Imagine what processes this man has went through to be like a self educated Serum post doc. And he is now explaining and giving away so many precious advices. Big ups - Wish you the best Au5!
I know the experimenting part, but he also thinks about it before he makes it, like a designer, as he asks himself, what is a growl, or when he did the pipe thing, imagining a throat
@@ErvahNoir I use FL too. You might just have to do it a little differently. Maybe using Patcher would work best. You could also just route channels together but that would be extra complicated.
Jesus I'm gonna have to watch this multiple times just to absorb it. I'm reasonably decent with sound design, but it's a treat to watch a someone who's really gotten his mind all the way around a topic explaining his process.
Rewatching this a while later, I think it's important to state in 5:50 that the reason why the phaser is adding extra vocaly-ness is that the filtering curve it imparts on the sound kind of looks like a triple bell curve that, importantly, repeats itself every set frequency, a-la *formant* (google that). We make it static because we are not using the Phaser for its namesake purpose, instead we are using it as a makeshift *resonator* , with a very specific formanty character created by this filtering curve. Now knowing this, you can go forth and search for other ways to create this behavior outside of serum - you can use an EQ with a repeating curve, you can convolve the source sound with a very short and throaty sample, use an extremely short reverb with an EQ curve on the wet signal, using a parallel layer with a comb filter into a bandpass, using multiple parallel bandpasses or multiple parallel notches, use a modal resonator for maximum control, etcetcetc. The phaser is just the simplest first step :)
that frequency reshifting technique is super smart! it's like taking the sound to a new dimension and bringing it back-- it'll never be the same after that journey!
Not every good producer is a good teacher. But you nailed it!! And I love how you compress so much information in such a short video. Thanks Au5 , it really helps me a lot.
Au5 is too good. Anyway I may have already said, it but the vocal chop of "Follow You" is stuck with me, I love it. In fact, I remember that the splendid remixes of the EP (like the legendary Volant one), practically all used it unchanged.
these are really helping me, I've been naive and havnt wanted to look up tutorials in fear it would make me sound like other people. but in truth most of my original basses sound horrible. You explain these things in a way that makes me understand each knob and have made my transition from harmor to serum much better. legend, much love from Bass Capital
If you do not have Ableton for the grain delay to add high end grit, I used the Sin Fold distortion in Serum (not SerumFX) and set it to pre, high-passed around 88%. Have the frequency scale on the distortion to around 104 and put LFO1 to ~34. You can leave the resonance alone but I increased mine to 3.2 for a more guttural effect. Since it's a Sin Fold you don't need much drive so I set it to 11% and the mix to ~60%. This effect is subtle but it did the trick for me ;)
Really awesome tutorial Austin I think one thing you may wanna mess with from time to time is to put the growl in Melodyne and then formant shift it. I've tried a lot of formant shifters over the years for growl sounds and Melodyne's seemed the most genuine and high end to me for a lot of the growls. I know Zynaptiq has Morph (featured on your channel a lot) which can formant shift +/-12 and I had good results using it to further process my growls and give them a darker timbre/growl characteristic but Melodynes algorithm always seemed to have the highest fidelity. If you listen to one of the growls in Skrillex - Rock n Roll at (2:35 in the official upload) it sounds very low and guttural as if its either being pitch shifted or formant shifted I remember hearing that Sonny used Melodyne a lot back in the day (most notably for his vocal chops) but I've theorized that he might've used the formant shift in for a few of his especially dark sounding growls like the one in Rock n Roll It's a long shot for sure and chances are he never used the formant shift feature in Melodyne for growls but I'd definitely urge you to give it a try it as it can absolutely change the timbre of the growls and make them super low and aggressive sounding
I needed u 20 years ago man, making early dnb.. trying to figure out a reese and hoover.. the shit is magic nowadays. Beware of the power of the dark bass sounds.
Bro you should stream! Fellow person from your town recently getting into production the last few years. You're a legend. Not only for your music, that I didn't even know was you at the time when I found you , but your talent for teaching sound design is golden. Absolutely insane the amount of understanding you have simply from listening to how you word yourself in your explanations. Enough gassing. Appreciate your help always! I'd like to try to support you one day soon for that serum class.
I do not own Serum, I do not do sound design but I'm subscribed to your channel since long time cause I like the way you explain this stuff and even if i do not use it that's pretty instructional and many of these concepts can be used elsewhere. So yeah, kick ass!
