I was like "aww man, I wonder if the whispering actually exist here" until I heard it on my 6 hours of gameplay and I was like "YESS!! SO HAPPY THEY KEPT IT!"
You people always remember the whisper, but how many of you ever talk about the mourning that occurs when you're outside room 208 in the hotel? No one ever mentions it.
@@brandenlucero the crying sound when you walked near that room? I heard that, but most people don't see it as interesting as the whisper that is basically plays around with your ears...
It also could be because the fight takes place in a freezer, thus the cold doesn't allow James to properly focus on his shots. It's really a detail that could be interpreted in many ways and neither way is wrong.
Man the bathroom scream really caught me off guard lmao ( 0:20) I never played silent hill 2 og,so i knew nothing about it. But I remember that scream in my playthrough of the remkake and being so damn confused,didnt know it came from the stall though,thought it was outside the bathroom.
Dude im with you! Same thing happened to me, i had the headset with 3d audio, this scare happened and my heart jumped out my chest, first time in my 30 years i had to pause the game to chill out!
I was playing that part last night whilst in a share screen with a few of my buddies over playstation. I kid you not, not a single one of us didn't need to step away for a minute or two to compose ourselves. I've never paused a game that fast.
So I will mention some more. In the game there are some repeating license plates. Some of them, if not all, are also references to something. For example 2 of them are references to New Testament. One is EPHE432 - Ephesians 4:32 - "Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." Another is COR11673 - Corinthians 16:13 - "Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong." I bet there are much more hidden stuff.
I believe in the original silent hill 2 pre release version Mary asks James "why did you kill me" in the same scene. Nice little reference to some cut content.
@@davenic2471 it's not cut, in the og the first time you play it's not clear what she says. It's only when you beat the game and play NG+ that you can hear her ask him clearly, "James, why did you kill me?"
- when you first get the handgun, if you continue to hold the ADS button after you first reload, James will fire a shot accidentally without the player pressing the shoot button (this only happened to me playing on hard combat and hard puzzles settings) - there is a telephone number on a bulletinboard outside of the room where you kill the first enemy and get the radio. It's for a real life cleaning service in Indianapolis Indiana - in woodside apts, there's a bookshelf outside the bathroom where you first find Eddie. On it you can see medical dictionaries and a freen book with looks like the title "Deuteranopia" which is a type of color-blindness where the person can only see blues and golds, a possible reason why Eddie is dressed in all blues and khakis -earlier in Woodside Apts, beside the dead man in the chair, there's a book beside him on a small shelf titled "Pets under our garden" by Pablo Gato. I have no idea what it could mean -also in Woodside Apts, when you enter room 201 (you get the key from the 3 coins puzzle. It's the last room before you switch to the Otherworld for the first time), the first bedroom on your right is where the "Leave" ending takes place, where James is sitting and Mary is laying very sick on the bed having a conversation. You also hear a female gasp mini-jumpsxare when you enter this bedroom. (This is before you see Pyramid Head, get in the closet and shoot at him through the door) - The same gasp can be heard in a brick tunnel before Rosewater park, before you see Maria for the first time Last one -a very unsettling and hard to understand whisper that lasts about 5 seconds happens in blue creek Apts. Room 209. The room where you get the swan body part to put on the balance beam puzzle. I could not distinguish if it's actual words or just meant to be creepy and scary.
"Pets under our garden" sounds like a metaphor for dark secrets being buried deep underground. The pets stands for something we once held dear. The garden is the human mind. It sounds like shame and denial. Maybe its meant to portray a undignified end. Or our part in the death of the pet and trying to hide it.
@BlackChad792 very cool. I was also thinking about the line that Eddie says during his boss fight, about killing the dog and watching him chew his own guts, then shooting the owner? But I thought it was a farfetched comparison. Yours is much more relevant. Also searched for the book in real life, no results for the title or author.
The whisper is from the og, they kept the same. In the og it didn't always trigger, now it does. Many people tried to understand the ramblingd but apparently it doesn't say anything.
I was soo looking forward to playing this. Then Hurricane Helene unexpectedly ripped the roof off my place and water came pouring in the house and I had to put everything into storage and I've been homeless for 3 weeks now. I'm just looking forward to playing this hopefully within the next 3 months or so
As well as dead wife. And save Mary, save wife, there are a lot of combinations. In fact all of the original 19 combinations from the og game can be tried.
In the Bliss ending with the tape... Marys voice just sounds dull, like from a tape. When we see James, his voice sounds normal. Did we see him entering the world of the tape? Had he a moment of clarity when he picked up the cam?
In order to see this ending James drinks a bottle of white claudia before whatching the tape, a hallucinogenic drug referenced in other SH games. So this endig probably means its inside James head. Still not sure what the empty chair means. Did he die of an overdose or is it just symbolic that at that moment he is mentally in the tape world?
Its not just a hallucinogenic, but also a critical component in a lot of the cult's rituals which implies that it has supernatural properties as well. I personally think what happens is that the hallucinogenic properties of the drug combined with Silent Hill's weakened fabric of reality, and its power to manifest. James sort of "tripped out", wanting to be in the video with his wife so bad that it actually manifested into reality and caused him to get sucked into the tape (maybe it's like a micro dimension or alternate reality within the tape.).
@@ClassicDoomHD I think canon in this case is that he ODs and restarts his cycle in Silent Hill. Afterall, James only leaves when he accepts and forgives himself.
@@denusklausen3685to be fair, it’s debatable that he’s currently alive to being with. So the drug could very much have magical properties, in the limbo that might be this Silent Hill.
