them amount of failures and that ceo still went down ,unbelievable
At the risk of sounding uncaring, for this accident to be called a 'disaster' effectively limits the use of that word as a good descriptor for true disasters (war, nature, terrorism, plague, etc). This is akin to a drunk driver killing him/herself and his/her passengers who chose to get in the car. Certainly 'disastrous' for the families, but not a disaster.
No it's more akin to disaster.
That full scale model of the sub is probably safer to get in than the real thing was 🙄
Only a certified fool would get into either…
It was a CG model.
@@Draknfyre Still probably safer
obviously..
I lost it at “this is a full scale model of the Titan sub” 💀
i didnt understand
@@AymsPassionit's small vehicle
@@AymsPassion It's obviously CGI
Is this a bot comment?
@@corndogbin wdym
THE FRONT FELL OFF?!? You gotta be kidding me…
I'm fine watching documentaries of the sea from the comfort of my home. My TV doesn't cost millions
No chance of you vaporizing into fish food.
for a second there i was thinking how the hell they managed to get a submarine inside the studio.
Not doing an independent safety inspection shows Rush knew his vessel wasn’t safe to carry passengers.
What’s insane is the submarine was being controlled by a GAMING CONTROLLER
That controller was probably the _least_ sketchy part of the entire thing…
Well, the controller is industry standard and the military often uses it for drones and what not.
@@mediocreman6323 honestly tho
@@lacedsakeIn fairness, my Nintendo controller has worked since 1990.
@@briantneary2248 STICK DRIFT IS A THING!!!!!! And what if his controllers batteries died at the bottom!!!!??? Holy F!!!!
The passengers almost certainly knew they were in trouble. The last communication mentioned dropping two weights, which was a method used to help them get back to the surface.
Rush wanted to treat his submersible as if it were an amusement park ride.
I’m glad the others didn’t know anything was wrong imagine how scary that must feel
Richard Rush, appropriate name, took the craft down too fast!
Moral of the story: Leave the ocean alone. Humans aren't meant to be there. It's as simple as that.
Moral of the story: don't deal with shady unlicensed gamepad controlled submarines when going to the bottom of the ocean. With your point could've as well keep sitting in a cave and eat grass
@@ricedolphin7348 You're so stupid that there's no point in even arguing with you.
The previous issues with the submarine were a warning sign to what was to come
Kind of disappointed to hear Stockton may have died thinking his sub was a success. He deserved to know how bad he messed up even if it was just for a second before it imploded.
The ocean is the ultimate fuck around and find out champion.
You haven't heard about fake vaccines yet?
Final message : hello , my x box controller just died can you guys pull us up ?
Last message "Bit cramped in here innit? We're squashed in like sard-"
Cant spell Titanic without Titan.
You thought being stuck in an elevator was scary, think about being stuck 3500m below the ocean on a tin can with no lights for 27 hours
it did implode instantly
Ill come back to my comment in 83 years just to say its been 84 years
1:40 The front fell off.
Weren’t they communicating via text messaging? They may have noticed something wrong, but were unable to type it fast enough. RIP to all those lost. It always bothered me especially about the boy. 😢
honestly, of all places it's ironic that the incident happened at the titanic wreckage site...
If they dropped the weights, they knew something was up.
Exactly!!
2:38 - "Nothing in the messages to suggest that the passengers on board had any idea". The fact that the sub dropped 2 weights tells me they were trying to haul ass and resurface, could be wrong tho.
Passengers were apparently idiots after seeing that shoddy piece of crap, being told its ran from a game controller, theyd have to sit on a cramped floor and shit in a baggy, THEY STILL SIGNED WAIVERS of death and went.😅😂😅
You're probably wrong. They had 6 weights and dropped 2. They just slowed their descent because you don't want to dive into the ocean floor.
@@Pit1993x I hope I'm wrong for their sake.
Stockton (likely) knew but possibly kept the passengers unaware. Considering they were diving down faster than they should've, the submersible wasn't given any time to adjust to pressure changes but by the time Stockton realized they needed to stabilize their descent and start going back up, the vessel had already reached catastrophic failure.
But that's just want I'm inferring from the facts and speculations to this case.
Also, in any diving situation, descending or ascending too quickly is deadly whether it's a vessel (catastrophic implosion) or a scuba diver (collapsed lungs/ pressure sickness).
This news came out as my logitech gamepad drifted lmao.
May the departed soul of all those, who have perished in this tragic accident, rest in eternal peace !
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Agreed, but fish food now. The circle of life I guess.
Except for their murderer!
