chris walls Thanks Chris, just did not want to answer another girl that way...U'd think we girls need to stick together...after all we were under the thumb for a while...but she already forgot...didn't she? Maybe she would love to go back to the days of kitchen-barefoot and pregnant? Who knows... some women probably do... sad huh?
I am a man and I have been attracted to to men but I would never say I battled it... the idea of it sound so utterly alien as if it honestly game from another planet. It is combine that with the fact it is cruel and there is no better definition of inhumane. It is a literal lack of humanity and kindness.
" and they shall know you by your love" fortunately there are many many Christians who love and respect thier gay brothers and sisters and can be found .
DarnJones YOU are cherry picking. Read John 7:24. Jesus actually tells us to judge. And your vocabulary reveals that you are NOT a Christian. You are a reprobate and totally disrespectful.
Larz Gustafsson I love how you delete a post as not to hear a reply.... Wrong! - I am not a reprobate due to the fact that we would need to agree on the fact that I am destined for damnation. I would have to believe that this was actually an option when I die. Right! - I am no longer a Christian. I spent 35 yrs in this garbage and actually sat under Damon Thompson and his teaching. Back and forth we could go…….
I did not exactly choose to be straight, but I chose to follow the Word of God. The choice of not being gay, not cursing, not looking to pornography, not being selfish, etc. are what come after.
I am a child of the world and learns what the world teaches me through Science, Math, English, Reading Comprehension, History, and so on. I have stopped learning about the world through a moldy old book and actually believing that it is still same way it was 2500+ years ago. I've gotten with the times and adjust to society accordingly. I am gay, and I am proud of being the way I am. You nor anyone else will change that. I will deal with the consequences (if any) on judgement day, capiche?
I love when the truth is preached! That's what a minister is called to do and Damon Thompson preaches the truth! Praise the Lord for him and all preachers that are still not afraid to preach the truth even if it makes them unpopular.
When you can give irrefutable concrete evidence as to who wrote this book and prove it's just not babble written by some iron age human, then you can discuss the proposed morality found in this book which you christians so blindly and hatefully try to impose on others.
My dad is fucking awesome and has always supported me in everything I do. He is my role model in many ways - he's comfortable in his heterosexuality, he's extremely intelligent (PhD in physics), and he's active and creative. He inspired me to get my PhD, he loves and accepts my husband, and he actually paid for my gay wedding.
Does anyone have a link or the FULL video of the 'outting service'? They deleted the original video and Im needing to show this off! MidweekPolitics, can you post the rest of the video???
by time. the whole book is almost 2000 years old and its writing first took place almost 4000 years ago. but the Bible is still used by many as their guide to living and they have hope. and thank you for the compliment.
The problem with marriage equality is that there is no problem. Here are some of the problems associated with faith based hate: Sorry, Sweetheart, but supporting APARTHEID is the very definition of HATE. To treat a fellow citizen as less than equal IS hate. To send a fellow citizen to the back of the bus (just BECAUSE) is hate. Segregation is HATE. Anti-gay discrimination is hate. - You have no argument and no "out". Embrace your bigotry or be ashamed of it. You can't have it both way. And PALEEZE stop hiding YOUR hate behind a defenseless imaginary ghost in the sky, THAT excuse is getting really BOOOORING!
I am not one of those individuals who ultimately chose to be gay because I knew what I wanted before I even hit puberty. I knew what I wanted before I was even old enough for my mother to give me the "talk" about gender differences and making babies. So, to say that a sexually immature child who is completely oblivious to the difference between boys and girls on the outside chose to be gay is an insult as well. Saying to any gay person that they chose to be hated by all and be tormented is an
TOW: "Are you comparing homosexuality to murder? The two are not the same." Oh, really? If you're a homosexual male who JUST HAPPENS to carry HIV/AIDS and you deliberately infect another partner by engaging in unprotected sex with him, then YES -- you are a murderer. And it doesn't matter whether or not the other was a bugchaser. Murder is murder, whether or not the victim wants to die. Furthermore, anyone who advocates death in ANY FORM is nothing more than a killer in training. --FJ
RIZZO: "So if i was born more inclined to be violent, It's ok for me to kill someone?" TOW: "Are you comparing homosexuality to murder? The two are not the same." >> Well, let's put it in perspective, Nate. If you declare that CONSCIOUS, CHOSEN BEHAVIORS are "genetic", then you must expect your argument to be consistent in context. Therefore, if you homosexuality can be genetic, why shouldn't the same apply for murder, rape, violence, pyromania or eating plastic? --The Final Justice
O I'm free sir by being what God intended me to be. A kind hearted,compassionate,non judgemental,loyal,tolerant gay guy named Nate who has just as close relationship with God as any straight Christian.I take my gift and my love share it with the world and agree to disagree with others who think otherwise.This is my story.Love You all and God Bless!!!
"gay men become gay because they did not have a strong heterosexual male in their life to raise them" Everytime I hear people say that about gay males, I just want to say "Pff try telling that my dad who is like straighter than an arrow"
"Spiritual father...." - to young males. Where have we JUST seen this? Hint: the out-of-court settlement was for a cool $25 million. This is another train wreck waiting to happen. Mr. Pittman, you have done a great thing in exposing this junk. Keep on keepin' on.
So does that mean if somebody is sterile (not by choice), it's wrong for them to be in a relationship and it's wrong for them to be the way they are even though there is not a single thing they can do about it?
I don't think it's a homophobic cult. We are just taught that it is not right but should not look to a gay person with disgust that they would be disgusted with us. Although I came from a conservative Christian family from Asia, absorbing a lot of western culture made me rather comfortable with homosexual attitude, but I know still homosexual relationship isn't right.
I stress that born gay/homosexual and born with stronger homosexual tendencies are two different things. That being said you can also conclude that no one is born straight/heterosexual either. Even people who call themselves straight at one point might have attraction to same sex. The difference between the people who call themselves gay is that they have stronger tendencies to be and to chose to be gay.