@@AbeM. I think all the subtext points to him being alive. He has died a bunch of times in the cycle though (which is why he finds his own corpses lying all over Silent Hill). He is in Samsara, where he subconsciously punishes himself until he finally lets go and forgives himself which ends the cycle. I'll give you that the ending leaves it ambiguous whether or not he actually leaves, but the ending is called "leave" and it would just be a very weird story to have it all be from the perspective of a dead person, when his goal is to find his dead wife.
451 began with System Shock and only showed up in games by the same devs (System Shock 2 due to being a sequel, BioShock due to being same devs as SS2, Dishonored and Deus Ex due to former SS1 devs) and then other games began doing it. But initially it was a reference to Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.
My theory is that since the monsters are the manifestations of James Guilt and were aggresive as if they are trying to make him remember. Once James remembers the truth, they stop or feel weak since their purpose is over.
I’m currently writing a review for the game at the moment and your videos have helped me find so much more than I ever noticed my first time round, I’ll be sure to give you props for all the amazing finds 🙌 the one at 2:56 I noticed at the end of my playthrough and thought it was a genius touch !
If you save the game with Maria, she will ask James :"something wrong?" and James replies :"No it's fine."... The same thing happens in Bliss ending with Mary:"honey? did something happen?" and James:"no it's fine. everything's fine." and both the Bliss ending and save game screen show that We can see James from a place outside his world.
I like to think when James learns the truth, the town has no material to work with anymore hence why the enemies stop attacking or are just reused ones.
Exactly. The monsters are like his Guilt or Darkness personified and they were so aggresive as if they are trying to make James remember. Once he does, they don't have a purpose anymore so they feel weak.
In detail 5 at 1:35, bellow Robbie the Rabbit's easter egg, there is also the "Three Peaks Tours" which is probably a nod to the Twin Peaks TV show (the logo is very similar to Twin Peaks Sheriff Department).
omg im so ashamed. ive been a silent hill fan since i was 12 (im 35 now), and one thing you said made me realise something i never did. when you said the scene in the bathroom (in the beginning of the game) was James looking at his hand as he just killed his wife, I was still under the impression he killed her 3 years ago. Where in fact (correct me if im wrong) she's been suffering with the disease for 3 years and him going to Silent Hill, he just killed her before going there. And her body is at the back seat. And he went through all that, to finally go back to the car, sit inside, look at her corpse, and then kill himself... I never realise this till you mentioned that beginning scene O.O my mind is blown. and no wonder laura said she just met marry few days ago or whatever. it makes sense now...
James does not kill himself. If you got the 'water' ending, that's not the default/canon one. I've consulted various wikis and the canon ending is the 'Leave' one, where James and Laura leave silent hill together, James possibly adopting her later on as she is an orphan.
Yea I always thought he was lying to himself when his wife died 3 when actuality he kill here like a few hours before he arrived in silent hill. That is how I interpreted it considering how delusional James is.
It actually makes Maria along with the new added ending, make the game a lot more interesting, since if Mary's body is in the back seat and a new added ending is about using the town to bring her back to life, it adds a almost ironic but sad twist to Maria's character as she was born from this wish to have Mary back and is even James ideal version of Mary, shows off more leg, more flirtatious and forward, and considering in the og game you play as her for a side story, my guess is while not exactly a human by traditional means, she is still a living sentient being almost like Cheryl was from SH 1, more then just a creation of the town and a person in their own right, but was still rejected over the wife he himself killed, not to mention also then killed by James herself.
A really cool detail i found was when you are in the brookhaven hospital otherworld, if you go to room C5 you can hear marias breathing and her heartbeat. Maria isnt actually there in the room with you, but she is in the real world resting as you look for laura. no idea what this could mean, could just be a cool little hint but it only happens in room C5 and stops as soon as you leave the room.
@@chinpallatea8007 Most likely this. Probably to stop any unwanted interactions or funky behaviour between the nurses and maria. Likely easier to just prevent the nurses from entering the room than to specifically set up behaviour for that one particular instance.
Maria is Mary. Just in a more sexual form. The nurses cared for Mary when she had cancer (it’s implied that’s what she had. Likely metastatic lung cancer). The nurses cared for Mary and since Maria is Mary, it makes sense why the nurses won’t attack her
@@joshuagraham2843Yes, that’s how people got early access on Friday (I did). And it comes with the digital art book, soundtrack and Pyramid Head pizza box mask, Mira the Dog mask, and Robbie the Rabbit mask.
Me neither, i bought the full package to even play it 48 hours before and didn't regret it for a second, I did it because I wanted to send a message to KONAMI that people care about the game, and on reddit I saw that a lot of other people did so, incredible.
I think there are references to all the mainline games up to Origins. I haven't played enough of Downpour to know if there was anything from that, but one of the paintings in the game is the house from Silent Hill 1. There is an apartment with chained doors, representing 4. There is also a semi truck in the game. Its not the same nor does it have a payload, but it is the only semi truck in the game and I think its a nod to Origins.
There are references to Walter Sullivan, the central character in 4, as well. His gravestone and a newspaper about the twins he killed, at least one more I'm forgetting I think.
The bathroom jumpscare made me go "OH FUCK YOU I REMEMBER THAT!" lmao Another that I'm unsure if it's a mistake or like the guilt one, Mary's letter to Laura says she wanted to adopt her on the page but when you read it it changes the wording and even adds an extra sentence. Noticed it last night when I finally beat it.
i noticed detail 10 today on a playthrough, the way the nurse seems like shes about to attack and just stumbles over caught me by surprise, i remember joking saying... "did i fart or something?
