Actually I'm inclined to wonder if she's already recruited him to her side... (She had her crow watching overhead meaning she was likely there somewhere too... What if she was the one who orchestrated Globgores escape and it wasn't actually Rhombulus acting on his own...) Then there is the big question: Why didn't Toffee kill Moon? He has no reason not to... Unless he really did only want his finger back and never really wanted to kill her to begin with... (And if he dated Eclipsa maybe he isn't so bad after all... ) I can see another possible twist that involves Toffee... What if he really did want to give peace a chance, only for Mina to come in and screwed it up becuase she's still all crazy gung ho for genocide against the monsters... We know she was alive and involved in that conflict, and was in support of going to war....
You know, I think Toffee might be half Demon at this point... (What makes me think this is how he revived with a gasp after getting his soul sucked out... The only other character we've seen do this is Tom, who is half demon.)
possibly but what would happen to the dimensional scissors will the magic be lost from it (Maybe Marco will go back to Earth and Magic will come back a few years later and well I guess they will be a thing now idk).
@@GZsam8O9 ^ i just heard that Milo's Murphy's Law was in the same universe as Phineas and Ferb and thought something like that for Svtfoe but for a different princess would be really nice if they don't mess it up
Well, Q777 [GG], I like many (if not all) Starco children including Aurora, though I'd be equally as pleased with Nova and her little brother Sol. P.S. Which Aurora are you talking about?
I don't think Moon got "cold feet" when blasting Toffee's finger off. I think she was taking into consideration that killing him would free Eclipsa. So she took a gamble and visibly shifted her aim from his heart to his finger on purpose. That if the spell could permanently destroy an immortal part of Toffee, it might break his army's morale. And this is probably part of the reason Toffee wanted his finger back so much. Aside from a sense of pride, that its return would be proof apparent that he is indestructible.
It's kinda hard for me to tell. Moon seemed shaken when she saw what the spell did to her arms, but maybe she didn't get cold feet after all. Though, she did seem intent on killing Toffee for killing her mother, so severing his finger is still surprising. Especially since it seems Eclipsa wasn't on her mind when she attempted to kill Toffee after she thought she lost Star forever. Only after Star and Ludo seemed to destroy Toffee was Moon like "Oh H*ll ECLIPSA"!
@Jule Knight Moon had every reason to kill Toffee. I think it spoke more to her not wanting to free Eclipsa than having a weak stomach in regards to killing him. If you want to call it cold feet in regards to fulfilling her bargain with Eclipsa, fine. But I don't think it was against Toffee. @P.E.R. At that point in that world's history, making a deal with Eclipsa was akin to making one with the devil. I think she saw a way out while accomplishing her primary goal (breaking the monster army), and took it.
@@unnamednewbie13 - That seems like a fair assessment. Just strange to me how a teen Moon had more composer than a adult Moon. Although, I suppose her wanting to kill Toffee for "losing" Star was probably a motherly instinct. Much like when Eclipsa stopped Moon from killing Meteora.
Oh wait i thought the 7 episodes were being counted as their own half of an episode and the 7th was the full 20 minutes for the finale. This actually makes me really happy
@@theartoonnerdologist411 There are 12 regular episodes left and then the finale, which we don't know yet if its gonna be a half hour or an hour, but it's still technically one episode
I don't feel like the Firstborn sending Moon to the Piefolk is much of a question because it was answered in that episode. Festivia and her descendants are Piefolk, so Moon was returned to the home of her people. I really don't think the Pie King was lying. Also, no love for Ludo I see. ;P I chose the Realm of Magic, but I really like the thought of Eclipsa's most powerful spell becoming the final boss. I think it would be a great way to still mention Seth and resolve Eclipsa's feelings about her mother (remember, EVERYTHING that is happening is Solara's fault, made only worse by Moon's actions as Queen), while continuing to draw comparisons between Eclipsa and Star and their mothers.
Seth may revive (or already has revived) Toffee. He may steal the newly recreated book of spells to do it. But hey that's just a theory, a FILM THEORY! Aaaaand cut
I think he’ll be revealed in the episode The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse. He’ll be at said place where it’s revealed that’s where he’s been hiding out at all this time
Emily Sanchez- Yeah, I'm disappointed that the show writers seemed to have dropped the Monster Arm and Marco thing. As they showed that was probably gonna be a bigger plot point down the line eventually.
@@zacharytan5916- No yeah, and perhaps that will some how tie back to the monster arm thing. Because Marco's wand was pretty sinister looking. Still though, the show brought that plot point up and seems to have just dropped it.
@@spectralspecs One explanation is that Star isn't Moon's real daughter. Maybe the magical high commision (or hell maybe time travelling Glossaryck) did another switcharoo and placed Star (an actual Butterfly baby) with Moon. Unlikely due to how closely she resembles both her parents but hey it's a shot in the dark.