I confronted my gay demon and all I can say is we have never been happier,our eyes met and it was love at first sight.my deamon(mike) to you all is filthy,so thanks to the pastor forgetting us together because what we get up to in the bed room would make any pastor insane with jealously.
Wait, I feel that my previous response was a little lackluster. Sure, some people do choose to be gay and then go back to women (Bisexuals), but to say that the ones who have hated themselves in fear of being abused, rejected, neglected, ostracized, tormented, and hated is illogical. Saying that they chose to be gay is an insult to the ones who have suffered enough and ultimately ended their own lives because they couldn't take the abuse that society was putting them through.......
I actually forgot what is actually in this video. purposely calling gay people "queers" is something I wouldn't do, nor sending hate messages or negative allusions, but that has been a problem in many churches that are trying to embrace LGBT people to come to know Christ and to know that it isn't right according to the Maker of the world.
The environment isn't homo-erotic, they are clearing out the confusion in sexuality, and they are comfortable with being close to one another, hugging etc. because they know it is not in a sexual way. Also though the church is not being loving in their approach to homosexuality, they are not approaching it from a Christ like perspective, it must be made known that it is wrong, but the people must still be loved. This is not representative of all Christians, just making sure that is clear.
I wish that Christians would live a life of loving the Lord and being an example of joy and peace to others without pointing fingers and telling other people how to live their life. If you are a Christian and have homosexual people in your life, be an example of God's grace to them and pray for them. God knows how to reach the hearts of His children. He loves gay people just as much as He loves straight people. We are all wonderfully and fearfully made.
Funny, His biography says that he was not in ties with religion whatsoever, and it most definitely DOES NOT say he was a bible scholar. Please, tell me where you pulled that information from with links. Please and thank you
Right, First off. Let me tell you that I'm sorry for the insults. I become flustered when I'm passively insulted. Second, Like I said. No, I'm already finished with the bible. It has put me through too much emotional torment until I finally accepted myself for who I am. I'd rather not open it back up. Kthx
I know someone who has been married for 15 years, was a renouned pastor who had/has rage issues and therefore family issues because he has been oppressing himself from being himself his whole life. he is not a pastor anymore but is still a christian, still married with two adopted kids and probably as miserable as ever because he is still in denial.being gay is not a disease or a demon people. you are born gay. and it didn't have in just the past 20-30 years, it has always been so.look it up.
The content of the Bible does not change through time. Any meaning alteration in the Bible is a serious offense. And all the English Bibles whether it's KJV from the 1611 or all the modern English Bibles, and all translation all over the world are translated from the Hebrew, Aramaic, Syriac Peshitta, Greek, and Latin text. They are never irrelevant.
I do know that not everyone is Christian, and in fact above the exact response when I argue with somebody of non-Christian with the fact that reproduction is by one man and one woman cleave together, and that and technically everybody might and might not be born gay. Homosexual activity and same-sex attraction have existed since (and common in) the days of ancient Rome and Greece, but doesn't mean they're (born) gay or chose to be gay as a sexual preference.
This is actually FRIGHTENING, really, but David did an excellent interview with Mr Pittman, who is a brave, young man. I detest how these religious zealots always pull the Sarah Palin victimization meme to defend themselves. Again, I have to compliment both of these participants in the interview, both for their inquisitiveness, circumspection, and healthy skepticism. Going to want to learn more about this form of religious prosecution and more about Ashton, too, and his courageous investigation
this part of the conversation was not my reply to you so what I have been doing is just replying to you, not trolling, as what TH-cam comments should be contained with. and I can say this because beside research I had those "feelings" as well. We embrace homosexuals to know the love of God, but if we already look to them in disgust (homophobia), we are already lost.
Nope. They're not born with them. People are born with differences in sexual hormone production, sexual tendencies etc but they choose their own sexual orientation, they define their own identity.
"you're not going to hell for being gay, you're going to hell because you're sinning and you don't have a personal savior." You're also judging me by saying I don't have a personal savior. Tell me, How would you know that when you have no clue who I am to begin with? Did you come to that conclusion when I said I was gay? Funny, that's juding and I quote the most famous bible quote OF ALL "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" You are not without sin, so you shouldn't pass judgement
Hello, I Love everyone, but above that I Love Gods word because it Sets You Free!!! This is for all Christians!! Teach the Truth!!! Teach Freedom!!! 1 Corinthians 6:7-12 New Living Translation (NLT) 7 Even to have such lawsuits with one another is a defeat for you. Why not just accept the injustice and leave it at that? Why not let yourselves be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves are the ones who do wrong and cheat even your fellow believers.[a] 9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. 11 Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
The word, "homosexual" is a translation from other words that didn't even mean what we know it to mean today. Good thing you didn't use the Leviticus quote. lol
Is that so bro... or are you just twisting the truth... because the word of God is the truth... it says let God be true and every man be a liar....somtimes we like to twist the truth to fit our lifestyle. .. I ve been there... but the word was never meant to fit out lifestyle but change our lifestyle through the power of Christ.... blessings
Chris Allman Nope, no twisting. I have no reason to twist. I'll leave that for a good chunk of christians out there. It was a direct translation....bro.
And thus we have understanding how some of the worst homophobes are gay themselves, unable to accept their own sexuality and assume the mantle of guilt that false religious doctrine and ignorance has placed on them. Thank you for exposing inbred homophobia. I hope and pray that some day you will be able to accept yourself for who you are, not for who others tell you that you should be.
While you are correct in your statement that sexuality is often something that is fluid and changes over the course of a person's life, it's worth pointing out that millions of same sex couples have perfectly healthy relationships.
we are all bisexual if we go by that definition, so I cannot answer your question because the definition of straight and other terms itself we do not agree.