I always thought the radio static from Mary was "Why did you kill me" instead of "Did you kill me". I imagine she knew it was him, considering he was the only person with her in her final moments and they had no other family in the home. It's cool to see other interpretations of it!
Heres a detail that no one has caught yet. After you get the flashlite and look at the mannequin with Mary's clothes the mannequin is not centered like every other singke thing you insoect in the game, meaning they want you to look at what is past it at the vanity mirror. Whats on the vanity mirror? And mannequin head, and the shadow is covering its mouth. Even though the nose is not overed i think ittis inplying James smothered his wife, OR that he silenced her verbal abuse because he killed her.
I thought the bathroom scream was originally in the 3rd game but I wasn't sure so every bathroom I walked in I was thinking is there gonna be a scream, then it happened and I still crapped my pants 😂
Of all the details of this game, I love the multiple endings the best. That's truly how I feel like life is depending on the things you do and one of the more haunting aspects of the game to me personally. Wish this remake had a PT reference though.
So, have there been any good theories as to what happens in that last ending you show? Are we witnessing James in a loop? Is this what he experienced before the start of the game, and when the light leaves his eyes, he is yet again forgetting that he just killed her, and it's just his projection of her interacting with him - meantime as they've had confirmed by Konami Mary's body actually IS in that back seat? Are we witnessing James repeating the cycle? Or is there a better idea on it yet?
My head canon is that in the Stillness ending, James truly accepts what he did, which is why he hears Mary forgiving him and saying she’ll wait for him. So James will live on instead of driving off the cliff, waiting to hopefully reunite with his wife someday
Tye stillness and in water ending are almost exactly 1-1 for James except the very end when he sees the letter instead of mary covered in the back seat. Stillness lets us see that convo WITH Mary.
I never knew the enemies actually gets weaker after you watch the tape, implying that his guilt is disappearing as he started to accept what he has done to Mary.
The way I see it is a bit different. Before that point, they were the monsters. But once James and the player realize the truth, they become scared of him... James has become the scary monster...
@@misternuggets6604 man, this is why I LOVED the bathroom mirror scene... James sees himself as an emotionless person, a monster who had just killed his loved ones.
Pretty sure the 4th one isnt an easter egg. Just a boundary check for enemy entities to not be in "Safe Rooms". Notice how the enemy gets nudged out the room everytime it stumbles in from attacking outside
Also the time on all the clock from puzzle to everything in the game is always the same forgot the exact time but im assuming thats Mary’s time of death.
does it mean that james is trapped in silent hill forever for doing bad things? like a theory that after james kill his wife he also commit suicide then from there he brought to hell (silent hill)
The monster probably got weaker because James now rembers he killed mary so the monsters are getting weakee and less aggressive because the purpose was to make james remember
How did I miss the bathroom jump scare? Do you have to try to open that door multiple times? Cuz I only tried once, and expected to hear a scream but never did.
You mean because he always have the index finger on the trigger? Maybe is a detail, remember he's a civial without any background on gun management, could be that
To add on to this… The reason why his aim is shaky is because he’s afraid to kill Eddie (since he sees him as a good person). That's why it's more harder to control when shooting compared to the monsters you face.
James feels no remorse killing monsters, and thus his reticle is still and focused. But when he faces Eddie, his reticle shakes uncontrollably, because there's a different kind of fear and empathy when facing one of your own. Being forced to kill Eddie is a big turning point in the story for James, because up to that point he only had to deal with actual monsters. But now he's faced with a human being, a horribly damaged one who was relentlessly bullied until he decided murder was the only answer left, and started finding pleasure in it, be it humans or innocent animals. His character is a fascinating talking point, because it helps kind of draw a line between him and James, and how murder has affected and become a part of both of them in different ways.
My new theory about SH2 is that James killed his wife recently, then he took some hard-core drugs, so everything that happened in the game was just hallucination (including every side character). Then, after he watched the recording the effects wore off and he became really sad. Before he left the hotel room he used the drugs again, so he was tripping balls once more 😂
No, the events of the game are not a hallucination. You might be confused if you never played any of the original games in the series, but Silent Hill is a real place, with real monsters, and everything that happens is real for every character in it. Laura is the only character who can’t see anything because the town has no influence over her, likely because she’s a child and feels no guilt. The only “fake” characters are the towns version of Mary and Maria.
@pathetic2399 I know. I didn't mean this seriously. I just wanted highlight how people obsess over SH2. They even perceive flaws in the game as some kind of genius move from the creators. I've seen so many out there theories with little to no evidence to back it up. Or people claiming to know which ending is canon, even though the devs said that there's no defenitive ending.
You missed the secrets like how they cut out Maria actually being shown getting stabbed for no other reason than woke gaming developers now think you cannot show violence towards women…however for men it’s all bets off because they only know double standards. Then the absurd removal of James suffocating Maria when she was sick…like completely, it’s so ridiculous. They should have had a mode with all the normal stuff being included that could be labeled “non pussy mode” and the regular woke mode as “pathetic ‘modern audience’ mode”
they literally show them dying and they show how James puts the pillow in her head, how she grabs his arms and suffocates. They added the sound that was censored from the og... y'all are making up problems
@@ShockerTopper What do you mean “removal of James suffocating Maria when she was sick”? Can’t tell if you’re being genuine here or false-flagging, the only real change made in that direction I could see was their removing Mary’s apology to James at the end, and arguably the design change. What the fuck are you talking about
Thats some nuclear grade brainrot you got there buddy. The whole game is violence towards women including all the monsters. We literally see Maria get stabbed in the elevator scene with the blade through her chest and blood everywhere, and we literally see James suffocating his wife. Have you been playing with your eyes closed or have you been fed second hand ragebait videos and know nothing about the actual game? LMAO 💀💀
Nice opinion, I’m just gonna assume you grew up more with resident evil and expected this to be like that… based on that comment alone, you haven’t played the game and you’re most likely disappointed this was a psychological horror mystery compared to a constant action horror game like RE.
