The Best Budget Shotgun Builds To Destroy PMCs! (Setup Guide Patch 0.14)
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One noteworthy item to consider, especially if you're contemplating slugs vs shot - the MP155 has *far* worse accuracy than the MP153, so slugs tend to feel a bit random past 50m or so when compared to the 153.
For this reason, I would recommend the 155 only for use with shot, and 153 for either cartridge type that suits your needs.
Good to know thx
Piranha being just buckshot filled with roofing nails is funny scary
The fact it damages and even pens armour is dumb.
@@SledTillDead It can go trought class 5 lmao. :D Stupid bullshit.
no it cannot @@luxiet2518
i shot pmcs multiple times with piranha and i always lose the gun fight even if i land all 4 of my piranha shots, its frustrating how bad the ammo is
@@probong2053 i use it in the saiga and it shreds but the new armor changes help with that
one quick sidenote: you can also buy scav vests from fence, most of the time he has them, and thats even cheaper and also good for crafting ripstop
Shhhhhh, otherwise people won't by my FIR scav vests for 25k
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Thanks for all the content and grats on the 100k. Will be using your gunsmith stuff when I get around to that bit of Tarkov!
FTX is the winner slug. Hilariously cheap, goes through class 2, super accurate, -25% recoil and huge damage.
Magnum shoots 8 projectiles that deal 50 damage. If one manages to hit exposed part of the head, instant kill to a PMC. You just need one of the 8 projectiles to land a hit.
man, those hip fire kills were awesome, your accuracy on those kills were on point, NICE!
So glad i'm already done with Setup, had alot of luck running into big groups and getting the drop on them with some good headshots.
I love the MP-153, been using that on Factory for a long time, even in later stages of the wipe, just with AP-20 or flechette. Keep it up Giga!
I was amazed to find how much worse the MP-155 was compared to the 153 - even when fully stacked with the Ultima stuff, it returns to center SUPER slow comparatively. Got my hands on a 153 off another PMC and frauded my 155, and it was a night and day difference. It wasn't even fully built, just the round suppressor. Definitely gonna be running the pistol grip plus a stock.
MP-153 with the AGR-870 pistol grip and an M4SS stock makes the weapon 7x2 in size so you'll almost always get it back in insurance.
Unless Im the one who kills you 😂 I always strip everyone's weapon parts lol
@@brodiekochie7709 you can't strip the pistol grip off to make it smaller.
@@Strigon_Actualyeah i would take that shotgun with me because of this quest or to go ramapage on factory😂
@@brodiekochie7709 ur aint doin shit
@@TirotexLP time to go back to school little man
That's a well made guide for all our timmys. Will share to my group.
This quest sucks and I have been dreading working on it, but I have consistently one-tapped with FTX slugs just shooting high center mass on players. Seems like if you hit anywhere other than the plate on the thorax hitbox you go through most of the time.
I didn’t realize how cheap the stock mod was, definitely going to be doing that, thanks GB!
i rather do this quest than kill pmcs with bolt action rifles under 15m 💀
@@Framed.Automotive What? Really? It's 25m btw and it's only 3 pmcs. You can do this super quickly on factory
@@Framed.AutomotiveI’m terrible at this game and I got that quest done within 5 to 7 factory raids. Just gotta camp the extract and make sure the door is closed so they can’t just run straight in. Yes I’m a loser lol but I had to
@@Xxbwachamp445xX Camping is a viable strat. At the end, you're only a loser if you die.
@@PsyTranceKaitia I appreciate that homie. Sometimes I still lose even with the camping 😂
Setup should be like 5 kills imo
Even 10 is good, but 15 is overkill
Heck yes just the video I needed for to do Setup!
For those who want to try something something cheeky , the MP- 18 is classified as a shotgun in-game. People are saying it doesn't work anymore so I went test it and can confirm kills with mp18 do not count for setup anymore.
doesnt count as the mp series of shotgun
Did they change this? It counted in previous wipes
MP-18 best gun in tarkov
@@little438 Used to?
I did try it after seeing this comment, and it sadly doesn't count towards the mission.
I have this quest next to do too and I look forward to it and dread it at the same time. Like most quests in Tarkov.