AKRIFA: "Wow - you are very outspoken." >> Why, thank you, Akrifa. That I am. And that's my point. A REAL homophobe would be AFRAID to speak out against homosexualism and the trail of destruction that emerges from this ideology. I, on the other hand, am NOT afraid of you or any individual who advocates social destruction, nor am I afraid to speak out against said social destruction. Thus, NO homophobia. Question: Why do you feel men and women should be separated? --The Final Justice
I hope gay marriage is legalized nationally because I'd love to this pastor throw a tantrum. Scratch that, I'd love to see EVERY Bible Belt Christian go ballistic.
Putting the verse here would be too long, but yes NT (the law of spirit/love) does trump the old testament (the law of laws/sin), but does not abolish it. Old does not mean irrelevant. There's a reason why your old man is called, your old man.
Once again, I admit that I have same-sex attraction to some extent, maybe not "capable enough" to make me to want to marry a guy, but being a Christian my whole life, and learning about this whole issue for quite a time, I know that homosexual relationship isn't the way it supposed to be. You might wanna search TH-cam "Ravi Zacharias on Homosexuality", it's his famous comment about a guy who has "homosexual disposition" who came to know Christ and reject homosexuality for the sake of Christ.
Oh do you feel harassed? If you are right you have nothing to worry about, other than God's judgement. No one is trying to change the way God has made you, but we're just telling you what God actually has made in you.
these kinds of preacher's are not autorised by the real church , nor the vatican , there are like sects... and unfortunately there are very good for speech , and lost ppl follows them for no good reason ...
I'm not shoving, I'm showing. Many Christians are known to have negative tendency to homosexuals, if I were to represent the whole Christianity, I would be very sorry for that. We love everyone, homosexuals, sexual offenders, thief, con men, violent gangsters, etc just as we are all ourselves also sinners but God loves us, but sometimes we just don't know how to behave. Once again, your existence is never evil, but please don't sin. I hope you find God's purpose in you, God bless.
I'm not forcing you, nor did I require approval or something. the judgement is God's. And I'm not telling you to surrender yourself to my fundamentalist ways. God made obstacles to overcome, not to stumble and stay on the ground.
well, for starters if we think about what we read regarding jesus it NEVER resembles the characteristics or behavior of modern-day Christians. he was all about love,giving and compassion. and +MOE JOE i know firsthand the warped mindset and self-hate that comes from growing up in this environment. in the end it isn't 'jesus' that we need because that leads us to look outside of ourselves for answers rather than within!! the lessons of the bible can be useful, but it's all about interpretation.. when ppl reference Leviticus they skip over all of the laws that pertain to everyone and hone in on the gay scriptures because they are BULLIES! studying the teachings of christ can be helpful, but it's better to avoid churches altogether.you can learn on your own if you want...churches are nothing more than GROUP-THINK tanks. everyone must think the same... it feels great, though, to be so far away from all of that nonsense.
and another thing. He loves people enough to tell them the truth. He has preached against sex before marriage, lying, and other sins as well. So let us stop acting like he is after the GAY person! Seek God and a relationship with Him, but we must repent and follow the Holy Spirit. Do I sin? You bet I do, sometimes I get upset and curse but the HS guides me to repentance. My cussing has got a lot better now because I allowed the HS to work in my life...
" "I'm born gay" although the exact fact that they have some "special genetics" but not born gay but chose to be." So, you're a geneticist now? You know what happens inside the womb? You know every single base pair and their operation in the Human Gnome? I Don't think so if you tried to mix religion with science. It's apples and oranges.
i am a Christian but i still think that paster is giving them false hope just to lose them because once they realize it did not work they will start thinking god is not real and us as Christians should not let that happen , if god wants to do something about it he will do it on his own time not ours all you can do is teach them gods word and not just about homosexuality but gods word in general until then , stop tormenting them over something they can't change , like this if you agree
attraction to people of the same sex is just a part of puberty, you're interested in comparing of how are you growing up and how are other people growing up, but that doesn't make you gay. What's wrong is that you think that you can have a relationship as you can with an opposite sex. .
it's not a claim, it's another prediction and a consensus known by many taken from extensive studies and surveys. And that reason to be gay I wrote is one of the reasons the respondents chose to be gay.
I don't know how they're romantically involved with guys first since most homosexuals who have difficulty with themselves before coming out have dated girls and have had girlfriends first. It's funny how you think you know all people are the same
You argue from a false premise: that sex is only for reproduction, and sexual attraction is solely a supportive element. What you fail to realize is that a significant portion of our species does not want to reproduce itself, gay and straight members alike. Homosexual behavior abounds in the natural world and provides a calming mechanism in predominantly male populations. Prison is a prime example of straight men engaging in homosexual behavior out of necessity, not sexual attraction.
"the Bible says that we are to love the sinner but hate the sin." I'm not sure the Bible ever said that. I'm pretty sure Evangelical theologians came up with that idea.
Still I wouldn't classify this as a "cult", as a cult means a certain group that sets itself apart and peddle the teaching of their traditional Bible. And I see people calling this a "cult" is because they don't like the view that homosexuals are condemned and even punishable to death in the old days. So-called gay pastors have been trying to make the Bible to look like It supports homosexuality, but making the Bible to conform with our view isn't the way it should be.
The pastor said those teens won't be judged for coming forward. That's a blatant lie. Us Christians are the most judging folks there are. He is showing his ignorant of sexuality.
however you describe it, every game has rules whether you are so-called "born gay" or not the Bible tells us same-sex marriage is not the way it's supposed to be. From the start God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Rogers. and this is not my ways. it's your right to be single until death.
One of the biggest problems with your arguement is that it rests completely on the assumption that the purpose of men and women is to reproduce, which is actually not true. There are tons of couples who never have children because they just don't want to have kids. Your belief is clearly based on your religious views rather than critical thinking, which might tell you that sexuality does not define someone's worth as a person.