There is one character you seem to be overlooking, someone that has the potential to be a final villain, someone that has the capacity to threaten our heroes, someone that had invariably shaped and controlled the very fates of all these characters from the very beginning; even long after she had died. The final villain of _Star vs. The Forces of Evil_ should be none other than Solaria the Monster-Carver: Eclipsa's own mother that wants nothing more than to destroy all of the Monsters from the Realm if not declare complete and total war against EVERY Realm for not being populated solely by Mewmans. That unnamed spell is not Eclipsa's unnamed spell: it is Solaria's Total Annihilation Spell: a spell so destructive and vile that Solaria sought to have its creation be completed by her daughter in order to fulfill her wish to kill all the Monsters. Mina Loveberry isn't the last of the Solarians: she's actually the _first_ of them personally tested on and created by Solaria with the desire for her to "live forever" should the procedure work. And it is because of her direct actions towards Monsters that had allowed for characters like Seth and Toffee to exist as major threats to the Kingdom of Mewni. But how can we get Solaria as a major threat to the modern day if she supposedly died? Simple, have Mina Loveberry use that gondola person to go back in time to the moment of Solaria's last stand and bring her back into the present day with a contingent of Solarians in order to attack the Kingdom of the present day: Solaria seeing how depraved her own daughter is by consorting with and having a child with a Monster, creating a system of government where Monsters still exist and have managed to get into positions of power and control alongside Mewmans. Solaria would take one look at this and begin to attack Mewni: declaring that Eclipsa is no longer considered her daughter and that the Mewmans were too impure to be called as such, labelling them as Monsters along with the Ponyheads and the Lucitors. This would lead to one of the single largest battles we have ever seen: where Eclipsa, Star, Moon, Marco, Tom, Ponyhead, Meteora, Globgor, Ludo, River, and everyone gets together to work to defeat Solaria and her army alá _Siege of Orgrimmar_ Raid from _World of Warcraft_ , where the heroes have to fight their way through Butterfly Castle itself to try and reach Solaria in order to take back the Wand from her, at which point it would fall near Meteora and she would finally reclaim it, transformimg into her Butterfly Form after having learnt how to Dip Down and with the help of Star defeat Solaria and put the final nail into the coffin of Solarias Regime: a Regime that had torn apart Mewni for hundreds of years, and at it's final end manage to unite all of Mewni both the Mewmans and the Monsters against the demented warmongering Queen. Eclipsa and Globgor would have their official wedding afterwards with Globgor being made the new King of Mewni, Moon, River and Star would finally begin to go on their way to become a family no longer truly defined by the name Butterfly and to reinvent who _they_ want to be known by, And the final scene shows the Beach from the picture as we close out on a rendition of the _Star vs. The Forces of Evil_ opening, but with a teenaged Meteora in-place of Star with the wand along with the cast of friends that she would make on her own adventures to become the next Queen of Mewni just like Star did in her adventure.
I think that Mina will stop being an antagonist soon by Star fighting her along with saying something along the lines of “Why would Solaria want you to kill her own child?”
Don't forget about the creepy stuff and secrets going on with Marco and his potential link to the Butterfly line and the forces of evil. I would be shocked if Marco were the final villain of the series, but I would also be sad if we don't learn more about the lore surrounding him and his family.
That's just what happened if someone touched the wand. Festivia got her marks from the wand so yeah, I still don't get it why do people still think they are related when it's really obvious
The final episode "Cleaved" has me thinking that Star is, in fact, the _unintentional true main antagonist,_ just because she destroyed all magic and committed genocide.
@SuperCool Guy McGee it just might, it's possible that mina might capture the knights and transform them into solarian soldiers, including the newly knighted marco. The process might awaken the tentacle arm, which in turn would take over marco and make him into the new villain.
Perhaps we see how Comet the chef ( Moon's mother) died, when Toffee comes back. We also had seen her tapestry and she have a connection to Moon and Toffee.
Ever since Glossaryk implied that the "reborning" of the Realm of Magic was a mistake, I got some Dark Souls vibes. In the sense that maybe the intention was to destroy all magic, giving rise to an age of men as opposed to keeping the age of magic
I am personally fine with Mina Loveberry being the final villain, because it's the person we LEAST expect to be the main villain, all while everyone expects Toffee to be the final villain, which I think is far too predictable.
Who do you think has the most impressive feat?:- Skywynne Butterfly- destroyed a dimension with her magic((causing her to fear her very own power)) Star Butterfly- creating a brand new magical dimension Meteora Butterfly- who learned to dip down at the age of infancy Eclipsa Butterfly- arguably made the most powerful spell in existence!!
Perhaps things will change. New groups of Mewmans and Monsters will rise to bring discord in all: Mina Loveberry with Sebastian, and Seth with Toffee. Their groups will go against Eclipsa and her wanting of unity. Eclipsa and her kingdom will kind of be in the middle... trying to re-assure that neither species need to be superior. Things will go wrong, and the only way to end this would be through... the Spell with No Name.
I think the magic realm, that realm makes you loose your mind and forget everything you are and since the first bourn was made from star you would think that it would have the same power of star. I think that a good sires closer would be the magic realm taking over everything and make you loose everything about yourself.
I think Mina. Her being Solarian is part of quite nasty legacy queens of Mewnii have especially Eclipsa since they were her mother's creation. Huge theme of this season is dealing with past and closing it up in present for better future. Mina and Magical high commotion (now that I think about it) are very powerful players that hold on so strongly to past, even without reasons they can name beyond "Eclipsa is evil 'cos we said so". It is Magical high commotion is on and on about since season 3. So with how thematically things are going the biggest sense would Be Mina, Magical high commotion or...perhaps going very out there Solaria The Monster Carver herself? She makes as much sense as Toffee with how much reference she got.
I completely agree. Mina holds so much significance to the mewnii’s terrible past and her being the villain makes sense considering where the show is right now.
@@andriecupcake Andrie Cupcake Right? I mean sure she is silly but same was with Miss Heinous before she discovered her legacy. Once shoemakers wanted you to take her seriously as threat they made you do so. Plus if trend of redemption holds they may wanna to give shotgun redemption to Mina too. After all according to book of spells Solaria's spells pretty much twisted and reworked Mina's mind right down to how her mind works and what it is capable of. I mean one of spells removed form Solarian warriors consciousness so they even can't feel bad comiting genocide of monsters. But I hope that if they do redemption it will go hand in hand with retribution.
I mean Eclipsa’s evil because Dark Magic; no one good writes a Killing Curse. But i like her and i’m on her side, it’s jut funny how naive people are; she’s not a good person, she’s even said so herself. Also that line is funny af “I didn’t name it the evil chapter, you did” like no shit Eclipsa that’s how that works; when Hitler wrote MeinCampf he wasn’t like “ACHT YES! Mein biography of Eeeevil is vinally complete” like what? No shit she doesn’t think of herself ad evil. There’s always one sure fire way to tell if someone is good or not; Evil people don’t worry about being Evil, Good people do, She doesn’t care one way or the other how she looks because, as she even said when telling star that she needs to learn more magic, she’s selfish and knows only how to help herself. She’s not wholly bad and she’s certainly trying to better which is why she’s one of my Favs, but she definitely ain’t a good guy.