YOOOOY Very informative and cool tutorial! I wish you could do a similar tutorial using Vital, as that is my preferred synthesizer of choice. I can't help but be amazed at how proficient you are with synth sound design. It's just routine to you, which tells me you've put in the hours to do this like x1000 times. Very cool. Also, that frequency analyzer looks clean af. Been a listener of your music since like 2011. One love 💜
so awesome man. I appreciate these videos so much. So much in fact that I will certainly purchase this master class when I am back from Thailand Although i use LOGIC oppose to Ableton, you still got my support. RESPECT!!!!
I just learned that I can connect serum's macro to Ableton's macro I also learnt that I can select all eq 8 postitions at once. oh and how to make the growl. thank you. you're an amazing teacher. What video should I watch if I want to learn how make growl hooks?
Nice implementation of the growl in serum. Sounds pretty much like the OG FM8, especially with the aliasing artifacts in the top end textures. Are 2 freq shifters necessary? I’m thinking 1 shifter post corpus and eq will do the same, inverting the ranges essentially cancels out the processing? Thanks for insights and sharing your perspective!
I explain in the video. 2 frequency shifters in opposing directions cancel out the processing for everything outside of what is constrained between the shifters, which is the point. Shifting only the corpus and eq while leaving the harmonic relationships of the pre-processed sound untouched.
Awesome tutorial, thanks! I'm considering the master class. I use serum alot so this might help me fine tune my skills a bit more. A few I'm still a bit stumped on are really being able to fully 'bake' serum fx into a wavetable where you can clearly hear the fx, and also just getting more comfortable sending samples to the noise osc and successfully resampling that along with whatever wavetable im working on, to make a new wavetable from that.
Awesome! Keep in mind that serum internally resamples at a sub-tonal frequency, about F-1, so all your effects that you resample with are going to sound much higher pitched when playing the wavetable back at tonal frequencies.
I wanna see a tutorial on a growl bass that mimics the sound of a dark, 4d-sounding black hole. Is it possible to replicate something like that by using these plugins?
I actually don't use Serum but a lot of the concepts you teach in this video I can apply to my synths and generators as well! TY for the tips and also for making Eden, my literal favorite song of all time.
hi au5, i guess there is a problem with the school of bass module 1 because i click on whichever course in module 1 it will take me to the home page......
Oh shit you’re the guy who made Snowblind!! I knew your name sounded familiar. No cap that was one of my absolute favorite tracks of the 2010s. I have so many memories to that song. Thank you for making it, seriously. I’ve gotten into music production myself and you’re a huge inspiration. Can’t wait to check out your tutorials more. Hope you have a good week!
Hey, love this video. would love to see your version of gain staging. my mixes are not loud even if i push limiters and i think it has to do with tonal balance and gain staging. i use 4.5 db like you but it doesnt seem to work... would love more insight on that
Hey there. Excellent video. Inhave so kany VSTs and am just trying to get down to a handful. Do you think Serum is the best out there in terms of flexibility?
Can u even recreate these smooth distorted dark mid basses from this song?: "Vesicle - We Are Lost" (2:17) Or the mid basses of this song?: "Mario M - Drop Of Sorrow" I tried for years to find out.
I just finished the serum masterclass, was amazing 👌
i started it a long time ago. Need to dive back in!
Hey Austin, ever think of returning to NCS?
Imagine what processes this man has went through to be like a self educated Serum post doc.
And he is now explaining and giving away so many precious advices. Big ups - Wish you the best Au5!
I know the experimenting part, but he also thinks about it before he makes it, like a designer, as he asks himself, what is a growl, or when he did the pipe thing, imagining a throat
He's like the Bob Ross of synthesis
there are no mistakes..
yes, exactly lol
As a fellow man who is also losing his hair, no he's not
He's like the jason stathom of synthesis
@@terrarian5166 Just Happy Accidents
This is the truest truth I've ever truthed.
That frequency shifting technique is freaking genius 👏
for real... blew my mind
funkmeister
I use FL studio and was immediately upset I can't do this in such an easy and flawless way
@@ErvahNoir I use FL too. You might just have to do it a little differently. Maybe using Patcher would work best. You could also just route channels together but that would be extra complicated.