There you go with the contradiction. How can you NOT be born gay if you ARE born with homosexual tendencies/dispositions. Clearly communicate the message you're trying to say because all I'm getting is mixed results "but not born gay but chose to be." What?
People claim it's wrong to judge,yet they judge people for judging?How is that not hypocritical?The church is called to judge other Christians by the word of God,not self righteously & God's word gives us exclusive sins, that unrepented of ,will be in Hell.So if one claims they have no sin(homosexuals) they are liars & they call God a liar.How many adulterers claim they aren't sinners?The Bible is clear,any sex outside of marriage of one man & one women,is sin.The world is defining sin now.
it was a rough ILLUSTRATION not identification. I am not judging or persecuting others, you're just being offended by my statements. Yes Jesus came to teach us how to love, but also clearly defines marriage is between "man and woman". and if I may ask, sir/miss, are you gay? and if you are, do you think you and your boy/girlfriend may go to heaven?
I could have sworn that as long as you believe in God, that means you go to heaven. You can't be kept out of heaven just for being gay. And if I read the bible correctly, it says that homosexual acts are sinful. Saying that you'll be kept out of heaven just for being gay is just like saying I'm going to be kept out of heaven for being alive. That's stupid :/
"but we're just telling you what God actually has made in you." So, you're God now? You're trying to tell me that God has made me into something else than what he has made into me now? Do you realize that is in itself blasphemy? Why fix something that isn't broken? I am perfectly content on who I am and the road God has chosen for me. You can't change something that an all knowing being as made. That's illogical and stupid. Also, that comment still says you're trying to make me conform
That man could never do anything or say anything that will harm any child of god that's gay or Bi or anything of that sort ......I have no hatred in my heart to any one and I love all living things why can't the rest of I justdo the same we are all human no matter what ,god will be there for what ever u need
"They are never irrelevant." According to my pastor and other christians, the old testaments are old and irrelevant since the NT trumps it. How can they never be irrelevant if the NT trumps it. I am very confused now. ^----- THIS is one of the MAIN reasons why I turned my back on the bible and have lived my life through the many lessons (sometimes painful lessons) That life has taught me/ will teach me in the future. Like I said before. I learn from my mistakes/life, not a book
Damian Thompson is an amazing pastor with and awesome message and testimony... im a former atheist i had became a christian before listening to Damians message but everything he speaks is biblical so if you go to a church activity plan on hearing about the bible.... pretty simple concept
Many times sincerity and being sincerely incorrect joins hands. There are many who because they are not gay, are unenlightened with what it is like to be gay. They believe all are created heterosexually like themselves and then at some time in a gay person's life, he or she chose to be gay. Why a heterosexual person would choose to be gay is beyond me. People don't choose who they are attracted to. The statement that people choose to be gay lacks logical thinking.
I assume you're addressing to me. So first, I'm not gay. Second, I've said that everyone has same-sex attraction to some extent, this I agree with some of Alfred Kinsey's "research". Third, homophobia is defined "negative attitude or feeling about homosexuality, expressed through prejudice, hatred, fear, disgust, etc." so I know that I'm not homophobic. but I am still offended by things that are not supposed to be.
homosexuality is a feeling that can be resisted. All of the heterosexuals in the church have the same feelings to look at pornography, or have sex with people who aren't their spouse, but they resist that urge because that is what God calls us too. Also God can change DNA and he can restore the natural heterosexual urges to people, He is great, He is powerful, and He is good. Point is God knows everyone of you and loves you and longs for you just the way you are, but he desires more for you.
Free means understanding you have the right to be who you are and love who you want To teach anything else is a lie the truth is what gives freedom.God loves us all.
there is something seriously wrong with you if you agree with this pastor calling homosexuals queers , he has no right to do that and god will judge him for that one day , we will all be judged one day , it says in the bible not to judge our brothers and sisters but yet most Christians still do it.
This man has a LOT of personal rage with homosexuality. I think its possible that he himself might have been molested or fear taking a look at his own sexuality.
Let me quote from the literal translation of King James Version: "...neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." There are 10 identities there, and female prostitutes fall into, 3? "Fornicators, adulterers, abusers of themselves with mankind"? and this is not the only verse in the Bible condemning prostitution.
@MrSinister84 I have to go point by point with you because your mind is closed. #1 Having both biological parents in a loving home does not mean there is touch between the father and the young boy. #2 If a young boy did not receive touch from a woman in his formative years, then he will have trouble processing touch from a woman when he is an adult. The key word is formative.
Studies show that those men who speak the harshest against gays are fighting their own same-sex attractions. Pastor Damon is no exception.
Let people be what they were born to be.
yeah straight lol
Angela Dorazio lol - matter of opinion.
+Angela Dorazio ??? When did you choose to be straight? just curious...
Gqdancer ever since I had a vagina
chris walls Thanks Chris, just did not want to answer another girl that way...U'd think we girls need to stick together...after all we were under the thumb for a while...but she already forgot...didn't she?
Maybe she would love to go back to the days of kitchen-barefoot and pregnant? Who knows... some women probably do... sad huh?
homosexual sex has nothing to do with spreading diseases....read the statistics sweetheart and get it right
Seems to be a lot of gay bashing "Pastors". some get caught out as gay themselves.
A mind that is controlled by a self-limiting belief system is, by definition, not free.
Hate spreaders should be banned, which would mean banning most religions/cults, as they do spread a huge amount of hate
"Nobody here to judge you"?
I am a man and I have been attracted to to men but I would never say I battled it... the idea of it sound so utterly alien as if it honestly game from another planet.
It is combine that with the fact it is cruel and there is no better definition of inhumane. It is a literal lack of humanity and kindness.
" and they shall know you by your love"
fortunately there are many many Christians who love and respect thier gay brothers and sisters and can be found .
I hope Ashton is right and these crazies don't take escalate their anger up to physical violence.