Correct me if i'm wrong. 6.5 Express can't headshot with one pellet since if it has 35 damage it automatically means that after leaving the barrel it's gonna have less than that.
Correct
True but it has a accuracy buff even before choke that means its super tight
Yes only magnum can get headshot without fragmentation beyond 10m.
@@theicedragon100 I believe 5.25 loses damage with distance less. But for this comment i've checked, magnum better even at 25m so magnum definetly better at this.
Yup. 6.5 expressed used to be very good but now is the worst buckshot.
Been rocking shottys all wipe, they are soo good.
This was quite helpful, thank you.
ya know, every time i head to dorms, there's always like 3-4 PMCs lying dead with ushankas and shotties. I think i'm gonna start headin there with some level 3 soft armor and a level 3 faceshield, start wrecking the fellas bring pirannah.
everytime i run dorms i get outplayed by guys who can’t get off the game
@@Gherkins just outplay them, its that simple
The other thing with the 153 is that with the pistol grip it makes it 2 slots tall. The weapon takes so many slots and weighs so much and is worth so little sold that basically no one takes it making it come back very reliably in insurance as well.
They need to make set up doable on any map
Thank you for this! Got my 15 kills w/ your build
Setup was fun, I just rushed dorms and fort when on my own and then just hungout with my friends when they were doing their quests. They call out PMC, I rush in like a maniac.
the 153 is the most versatile shotgun in game for both buck and slug. it is the most accurate and it is fairly cheap to fully build.
it's only drawback is ergo, which you can get to about 40 with a different stock.
Used to run this quest back in previous wipes with Magnum Buck but have switched to makeshift .50 cal BMG slugs and it was night and day difference.
I think the armor changes made the .50 cal BMG super worth it, it's a one shot if you hit them in a non armored part of their thorax (side) and with 26 pen it has a high chance to go through even level 3 armor (if I read charts correctly) so you can mess up level 3 armor wearers and even level 4-5-6 armor wearers when you shoot around their plates
47% to pen full durability class 3
Hell yeah 😎 doing setup now
8:40 what's also worth mentioning perhaps is that express travels faster than the other bucks so I still find it reliable even up to 50m, I usually run magnum but if I don't got flechette or ap-20 yet and I'm going on a bigger outdoors map where I can't easily force close quarters I'll roll for express instead.
If I'm not running STM-9 with AP, AK SAG or AK TKM with APM, I'll be running shotty with the above mentioned setup, love the shotties.
I like 6.5 express way more then pirana because most high tier armours have level 3 soft armour and 6.5 express is super tight even before a chokes added and gou can hit face really well with it.
@@Chevalier_knight agreed you can really feel the 15% accuracy bonus from the ammo
yeah the express shells definitely feel "tight" compared to other buckshots. i havent had much luck with piranha myself, and stick to legs/headshot instead.
Have you tried the P90 this wipe? I literally sold every other gun in my hideout and have been running p90/valday combo for the past week. Thing absolutely shreds.
@@CocaineCobain as you can maybe tell from the end of my original comment I'm more of a semi guy myself lol, if I go automatic tho it's usually the mp5.
Been wanting to try the SVT but still haven't touched it.
Hey Gigabeef, I wanted to ask if you have any recommendations for early-game shotgun build, if there are any usable builds from LL1, maybe LL2 traders?
Those stream clips were savage😂
I watched that flash drive part live. That shit was so intense lmao
piranha shreds, been using it all week
As a budget high ergo choice i prefer to rock the MP-155 with just the ultima top rail and underbarrel mount with a cheap red dot, no need for the full ultima build unless u want a silencer
I did this quest with FTX Slugs and the Specter scope, its basically a sniper and got me kills up to 150m
Most underrated round
Took me 12 raids and -1.4mil to finish this quest BUT I FINALLY DID IT
Giga, have you tried Rip rounds? I did punisher on Lighthouse with them. First shot to the legs just destroys players, pretty good range of 30-50m as well.
Love your vids
Hey giga just wondering if you’re going to be dropping an armour tier list video?
you should always use the choke for the slight accuracy bonus, much more important than the recoil
Not for Piranha, all accuracy does is change the MOA very slightly ie the center of your buckshot style spread. For slugs it's more impactful over longer ranges
@@Gigabeef heasdshots over medium range with buckshot feel a lot more consistent with the choke for me idk
shouldn't the MP-18 be possible too for this quest? never checked it out but its classified as a shotgun counts towards lvling shotgun skill etc and also is in the MP series.