@@skelitonking117 I have to agree that she's at least problematic but so was Solaria her mother. Evil can be defined in many ways. Eclipsa can be seen as evil because of her spells or because of her choosing monsters over her own kind. She can be seen as evil because she is in relationship with Globgor who to this day is known for eating Mewman's and he was pricne of darkness. But the top of it all is what matters most are actions/choices because they have consequences. It doesn't matter much what intentions Eclipsa has or even how she feels. In the end she did made spells that are manipulative, destructive and taking adventage. She did pick her own needs over her kingdom by running away instead of taking action just like she give monsters back their houses without caring what happened to Mewmans she took it back from. She may have good intentions and so on...but I feel she shouldn't have wand and crown. I don't want to know what would be going on if Star did not stay to help her around for months.
If this show ends. A meteora spinoff series in her teen days would be amazing. Like both monsters and mewmans will live in peace and most likely, she'll end up being friends with Marco jr. I would honestly would want that
Toffee's DEFINITELY the final villain! Look at the title of the last episode: Cleaved! The only time that word has ever been spoken in the show was at the end of Season 1 when Queen Moon and Glossaryck were talking about Star's wand, and they described it as "cleaved"!
Two things: One, I wonder if Mina got "mud sisters" from solaria. Two, I think it's funny Mina's first appearance ended in her being defeated by democracy and Star's drive to do the right thing. Then in cornonation we see Star's drive and democracy win the day again just before Mina's crow flies by. Kinda makes you think!
Mina's in the process of restarting the Solarian program. I believe she will kidnap people to turn into Solarian soldiers; one of whom will be Marco. When/If she does this to Marco, I believe his monster arm will reawaken causing him to rampage against Mina and everyone else. In order to stop this, Eclipsa may try to convince Star that they have to use the "spell with no name" on him, which Star won't want to do. This would make for a very dramatic series finale.
What if it's all of the villains? Toffee, Mina, the Unicorn, Seth (that we haven't seen yet), the deadly butterfly, in a big war against Star, Moon, Marco, Tom, Eclipsa, Globby, and the high commission? Like for the final episode?
i mean look at Marco : Monster arm , once was kinda possesed by Eclipsas spell in her chapter , had the wand , has moon cheeks almost as same as Celenas the shy ones , i mean we got to see that monster arm is still in Marco somehow , even in the book it is mentioned if they leave it as a cliffhanger it will be a waste of a good VIllain in my opinion.
Lol, what if rhombulus was the final villain? Releasing all those in the crystals in a final attempt to get rid of eclipsa, globgor and the mhc. Maybe cause he thinks they don't have what it takes to keep mewni safe like he does.
I don't know about final villains. But I know one thing that I want. I want Ludo to be the one to sacrifice himself to defeat him. He has literally been through more character growth than any other character on the show. I believe it will go down like this. The main bad guy will somehow lead to Dennis dying. I think it will most likely be the spell with no name. But from this Ludo will finally see what his place in the story is, this was his purpose. With one final goodbye he casts the only spell he knows. Levatato, he flies into the sun with the final villain, fully redeeming himself and ending of with the first villain being the true hero of the story.
"You don't belong here" could be a reference to Star and Moon not being part of the bloodline. They literally sent Moon back to her own people, where she's supposed to be.
And what if toffee comes back as a good guy fights seth while Mina fights others? I mean, Toffee was a bad guy by story, but... what would've happened if he got what he had wanted?
I just really hope they don't end up wasting this show's potential, because at the moment it kind of looks like that's whats going to happen. And that would be a shame, because I love this cartoon. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Theory time! I think Mina will show herself again by attacking during the episode of Cleaved, or before it, but she won't be the final boss. Maybe when she's beaten, she might be possessed by Toffee in the end, which will end Toffee, and most likely Mina as well. Either that, or Mina will realize that everyone loves Eclipsa, and she's just crazy.
I would love to see Solaria returning via Nina. Nina was designed to be queen dependent, and very close to Solaria. So I can see her stealing the wand in order to resurrect her or breaking a seal (each can be tied up to the armor) in order to bring Solaria, for her to bring the old rule. I think it would not be far fatched to state that due the closeness of Nina to the queen, she would know that Mewmans, or some of them, can use magic and maybe it can be a backup plan constructed by Solaria herself, for if the monsters were winning or an "incompetent" queen would come in times of danger. I feel it would be a great opportunity for character development for Eclipsa and Star. The villain order of the show will be continuous (monster, half and half, mewman). The people might see that the queens are not gods and maybe will develop some backbone and will start thinking on their own. etc.
I am glad that I am not the only one who believes that Solaria is a candidate for the ultimate evil even in death. She hosted the bloodiest reign Mewni has ever seen, she is the Caligula of Star vs. And with the return of the book of spells, and Skywynne's resurrection spell, it makes it more likely right now.
Darb 0517 100% agree with you. Having a character like her can bring more information about Seth without introducing him. Will bring the main conflict of the series to be a physical one (important for a kid show). Maybe show the good side of Solaria each is her love for Eclipsa, which is stated in the book but in the series she looks like a pure evil.
@@maximmorshin7446 I also recognize that the book of spells is not the only option, as someone pointed out, tom can resurrect the dead, but at the cost them being a shambling, rotting corpse. Solaria's appearence would reflect her malevolent nature. What is worse...is that eclipsa's spell would be the weapon necessary to eradicate a powerful immortal undead queen. It is horrifying to ponder.