@@randomContentHere93228 You assumed wrong then fanboy, i played and finished it on hard, only 7 deaths, leave ending and i explored a lot all the time, there's a fight in almost every corner of the map and there's no horror whatsoever, not even the psychological one, i played more videogames in my life than you can ever dream of playing lol, this isn't Silent Hill and yes it's an action game, you have no clue what you are talking about.
“Hey don’t you think I’d look good in the one? In a different world if bearing it but the woke creators of this game didn’t want to have me in the outfit that makes the most sense for my character” - Maria “Wait…what did you just say?” - James “Uh I have no idea” Maria lol
@@jimmybonez7528sad anymore, not really. Not a game it seems that gets released now without someone screaming it's woke, they think everything is woke now.
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 What's funny is one of the bosses is literally in the image of someone being abssed in a bed and somehow these people delude themselves into thinking it's "censored"
Detail Number 8 - I meant to say the bugs start moving not stop*
They kept the whisper....no matter how many years and stills gave me chills 😬
I was like "aww man, I wonder if the whispering actually exist here" until I heard it on my 6 hours of gameplay and I was like "YESS!! SO HAPPY THEY KEPT IT!"
You people always remember the whisper, but how many of you ever talk about the mourning that occurs when you're outside room 208 in the hotel? No one ever mentions it.
@brandenlucero I just remember the disturbing music score in the original I hope they also kept it!😁
@@eternaldarkness6228 black fairy, I'm glad they kept it in the remake without any revision...
@@brandenlucero the crying sound when you walked near that room?
I heard that, but most people don't see it as interesting as the whisper that is basically plays around with your ears...
I think the crosshair shaking in the Eddie boss fight might just be James' apprehension to attacking another human
It also could be because the fight takes place in a freezer, thus the cold doesn't allow James to properly focus on his shots. It's really a detail that could be interpreted in many ways and neither way is wrong.
He had experience with wife though
@@imNoveria Uhh... this could be also the reason why he's so shaky
James is a killer, yes, that doesn't mean he likes it
@@imNoveria he doesnt remember that at this point
@@its_smoggy3502 He could be shaking subconsciously
Literally witnessing the light fade from his eyes at the end is so incredibly chilling...
Man the bathroom scream really caught me off guard lmao ( 0:20) I never played silent hill 2 og,so i knew nothing about it. But I remember that scream in my playthrough of the remkake and being so damn confused,didnt know it came from the stall though,thought it was outside the bathroom.
Dude that scream with 3d audio felt like it was coming from inside my room it scared the absolute hell out of me .
Bro, I remembered that from the original, and it STILL scared the absolute shit out of me.
Dude im with you! Same thing happened to me, i had the headset with 3d audio, this scare happened and my heart jumped out my chest, first time in my 30 years i had to pause the game to chill out!
I was playing that part last night whilst in a share screen with a few of my buddies over playstation. I kid you not, not a single one of us didn't need to step away for a minute or two to compose ourselves. I've never paused a game that fast.
i have immense respect for the developers for adding all these details. GOTY
The enemies dont just become weak they act afraid of him
Whic makes sense because now james realizes all the side enemies is refence to her wife and they afraid james because he killed her
So I will mention some more. In the game there are some repeating license plates. Some of them, if not all, are also references to something. For example 2 of them are references to New Testament.
One is EPHE432 - Ephesians 4:32 - "Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."
Another is COR11673 - Corinthians 16:13 - "Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong."
I bet there are much more hidden stuff.
In detail 9, she's actually asking why he killed her
And left her
I believe in the original silent hill 2 pre release version Mary asks James "why did you kill me" in the same scene. Nice little reference to some cut content.
@@davenic2471 it's not cut, in the og the first time you play it's not clear what she says. It's only when you beat the game and play NG+ that you can hear her ask him clearly, "James, why did you kill me?"
- when you first get the handgun, if you continue to hold the ADS button after you first reload, James will fire a shot accidentally without the player pressing the shoot button (this only happened to me playing on hard combat and hard puzzles settings)
- there is a telephone number on a bulletinboard outside of the room where you kill the first enemy and get the radio.
It's for a real life cleaning service in Indianapolis Indiana
- in woodside apts, there's a bookshelf outside the bathroom where you first find Eddie. On it you can see medical dictionaries and a freen book with looks like the title "Deuteranopia" which is a type of color-blindness where the person can only see blues and golds, a possible reason why Eddie is dressed in all blues and khakis
-earlier in Woodside Apts, beside the dead man in the chair, there's a book beside him on a small shelf titled "Pets under our garden" by Pablo Gato. I have no idea what it could mean
-also in Woodside Apts, when you enter room 201 (you get the key from the 3 coins puzzle. It's the last room before you switch to the Otherworld for the first time), the first bedroom on your right is where the "Leave" ending takes place, where James is sitting and Mary is laying very sick on the bed having a conversation. You also hear a female gasp mini-jumpsxare when you enter this bedroom. (This is before you see Pyramid Head, get in the closet and shoot at him through the door)
- The same gasp can be heard in a brick tunnel before Rosewater park, before you see Maria for the first time
Last one
-a very unsettling and hard to understand whisper that lasts about 5 seconds happens in blue creek Apts. Room 209. The room where you get the swan body part to put on the balance beam puzzle. I could not distinguish if it's actual words or just meant to be creepy and scary.