The wipe they added it, I'm 99% sure I got my final kill with it because I was curious. I don't play anymore, so I can't confirm
0:30 Can't you also use the sawed-off shotgun sidearm? It's a MP -series by name.
I don't see why not - funny side note, in relation to that, it's also possible to use the MP-18 single shot, break action rifle chambered in 7.62x54mmR. So, if you want to turn Setup into a sniping quest... have at it, lol
@@connerhodgkins3617 Doesn't seem to work. Killed someone with MP-18, Ushanka and scav vest - no progress.
Setup already done, but could help for silent caliber.... on the other hand I already have AP20 as well so no need for pirana I guess
Beef out here about to increase the price of slickers bars by 300% on the flea lol
I did setup mostly with FTX slugs. All the piranha and buckshot just did no damage outside of close range for me, while the FTX got me a lot of armpit and head shots.
The BMG I'm sure is the best but I don't think I had it unlocked at the time.
One thing to note is the zeroing for shotguns is completely wrong because they are all zeroed for 7mm buckshot.
yeah FTX with a 2x32 Monstrum on the MP155 absolutely slaps.
BMG is a bit overrated with its tracer and +25 recoil imho, while FTX has -25 with slightly higher velocity and is a hundred times less expensive.
CSP isn't too bad either with its high fragmentation and 206 damage, can often be found with Fence or is readily available with Jager LL2.
Superformance HP with its super high and flat 594m/s velocity is also worth mentioning if you intend to use your shotgun as a sniper rifle, although the zeroing is a bit all over the place as mentioned
Chokes and longer barrels will definitely help with MOA/velocity too if you intend to use slugs
@@UnknownUnknown-uc5ty nothing below 20 pen on impact will fragment, so csp can't.
also BMG has a really good ballistic coefficient but yeah the recoil is a thing
I've been buying rip rounds off the flee, I have found they're still incredibly strong even at range, if your not killing them, you are severly hindering them from moving or shooting back accurately.
what im doing rn is using superformance bc it does 230 dmg and its 2 rounds to kill someone, better accuracy, better recoil
I’m pretty new to tarkov but was able to do the scav cosplay quest in about 3-4 days, is that not the norm?
this equipments only or we can take a bullet proof gilet (a body armor) ? What about an headset ?
My problem has either been running into feral packs of 4-5 scavs, killing 3 and then eventually getting 1 tapped to the face. Or doing 300/300 damage and still dying. Maybe the laser will help, lol
The salvo or salco silencer whatever it is, the expensive one, with ftx ammo and a 720 barrel on a 153 kills at 80m. I’ve definitely been reported a few times
does the sawed off pistol one count?
Target ring is a no go if you go suppressed.
can u test ak-103 with ps or pp bullets ? i think its good now
Used 7m for 90% of my kills. Seems pretty consistent up close especially if you’re hitting headshots. Pirana seems pretty hit and miss to me just because of the damage output being lower. Yea you can pen the lvl 2 aramid but it’s damage is gonna be even lower after it makes it through that armor
I prefer the 155 ultima build cause way more ergo over every other shotgun by far. The 153 is longer and therefore more bulky, more barrel swinging. Only point for the 153 is the better accuracy.
I have had good luck with both Pirahana and the .50BMG Shells for setup. Lately ive been prefering the .50bmg for the standoff range in an engagement. And with the way armor works i can 2-3 kill a PMC from farther away than those using Pirahna.
Piranha has a tight spread up to almost 50 feet lol it's so easy to headshot
@@brodiekochie7709 Yeah I liked Pirahana for the armor pen and headshot but I was finding at distances around 50m it was falling off pretty good. I will concede that inside dorms or really any fight within 50ft, Pirahana dominates over the slugs.