Thompson is a menace.
Don't seem like Christians, if all they do is judge.
John 7:24. Jesus actually told us to judge.
Some think Live and let live.
Larz Gustafsson Matt 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Stop cherry picking the fuckin' book!
DarnJones
YOU are cherry picking. Read John 7:24. Jesus actually tells us to judge.
And your vocabulary reveals that you are NOT a Christian. You are a reprobate and totally disrespectful.
Larz Gustafsson I love how you delete a post as not to hear a reply....
Wrong! - I am not a reprobate due to the fact that we would
need to agree on the fact that I am destined for damnation. I would have to
believe that this was actually an option when I die. Right! - I am no longer a Christian. I spent 35 yrs in this garbage and actually sat under Damon Thompson and his teaching. Back and forth we could go…….
Damon Thompson isn't afraid of stepping on people's toes. I am in complete 100% agreement with him. Keep on stating the Bible, Damon.
I did not exactly choose to be straight, but I chose to follow the Word of God. The choice of not being gay, not cursing, not looking to pornography, not being selfish, etc. are what come after.
I am a child of the world and learns what the world teaches me through Science, Math, English, Reading Comprehension, History, and so on. I have stopped learning about the world through a moldy old book and actually believing that it is still same way it was 2500+ years ago. I've gotten with the times and adjust to society accordingly. I am gay, and I am proud of being the way I am. You nor anyone else will change that. I will deal with the consequences (if any) on judgement day, capiche?
I love when the truth is preached! That's what a minister is called to do and Damon Thompson preaches the truth! Praise the Lord for him and all preachers that are still not afraid to preach the truth even if it makes them unpopular.
indeed
When you can give irrefutable concrete evidence as to who wrote this book and prove it's just not babble written by some iron age human, then you can discuss the proposed morality found in this book which you christians so blindly and hatefully try to impose on others.
Wow this is probably the most commented on video I have seen on this channel, good to see it getting the recongition it deserves.
...Oh. And he's also still married to my mom after 38 years, and their relationship has been a huge inspiration to me.
My dad is fucking awesome and has always supported me in everything I do. He is my role model in many ways - he's comfortable in his heterosexuality, he's extremely intelligent (PhD in physics), and he's active and creative. He inspired me to get my PhD, he loves and accepts my husband, and he actually paid for my gay wedding.
Does anyone have a link or the FULL video of the 'outting service'? They deleted the original video and Im needing to show this off!
MidweekPolitics, can you post the rest of the video???
it's the same thing as saying that God hates sin but why didn't he eradicated sin from the first time? obstacles are there to overcome.
Guys like this pastor are the reason I hated myself when I was in high school and trying to deal with being a lesbian.
by time. the whole book is almost 2000 years old and its writing first took place almost 4000 years ago. but the Bible is still used by many as their guide to living and they have hope. and thank you for the compliment.
"It was just really fake" OF COURSE IT IS!! LOL
The problem with marriage equality is that there is no problem. Here are some of the problems associated with faith based hate: Sorry, Sweetheart, but supporting APARTHEID is the very definition of HATE. To treat a fellow citizen as less than equal IS hate. To send a fellow citizen to the back of the bus (just BECAUSE) is hate. Segregation is HATE. Anti-gay discrimination is hate. - You have no argument and no "out". Embrace your bigotry or be ashamed of it. You can't have it both way. And PALEEZE stop hiding YOUR hate behind a defenseless imaginary ghost in the sky, THAT excuse is getting really BOOOORING!
+Jordan Wendt OK, Prove it!
thank you for the compliment.
I am not one of those individuals who ultimately chose to be gay because I knew what I wanted before I even hit puberty. I knew what I wanted before I was even old enough for my mother to give me the "talk" about gender differences and making babies. So, to say that a sexually immature child who is completely oblivious to the difference between boys and girls on the outside chose to be gay is an insult as well. Saying to any gay person that they chose to be hated by all and be tormented is an
TOW:
"Are you comparing homosexuality to murder? The two are not the same."
Oh, really?
If you're a homosexual male who JUST HAPPENS to carry HIV/AIDS
and you deliberately infect another partner by engaging in unprotected
sex with him, then YES -- you are a murderer. And it doesn't matter
whether or not the other was a bugchaser. Murder is murder, whether
or not the victim wants to die. Furthermore, anyone who advocates death
in ANY FORM is nothing more than a killer in training.
--FJ
RIZZO:
"So if i was born more inclined to be violent, It's ok for me to kill someone?"
TOW:
"Are you comparing homosexuality to murder? The two are not the same."
>> Well, let's put it in perspective, Nate.
If you declare that CONSCIOUS, CHOSEN BEHAVIORS are "genetic",
then you must expect your argument to be consistent in context.
Therefore, if you homosexuality can be genetic, why shouldn't the same
apply for murder, rape, violence, pyromania or eating plastic?
--The Final Justice
O I'm free sir by being what God intended me to be. A kind hearted,compassionate,non judgemental,loyal,tolerant gay guy named Nate who has just as close relationship with God as any straight Christian.I take my gift and my love share it with the world and agree to disagree with others who think otherwise.This is my story.Love You all and God Bless!!!
Please, where can I find the complete original video?
"gay men become gay because they did not have a strong heterosexual male in their life to raise them"
Everytime I hear people say that about gay males, I just want to say "Pff try telling that my dad who is like straighter than an arrow"
"Spiritual father...." - to young males.
Where have we JUST seen this? Hint: the out-of-court settlement was for a cool $25 million. This is another train wreck waiting to happen.
Mr. Pittman, you have done a great thing in exposing this junk. Keep on keepin' on.
So does that mean if somebody is sterile (not by choice), it's wrong for them to be in a relationship and it's wrong for them to be the way they are even though there is not a single thing they can do about it?