Maybe they’ll do the same thing that adventure time did where they hype up one villain in the final season but they also hype up a bigger villain through the whole series and the big bad guy shows up
I hope it's a possessed Marco, considering that he's been building up that he's leaving Mewiny, was part monster, prone to possession via Eclipsa's chapter, had those odd dreams in previous seasons, had contact with mewman magic, and in general; is one of the most badass characters without powers. It would be an interesting fight to see play out if Star had to fight Marco externally while Marco fought him internally.
why the fuck would solaria be the villain? that doesn't make any sense,she wouldn't kill her own daughter,if mina does bring her back though,mina needs a kick in the ass from her
I think that Toffee and Marco will be the final Villains. Btw I think that Toffe is Seth and that they are just splited to 2 immortals becuase A. We don't know about all of Toffee's abillites so maybe he splited to 2 immortals or maybe Glossaryck did it. B. When Toffee "dies" there's always that peace of metal that is left there which other immortals don't have and I still don't understand some things about it: 1st: Is this a part of Toffee's body or is it not? Cuase if it's not then where does that come from? 2nd: If it is a part of he's body then where is it when Marco punched Toffee? The whole thing with that metal is really weird C. Toffe said "You can call me Toffee" (could mean that it's not his true name) and even when Moon hears Toffee's name for the first time she asks "Toffee?, what kind of a name is that?" I don't know what other people will think about my theory but I bellive it to be true. (It's also explains why Moon doesn't think about Seth as a thread but she does think Toffee is one and why Seth isn't mentioned in her chapter - they're the same person. It could also be that Toffee is trying to get his 2nd half back which is crystalized or captured somewhere).
@Shantazia Hill exactly...and just like how svtfoe healed my heart from the end of gf, I know something else will take its place again someday and then we'll be on another roller coaster of feelings.
WE WANT TOFFEE!
Me too!😣😣
DRAMAAAAAAAAAA
The Roundtable yesssssss
The Roundtable
YEAH!!
or seth maybe
I wonder if Rhombulus will break out of prison(or Mina helping him escape) and join forces with her?
There's going to be another mewni war
It's possible but I have a hard time seeing him as a serious villain. He's just too...childish sometimes
Waheed Abdullah Glossaryck
Actually I'm inclined to wonder if she's already recruited him to her side... (She had her crow watching overhead meaning she was likely there somewhere too... What if she was the one who orchestrated Globgores escape and it wasn't actually Rhombulus acting on his own...)
Then there is the big question: Why didn't Toffee kill Moon? He has no reason not to... Unless he really did only want his finger back and never really wanted to kill her to begin with... (And if he dated Eclipsa maybe he isn't so bad after all... )
I can see another possible twist that involves Toffee... What if he really did want to give peace a chance, only for Mina to come in and screwed it up becuase she's still all crazy gung ho for genocide against the monsters... We know she was alive and involved in that conflict, and was in support of going to war....
Rhombulus is stupid
Plot twist the final villan in svtfoe is bobipsa the baby eater
lol that would be great.
Lol they need to hide meteora
Daniel22 they spelled Bobipsa horribly wrong lol
@@luvskg a former queen that loved the taste of children but can you blame her baby meat just tastes so rare
Jakob Lent she isn’t a queen and I don’t even wanna ask ;-;
Imagine... Toffee possessing Mina!
Unlikely, I just miss him and won’t be satisfied unless he comes back.
You know, I think Toffee might be half Demon at this point... (What makes me think this is how he revived with a gasp after getting his soul sucked out... The only other character we've seen do this is Tom, who is half demon.)
Perhaps the realm of magic is the villain, and they have to set the spell with no name free to destroy it?
possibly but what would happen to the dimensional scissors will the magic be lost from it (Maybe Marco will go back to Earth and Magic will come back a few years later and well I guess they will be a thing now idk).
The realm of magic looks pretty pretentious to me.
I am from the future and I am here to tell you
Congratulations
luckily you were somewhat right
What if there is no final villain, what if they show us these potentional final villains just to keep us busy?
nah, chekhov’s gun my friend
Na.. you can’t make the show interesting to watch without a villain. It creates conflict.
Or they secretly producing Star vs Forces of evil the movie for final.
It's called STAR VS THE FORCES OF EVIL for a reason.
Chekhov's Gun?
How are we gonna live without star?
We won’t 😭
Eclipse Midnight
Maybe I'll rewatch the show until I feel ready to move on. 😭
*Suicide deaths has raised by 100%*
We said the same about gravity falls but i am sure it will be hard
*pulls out a gun* you're right we won't. 🔫. _ .
We will not live
A world without star vs the forces of evil lets just hope that theres a next generation to the story
I hope we'll get Aurora vs the forces of Evil in the future :))
*btw Aurora is my fav fan-made Starco child*
Like Phineas and Ferb and Milo Murphy’s Law
@@GZsam8O9 ^ i just heard that Milo's Murphy's Law was in the same universe as Phineas and Ferb and thought something like that for Svtfoe but for a different princess would be really nice if they don't mess it up
Just imagine star vs the forces of evil 2 show🤩
Well, Q777 [GG], I like many (if not all) Starco children including Aurora, though I'd be equally as pleased with Nova and her little brother Sol.
P.S. Which Aurora are you talking about?
I don't think Moon got "cold feet" when blasting Toffee's finger off. I think she was taking into consideration that killing him would free Eclipsa. So she took a gamble and visibly shifted her aim from his heart to his finger on purpose. That if the spell could permanently destroy an immortal part of Toffee, it might break his army's morale. And this is probably part of the reason Toffee wanted his finger back so much. Aside from a sense of pride, that its return would be proof apparent that he is indestructible.
It's kinda hard for me to tell. Moon seemed shaken when she saw what the spell did to her arms, but maybe she didn't get cold feet after all. Though, she did seem intent on killing Toffee for killing her mother, so severing his finger is still surprising. Especially since it seems Eclipsa wasn't on her mind when she attempted to kill Toffee after she thought she lost Star forever. Only after Star and Ludo seemed to destroy Toffee was Moon like "Oh H*ll ECLIPSA"!
That's getting cold feet dude
@Jule Knight Moon had every reason to kill Toffee. I think it spoke more to her not wanting to free Eclipsa than having a weak stomach in regards to killing him. If you want to call it cold feet in regards to fulfilling her bargain with Eclipsa, fine. But I don't think it was against Toffee.
@P.E.R. At that point in that world's history, making a deal with Eclipsa was akin to making one with the devil. I think she saw a way out while accomplishing her primary goal (breaking the monster army), and took it.