@@CaptianMoePedro yeah, I feel like if ur trying to snipe with a shotgun and u don't have the jump on ur opponent, ur gonna lose 80% of fights anyways. Better to just force yourself into cqb
Ate jaeger 2 you can grab a double barrel shotgun that fits in a pistol slot
I like to bring a stack of magnum or pirahna into raids with the shotgun, just incase i dont have time to reload, or i run out of ammo, 2 pirahna at once will decimate a lot of folks, and its so cheap, like total of 11 or 12k, to have a pmc killing pistol that fires many of the most commonly found 'decent' rounds in raid. Magnum, express, even grizzly and peluva are okay in a pinch
the double barrel doesnt work with setup
Personally I have more success with .50 BMG or Superformance slugs, than with buckshots. When you run into a squad as a solo player with the shotties you can easily get cornered and run out of shells or get stuck in reloading. The tactic that works for me best is to keep distance, flank a lot and pick them one by one. That's more difficult with buckshots imho.
Good tips but also reminds me why I stopped playing. I can't stand any of the "Kill PMCs" quests. I've got over 700 hours in the game and I can count the number of decent firefights I've had on one hand. Every encounter I've had with a PMC has been either me happening to be in the right spot and ambushing them, or my immediate death. And even my ambushes, half the time they kill me anyway.
Yeah the combat in this game is mostly wack.. decent fights kinda never happen its 90% one taps and armor and helmets do like nothing in most cases also desync and cheaters dont really help.for a good pvp experience... and this in a fps game jeez😂 its sad when u see old tarkov pvp and how long some fights lasted felt way better then now.
i remember i got that shotgun form pmc and it shreded everythink on it way like notthing unless i ran out of ammo in next raid and died
So can you wear armor for this quest ?
I've been running BMGs - I might have to switch to pirannah. I'm stuck at 11/15. They really need to lower the kill amount for this task.
but are u allow to use any armor or just the 2 items u mention?
You just have to wear the ushanka and scav vest, so no armor rigs as you can't put them on at the same time as the vest
Bro, today I used ur build and killed a hyper geared 3 man in crackhouse. I myself dunno how, but u know, free balistic masks 😂
My friend was having a coping moment when piranha penned his level 4 ceramic armour and he died immediately in the chest. Turns out apparently the chest area is given level 2 class armour so uhh major ouchies.
13:40 did he just double click the load in shells? I never knew you could do that
I came to a different conclusion in my setup guide. Felt that 50 bmg was much more consistent than piranha.
Tell this shit to my post raid statistics with 600 flash damage and 500 damage to armor with .50 BMG. Piranha can make the job done much better.
Yeah just got killed while I did 400 damage to a pmc with 50 bmg :( @@luxiet2518
Have had the worst luck with this quest this wipe, I regret not just putting all my focus into immediately when I unlocked it, after people get better guns and armor and you still don't have flechette this becomes more painful
poleva 6U slug is amazing, the little blue ones. Did all my shotgun quests with it and Piranha for close range maps.
I did mine with your 153 build, but remmington choke over the brake, and 610 barrel for better ergo/longer ADS and bmg slugs.
11:20 crazy aim ngl
so crazy, like at 15 to 20 meters I can dump 3 shells of piranha at a guy and he acts like nothing happened but he 1 taps me first shot with his piranha. Doesnt make sense I aim for throat.
BSG if you hear this please make a setting for one press one shell.
Was wondering why I was killing so many people with decked out shotguns on customs. Interesting that they moved the quest.
They didnt tho? Its been customs either always or at least for a few wipes now
As in how soon the quest unlocks... Not the location.
@@Scott.E.H ahhh ok, sorry for misunderstanding my dude! :)
The amount of these shotguns I've looted off people these last couple days, to think it was all your fault
I'm thinking a very cheeky way to complete this quest and make bank in the process is to sit in the bathroom behind marked room. Wait for someone to open it and boom. 1 kill towards the quest plus marked room loot lol
If you want to wait 200 raids to complete the quest than that might work.
Between the loot vacuums, esp/radar bros, and most people with a marked key not wanting to blasted and checking that spot, I don't think you will ejtoy too much marked room loot. That said, I see A LOT of people looting the roof, and nobody expects that to get camped. And you can shoot people entering/leaving fairly easily. Could be nasty.
i like using ultimas with pirhana or AP
The quest was easy. Only difficult part was finding PMCs. I would rush dorms, crack and stronghold. I’d only kill 1 PMC every 2 or 3 raids. Idk but the majority of the player base must not like the snow, because no one was moving.
