Tray Deee Disagrees with Special Ed Saying NWA Brought Destruction to Hip-Hop (Part 19)
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Tray Deee refuted Special Ed's claim that N.W.A. brought destruction to hip-hop, arguing instead that the group heightened the genre's prominence and brought global awareness to life in Los Angeles County. Tray Deee commended N.W.A. for their ability to articulate and entertain with the harsh realities of L.A. life, noting that their storytelling resonated globally. He believes they exposed critical issues like police conduct that might have remained unnoticed otherwise, also setting a distinctive dress code for West Coast artists. While recognizing Special Ed’s viewpoint, Tray Deee suggested that such a statement might have been for attention, emphasizing that everyone's opinion in hip-hop has its place. - บันเทิง
Tray Deee always circumspect and cautious with his answers, never feeds into drama
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Because he's not with the theatrics!
I grew up in a suburban area in MI. I know for a FACT that after NWA came out, gangs popped up all over the city and the surrounding areas. Everybody thought they were tough, started drinking OE & wearing Raiders & LA Kings gear & EVERYBODY was started smoking weed, even nerds. I’d be lying if I said NWA didn’t make that look cool to us. If you agree with Special Ed that doesn’t mean you hate NWA, cause I loved em. But let’s stop lyin about this…they did encourage negative activity.
Special Ed said that Wu-Tang was good for the kids. They promoted smoking weed and the gangster drug dealer lifestyle as well but just from a New York experience.
You are a suburban cornball. This is exactly what we’re talking about. You and your friends were bored, cuz suburbs are BORING. I have never ever wanted to live there. I never listened to NWA growing up and neither did anyone I know who got into trouble. You wannabes act like everyone is impressionable and bored like you. Curtis mayfield was singing about the same stuff in the 70s. Funk music has similar themes. I can tell you have no connection to the culture
Bingo💯
@@jamelbow5248they talked about it but did they glorify it🤔
@@davruck1Music is very powerful to the human body and mind, it can be used as a weapon of destruction if used in the wrong way and the people that run the record labels knows that that's why they promote gangsta rap. When rappers glorify crimes in their music it influences youths to get involved in criminal activities and turn gangsters and thugs expecially those that come from a poor household without much guidance from their parents because in the rap songs robbing, killing, selling drugs, etc is glorified and seen as something cool.
Love when rappers from different coasts can quote lyrics from rappers in a different area. Respect
I luv Tray Dee interviews. He is well-rounded intelligent brother.
Living on both coast. It was more influence than destruction.
The difference between tha LAnd and everywhere else is gangbangn is a LIFESTYLE! WE talkin 4 or 5 generations already alone.
A very retarded lifesytle homie
The Influence lead to destruction. Now everybody wants to do the $hit LA do, which was an overall negative impact on the culture as a whole.
It influenced destruction..
That's Ed point😂
So because ignorance is the way of “the land “ it should continue?
the popularity of gangsta rap definitely lead to destruction. the same way you see little girls online being influenced by sexy red, cardi b, meg, nicki, trying to twerk and dress proactively on instagram, reciting their lyrics and acting like little thots, is the same influence gangsta rap had on America where you suddenly started seeing crip and blood gangs nationwide in the mid 90s. u cant tell me the popularity of West Coast gangsta rap and G-funk had Zero influence in that. they made that shit fashionable.
even Tray dee told the story of how some fan from Japan or whatever coming to his block wanting to be put on and now he serving a life sentence. u even have crips in vietnam now. not saying it's a good or bad thing, just speaking the truth
The homey Tray deee speaks the truth on facts 👍👍👍
But special ed has no proglem with drug kingpin hiphop from NY?
exactly ..dat fool is a hypocrite.