@@unnamednewbie13 - That seems like a fair assessment. Just strange to me how a teen Moon had more composer than a adult Moon. Although, I suppose her wanting to kill Toffee for "losing" Star was probably a motherly instinct. Much like when Eclipsa stopped Moon from killing Meteora.
Yeah, I was talking cold feet about the deal
Technically, we have 13 episodes left, so who knows... :/
Marissa Dawes yeah I usually look at the show as 11-minute episodes instead of 2 11-minute segments
Oh wait i thought the 7 episodes were being counted as their own half of an episode and the 7th was the full 20 minutes for the finale. This actually makes me really happy
Wouldn’t that be fourteen
@@theartoonnerdologist411 There are 12 regular episodes left and then the finale, which we don't know yet if its gonna be a half hour or an hour, but it's still technically one episode
@@Jarino507 lol
I don't feel like the Firstborn sending Moon to the Piefolk is much of a question because it was answered in that episode. Festivia and her descendants are Piefolk, so Moon was returned to the home of her people. I really don't think the Pie King was lying.
Also, no love for Ludo I see. ;P I chose the Realm of Magic, but I really like the thought of Eclipsa's most powerful spell becoming the final boss. I think it would be a great way to still mention Seth and resolve Eclipsa's feelings about her mother (remember, EVERYTHING that is happening is Solara's fault, made only worse by Moon's actions as Queen), while continuing to draw comparisons between Eclipsa and Star and their mothers.
Seth may revive (or already has revived) Toffee. He may steal the newly recreated book of spells to do it.
But hey that's just a theory, a FILM THEORY! Aaaaand cut
I am waiting for Seth because he was referenced quite a bit in the book of spells
It's way too late to establish a brand new villain
I think he’ll be revealed in the episode The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse. He’ll be at said place where it’s revealed that’s where he’s been hiding out at all this time
me too! but there is a possibility that he might not be a villian. at least not anymore.
Yeah
Seth is Toffee's dad. He died becuz of magic and that is why Toffee grew to hate magic, and the thought become stronger when meteora came.
I would have always taught that MARCO would have been the antagonist
Emily Sanchez you mean evil Marco lol
Emily Sanchez- Yeah, I'm disappointed that the show writers seemed to have dropped the Monster Arm and Marco thing. As they showed that was probably gonna be a bigger plot point down the line eventually.
@@MargaretRodriguez9GenY We still need an explanation about marco's glowing cheek marks tho.. so...
@@zacharytan5916- No yeah, and perhaps that will some how tie back to the monster arm thing. Because Marco's wand was pretty sinister looking. Still though, the show brought that plot point up and seems to have just dropped it.
@@MargaretRodriguez9GenY And also the dream sequence where he's in a locker with a suit on. What was that about?
7:11 because they are not real Butterflies, they are pie folk. That's also why they sent Moon to the pie folk.
Andrea Valle the why not Star?
@@spectralspecs can star bake a pie?
@@spectralspecs One explanation is that Star isn't Moon's real daughter. Maybe the magical high commision (or hell maybe time travelling Glossaryck) did another switcharoo and placed Star (an actual Butterfly baby) with Moon. Unlikely due to how closely she resembles both her parents but hey it's a shot in the dark.
There is one character you seem to be overlooking, someone that has the potential to be a final villain, someone that has the capacity to threaten our heroes, someone that had invariably shaped and controlled the very fates of all these characters from the very beginning; even long after she had died.
The final villain of _Star vs. The Forces of Evil_ should be none other than Solaria the Monster-Carver: Eclipsa's own mother that wants nothing more than to destroy all of the Monsters from the Realm if not declare complete and total war against EVERY Realm for not being populated solely by Mewmans. That unnamed spell is not Eclipsa's unnamed spell: it is Solaria's Total Annihilation Spell: a spell so destructive and vile that Solaria sought to have its creation be completed by her daughter in order to fulfill her wish to kill all the Monsters. Mina Loveberry isn't the last of the Solarians: she's actually the _first_ of them personally tested on and created by Solaria with the desire for her to "live forever" should the procedure work. And it is because of her direct actions towards Monsters that had allowed for characters like Seth and Toffee to exist as major threats to the Kingdom of Mewni. But how can we get Solaria as a major threat to the modern day if she supposedly died? Simple, have Mina Loveberry use that gondola person to go back in time to the moment of Solaria's last stand and bring her back into the present day with a contingent of Solarians in order to attack the Kingdom of the present day: Solaria seeing how depraved her own daughter is by consorting with and having a child with a Monster, creating a system of government where Monsters still exist and have managed to get into positions of power and control alongside Mewmans. Solaria would take one look at this and begin to attack Mewni: declaring that Eclipsa is no longer considered her daughter and that the Mewmans were too impure to be called as such, labelling them as Monsters along with the Ponyheads and the Lucitors. This would lead to one of the single largest battles we have ever seen: where Eclipsa, Star, Moon, Marco, Tom, Ponyhead, Meteora, Globgor, Ludo, River, and everyone gets together to work to defeat Solaria and her army alá _Siege of Orgrimmar_ Raid from _World of Warcraft_ , where the heroes have to fight their way through Butterfly Castle itself to try and reach Solaria in order to take back the Wand from her, at which point it would fall near Meteora and she would finally reclaim it, transformimg into her Butterfly Form after having learnt how to Dip Down and with the help of Star defeat Solaria and put the final nail into the coffin of Solarias Regime: a Regime that had torn apart Mewni for hundreds of years, and at it's final end manage to unite all of Mewni both the Mewmans and the Monsters against the demented warmongering Queen. Eclipsa and Globgor would have their official wedding afterwards with Globgor being made the new King of Mewni, Moon, River and Star would finally begin to go on their way to become a family no longer truly defined by the name Butterfly and to reinvent who _they_ want to be known by, And the final scene shows the Beach from the picture as we close out on a rendition of the _Star vs. The Forces of Evil_ opening, but with a teenaged Meteora in-place of Star with the wand along with the cast of friends that she would make on her own adventures to become the next Queen of Mewni just like Star did in her adventure.