133x8 mags aren't too hard to come by...
Often, if your scav spawns with a 133-shotgun, you're likely to start off with the x8 mag.
Regular AI-scavs also carry MP-133 with x8 mags, even if it's a "waste" of a gun-slot.
Either way, it's the "easy way" to acquire the mags for your shotties early on, before being able to get them off of the jaeger.
I'll stick with magnum, I can headshot up to around 40 meters somewhat consistently (if the target is not running)
I am finding shotguns fairly inconsistent, which is depressing. Piranha worked great one raid, than turned over nothing the next 3. 50 bmg kills scavs fairly easily up to 150m but i lierally havent got a return on investment against a pmc. Took AP20 in, got jump/headshot on rocks over new gas by a guy using an svd from train wreck by old gas. At night, without nods. With one shot. So ap20 is still untested.
15:34 yo that dude fucking baited a scav voice line you can hear the distortion from the soundboard lmfao
Do I also need to do a quest to unlock 12/70 Piranha?
I think Piranha is available from jaeger 2 directly!
I;m two days ahead of this video by necessity. I feel the RNG is good for low end PC's as well because you never are able to estimate the ping in this game sometimes. Seems like im unloading magazines on people and coming back with zero hits.... it's baffling. Switched to a shotty and suddenly I can one tap and two tap PMCs again.
I had to hit someone with piranha so many times it was comical. I'd just stick to magnum fuckshot or RIPs if you feel like actually hiting your shots.
Why not the Saiga?
Don't you use your left shoulder aim?
Now the mp153 just needs to be in stock ...
155+okp-7+custom lite slugs. No better budget shotgun exists.
I've had nothing but bad luck with piranha so I don't use it anymore
I’m surprised people are still doing this one. Piranha crafts at level two workbench and most armor has ridiculous hit boxes allowing for one-to-two shot kills.
I am lvl 30 and I didn't even start this quest. I just hate running dressed like a clown and forcing myself into cqc where I lack reaction to reliably win. Also the prices for hats are insane and I barely see them on scavs.
@@kirillhaetsky3049bro theyre only 40k a piece now, contrary to 110k last week. It’s doable
my issue is i barely run into pmcs, even at dorms/construction/crackhouse/stronghold i legit just never run into any pmcs
Can't wait to play with ks23 this wipe
just rush every shot you hear @@RizenEly
My faith is with 8.5magnum buck. You can’t change it arghhhh!!!.😂 I dress in bear yellow jacket and black pant. P.scav hesitate to shot me first even he caught me off guard.
7:35 : is it a SG or a SMG ???? wtf this speed of fire ???
so no hope for the Bernelli M4 shotgun?
the quest restricts what weapons you can use. so yes you can use it. i just won't count.
it also has MUCH lower firerate altho has much higher mag capacity it ends up being worse
I don't understand how setup is hard for anyone unless people just haven't used shotguns much. Took 4 raids lol With flech being so expensive just went with piranah and it absolutely slaps up close and literally sniped a few over 100m away. Aim for the chin/neck and fire.
How the fuck do I get Jaeger? Google said "Introduction" quest from Mechanic but none of the traders offer "Introduction"
Have a check on the wiki, you have to be level 2 and accept gunsmith part 1 first escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Introduction
Wiki is very good for tarkov :) necessary for quite a few quests...
COmment for the YT algorithm
Any magnum f*ckshot enjoyers?
Alright Beef, any chance you could make an up to date video on a good method to get jaeger lvl2? What;s the best way to get past some of the pain in the arse quests like shooter pt.3? Been on it for 2 weeks now, i get on average about 2 raids in a day if i'm lucky, sometimes i can sesh it on the weekends. Sitting in factory trying to get it got me no where any of the wipes up until now, i tried a few raids in there the otherday, getting the kills is no issue, its the range. I think it sucks that they locked the holodilnik behind lvl 2 jaeger now as it basically makes it such a slog for us standard account users.
"Have I been seen?"
-casually gets shot
"Oh I have."
Had a good laugh at that one -- thanks for the Setup advice
Best - mp155 with .50 bmg i killed 15 players in 3 raids