I don't think it's a homophobic cult. We are just taught that it is not right but should not look to a gay person with disgust that they would be disgusted with us. Although I came from a conservative Christian family from Asia, absorbing a lot of western culture made me rather comfortable with homosexual attitude, but I know still homosexual relationship isn't right.
I stress that born gay/homosexual and born with stronger homosexual tendencies are two different things. That being said you can also conclude that no one is born straight/heterosexual either. Even people who call themselves straight at one point might have attraction to same sex. The difference between the people who call themselves gay is that they have stronger tendencies to be and to chose to be gay.
I confronted my gay demon and all I can say is we have never been happier,our eyes met and it was love at first sight.my deamon(mike) to you all is filthy,so thanks to the pastor forgetting us together because what we get up to in the bed room would make any pastor insane with jealously.
Wait, I feel that my previous response was a little lackluster.
Sure, some people do choose to be gay and then go back to women (Bisexuals), but to say that the ones who have hated themselves in fear of being abused, rejected, neglected, ostracized, tormented, and hated is illogical. Saying that they chose to be gay is an insult to the ones who have suffered enough and ultimately ended their own lives because they couldn't take the abuse that society was putting them through.......
I actually forgot what is actually in this video. purposely calling gay people "queers" is something I wouldn't do, nor sending hate messages or negative allusions, but that has been a problem in many churches that are trying to embrace LGBT people to come to know Christ and to know that it isn't right according to the Maker of the world.
Your existence is never evil, but we are all have been contaminated by sin.
The environment isn't homo-erotic, they are clearing out the confusion in sexuality, and they are comfortable with being close to one another, hugging etc. because they know it is not in a sexual way. Also though the church is not being loving in their approach to homosexuality, they are not approaching it from a Christ like perspective, it must be made known that it is wrong, but the people must still be loved. This is not representative of all Christians, just making sure that is clear.
I wish that Christians would live a life of loving the Lord and being an example of joy and peace to others without pointing fingers and telling other people how to live their life. If you are a Christian and have homosexual people in your life, be an example of God's grace to them and pray for them. God knows how to reach the hearts of His children. He loves gay people just as much as He loves straight people. We are all wonderfully and fearfully made.
Funny, His biography says that he was not in ties with religion whatsoever, and it most definitely DOES NOT say he was a bible scholar. Please, tell me where you pulled that information from with links. Please and thank you
Right, First off. Let me tell you that I'm sorry for the insults. I become flustered when I'm passively insulted.
Second, Like I said. No, I'm already finished with the bible. It has put me through too much emotional torment until I finally accepted myself for who I am. I'd rather not open it back up. Kthx
I know someone who has been married for 15 years, was a renouned pastor who had/has rage issues and therefore family issues because he has been oppressing himself from being himself his whole life. he is not a pastor anymore but is still a christian, still married with two adopted kids and probably as miserable as ever because he is still in denial.being gay is not a disease or a demon people. you are born gay. and it didn't have in just the past 20-30 years, it has always been so.look it up.
The content of the Bible does not change through time. Any meaning alteration in the Bible is a serious offense. And all the English Bibles whether it's KJV from the 1611 or all the modern English Bibles, and all translation all over the world are translated from the Hebrew, Aramaic, Syriac Peshitta, Greek, and Latin text. They are never irrelevant.
I do know that not everyone is Christian, and in fact above the exact response when I argue with somebody of non-Christian with the fact that reproduction is by one man and one woman cleave together, and that and technically everybody might and might not be born gay. Homosexual activity and same-sex attraction have existed since (and common in) the days of ancient Rome and Greece, but doesn't mean they're (born) gay or chose to be gay as a sexual preference.
This is actually FRIGHTENING, really, but David did an excellent interview with Mr Pittman, who is a brave, young man. I detest how these religious zealots always pull the Sarah Palin victimization meme to defend themselves. Again, I have to compliment both of these participants in the interview, both for their inquisitiveness, circumspection, and healthy skepticism. Going to want to learn more about this form of religious prosecution and more about Ashton, too, and his courageous investigation
Well, if you aren't against it, then why are you trying so hard trying to convince yourself and other people that it does not exist?
this part of the conversation was not my reply to you so what I have been doing is just replying to you, not trolling, as what TH-cam comments should be contained with. and I can say this because beside research I had those "feelings" as well. We embrace homosexuals to know the love of God, but if we already look to them in disgust (homophobia), we are already lost.
Nope. They're not born with them. People are born with differences in sexual hormone production, sexual tendencies etc but they choose their own sexual orientation, they define their own identity.
"you're not going to hell for being gay, you're going to hell because you're sinning and you don't have a personal savior."
You're also judging me by saying I don't have a personal savior. Tell me, How would you know that when you have no clue who I am to begin with? Did you come to that conclusion when I said I was gay? Funny, that's juding and I quote the most famous bible quote OF ALL
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
You are not without sin, so you shouldn't pass judgement
Hello, I Love everyone, but above that I Love Gods word because it Sets You Free!!!
This is for all Christians!! Teach the Truth!!! Teach Freedom!!!
1 Corinthians 6:7-12 New Living Translation (NLT)
7 Even to have such lawsuits with one another is a defeat for you. Why not just accept the injustice and leave it at that? Why not let yourselves be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves are the ones who do wrong and cheat even your fellow believers.[a]
9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. 11 Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
The word, "homosexual" is a translation from other words that didn't even mean what we know it to mean today. Good thing you didn't use the Leviticus quote. lol
Is that so bro... or are you just twisting the truth... because the word of God is the truth... it says let God be true and every man be a liar....somtimes we like to twist the truth to fit our lifestyle. .. I ve been there... but the word was never meant to fit out lifestyle but change our lifestyle through the power of Christ.... blessings
Chris Allman Nope, no twisting. I have no reason to twist. I'll leave that for a good chunk of christians out there. It was a direct translation....bro.
Chris Allman there is no god, so how can there be "the word of god"?
atheistsrnumber1 lol it takes more faith to be an Atheist... than to believe in Jesus...