Green book* not freen book lol
"Pets under our garden" sounds like a metaphor for dark secrets being buried deep underground. The pets stands for something we once held dear. The garden is the human mind. It sounds like shame and denial. Maybe its meant to portray a undignified end. Or our part in the death of the pet and trying to hide it.
@BlackChad792 very cool. I was also thinking about the line that Eddie says during his boss fight, about killing the dog and watching him chew his own guts, then shooting the owner? But I thought it was a farfetched comparison. Yours is much more relevant.
Also searched for the book in real life, no results for the title or author.
Oh god, I thought I had accidentally fired the gun, it made me jump to the ceiling hahahhahahah, I felt both dumb and embarrassed
The whisper is from the og, they kept the same. In the og it didn't always trigger, now it does. Many people tried to understand the ramblingd but apparently it doesn't say anything.
I was soo looking forward to playing this. Then Hurricane Helene unexpectedly ripped the roof off my place and water came pouring in the house and I had to put everything into storage and I've been homeless for 3 weeks now. I'm just looking forward to playing this hopefully within the next 3 months or so
@@XeresKyle holy shit man, sorry you’re dealing with all this. Good luck, I hope your situation gets back to normal as soon as possible
I pray you get a safe home
L bozo
Welcome to hurricane hill
Not only can you spell "Kill Wife" on the suitcase, but also "Kill Mary"
As well as dead wife. And save Mary, save wife, there are a lot of combinations. In fact all of the original 19 combinations from the og game can be tried.
you can also spell dick milf
I spelled "WEED WEED".
You can also spell "d*ck M*lf"
@@KetRalus Considering the new "Bliss" ending that's really funny.
In the Bliss ending with the tape...
Marys voice just sounds dull, like from a tape. When we see James, his voice sounds normal. Did we see him entering the world of the tape? Had he a moment of clarity when he picked up the cam?
In order to see this ending James drinks a bottle of white claudia before whatching the tape, a hallucinogenic drug referenced in other SH games. So this endig probably means its inside James head. Still not sure what the empty chair means. Did he die of an overdose or is it just symbolic that at that moment he is mentally in the tape world?
Its not just a hallucinogenic, but also a critical component in a lot of the cult's rituals which implies that it has supernatural properties as well. I personally think what happens is that the hallucinogenic properties of the drug combined with Silent Hill's weakened fabric of reality, and its power to manifest. James sort of "tripped out", wanting to be in the video with his wife so bad that it actually manifested into reality and caused him to get sucked into the tape (maybe it's like a micro dimension or alternate reality within the tape.).
@@ClassicDoomHD I think canon in this case is that he ODs and restarts his cycle in Silent Hill. Afterall, James only leaves when he accepts and forgives himself.
@@denusklausen3685to be fair, it’s debatable that he’s currently alive to being with.
So the drug could very much have magical properties, in the limbo that might be this Silent Hill.
@@AbeM. I think all the subtext points to him being alive. He has died a bunch of times in the cycle though (which is why he finds his own corpses lying all over Silent Hill). He is in Samsara, where he subconsciously punishes himself until he finally lets go and forgives himself which ends the cycle. I'll give you that the ending leaves it ambiguous whether or not he actually leaves, but the ending is called "leave" and it would just be a very weird story to have it all be from the perspective of a dead person, when his goal is to find his dead wife.
451 began with System Shock and only showed up in games by the same devs (System Shock 2 due to being a sequel, BioShock due to being same devs as SS2, Dishonored and Deus Ex due to former SS1 devs) and then other games began doing it.
But initially it was a reference to Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.
Not true, the door code to their studio was 0451, the book matching it was a coincidence
At the end when James finds Mary just before the last battle... The subtitles her name changes from Mary to Maria.
Detail 10, the monsters know who the real monster is.
My theory is that since the monsters are the manifestations of James Guilt and were aggresive as if they are trying to make him remember. Once James remembers the truth, they stop or feel weak since their purpose is over.
"why did you kill me?"it's in the og too
I’m currently writing a review for the game at the moment and your videos have helped me find so much more than I ever noticed my first time round, I’ll be sure to give you props for all the amazing finds 🙌 the one at 2:56 I noticed at the end of my playthrough and thought it was a genius touch !
If you save the game with Maria, she will ask James :"something wrong?" and James replies :"No it's fine."... The same thing happens in Bliss ending with Mary:"honey? did something happen?" and James:"no it's fine. everything's fine." and both the Bliss ending and save game screen show that We can see James from a place outside his world.
I was so mad and happy the bathroom jumpscare was still there lol it scared the hell out of me in my playthrough
4:52 James: oh look cool key Maria: James help me
I like to think when James learns the truth, the town has no material to work with anymore hence why the enemies stop attacking or are just reused ones.
Exactly. The monsters are like his Guilt or Darkness personified and they were so aggresive as if they are trying to make James remember. Once he does, they don't have a purpose anymore so they feel weak.
@@daokoxd1145 That's why Pyramid Head kills itself at the end of the boss battle. James doesn't need them anymore.
Most corpses in town are actually james u can see it from the clothing
1:11 that's actually kind of cute
Feminism at its finest
They're nurse for a reason 😂
@ the original comment, what???
@ the first response, what?????
