@Alex Miller I think the main problem is that no one other than Zimmermann knows what happened at the start if the confrontation. As far as eye witnesses testimony, several changed their statements and others were add much later. You may think it was "murder" or it could have been "self defense" regardless we just don't know, and can't throw someone in jail on a hunch.
if zimmerman had a gun. why would he need help. this is nuts. its trayvon being shot and yelling help.. or its george pretending to be a victim in order to build his case
Because Zimmerman didn’t want to use the gun. Only after Zimmerman’s cries for help went unanswered and Trayvon saw and went for the gun, then did Zimmerman need to use the gun to defend himself. Zimmerman showed great restraint by not immediately shooting Trayvon when Trayvon attacked.
Yeah that's the same thing that happens to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race community ! People gets mugg Robb stalk and killed by black race people
23 Skiddoo get educated dumbass and I bet you do like using the n word you're trailer trash no wonder minorities don't like white people like you you're ignorant we didn't steal history it was found blacks are the original people why do you think Africas right by Egypt? Science also said it
egyptian wolf why the fuck are you arguing with him!? If he can't spell he can't spell you can already see he's clearly stupid...he writes 3 comments without speaking a full complete sentence
@@estebannemo1957 He was screaming help me AFTER HE GOT HIS ASS WHOOPED FOR FOLLOWING A STRANGER. IT WAS NOT HIS PLACE OR RIGHT TO FOLLOW HIM. AND THE COPS HIMSELF TOLD HIM NOT TO FOLLOW HIM. THE INSTRUCTED HIM NOT TO FOLLOW HIM. This is murder.
I think it's obvious that those screams were no ordinary yells for help. In the background of those 911 calls you can hear screams that you only hear in horror movies. Whoever was screaming THAT way believed that he was going to die any second and Zimmerman had no reason to think like that. Even if he thought tall and skinny Trayvon could beat him up he still wouldn't have screamed with that sort of hysteria. Zimmerman claimed it was himself doing that screaming and complained that no neighbors came outside to help him. Actually the neighbors helped by calling 911 inside their own homes but screams of terror made them feel too scared to come outside to help out. Maybe if they were ordinary yells for help then maybe people wouldn't be so afraid to come outside..
Because it was ZIMMERMAN who was getting his ass handed to him. How many people do YOU know who scream for help when THEY are beating the shit out of someone?
Why would Trayvon think he was going to die? He was on top beating the shit out of Zimmerman...the only person that logically would have been screaming was Zimmerman.
First of all, moron...he had LEFT the store more than a half hour before he was killed. Second, he was killed because he was beating the shit out of someone who reasonably believed there was no alternative but to shoot the thug delivering the beating. That "he was just going to the store" argument is totally ignorant of the evidence!
First of all, how about you get your facts straight. 1 - According to the autopsy report, Trayvon Martin was 5'11" and weighed 158lbs. 2. When Zimmerman was questioned by police the night of the shooting, the police report indicates he stood about 5'8" and weighed 200lbs. So, the difference isn't 100lbs, like you claim...but roughly 42lbs, less than HALF what YOU say. Now, even at 42lbs difference, I don't ignore the difference between Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin's weights at all. But it doesn't seem to have mattered much to Trayvon, since the evidence shows several things: 1) After exiting his vehicle, Zimmerman never stepped south of the east-west sidewalk, even though he had observed Trayvon to have gone in that direction. 2) The point near the "T" intersection of two sidewalks (where Trayvon was last seen during the phone call with the dispatcher) was a moderate walk of about 90 seconds tops to where Trayvon was staying. Meaning, if he WANTED to, he could have simply walked home, and Zimmerman never would have seen him again; however, in the nearly two full minutes that were remaining on Zimmerman's phone call with the dispatcher, Trayvon Martin did NOT go home. Instead, after the phone call ended, he was still near where he had last been seen several minutes earlier. 3) Both the verbal and physical encounter were initiated by Trayvon Martin himself. So, you see. While YOU may lend weight (not pun intended) to their physiological differences, it doesn't appear to have mattered to Trayvon Martin himself. That kind of makes it a little bit irrelevant - what YOU think the differences in their weight means.
@@ashleymclean8261 he wasn't minding his own business idiot, He was walking on private property looking into people's apartments. And we have texts from his thug father telling him to " case" some houses and obtain a gun for robbing the inhabitants
@@seanakridge2971 defending from what? Lets say you justify Travon's actions as self defense from the perceived threat of a neighborhood watch then you would also justify Zimmerman's actions as self defense from the actual violent assault. Trayvon defended himself from no threat while Zimmerman defended himself from having his brains beat in. Why did Trayvon go back 100 yards and commit a violent assault? Why didnt he just go inside and lock the door or do what ZImmerman did and call the police?
No Trayvon did not hide on John Goodes patio. Trayvon told Rachel that he ran home, he never mentioned hiding. Which means that Trayvon came back the 100 yards to assault Zimmerman. Zimmerman was still there at the T about 20 yards from his vehicle. So unless there were aliens involved its only logical to assume Trayvon went back. Bottom line though is that had he not violently assaulted Zimmerman he wouldnt have been killed.