And thus we have understanding how some of the worst homophobes are gay themselves, unable to accept their own sexuality and assume the mantle of guilt that false religious doctrine and ignorance has placed on them. Thank you for exposing inbred homophobia. I hope and pray that some day you will be able to accept yourself for who you are, not for who others tell you that you should be.
While you are correct in your statement that sexuality is often something that is fluid and changes over the course of a person's life, it's worth pointing out that millions of same sex couples have perfectly healthy relationships.
we are all bisexual if we go by that definition, so I cannot answer your question because the definition of straight and other terms itself we do not agree.
AKRIFA:
"Wow - you are very outspoken."
>> Why, thank you, Akrifa. That I am. And that's my point.
A REAL homophobe would be AFRAID to speak out against
homosexualism and the trail of destruction that emerges from
this ideology. I, on the other hand, am NOT afraid of you
or any individual who advocates social destruction, nor am I
afraid to speak out against said social destruction.
Thus, NO homophobia.
Question: Why do you feel men and women should be separated?
--The Final Justice
I hope gay marriage is legalized nationally because I'd love to this pastor throw a tantrum. Scratch that, I'd love to see EVERY Bible Belt Christian go ballistic.
Putting the verse here would be too long, but yes NT (the law of spirit/love) does trump the old testament (the law of laws/sin), but does not abolish it. Old does not mean irrelevant. There's a reason why your old man is called, your old man.
Once again, I admit that I have same-sex attraction to some extent, maybe not "capable enough" to make me to want to marry a guy, but being a Christian my whole life, and learning about this whole issue for quite a time, I know that homosexual relationship isn't the way it supposed to be. You might wanna search TH-cam "Ravi Zacharias on Homosexuality", it's his famous comment about a guy who has "homosexual disposition" who came to know Christ and reject homosexuality for the sake of Christ.
Oh do you feel harassed? If you are right you have nothing to worry about, other than God's judgement. No one is trying to change the way God has made you, but we're just telling you what God actually has made in you.
"It's not just that. Sometimes it's about porn. Sometimes it's about, about girls that sleep around . . . " ALL the time it's about deliverence!
.....Are you calling me a devil? Are you seriously calling me a devil because I'm gay?
these kinds of preacher's are not autorised by the real church , nor the vatican , there are like sects... and unfortunately there are very good for speech , and lost ppl follows them for no good reason ...
no, He helps us to read through every word and every letter and putting it all together in one sense (tas graphas).
I'm not shoving, I'm showing.
Many Christians are known to have negative tendency to homosexuals, if I were to represent the whole Christianity, I would be very sorry for that. We love everyone, homosexuals, sexual offenders, thief, con men, violent gangsters, etc just as we are all ourselves also sinners but God loves us, but sometimes we just don't know how to behave. Once again, your existence is never evil, but please don't sin. I hope you find God's purpose in you, God bless.
I'm not forcing you, nor did I require approval or something. the judgement is God's. And I'm not telling you to surrender yourself to my fundamentalist ways. God made obstacles to overcome, not to stumble and stay on the ground.
well, for starters if we think about what we read regarding jesus it NEVER resembles the characteristics or behavior of modern-day Christians. he was all about love,giving and compassion. and +MOE JOE i know firsthand the warped mindset and self-hate that comes from growing up in this environment. in the end it isn't 'jesus' that we need because that leads us to look outside of ourselves for answers rather than within!! the lessons of the bible can be useful, but it's all about interpretation..
when ppl reference Leviticus they skip over all of the laws that pertain to everyone and hone in on the gay scriptures because they are BULLIES! studying the teachings of christ can be helpful, but it's better to avoid churches altogether.you can learn on your own if you want...churches are nothing more than GROUP-THINK tanks. everyone must think the same...
it feels great, though, to be so far away from all of that nonsense.
"Nobody here to judge you." Except that everybody there is telling them that what they are doing is demonic and wrong.
and another thing. He loves people enough to tell them the truth. He has preached against sex before marriage, lying, and other sins as well. So let us stop acting like he is after the GAY person! Seek God and a relationship with Him, but we must repent and follow the Holy Spirit. Do I sin? You bet I do, sometimes I get upset and curse but the HS guides me to repentance. My cussing has got a lot better now because I allowed the HS to work in my life...
" "I'm born gay" although the exact fact that they have some "special genetics" but not born gay but chose to be."
So, you're a geneticist now? You know what happens inside the womb? You know every single base pair and their operation in the Human Gnome? I Don't think so if you tried to mix religion with science. It's apples and oranges.
i am a Christian but i still think that paster is giving them false hope just to lose them because once they realize it did not work they will start thinking god is not real and us as Christians should not let that happen , if god wants to do something about it he will do it on his own time not ours all you can do is teach them gods word and not just about homosexuality but gods word in general until then , stop tormenting them over something they can't change , like this if you agree
attraction to people of the same sex is just a part of puberty, you're interested in comparing of how are you growing up and how are other people growing up, but that doesn't make you gay. What's wrong is that you think that you can have a relationship as you can with an opposite sex. .
NEVER be afraid of the truth! Learn from it!
it's not a claim, it's another prediction and a consensus known by many taken from extensive studies and surveys. And that reason to be gay I wrote is one of the reasons the respondents chose to be gay.
I don't know how they're romantically involved with guys first since most homosexuals who have difficulty with themselves before coming out have dated girls and have had girlfriends first. It's funny how you think you know all people are the same
Does what Damon Thompson preach about line up with Scripture? He does NOT have to please men but GOD.
You argue from a false premise: that sex is only for reproduction, and sexual attraction is solely a supportive element. What you fail to realize is that a significant portion of our species does not want to reproduce itself, gay and straight members alike. Homosexual behavior abounds in the natural world and provides a calming mechanism in predominantly male populations. Prison is a prime example of straight men engaging in homosexual behavior out of necessity, not sexual attraction.