I ain't a sound engineer/producer, but growls are my favorite technique in EDM. Watching it get created from scratch is so satisfying
thx for the shoutout 🧔🏻♂️👍🏻💚
Thanks for the inspiration bro!
AU5 does what every sound design instructor should do: explain the purpose of every step. Perfect.
I've literally never seen a better growl tutorial. This is why you are my favorite artist
Barely Alive: ouchie...
@@rammsteinrulz16 great tutorial as well don't get me wrong, seen it multiple times, but I still prefer this one
Jesus I'm gonna have to watch this multiple times just to absorb it. I'm reasonably decent with sound design, but it's a treat to watch a someone who's really gotten his mind all the way around a topic explaining his process.
This is the best growl tutorial I’ve ever seen hands down
Au5 is so cool he's wearing 2 hats at once
closed hat and openhat
@@Lex11778 lol
why did i read this as "...wearing 2 hi hats at once"
@@Lex11778 😂😂
I just wanna say thank you for blessing us with your insanely vast knowledge of music production
Even if you don't make growls, there are sooo many gems in this tutorial! Thank you so much for sharing!
Rewatching this a while later, I think it's important to state in 5:50 that the reason why the phaser is adding extra vocaly-ness is that the filtering curve it imparts on the sound kind of looks like a triple bell curve that, importantly, repeats itself every set frequency, a-la *formant* (google that). We make it static because we are not using the Phaser for its namesake purpose, instead we are using it as a makeshift *resonator* , with a very specific formanty character created by this filtering curve.
Now knowing this, you can go forth and search for other ways to create this behavior outside of serum - you can use an EQ with a repeating curve, you can convolve the source sound with a very short and throaty sample, use an extremely short reverb with an EQ curve on the wet signal, using a parallel layer with a comb filter into a bandpass, using multiple parallel bandpasses or multiple parallel notches, use a modal resonator for maximum control, etcetcetc. The phaser is just the simplest first step :)
that frequency reshifting technique is super smart! it's like taking the sound to a new dimension and bringing it back-- it'll never be the same after that journey!
Whoa, that alt trick to switch all sources modulation using alt is awesome, I never knew that! Amazing tutorial AU5!
The highend graindelay boost is gold
What crazy is when you did the skrillex growel at 18min20sec the spec analyzer looks like a skull. Thats bad ass man.
Whoever did the thumbnail for this one😆, awesome!
With the OG AF and Thicc wavetables😩
himself
Not every good producer is a good teacher. But you nailed it!! And I love how you compress so much information in such a short video. Thanks Au5 , it really helps me a lot.
Au5 is too good. Anyway I may have already said, it but the vocal chop of "Follow You" is stuck with me, I love it. In fact, I remember that the splendid remixes of the EP (like the legendary Volant one), practically all used it unchanged.
these are really helping me, I've been naive and havnt wanted to look up tutorials in fear it would make me sound like other people. but in truth most of my original basses sound horrible. You explain these things in a way that makes me understand each knob and have made my transition from harmor to serum much better. legend, much love from Bass Capital
Glad to hear it. Also emulating artists you vibe with is part of finding your own voice and will expedite the process substantially.
This is one of those videos you can watch 1000 times and learn something new from it every time
this is literaly the only good og/skrillex growl tutorial on youtube, i swear everyone gatekeeps the methods but this is amazing
That thumbnail tho 😁✅😎
If you do not have Ableton for the grain delay to add high end grit, I used the Sin Fold distortion in Serum (not SerumFX) and set it to pre, high-passed around 88%. Have the frequency scale on the distortion to around 104 and put LFO1 to ~34. You can leave the resonance alone but I increased mine to 3.2 for a more guttural effect. Since it's a Sin Fold you don't need much drive so I set it to 11% and the mix to ~60%. This effect is subtle but it did the trick for me ;)
God damn…he is so real
Love it. No fancy or expensive plugins, easy to customize and follow, just serum and raw ableton.
Really awesome tutorial Austin
I think one thing you may wanna mess with from time to time is to put the growl in Melodyne and then formant shift it. I've tried a lot of formant shifters over the years for growl sounds and Melodyne's seemed the most genuine and high end to me for a lot of the growls.