I think that Mina will stop being an antagonist soon by Star fighting her along with saying something along the lines of
“Why would Solaria want you to kill her own child?”
Don't forget about the creepy stuff and secrets going on with Marco and his potential link to the Butterfly line and the forces of evil. I would be shocked if Marco were the final villain of the series, but I would also be sad if we don't learn more about the lore surrounding him and his family.
Don't forget about monster arm.
That's just what happened if someone touched the wand. Festivia got her marks from the wand so yeah, I still don't get it why do people still think they are related when it's really obvious
Lowkey kind of hoping he’s the final antagonist!
This is dumb.. but what if Marco IS like related to Seth or something .. somehow.. think about that
@SuperCool Guy McGee I agree that was just a brain fart
The final episode "Cleaved" has me thinking that Star is, in fact, the _unintentional true main antagonist,_ just because she destroyed all magic and committed genocide.
Marcos tentacle arm is going to be the final villain
@SuperCool Guy McGee it just might, it's possible that mina might capture the knights and transform them into solarian soldiers, including the newly knighted marco. The process might awaken the tentacle arm, which in turn would take over marco and make him into the new villain.
@@VvissiaA wow I would be shocked!!!
@SuperCool Guy McGee same
Vissia not a bad theory Could also make it to instead of just the arm it’s the entire body to be far more powerful
@@invictus6176 That. Would. Be. Awesome.
Mina is too obvious a choice. In truth Seth will be the final boss.
Wrong mina is the true final villain!
mina's the villain
What about ludo
I want to see Seth so bad
I think that a monster as the final antagonist AGAIN in a season where they try to bring monster-mewman equality to mewni will not be a good idea
The show is almost over
*Sniff*
OoOoOhh NoOOoO
Perhaps we see how Comet the chef ( Moon's mother) died, when Toffee comes back. We also had seen her tapestry and she have a connection to Moon and Toffee.
Ever since Glossaryk implied that the "reborning" of the Realm of Magic was a mistake, I got some Dark Souls vibes. In the sense that maybe the intention was to destroy all magic, giving rise to an age of men as opposed to keeping the age of magic
I would like to see Mina forcing Tom to ressourecet Queen Solaria
Yes
What if Moon and River move to earth so they can finally escape their past as being rulers to start over
"You can't have enough lizard daddies"
- awestruckvox
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"You can't have enough Lizard Daddies."- Awestruckvox 2019
"You can't have enough lizard daddies" -Awestruck Vox, 2019
I am personally fine with Mina Loveberry being the final villain, because it's the person we LEAST expect to be the main villain, all while everyone expects Toffee to be the final villain, which I think is far too predictable.
You want a potential surprise vilain we know since season 1 : Janna !
She is disturbing.
Who do you think has the most impressive feat?:-
Skywynne Butterfly- destroyed a dimension with her magic((causing her to fear her very own power))
Star Butterfly- creating a brand new magical dimension
Meteora Butterfly- who learned to dip down at the age of infancy
Eclipsa Butterfly- arguably made the most powerful spell in existence!!
Yeah mina ends up being quite Intimidating.
When she has an un destructible army
Perhaps things will change.
New groups of Mewmans and Monsters will rise to bring discord in all: Mina Loveberry with Sebastian, and Seth with Toffee. Their groups will go against Eclipsa and her wanting of unity. Eclipsa and her kingdom will kind of be in the middle... trying to re-assure that neither species need to be superior. Things will go wrong, and the only way to end this would be through... the Spell with No Name.
Horrible Ending So Un-Disney
I think the magic realm, that realm makes you loose your mind and forget everything you are and since the first bourn was made from star you would think that it would have the same power of star. I think that a good sires closer would be the magic realm taking over everything and make you loose everything about yourself.
Perfect final boss:
The spell with no name.
Fused with Toffee.
“You can’t have enough lizard daddies”
I think Mina. Her being Solarian is part of quite nasty legacy queens of Mewnii have especially Eclipsa since they were her mother's creation. Huge theme of this season is dealing with past and closing it up in present for better future. Mina and Magical high commotion (now that I think about it) are very powerful players that hold on so strongly to past, even without reasons they can name beyond "Eclipsa is evil 'cos we said so". It is Magical high commotion is on and on about since season 3.
So with how thematically things are going the biggest sense would Be Mina, Magical high commotion or...perhaps going very out there Solaria The Monster Carver herself? She makes as much sense as Toffee with how much reference she got.
I completely agree. Mina holds so much significance to the mewnii’s terrible past and her being the villain makes sense considering where the show is right now.
@@andriecupcake Andrie Cupcake Right? I mean sure she is silly but same was with Miss Heinous before she discovered her legacy. Once shoemakers wanted you to take her seriously as threat they made you do so. Plus if trend of redemption holds they may wanna to give shotgun redemption to Mina too.
After all according to book of spells Solaria's spells pretty much twisted and reworked Mina's mind right down to how her mind works and what it is capable of. I mean one of spells removed form Solarian warriors consciousness so they even can't feel bad comiting genocide of monsters. But I hope that if they do redemption it will go hand in hand with retribution.
I mean Eclipsa’s evil because Dark Magic; no one good writes a Killing Curse. But i like her and i’m on her side, it’s jut funny how naive people are; she’s not a good person, she’s even said so herself. Also that line is funny af “I didn’t name it the evil chapter, you did” like no shit Eclipsa that’s how that works; when Hitler wrote MeinCampf he wasn’t like “ACHT YES! Mein biography of Eeeevil is vinally complete” like what? No shit she doesn’t think of herself ad evil. There’s always one sure fire way to tell if someone is good or not; Evil people don’t worry about being Evil, Good people do, She doesn’t care one way or the other how she looks because, as she even said when telling star that she needs to learn more magic, she’s selfish and knows only how to help herself. She’s not wholly bad and she’s certainly trying to better which is why she’s one of my Favs, but she definitely ain’t a good guy.