"the Bible says that we are to love the sinner but hate the sin."
I'm not sure the Bible ever said that. I'm pretty sure Evangelical theologians came up with that idea.
Damon is a spirit filled man and according to the word of God homosexuality is forbidding read Romans chapter 1
Still I wouldn't classify this as a "cult", as a cult means a certain group that sets itself apart and peddle the teaching of their traditional Bible. And I see people calling this a "cult" is because they don't like the view that homosexuals are condemned and even punishable to death in the old days. So-called gay pastors have been trying to make the Bible to look like It supports homosexuality, but making the Bible to conform with our view isn't the way it should be.
The pastor said those teens won't be judged for coming forward. That's a blatant lie. Us Christians are the most judging folks there are. He is showing his ignorant
of sexuality.
however you describe it, every game has rules whether you are so-called "born gay" or not the Bible tells us same-sex marriage is not the way it's supposed to be. From the start God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Rogers. and this is not my ways. it's your right to be single until death.
One of the biggest problems with your arguement is that it rests completely on the assumption that the purpose of men and women is to reproduce, which is actually not true. There are tons of couples who never have children because they just don't want to have kids. Your belief is clearly based on your religious views rather than critical thinking, which might tell you that sexuality does not define someone's worth as a person.
There you go with the contradiction. How can you NOT be born gay if you ARE born with homosexual tendencies/dispositions. Clearly communicate the message you're trying to say because all I'm getting is mixed results
"but not born gay but chose to be." What?
People claim it's wrong to judge,yet they judge people for judging?How is that not hypocritical?The church is called to judge other Christians by the word of God,not self righteously & God's word gives us exclusive sins, that unrepented of ,will be in Hell.So if one claims they have no sin(homosexuals) they are liars & they call God a liar.How many adulterers claim they aren't sinners?The Bible is clear,any sex outside of marriage of one man & one women,is sin.The world is defining sin now.
it was a rough ILLUSTRATION not identification. I am not judging or persecuting others, you're just being offended by my statements. Yes Jesus came to teach us how to love, but also clearly defines marriage is between "man and woman". and if I may ask, sir/miss, are you gay? and if you are, do you think you and your boy/girlfriend may go to heaven?
I could have sworn that as long as you believe in God, that means you go to heaven. You can't be kept out of heaven just for being gay. And if I read the bible correctly, it says that homosexual acts are sinful. Saying that you'll be kept out of heaven just for being gay is just like saying I'm going to be kept out of heaven for being alive. That's stupid :/
"but we're just telling you what God actually has made in you."
So, you're God now? You're trying to tell me that God has made me into something else than what he has made into me now? Do you realize that is in itself blasphemy? Why fix something that isn't broken? I am perfectly content on who I am and the road God has chosen for me. You can't change something that an all knowing being as made. That's illogical and stupid. Also, that comment still says you're trying to make me conform
That man could never do anything or say anything that will harm any child of god that's gay or Bi or anything of that sort ......I have no hatred in my heart to any one and I love all living things why can't the rest of I justdo the same we are all human no matter what ,god will be there for what ever u need
"They are never irrelevant."
According to my pastor and other christians, the old testaments are old and irrelevant since the NT trumps it. How can they never be irrelevant if the NT trumps it. I am very confused now.
^----- THIS is one of the MAIN reasons why I turned my back on the bible and have lived my life through the many lessons (sometimes painful lessons) That life has taught me/ will teach me in the future. Like I said before. I learn from my mistakes/life, not a book
Damian Thompson is an amazing pastor with and awesome message and testimony... im a former atheist i had became a christian before listening to Damians message but everything he speaks is biblical so if you go to a church activity plan on hearing about the bible.... pretty simple concept
Many times sincerity and being sincerely incorrect joins hands. There are many who because they are not gay, are unenlightened with what it is like to be gay. They believe all are created heterosexually like themselves and then at some time in a gay person's life, he or she chose to be gay. Why a heterosexual person would choose to be gay is beyond me. People don't choose who they are attracted to. The statement that people choose to be gay lacks logical thinking.
I assume you're addressing to me. So first, I'm not gay. Second, I've said that everyone has same-sex attraction to some extent, this I agree with some of Alfred Kinsey's "research". Third, homophobia is defined "negative attitude or feeling about homosexuality, expressed through prejudice, hatred, fear, disgust, etc." so I know that I'm not homophobic. but I am still offended by things that are not supposed to be.
Aren't tattoos forbidden as well?
homosexuality is a feeling that can be resisted. All of the heterosexuals in the church have the same feelings to look at pornography, or have sex with people who aren't their spouse, but they resist that urge because that is what God calls us too. Also God can change DNA and he can restore the natural heterosexual urges to people, He is great, He is powerful, and He is good. Point is God knows everyone of you and loves you and longs for you just the way you are, but he desires more for you.
Free means understanding you have the right to be who you are and love who you want To teach anything else is a lie the truth is what gives freedom.God loves us all.
there is something seriously wrong with you if you agree with this pastor calling homosexuals queers , he has no right to do that and god will judge him for that one day , we will all be judged one day , it says in the bible not to judge our brothers and sisters but yet most Christians still do it.
This man has a LOT of personal rage with homosexuality. I think its possible that he himself might have been molested or fear taking a look at his own sexuality.
Let me quote from the literal translation of King James Version: "...neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." There are 10 identities there, and female prostitutes fall into, 3? "Fornicators, adulterers, abusers of themselves with mankind"? and this is not the only verse in the Bible condemning prostitution.
@MrSinister84 I have to go point by point with you because your mind is closed. #1 Having both biological parents in a loving home does not mean there is touch between the father and the young boy. #2 If a young boy did not receive touch from a woman in his formative years, then he will have trouble processing touch from a woman when he is an adult. The key word is formative.