I know Zynaptiq has Morph (featured on your channel a lot) which can formant shift +/-12 and I had good results using it to further process my growls and give them a darker timbre/growl characteristic but Melodynes algorithm always seemed to have the highest fidelity.
If you listen to one of the growls in Skrillex - Rock n Roll at (2:35 in the official upload) it sounds very low and guttural as if its either being pitch shifted or formant shifted
I remember hearing that Sonny used Melodyne a lot back in the day (most notably for his vocal chops) but I've theorized that he might've used the formant shift in for a few of his especially dark sounding growls like the one in Rock n Roll
It's a long shot for sure and chances are he never used the formant shift feature in Melodyne for growls but I'd definitely urge you to give it a try it as it can absolutely change the timbre of the growls and make them super low and aggressive sounding
This is nifty! As someone who doesn't have/use Serum I really gotta try and remake this entire process native to Ableton
This is the best growl tutorial I've ever seen in my whole life
I needed u 20 years ago man, making early dnb.. trying to figure out a reese and hoover.. the shit is magic nowadays. Beware of the power of the dark bass sounds.
Hold command/control on draw mode to free form draw 20:20... Holding alt does crazy stuff too
Best growl sound design explanation I've ever seen
I just love how towards the end the audio visualizer kind off createsthe face of a thing that would fit this growl sound.
Tip: There exists a 3rd party version of Corpus by AAS called Objeq Delay. For that throaty sound, I found that the "Beam" mode works best.
Bro you should stream! Fellow person from your town recently getting into production the last few years. You're a legend. Not only for your music, that I didn't even know was you at the time when I found you , but your talent for teaching sound design is golden. Absolutely insane the amount of understanding you have simply from listening to how you word yourself in your explanations. Enough gassing. Appreciate your help always! I'd like to try to support you one day soon for that serum class.
I do not own Serum, I do not do sound design but I'm subscribed to your channel since long time cause I like the way you explain this stuff and even if i do not use it that's pretty instructional and many of these concepts can be used elsewhere. So yeah, kick ass!
Based comment
would be so sick if Steve Duda brought you onto the dev team for Serum 2...amazing tut as always.
agreed.
I would absolutely like to see a tutorial on how to make bases like in Eclipse by BTSM
this could be the most useful video I've ever watched, actually
Damn this is cool! I would love to see a tutorial on inharmonic basses!!
One of my favorite EDM artists.
Au5 is the guy I wish I could hire as a tutor. So informative, such great way of explaining things, and amazing results!
au5 and virtual riot tutorial episodes in one week!!!! les goo
goat of sound design
not the "weeeeeee" sound when the serum pic slid out of frame in the beginning 💀💀💀💀💀💀
A explanation of yours on topics like fm, am, pm, ring mod, etc. would be really helpful
The goat of sound design
the mind of a genius, big respect mate
This is making me seriously considering Serum.
20:54 is low-key the best growl I've ever heard
Swear to God this is the best growl tutorial ever made ❤️
I always wanted to know how Skrillex created the kill everybody bass. Not the one on the drop. But the intro bass sound in the beginning of the track.
YOOOOY
Very informative and cool tutorial! I wish you could do a similar tutorial using Vital, as that is my preferred synthesizer of choice. I can't help but be amazed at how proficient you are with synth sound design. It's just routine to you, which tells me you've put in the hours to do this like x1000 times. Very cool. Also, that frequency analyzer looks clean af. Been a listener of your music since like 2011. One love 💜
Does it really matter though? Most Serum stuff translates to Vital near flawlessly.
wow tthis guys experience is out of ordinary
Wooow I've been searching for this tutorial for 5 years and here it is thanks Austin 🙏
Au5 has the best sound design videos on TH-cam
so awesome man. I appreciate these videos so much.
So much in fact that I will certainly purchase this master class when I am back from Thailand
Although i use LOGIC oppose to Ableton, you still got my support.
RESPECT!!!!
this is my first time seeing your videos. your intro was so insane i knew i found the right video lol
amazing breakdown, love the detailed tips!
What spectrum analyzer is that?? So clean
I just learned that I can connect serum's macro to Ableton's macro I also learnt that I can select all eq 8 postitions at once. oh and how to make the growl. thank you. you're an amazing teacher. What video should I watch if I want to learn how make growl hooks?