@@skelitonking117 I have to agree that she's at least problematic but so was Solaria her mother. Evil can be defined in many ways. Eclipsa can be seen as evil because of her spells or because of her choosing monsters over her own kind. She can be seen as evil because she is in relationship with Globgor who to this day is known for eating Mewman's and he was pricne of darkness.
But the top of it all is what matters most are actions/choices because they have consequences. It doesn't matter much what intentions Eclipsa has or even how she feels. In the end she did made spells that are manipulative, destructive and taking adventage. She did pick her own needs over her kingdom by running away instead of taking action just like she give monsters back their houses without caring what happened to Mewmans she took it back from. She may have good intentions and so on...but I feel she shouldn't have wand and crown. I don't want to know what would be going on if Star did not stay to help her around for months.
Yes
If this show ends. A meteora spinoff series in her teen days would be amazing. Like both monsters and mewmans will live in peace and most likely, she'll end up being friends with Marco jr.
I would honestly would want that
Um. YES PLEASE
Toffee's DEFINITELY the final villain! Look at the title of the last episode: Cleaved! The only time that word has ever been spoken in the show was at the end of Season 1 when Queen Moon and Glossaryck were talking about Star's wand, and they described it as "cleaved"!
Someone didn't see "Curse of the Blood Moon".
Two things:
One, I wonder if Mina got "mud sisters" from solaria.
Two, I think it's funny Mina's first appearance ended in her being defeated by democracy and Star's drive to do the right thing. Then in cornonation we see Star's drive and democracy win the day again just before Mina's crow flies by.
Kinda makes you think!
I disagree that moon got cold feet by shooting toffees finger instead of his heart... it was calculated, so Eclipsa wouldn't be set free!
Watch the final villain be the evil twin on Robulous’s nipple
Hope there is a new carton and its name is starco vs the forces of meteora
My theory. Marco will use the wand and nameless spell to stop the immortal Mina and become corrupted. Turning him into the final evil
I still want to see monster arm return and Marco turn evil. However at this point I don't think that going to happen. 😢
Mina's in the process of restarting the Solarian program. I believe she will kidnap people to turn into Solarian soldiers; one of whom will be Marco. When/If she does this to Marco, I believe his monster arm will reawaken causing him to rampage against Mina and everyone else. In order to stop this, Eclipsa may try to convince Star that they have to use the "spell with no name" on him, which Star won't want to do. This would make for a very dramatic series finale.
Sabaston the crow is possessed. The final villian will be the crow
I feel like she will have a solarian army with animals including tjw crow
@@squirtletheturtle5622 Yes. A possessed super crow exactly.
What if it's all of the villains? Toffee, Mina, the Unicorn, Seth (that we haven't seen yet), the deadly butterfly, in a big war against Star, Moon, Marco, Tom, Eclipsa, Globby, and the high commission? Like for the final episode?
i mean look at Marco : Monster arm , once was kinda possesed by Eclipsas spell in her chapter , had the wand , has moon cheeks almost as same as Celenas the shy ones , i mean we got to see that monster arm is still in Marco somehow , even in the book it is mentioned if they leave it as a cliffhanger it will be a waste of a good VIllain in my opinion.
Would be in s5 or 6 proably if the show didnt end at s4
There are so many plots and threads that leave so many questions
They HAVE to work altogether somehow and come together right?
Tbh I wanna see Eclipsa in her Mewberty form but I don’t see that happening :/
Will the troll teacher return to normal if magic ceases to exist?
I thin Glossaryk will be the final villain. All his actions are questionable and he did bring the wand and unicorns to Mewni in the first place.
Yeah its all his fault the all this happened and i doubt he would want his life to end.
Lol, what if rhombulus was the final villain? Releasing all those in the crystals in a final attempt to get rid of eclipsa, globgor and the mhc. Maybe cause he thinks they don't have what it takes to keep mewni safe like he does.
Who wants to see marco with the wand against mina loveberry
What if Eclipsa’s purple magic has some correlation to Toffee’s black-green oozy corruption of magic
I think you forgot to add Glossaryck to your list. He very well could be the most cunning and best bad guy of the series.
I don't know about final villains. But I know one thing that I want. I want Ludo to be the one to sacrifice himself to defeat him. He has literally been through more character growth than any other character on the show. I believe it will go down like this. The main bad guy will somehow lead to Dennis dying. I think it will most likely be the spell with no name. But from this Ludo will finally see what his place in the story is, this was his purpose. With one final goodbye he casts the only spell he knows. Levatato, he flies into the sun with the final villain, fully redeeming himself and ending of with the first villain being the true hero of the story.
Or maybe the magic realm theory combines with Glossaryck being the final villain.
I think Toffee possesses Mina (like Magica possessing Lena) and invites Rhombulus to his side but we'll see!
I think it would be cool for the final character to be a mix of Mina, Toffee, Magic itself and others
"You don't belong here" could be a reference to Star and Moon not being part of the bloodline. They literally sent Moon back to her own people, where she's supposed to be.
Marco is gonna be the final villain don't @ me
Damnit! I was gonna say that
Reese Sternhagen good theory
@@richstarkid9495 Thanks, took me forever to come up with 👌👌
@@daffinydavis977Lol sorry beat ya to it ;)
@SuperCool Guy McGee I can't wait for all you FUCKING MARCO HATERS TO BE DISAPPOINTED AT THE END OF CLEAVED. ;)
Plot twist the last few episodes will be tea and crumpets with globgor, and the villain will be running out of tea.
And what if toffee comes back as a good guy fights seth while Mina fights others?
I mean, Toffee was a bad guy by story, but... what would've happened if he got what he had wanted?
Other antagonist: Bill Cypher reborn.
Or the finale villain is Marco possessed by magic
After Rose Quartz turned out to be Pink Diamond, I’m willing to believe Toffee will turn out to be Seth
thats actually sounds good
watch it be Janna XD she is mysterious so that wouldn't shock me hahah
I just really hope they don't end up wasting this show's potential, because at the moment it kind of looks like that's whats going to happen. And that would be a shame, because I love this cartoon. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
I think that the bird will be the final villain
The spell with no name does reference "Dark forces" in it's incantation.