@ the second response, what??
In detail 5 at 1:35, bellow Robbie the Rabbit's easter egg, there is also the "Three Peaks Tours" which is probably a nod to the Twin Peaks TV show (the logo is very similar to Twin Peaks Sheriff Department).
Good catch! The creators of Silent Hill were undeniably influenced by Twin Peaks.
@@daftcruz as well as a square sticker of the red with black zig-zag pattern from the red room’s floor, right next to it!
His aim is shaking when he fights Eddie because he's hesitant to shoot a human person
omg im so ashamed. ive been a silent hill fan since i was 12 (im 35 now), and one thing you said made me realise something i never did. when you said the scene in the bathroom (in the beginning of the game) was James looking at his hand as he just killed his wife, I was still under the impression he killed her 3 years ago. Where in fact (correct me if im wrong) she's been suffering with the disease for 3 years and him going to Silent Hill, he just killed her before going there. And her body is at the back seat. And he went through all that, to finally go back to the car, sit inside, look at her corpse, and then kill himself... I never realise this till you mentioned that beginning scene O.O my mind is blown. and no wonder laura said she just met marry few days ago or whatever. it makes sense now...
James does not kill himself. If you got the 'water' ending, that's not the default/canon one. I've consulted various wikis and the canon ending is the 'Leave' one, where James and Laura leave silent hill together, James possibly adopting her later on as she is an orphan.
@@indonesiansasquatch4926 Masahiro Ito said there's no canon ending.
She got the disease 3 years ago, James subconscious considers that to be the moment she died.
Yea I always thought he was lying to himself when his wife died 3 when actuality he kill here like a few hours before he arrived in silent hill. That is how I interpreted it considering how delusional James is.
It actually makes Maria along with the new added ending, make the game a lot more interesting, since if Mary's body is in the back seat and a new added ending is about using the town to bring her back to life, it adds a almost ironic but sad twist to Maria's character as she was born from this wish to have Mary back and is even James ideal version of Mary, shows off more leg, more flirtatious and forward, and considering in the og game you play as her for a side story, my guess is while not exactly a human by traditional means, she is still a living sentient being almost like Cheryl was from SH 1, more then just a creation of the town and a person in their own right, but was still rejected over the wife he himself killed, not to mention also then killed by James herself.
A really cool detail i found was when you are in the brookhaven hospital otherworld, if you go to room C5 you can hear marias breathing and her heartbeat. Maria isnt actually there in the room with you, but she is in the real world resting as you look for laura. no idea what this could mean, could just be a cool little hint but it only happens in room C5 and stops as soon as you leave the room.
she's in the fog world*
the real world is just the town being all business as usual
@@thenicobossy yeah mb i couldnt think of what to call it lol
Think you’ll make a video with all the flashbacks in the game and compare them to the original?
Working on it!
It'll be a 20 part series 😆
Why do nurses don't attack when Maria is present?
Because the nurses cared for her while she was alive.
I think its more of a video game logic. Kind of like a save room, enemies dont really pass it, but if they do they just leave.
Probably because the room is considered a non-hostile zone where the player is safe from danger
@@chinpallatea8007 Most likely this. Probably to stop any unwanted interactions or funky behaviour between the nurses and maria. Likely easier to just prevent the nurses from entering the room than to specifically set up behaviour for that one particular instance.
Maria is Mary. Just in a more sexual form.
The nurses cared for Mary when she had cancer (it’s implied that’s what she had. Likely metastatic lung cancer). The nurses cared for Mary and since Maria is Mary, it makes sense why the nurses won’t attack her
Please make a video about all the Mary's sobbing we hear throughout the game
Her sobbing and heavy breathing behind James all throughout the game. Especially at unexpected times too. It’s quite interesting.
@@celes42017Yeah you hear it in the town at night
Another : Angela's nails are bitten .
Detail number 9: Maria asks James WHY she killed him, not if he did.
I don't regret buying the digital deluxe!
Theres a deluxe?
@@joshuagraham2843Yes, that’s how people got early access on Friday (I did). And it comes with the digital art book, soundtrack and Pyramid Head pizza box mask, Mira the Dog mask, and Robbie the Rabbit mask.
Me neither, i bought the full package to even play it 48 hours before and didn't regret it for a second, I did it because I wanted to send a message to KONAMI that people care about the game, and on reddit I saw that a lot of other people did so, incredible.
I think there are references to all the mainline games up to Origins. I haven't played enough of Downpour to know if there was anything from that, but one of the paintings in the game is the house from Silent Hill 1. There is an apartment with chained doors, representing 4. There is also a semi truck in the game. Its not the same nor does it have a payload, but it is the only semi truck in the game and I think its a nod to Origins.
There are references to Walter Sullivan, the central character in 4, as well. His gravestone and a newspaper about the twins he killed, at least one more I'm forgetting I think.
The bathroom jumpscare made me go "OH FUCK YOU I REMEMBER THAT!" lmao
Another that I'm unsure if it's a mistake or like the guilt one, Mary's letter to Laura says she wanted to adopt her on the page but when you read it it changes the wording and even adds an extra sentence. Noticed it last night when I finally beat it.
@@MaRaMa-ARTZ good catch, haven’t heard anyone mention this yet. I’m going to look for it on my third playthrough
This game has easily become the winner of horror games category in this year award, i wont go as far as GOTY of the year tho
i noticed detail 10 today on a playthrough, the way the nurse seems like shes about to attack and just stumbles over caught me by surprise, i remember joking saying... "did i fart or something?