AU5 should really try this in the synth plugin called Vital since he would still be able to use all his serum wavetables in Vital
Nice implementation of the growl in serum. Sounds pretty much like the OG FM8, especially with the aliasing artifacts in the top end textures. Are 2 freq shifters necessary? I’m thinking 1 shifter post corpus and eq will do the same, inverting the ranges essentially cancels out the processing? Thanks for insights and sharing your perspective!
I explain in the video. 2 frequency shifters in opposing directions cancel out the processing for everything outside of what is constrained between the shifters, which is the point. Shifting only the corpus and eq while leaving the harmonic relationships of the pre-processed sound untouched.
I think that this is the best serum tutorial ive probably ever seen?
Awesome tutorial, thanks!
I'm considering the master class. I use serum alot so this might help me fine tune my skills a bit more.
A few I'm still a bit stumped on are really being able to fully 'bake' serum fx into a wavetable where you can clearly hear the fx, and also just getting more comfortable sending samples to the noise osc and successfully resampling that along with whatever wavetable im working on, to make a new wavetable from that.
Awesome! Keep in mind that serum internally resamples at a sub-tonal frequency, about F-1, so all your effects that you resample with are going to sound much higher pitched when playing the wavetable back at tonal frequencies.
I've been looking after for this growl forever...
I lost my masterclass access and I’ve been trying to get some support for it but it’s been rough. Could use some help to recover it
Contact support@dawnation.net
Green growls!
I wanna see a tutorial on a growl bass that mimics the sound of a dark, 4d-sounding black hole. Is it possible to replicate something like that by using these plugins?
I actually don't use Serum but a lot of the concepts you teach in this video I can apply to my synths and generators as well! TY for the tips and also for making Eden, my literal favorite song of all time.
Thanks! Amazing tutorial, did you tried PIGMENTS? I think its have some huge potential as well
Why did you remove ‘’Myst’ it’s one of my favorites of yours
hi au5, i guess there is a problem with the school of bass module 1 because i click on whichever course in module 1 it will take me to the home page......
Oh shit you’re the guy who made Snowblind!! I knew your name sounded familiar. No cap that was one of my absolute favorite tracks of the 2010s. I have so many memories to that song. Thank you for making it, seriously. I’ve gotten into music production myself and you’re a huge inspiration. Can’t wait to check out your tutorials more. Hope you have a good week!
your intro smashes dude what
Maybe noise experiments how to get noise interact and form to diffrent harmonies
Au5 is the Bob Ross of EDM
relateable
I think Au5 deserved to be on Lex Fridman’s podcast tbh because IG Grimes and Kanye got a feature, can’t think of anyone more deserving
Insane he drops these nuggets for us!! Thank you so much!
Hey, love this video. would love to see your version of gain staging. my mixes are not loud even if i push limiters and i think it has to do with tonal balance and gain staging. i use 4.5 db like you but it doesnt seem to work... would love more insight on that
Watch Baphometrix’s clipping technique tutorials
@@au5music Watching now. perfect thank you!
Growls are the best part of electronic music; You simply cannot change my mind.
I seconded this, everytime it's played, it activates my... Brain?
Love your content Man!
this man is a genius
thank you so much man! I wish I could be as knowable with serum and ableton like u do xd.
Hey there. Excellent video. Inhave so kany VSTs and am just trying to get down to a handful. Do you think Serum is the best out there in terms of flexibility?
Yesss OG growll rawrr, let's go.! :))
It makes sense one of the sound design GOATs resembles a literal goat. Awesome tutorial. I can't wait until I can understand it.
amazing!
I'm based off more Skrillex and Barely Alive when i make my growls bass tbh
Man, that was Jedi Level!
Koszalin module style frequency shifting would save me a lot of time and money
rly nice growl and now lets start to watch serum masterclass :)
Don't even have Serum but I found your intro funny so I stayed 😆
I'm looking at the frequency shifter sandwich... what kind of wizardry is this man?
Au5 always killing it!! 🔥
Can u even recreate these smooth distorted dark mid basses from this song?: "Vesicle - We Are Lost" (2:17)
Or the mid basses of this song?: "Mario M - Drop Of Sorrow"
I tried for years to find out.
I've corrupted you in the most wholesome way possible. 🤠
indeed
Dude's a straight genius
THAT FREQ SHIFTER TRICK JUST BLEW MY FUCN MIND