The problem with me is that I can't curse even my worst enemy ! That's it !
May the departed soul of all those, who had perished in this tragic accident, rest in eternal peace !
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
All except the culprit Stockton Rush
Friendly reminder that we’re all going to hell for the memes
Stockton Rush ignorant to the warnings. Even had a sub that wasn't made properly. Maybe he didn't have the experience he made out. Shame about the others. He got what was coming to him
He had experience, but he decided to not only ignore common sense, safety, and regulations but actively flaunted the fact that he did. "Thinking outside of the box", "At some point safety just becomes a waste", "Everyone told me I can't do this, but I am anyway and I'm going to prove them wrong." A bunch of words to stroke his own ego and make him sound like he's super-intelligent for going against literally ALL of the "Don't do this, ever" rules when it comes to submersibles. He gambled every time he went down in the Titan. As an expert said with carbon fiber it's not going to fail after just one test dive, it's going to fail at some point afterwards as the repeated stresses build up until it finally fails. The question is just which dive. Stockton Rush ran headfirst straight into possible death over and over and he lost the gamble finally and took other people with him due to his hubris.
It could have been avoided if the driver hadn't put all his trust in a fifteen-dollar controller, and they would have been alive. Rest in peace except the captain he deserves it. ❤
Oceangate CEO Stockton Rush is going to be the "Fall guy" and get crushed by the pressure and flood of allegations from former employees.
Unbelievable that a country that "developped" doesn't make these tests mandatory before using the thing. In Germany you can't even sell a toaster that hasn't been checked for security.
Which country would have?
@@Bungle2010 as I said, Germany for example. You can't commercially dive with an untested homemade submarine in Germany. I don't even think it's legal to dive with that thing as a hobby in Germany.
This incident right here is Murphy's Law in all it's glory.
0:03 "Springfield schools recieve 33 bomb threats" Bro tf did they do 💀
I'm sorry, WHAT WAS THAT FIRST HEADLINE??? 💀💀💀
thAT IS A REAL THING THE MAN SAID💀💀
@@sayo1133 there is a video of it happening. Media is being deceptive. It has occurred at minimum once, and most likely more times than that, but it was blown out of proportion and now media is trying to make it seem like he said all the migrants were eating pets.
'Your controller has disconnected'
i wasted two mins watching this.
I dont
The 118 failures was interesting to note.
@@fanatamon Also, the front fell off.
Titanic now sees a Titan , next may be Tita
I wonder how long before the movie comes out?
For a news channel you’ve not only brought this story incredibly late but it’s also misinformation and doesn’t align with statements already made by people who were in close contact at the time.
During the white noise stage, news networks said it was a rescue mission where those in direct contact stated from the start point that there was distress messages and the following silence made it clear that it imploded…
Dropping weights means they needed to ascend quicker. They must have known something was wrong.
There's a difference between knowing something is wrong and knowing that doom is imminent.
The Titan had aborted dives several times before, so it's unlikely they had time to think this would be any different.
But hey, if you want and the rest of the internet is determined to cling to what amounts to fear "corn"...go right ahead!
Failed 118 times with literally everything that happened and they still decided to go?
"I knew we should have bought an Xbox contro-"
Standing for a moment of silence at a public hearing of an event that created so many memes is hillarious.
Why need to investigate? Waste of resources really. We know it's the owners gross negligence
Legal reasons, I guess. I assume that the families of the victims want to see the assessment to see who was to blame for the deaths and whether any faults were disclosed prior to the victims signing off their journey (e.g. contracts, H&S checks...etc), especially when the passengers paid for it.
If you pay for anything, there's always T&Cs attached.
@DDSizeBra ok it just seemed open and shut, especially since they determined it was the owner negligence. And the affected don't need money really in terms of a settlement
Political reasons, they want to be seen in charge and pretend to do their job
Political reasons, they want to create sound bites and have a media circus around it.
@CapeRides you're right in that the case is simple due to the owner's negligence, but to what extent? Was it Stockton that fired the real engineers who pointed out the flaws in the vehicle or OceanGate?
Stockton was the owner of OceanGate, but I'm sure that there were other people with significant power in the company who were also to blame for the negligence - and they're still alive, therefore the families can still sue them
They felt no pain, they were already home...
And the boat with 800 immigrants said what? Because you certainly didn’t bother with that. It happened two days before.
You know they don't care about immigrants sadly
What boat is that? Noah's Ark? 🤨
@@phunanonAdriana
Because they care about wealthy CEOs and their stocks more than desperate refugees.
What do you mean revealed, they literally talked about it like the day after it imploded.