In detail 9 it's actually "why did you kill me?" If it's supposed to be the exact same line from sh2 og.
I always thought the radio static from Mary was "Why did you kill me" instead of "Did you kill me". I imagine she knew it was him, considering he was the only person with her in her final moments and they had no other family in the home. It's cool to see other interpretations of it!
I never played the OG but I just finished the game 3 days ago. And in detail 10 looks pretty neat to me
Heres a detail that no one has caught yet.
After you get the flashlite and look at the mannequin with Mary's clothes the mannequin is not centered like every other singke thing you insoect in the game, meaning they want you to look at what is past it at the vanity mirror.
Whats on the vanity mirror? And mannequin head, and the shadow is covering its mouth. Even though the nose is not overed i think ittis inplying James smothered his wife, OR that he silenced her verbal abuse because he killed her.
I thought the bathroom scream was originally in the 3rd game but I wasn't sure so every bathroom I walked in I was thinking is there gonna be a scream, then it happened and I still crapped my pants 😂
I never knew any game had a bathroom scream, it made me scream, I knew 3 had someone knock back in the stall.
Of all the details of this game, I love the multiple endings the best. That's truly how I feel like life is depending on the things you do and one of the more haunting aspects of the game to me personally. Wish this remake had a PT reference though.
So, have there been any good theories as to what happens in that last ending you show? Are we witnessing James in a loop? Is this what he experienced before the start of the game, and when the light leaves his eyes, he is yet again forgetting that he just killed her, and it's just his projection of her interacting with him - meantime as they've had confirmed by Konami Mary's body actually IS in that back seat? Are we witnessing James repeating the cycle? Or is there a better idea on it yet?
My head canon is that in the Stillness ending, James truly accepts what he did, which is why he hears Mary forgiving him and saying she’ll wait for him. So James will live on instead of driving off the cliff, waiting to hopefully reunite with his wife someday
Some say it's the "In Water" ending with just extra steps. Implying James is about to drive into the lake again.
@@jatabo1574 they are wrong)
The ending where James finds himself inside the recording is simply fantastic
Pablo Gato - "Gato" means cat. Maybe is a reference to Pet Cemetary, IDK
Tye stillness and in water ending are almost exactly 1-1 for James except the very end when he sees the letter instead of mary covered in the back seat. Stillness lets us see that convo WITH Mary.
I never knew the enemies actually gets weaker after you watch the tape, implying that his guilt is disappearing as he started to accept what he has done to Mary.
The way I see it is a bit different. Before that point, they were the monsters. But once James and the player realize the truth, they become scared of him...
James has become the scary monster...
@@misternuggets6604 man, this is why I LOVED the bathroom mirror scene...
James sees himself as an emotionless person, a monster who had just killed his loved ones.
0:28 They put Dobby in Silent Hill ? 😅
SPOILERS
after killing Eddie, another Pyramid Head appear, which represents James guilt of killing 2 humans
I love silent hill 2 for the details
2:19 this is not a detail. this is a feature in the unreal engine 5 to show off light tracking.
Pretty sure the 4th one isnt an easter egg. Just a boundary check for enemy entities to not be in "Safe Rooms". Notice how the enemy gets nudged out the room everytime it stumbles in from attacking outside
I could’ve saved so many bullets on those nurses if known they didn’t attack while with Maria.
The detail of Mary speaking to James on the radio is in the original
1:10 why the nurses don't attack?
Because Maria is sick in the room.
Because it is likely Maria was in control of everything
Pay attention dipshit
because the game code
Maria is their patient, and they think James will kill her just like they did to Mary.
STrange thing about the bugs. I had my flashlight off and they were still scampering about as if I had it on. Odd bug most likely.
The bathroom jumpscare was really unsettling for some reason
4:21 he didnt said he killed a human being, that sucks
instead of "Kill wife" you can spell "killl mary" too, and on both you can spell mary
Also the time on all the clock from puzzle to everything in the game is always the same forgot the exact time but im assuming thats Mary’s time of death.
James looks more tired during his journey through Silent Hill.
1:48 the man who survived silent hill
So thats where bob went. From tekken to die in silent hill
The monster doesnt attack him anymore cause he is also a monster now that he knows the truth
does it mean that james is trapped in silent hill forever for doing bad things? like a theory that after james kill his wife he also commit suicide then from there he brought to hell (silent hill)
like no matter how you play the game there is no end (looping the game like new game +)
4:42 me hubiese gustado que fuese 04515 (OASIS) 😂
Great, but I really need to sleep now. 😂
why weren't the enemies attacking James after learning the truth?
Another detail: James progressively gets paler and also gets bags under his eyes, very noticeable in the last section of the game.
0:30 Tony Soprano?
The monster probably got weaker because James now rembers he killed mary so the monsters are getting weakee and less aggressive because the purpose was to make james remember
Ewald Springs
oh damn...
Detail 15 is now the cannon ending. I don't care what anyone says.
How did I miss the bathroom jump scare? Do you have to try to open that door multiple times? Cuz I only tried once, and expected to hear a scream but never did.
The drowning is the developers end that they like só its the real ending sad but true hending
Either James doesn't know the correct way to hold a gun, or the devs don't know the correct way to hold a gun. Could go either way on that one.
You mean because he always have the index finger on the trigger? Maybe is a detail, remember he's a civial without any background on gun management, could be that
I mean you most likely don’t know how to hold a gun either so kindly stfu and enjoy the game ❤😊
He's a normal civillians not trained soldiers like Snakes so make sense
@@CrolandHalfLife You don't know that. There is no background of James, and he is wearing a M65 Field Jacket...