His name is special ed for a reason
The thing there was no drug kingpin hip hop out there from NY at least not to the extent it would become until NWA and SOC came out, and that was S.E.'s point That's what triggered the hh artists from different regions to put their own localized spin on their ganster cultures. And in the hh industry NWA was the catalyst for that and that gangster element became the more dominant form of HH being that it became where the money was in the industry. And due to HH's influence it spread further into the communities and caused those lifestyles that were already there to magnify in communities where violence was already a problem and into some where it had not previously
No one was on NWA level. Only Run DMC. They weren't on that Kingpin rap. That was later with groups like Wu n Biggie. East Coast had alot of fun rap in our Hip Hop. West Coast Hip Hop was NWA King T n Ice T, Gangsta Rap
I think Vlad was looking for a different type of answer. Salute to Tray Deee for keeping it positive!
Of course he would disagree..he affiliates with the same los angeles county/ city culture that they rapped about lol
Special Ed just mad that NWA changed the game to Gangsta shit, and he fell off. All that soft shit was done, similar to DMX getting rid of those shiny suits!!
DMX didn't wear a shiny suit
@@ceeIoc duh, he got rid of em 🤦🏾♂️ did u read? Of course not, Trump supporter
@@thefreakyrobber0 he never wore a shiny suit you dweeb
Dmx would've gotten rid of studi0gayster rappers like Tupac too 😂
@@thefreakyrobber0dmx > 2Pac
I disagree with Tray Dee.
He is correct about west coast popularizing gang nonsense!
Really because if i recall, it was that lame ass Tim Dog who was all in his feelings that dissed the west coast first because his weak ass got turned down from a record deal in LA so the west responded, blame the Bronx for that
The west didn’t do nothing. Gangs were in Chicago, NY and other cities. Other regions were fascinated with the Westcoast life style that’s why everyone in the 90’s was rocking dickies, chucks and baggy clothes in general.
Were you a gang member? Are you a sociologist?
Really, because I was under the impression that Tim Dogg from the bronx started this whole East Coast west coast rivalry when he made that diss trac about Compton, if his lame ass didn't come at the west coast like that then it might have been a different scenario
@@donmegadonmega3533get tf outta here with your weird , hating azz . Real sick if you nonblack trolls and weirdos , leaving the same old comments over and over and it's lies as well .
Blame the record companies & the higher ups who decided to promote & capitalize off Gangsta music
Blame all of them because these sellout rappers new what they were signing up for and still agreed to promote criminality through their music that is destroying alot of lives.
Dopeman, and Fvck the Police are social conscious songs. To comparmentalize NWA into “gangsta rap” is a House Nigga mindset. The Media called it that, NWA never wore blue, never said cuz. It was reality rap, if a square never lived in an l.a. county ghetto, they’ll allow the white media to teach them about poor black ppl, because they cant relate to it
Those are grown men making music.. they are to blame
NWA made it popular
Crack, Gangsta Rap, and HIV/A.I.D.S all hit around the same time....by design.
Facts 😮👍
How can anyone disagree with that statement? Ever since then no one wanted to hear positive shit anymore and the record labels only wanted you if you rapped about the destructive lifestyle that gang banging brought, an effect and practice that is still felt to this day! That statement is irrefutable!
It def did start off the destructiin
Not hardly true.......not even close
Nah
Exactly!
Of course he disagrees. He was part of the problem. Gangsta rap promoted gang culture all over the world. Just like it promotes women being HOS today. They use musics to influence our people.
Crack did the destruction not gangsta rap
THANK YOU!!!
Half of generation of black and brown people destruction..
BOTH brought destruction!!!
Rap in general bought destruction to hip hop
So did Mobb Deep, Biggie, Big Pun, Fa Joe , Oynx etc then, they all rapped about the same shit, only NY didn't speak out about the police
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That is nothing to be proud of my gee , that fact of the matter is we all a part and now as elder statesmen we just have to be accountable moving forward
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Special Ed was correct. Hip Hop tanked and became detrimental when NWA came into the picture.
well Ed probably got misunderstood as one of those old school New York rappers that's hating on Westcoast music however the NWA did made the gangster lifestyle look cool
What sense does it make to blame gangsta rap for all the crime & violence in the world while ignoring action & horror movies?
Rapiers are t acting.. they’re trying to tell the world who they are.. big difference
Your comment doesn't make sense! It is overly dramatic and inaccurate.