I always wondered what that referenced.
Oh how wrong you were
Theory time!
I think Mina will show herself again by attacking during the episode of Cleaved, or before it, but she won't be the final boss. Maybe when she's beaten, she might be possessed by Toffee in the end, which will end Toffee, and most likely Mina as well. Either that, or Mina will realize that everyone loves Eclipsa, and she's just crazy.
Who remembers when they were in school? :D
What about Glossaryck? This would be a great twist, knowing that he's someone we've been with for a long time..idk
I would love to see Solaria returning via Nina.
Nina was designed to be queen dependent, and very close to Solaria. So I can see her stealing the wand in order to resurrect her or breaking a seal (each can be tied up to the armor) in order to bring Solaria, for her to bring the old rule. I think it would not be far fatched to state that due the closeness of Nina to the queen, she would know that Mewmans, or some of them, can use magic and maybe it can be a backup plan constructed by Solaria herself, for if the monsters were winning or an "incompetent" queen would come in times of danger.
I feel it would be a great opportunity for character development for Eclipsa and Star. The villain order of the show will be continuous (monster, half and half, mewman). The people might see that the queens are not gods and maybe will develop some backbone and will start thinking on their own. etc.
I am glad that I am not the only one who believes that Solaria is a candidate for the ultimate evil even in death. She hosted the bloodiest reign Mewni has ever seen, she is the Caligula of Star vs. And with the return of the book of spells, and Skywynne's resurrection spell, it makes it more likely right now.
Darb 0517 100% agree with you. Having a character like her can bring more information about Seth without introducing him. Will bring the main conflict of the series to be a physical one (important for a kid show). Maybe show the good side of Solaria each is her love for Eclipsa, which is stated in the book but in the series she looks like a pure evil.
@@maximmorshin7446 I also recognize that the book of spells is not the only option, as someone pointed out, tom can resurrect the dead, but at the cost them being a shambling, rotting corpse. Solaria's appearence would reflect her malevolent nature. What is worse...is that eclipsa's spell would be the weapon necessary to eradicate a powerful immortal undead queen. It is horrifying to ponder.
Yes
@@Darb-ed1rd yes
"you can't have enough lizard daddies" bruh
Ocram is obviously the final villain.
of course I’m joking though don’t sue me
What about the baby Marcos with wheels for hands
Seth is Toffee's dad. He died becuz of magic and that is why Toffee grew to hate magic, and the thought become stronger when meteora came.
I want evil Marco because of the monster arm.
the production is running out of budget so they somehow skip some important episode
Plot twist its Marco 😂
Take a shot Everytime thet say toffee in all eps
Meteora beat Mina, which kinda makes Mina a downgrade from Meteora in terms of strength. Perhaps a clue that Mina's a red herring?
Maybe they’ll do the same thing that adventure time did where they hype up one villain in the final season but they also hype up a bigger villain through the whole series and the big bad guy shows up
WTH NOOOOOOO MORE STAR HELL BO MAKE A SPIN OFF
DID U JUST SAY LIZARD DADDIES?! LMAOOO
I hope it's a possessed Marco, considering that he's been building up that he's leaving Mewiny, was part monster, prone to possession via Eclipsa's chapter, had those odd dreams in previous seasons, had contact with mewman magic, and in general; is one of the most badass characters without powers.
It would be an interesting fight to see play out if Star had to fight Marco externally while Marco fought him internally.
Fans: Ok season 4, whatcha got! Toffee, Seth, Ludo
The Show: what about Mina
Fans: ........F#$@
WHAT??? THERE WONT BE 5 SEASON?? I AM GONNA DIEEEEE...... I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS ENDING 😭😭😭😭😭 what About Starco????
Don’t worry Starco is gonna happen
starco isnt going to happen...
Yes it is
@@squirtletheturtle5622 I think it will happen too
The final villain of star vs the forces of evil:
Me: All of the above
Maybe Mina will revive Solaria, who will be the true villain!
I 100% Doubt that
why the fuck would solaria be the villain? that doesn't make any sense,she wouldn't kill her own daughter,if mina does bring her back though,mina needs a kick in the ass from her
Dark Spyro No Mina needs to be slaughtered 😠☠️
@@radekskreczko yes
Who wants to bet it'll be moto moto and Ugandan chungus?
I think that Toffee and Marco will be the final Villains.
Btw I think that Toffe is Seth and that they are just splited to 2 immortals becuase
A. We don't know about all of Toffee's abillites so maybe he splited to 2 immortals or maybe Glossaryck did it.
B. When Toffee "dies" there's always that peace of metal that is left there which other immortals don't have and I still don't understand some things about it: 1st: Is this a part of Toffee's body or is it not? Cuase if it's not then where does that come from? 2nd: If it is a part of he's body then where is it when Marco punched Toffee? The whole thing with that metal is really weird
C. Toffe said "You can call me Toffee" (could mean that it's not his true name) and even when Moon hears Toffee's name for the first time she asks "Toffee?, what kind of a name is that?"
I don't know what other people will think about my theory but I bellive it to be true. (It's also explains why Moon doesn't think about Seth as a thread but she does think Toffee is one and why Seth isn't mentioned in her chapter - they're the same person. It could also be that Toffee is trying to get his 2nd half back which is crystalized or captured somewhere).
I imagine Mina will, somehow get her hands on the Darkest Spell and use it to destroy all "enemies" of Mewni at once
I want Marco to be the final antagonist. I don't want Starco
And there’s so many unsolved mysteries !!!!!
"HOW ARE WE GONNA LIVE WITHOUT STAR BUTTERFLY?!
This is how I reacted when Weirdmaggedon part 3 aired.
I just rewatched GF
Where's season 3!?
@@maplezenar1649 There is no season 3 of Gravity Falls, It's finished, Watch GF
@Shantazia Hill exactly...and just like how svtfoe healed my heart from the end of gf, I know something else will take its place again someday and then we'll be on another roller coaster of feelings.
And so Regular Show and Adventure Time.