It’s a video game
1:58 wait...i thought he was at war service in OG?
No he wasn't
you did not iclude the moans of monsters😶
I don't see the difference with aiming,
Can someone explain to me?
The crosshair is shaking
When aim to monster crosshair stay still but when aim to Eddie human crosshair shakes
Oh thank you.
To add on to this… The reason why his aim is shaky is because he’s afraid to kill Eddie (since he sees him as a good person). That's why it's more harder to control when shooting compared to the monsters you face.
James feels no remorse killing monsters, and thus his reticle is still and focused. But when he faces Eddie, his reticle shakes uncontrollably, because there's a different kind of fear and empathy when facing one of your own.
Being forced to kill Eddie is a big turning point in the story for James, because up to that point he only had to deal with actual monsters. But now he's faced with a human being, a horribly damaged one who was relentlessly bullied until he decided murder was the only answer left, and started finding pleasure in it, be it humans or innocent animals. His character is a fascinating talking point, because it helps kind of draw a line between him and James, and how murder has affected and become a part of both of them in different ways.
I don't understand the mgs reference
It says "Metal Gear"
Probably not a refference, at this point gamers see easter eggs everywhere
There’s 6-8 endings not 2.
There are only 3 enemy types in whole game copy/pasted 450x.. maybe next time less focus on details and more on actual game?
Enjoying this game thoroughly, I'm hyper sensitive to "modern audience" crap and happy to say 15 hours in no trace of it👍 good job bloober and Konami.
Red flag when people use terms modern audience, woke or dei. Usually a sign when people like you have shitty views.
@@Luna-pk7gz You definitely seem well-adjusted and thoughtful
My new theory about SH2 is that James killed his wife recently, then he took some hard-core drugs, so everything that happened in the game was just hallucination (including every side character). Then, after he watched the recording the effects wore off and he became really sad. Before he left the hotel room he used the drugs again, so he was tripping balls once more 😂
No, the events of the game are not a hallucination. You might be confused if you never played any of the original games in the series, but Silent Hill is a real place, with real monsters, and everything that happens is real for every character in it. Laura is the only character who can’t see anything because the town has no influence over her, likely because she’s a child and feels no guilt. The only “fake” characters are the towns version of Mary and Maria.
You're right about James killing his wife recently, you're wrong about everything else.
@pathetic2399
I know. I didn't mean this seriously. I just wanted highlight how people obsess over SH2. They even perceive flaws in the game as some kind of genius move from the creators. I've seen so many out there theories with little to no evidence to back it up. Or people claiming to know which ending is canon, even though the devs said that there's no defenitive ending.
Hey.
Hey yourself.
@@falconeshield then get out of here.
Rude. I just said hi back. @@justvincent2083
@@falconeshield K
Sup bro
Isn’t Maria Alessa Gillespies mom?
huh? no, that's Dahlia Gillespie.
Maria is a manifestation of James's desires, sexual frustration and guilt.
You missed the secrets like how they cut out Maria actually being shown getting stabbed for no other reason than woke gaming developers now think you cannot show violence towards women…however for men it’s all bets off because they only know double standards. Then the absurd removal of James suffocating Maria when she was sick…like completely, it’s so ridiculous. They should have had a mode with all the normal stuff being included that could be labeled “non pussy mode” and the regular woke mode as “pathetic ‘modern audience’ mode”
Bros making problems up, go to school 30yr old, theres bigger problems
they literally show them dying and they show how James puts the pillow in her head, how she grabs his arms and suffocates. They added the sound that was censored from the og... y'all are making up problems
@@ShockerTopper What do you mean “removal of James suffocating Maria when she was sick”? Can’t tell if you’re being genuine here or false-flagging, the only real change made in that direction I could see was their removing Mary’s apology to James at the end, and arguably the design change. What the fuck are you talking about
Thats some nuclear grade brainrot you got there buddy. The whole game is violence towards women including all the monsters. We literally see Maria get stabbed in the elevator scene with the blade through her chest and blood everywhere, and we literally see James suffocating his wife. Have you been playing with your eyes closed or have you been fed second hand ragebait videos and know nothing about the actual game? LMAO 💀💀
There's literally nothing amazing about this 6/10 mid action game other than the visuals...
Nice opinion, I’m just gonna assume you grew up more with resident evil and expected this to be like that… based on that comment alone, you haven’t played the game and you’re most likely disappointed this was a psychological horror mystery compared to a constant action horror game like RE.
@@randomContentHere93228he’s just a troll
@@ChristoBuddy "You" are a troll fanboy with low standards.
@@randomContentHere93228 You assumed wrong then fanboy, i played and finished it on hard, only 7 deaths, leave ending and i explored a lot all the time, there's a fight in almost every corner of the map and there's no horror whatsoever, not even the psychological one, i played more videogames in my life than you can ever dream of playing lol, this isn't Silent Hill and yes it's an action game, you have no clue what you are talking about.
@@Daniel-Rain-YT when you google silent hill 2 remake it says otherwise let me know.
“Hey don’t you think I’d look good in the one? In a different world if bearing it but the woke creators of this game didn’t want to have me in the outfit that makes the most sense for my character” - Maria
“Wait…what did you just say?” - James
“Uh I have no idea” Maria
lol
You seem like a sad individual...
@@jimmybonez7528sad anymore, not really. Not a game it seems that gets released now without someone screaming it's woke, they think everything is woke now.
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 What's funny is one of the bosses is literally in the image of someone being abssed in a bed and somehow these people delude themselves into thinking it's "censored"