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🗣️IT MOST DEFINITELY IS NOT NWA’S FAULT. NWA WAS JUST EXPRESSING THEIR REALITY. ITS THE RECORDING COMPANIES FAULT FOR TELLING ARTIST “HEY, U HAVE TO GIVE US “GANGSTER SHIT” OR WE NOT SIGNING U.”
None of what they talked about was their reality.. none of them were gangsters
That’s 100 percent right
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Then don't tune in.
Then don't tune in.
Super Bowl is the biggest stage in the world Vlad
The fifa World Cup is way bigger
Special Ed Was right
Special Ed’s latest interview was everything to me
NWA was the first real gangsta group in hip hop community
I agree with tray dee about nwa didn't create destruction.the gang banging been doing their thang since the late 60 way before NWA came out
Think this may be the first time I disagree with big tray dee, although I definitely understand the points he made.
Tray dee tell ‘em when the westcoast jumped in rap became a brand to recon with
The west coast was the most imitated in the 90's. But the east was the most for the longest but now its the South.
The crack era was supplemented by the NWA era to anchor in the fuckery for generations to come
People be in denial about rap music being destructive. LA rap music basically came in and made it seem okay and cool to see crime, death and destruction everywhere. Nobody listened to Dre or MC Eight and thought I want to be scientist or an engineer.
West coast guys always biased on this topic 😂😂😂😂
Other than bloods and crips no one cares about LA
Special Ed said NWA brought destruction but Wu Tang is for the kids lol now who's being bias
@@tj5579 I hear u. NWA definitely made a certain element of street life mainstream and had people of all kinds of backgrounds influenced by it.
Just tell it like it is Special ED was just Hating😂 Stop being Respectful Hip Hop Didn’t Stop after NWA it kept going Strong so how in the hell did it bring Destruction the Destruction that came was Special Ed’s Music Career
Ed was just trying to go viral, and he failed.
He stated same shit a lot of people feel. Stfu
"I'm the idol, the highest title, numero uno, I'm not a Puerto Rican, but I'm pressin so that you know......."
Special Ed,
"I got it made"
Special ed is a legend. But the issue i have with him is he addressed only nwa, but none of the people in newyork, especially Puffy. Nwa didnt make puffy make pink cocaine, have fruit parties, and beat up women.
NWA came out way before brodie
That's not the point the point is that NWA and alot of other rappers after them agreed to sellout their own people and promote violence and criminal activities through their music that got alot of blacks k*lled and in prison.
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Special Ed also said that “Wu-Tang was good for the kids.” What!!! Wu-Tang was East Coast gangster rap. They may have been even more gangster than N.W.A. Special Ed was speaking from his NY bias and just sounded ridiculous with that.
Why do you think that there are Bloods and Crips on the East Coast? Newsflash: it isn't because of Wu Tang.
People want to act like hip hop was all sunshine and rainbows before NWA came out.
Nobody ever singles out Kool G. Rap for the fact that if he had been from California his music would’ve been considered gangster rap. If we gone call out people call all of them out or not at all. Special Ed’s statement is nothing but the same old veiled jealousy of other regions for taking the shine away from New York.
"Think, just blink, and I'll make a million rhymes, now imagine if you blinked, a million times, dam I'd be paid, I got it made.........."
Special Ed
"I got it made"
Unk always droppin knowledge
Best answer ✌🏽
3:09 I’m sorry, but a Russian writing a book on American hip-hop…. Every day I listen to Vlad I get more more terrified.
West coast rappers think they they everything
Tray-Dee was tap dancing like a muhhf***a around that question. If u not from LA, you won't know NWA is like the law for the streets out there. Truth be told, Special Ed went gangsta when he was with the Crooklyn Dodgers crew.
I love how Tray dee hears some straight up bs but never reacts until Vlad asks him how he feel about that? I could learn a lot from just that! Never react too fast let the person talking finish their statement then proceed to verbally whip ass with fact after fact😂
Vlad agreed with Ed and said it numerous times on here, but now he's trying to act like he didn't agree with NWA destroying hip hop !
I thought I was the only one who noticed that
Most gangster rappers aren't gangster that's the crazy part about it
"I went from Khakis to Guess, braids to a fade. I'm not Special Ed, but I Had It Made..."
“PSK what does it mean?…”
NWA and Luke brought freedom to hip hop.
Neva Go Bacc was the only Ed song I loved
Big Tray Dee! fax
When I heard “always searching my car looking for the product” (FThe Police) a police officer was in my car searching for drugs. I was shocked, born in Brooklyn, that police was doing that all the way in sunny California. What came first, the experience or rappers talking about the experience? Rap don’t dictate the culture, rappers talk and live the culture NWA and all urban youth rap about the culture whether they live it or is right next to it. Drugs was rampant and we lived the affects of it. But the evil Special Ed talking about with the masses of youths living a life of crime and thugging was happening before and irregardless of any song. Music dates the time. The 60s the blues was talking liquor, coke, beating women, pimping etc. Yet you never hear people say the Blues created evil amongst its community. Nah, the blues came from the pain of the black community and not the other way around
Mobb Deep for me!!!! But Jay z, 2pac and Jeezy was that theme music 2 head to prison 4 myself!!! 100
Where was hiphop planned to be for it to be led down a road of destruction? That why I agree with Tray Dee without being biased because regardless i feel it was inevitable for us to interpret something and turn it into a negative.But i dont regret a single thing about hip-hop rt
Thats Ed's opinion in it thats all. The destruction or reality of the situation was already there.NWA made a video book essentially about the life. The world read about it in books, saw it in cleaned up movies and heard stories but they showed it in the real life. If entertainment swings you to do something you where there already. Tray Dee is always cool and respectful.
NWA, didn't create the atmosphere that systemic racism birthed, which depleted our neighborhoods (projects, ghettos, etc...), of opportunities. You grow in and with the environment around you. Misdirected understanding, coupled with anemic research, will lead you to place blame on what and who the system wants you to blame.
That is complete nonsense!
@onceagain6184 , the nonsense is that you have no knowledge on what has happened and what is happening...
@@craigjoseph9374 🤣 Tell that bs to the democrats as they give taxpayer resources to migrants!
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The wrong people in the right positions, brought destruction to hip hop and their still killing our music while rock n roll stills roll with no special police force for their genre
Shout out to trae dee. Them dudes rapping about the environment of there time. They didn't create that world. This ain't the sims
You know what’s crazy back then I’m being honest from my point of view west coast was wack musically back then you would of never been saying all these things back then lol you would of got bombed on snoop put the west on his back not even Tupac alone couldn’t do it if you turned on the radio you barely heard their music in comparison just keeping it real 🤧
sounding like a real clown. foh w yo lame azz lmaoo
We were like what the south been the last 15 years💯good beats and hooks but real lyrical dudes like crooked I are far in between from the 90’s
Crack and the sandanistas
Gangsta rap didn't bring destruction to hip hop,that naritive came from people who had a negative opinion about rap music in general. But really hip hop bring more truth than the world news.
NWA brought destruction to Ed's carreer.
Snoop did more damage than NwA...
I fully disagree N.W.A was rapping about what was going on around cali at that time n they caught conflict for it n tha police didn't like it n plus they was saying fk tha police n tha Fed's n my uncle n cousins loved em, I grow up n started listening to em myself n they was tha 💩 I condone what they was talking about. N. W. A was america's most wanted at that time with tha police n tha Fed's but tha fans n supporters loved em. LONG LIVE EAZY n may his legacy live on he put N. W. A on wit tha help of dre n cube
I disagree with Special Ed because New York just as bad period !
Ok Miss.
Wouldnt it be womderdul if the bloods and crips actually did what they started out to be, an organization that brought empowerment to their communities,help black people fight against racism and helped their communities fight for equality and fight against police corruption....now that would help, nothing else they did matters if all these communities now are a shit show and filled with crime and drugs
Gangs were never started to protect their communities. That is a myth!
U cant take tethers serious they hate fba
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