@@cuzz63 Have you ever noticed that people who defend Trayvon never mention that Trayvon was mounted on Zimmerman and punching him in the face before he got shot? They always start by saying that Zimmerman got out of his car and followed Trayvon, and then they jump right to the moment where Trayvon was shot, completely leaving out everything that happened in between. I think this is because they know that Trayvon was assaulting Zimmerman while Zimmerman screamed for help for 45 seconds, completely justifying the shooting. Anyone who listens to the tape of those screams knows that it is Zimmerman's voice and not Trayvon's. It sounds exactly like Zimmerman, and sounds nothing like Trayvon. So, rather than dealing honestly with the facts, they would rather create a narrative and pretend that things did not happen the way they did.
@@jtstevenson81 , the people who defend Trayvon have to either ignore the assault or justify it by some strange logic. The false narrative they usually claim is that he was minding his own business which is not even logical on the face of it since he was shot in the middle of a violent assault. Often they claim that Zimmerman ignored the police dispatcher which was proven false by the evidence and its also common for them to claim he was told to stay in his vehicle when he wasnt. They also try to minimize Zimmerman injuries to say Trayvon didnt plan to hurt him.
Alcohol is 1,000 times more dangerous than weed will ever be. Them trying to say Trayvon was high and that's why he attacked is absolutely ridiculous. Even the medical examiner was like wtf
Actually, the medical examiner also ruled that the burn pattern of the bullet hole on Martin’s shirt indicated that he was sitting upright hanging over Zimmerman at the time that he was shot. Just like neighbor Jon Goode’s testimony about the guy in the red shirt (Zimmerman) lying on the ground and the guy in the gray shirt (Martin) straddling him and beating him up.
@@sean2015 All true, not to forget the notion that a medical examiner is qualified to testify to the likely effects of an unpredictable drug reaction in an individual...is absurd and irrelevant. Two things can be true: Zimmerman shouldn't have kept following Martin once the police were called, and Martin shouldn't have went back to attack and beat Zimmerman which could reasonably have led to Zimmerman's death if he had not defended himself the only way he could in that moment being held down by a younger man of superior size and strength. The way the media and crooked politicians have distorted and exploited this case for over a decade has been an international disgrace, and has led to causing more bloodshed and racial division and misunderstanding in the Country than any time in the past 60 years
@@sean2015Zimmerman should’ve never followed him , play stupid games win stupid prizes , unfortunately a gun was involved by the aggressor so the “man” who was getting beat up for harassment got away with M1.
@@notarapper04 Zimmerman didn't follow him you dummy, because he lost sight of him after Martin took off running (you can't follow someone you can’t see, obviously). Martin made it to within 100 feet of his front door, but instead of going inside and locking the door, he stood there in the pouring rain for 4+ minutes talking on the phone with his girlfriend. Cell phone records (which had to be subpoenaed because Martin’s father refused to turn them over) PROVED this fact. Then Martin turned right back around and walked 300 feet in the opposite direction where he confronted Zimmerman and sucker-punched him. Martin is responsible for his own stupid decisions. _What's the matter snowflake? Aren't you gonna call me a 'rathist' now?_
Bye Zimmerman! You're fucking pathetic and will always be pathetic for the rest of your pathetic life! Whether or not you defended yourself, you had to defend your old 30+ year old self against a kid that was just trying to get home and you're never going to live this down! Fuck You, You fucking animal deadass!!@@sean2015
@Bo Stephens you seem to not know or care that Trayvon was shot in the middle of a violent assault, he was not on his phone minding his own business, why he did so is anyone's guess as Rachel wasnt that forthcoming on that . Zimmerman didnt need to make anything up, even if Trayvon had killed him or put him in a coma we would know what happened because of the evidence, nobody convinced me anyone was a serial killer, not sure why you say that. Yes America is easily deceived, the media played you and you still dont even know it....do some basic research on the facts then come back.
@Bo Stephenswhat other testimony would Zimmerman had given if it was the truth? Did it ever occur to you that what he claimed happened actually did? The media pushed a false narrative and you fell for it instead of looking at the evidence and applying logic. Of course we dont have Trayvon's side since he was killed but we have plenty of other evidence. The only problem with your supposition is that Trayvon went back and assaulted Zimmerman, you cant base your premise off a false claim.
He was the guest of a person living there and was walking to get to that place. He cut through a place that was available to cut through because it had entry ways to the public sidewalk, according to the layout picture of the property.
No it's common sense. Being in denial and not wanting to believe that was his brother makes sense. It's only stupid people like you that are judging a teen for grieving
That makes no sense at all. wtf why WOULDN'T you scream if someone pulls a gun on u when ur both struggling on the ground. You're about to die, you're going to be scared. Why would Zimmerman scream though? Who pulls a gun on someone and screams fearfully before they shoot? And the voice is not one of a grown man, it's adolescent. It's so obvious. I can't believe people actually buy into Zimmerman's story.
It makes no sense that Martin was screaming. Screaming from what? He had taken Zimmerman to the ground, mounted him, and was punching him in the face and slamming his head into the ground. This is corroborated by police photos of Zimmerman's busted nose and bloody scalp. Martin's face and head were untouched.
The "busted nose" of Zimmerman was clearly a doctored photo. It was taken by Officer Michael Wagner on his personal iphone and then released into evidence a month later. The " taken Zimmerman to the ground, mounted him, and was punching him in the face" was Zimmerman's claim which he was never testified/cross examined for. Trayvon's autopsy showed he had no injury to either his hands or his wrists. Zimmerman shot Trayvon on the grass lawn yards away from the concrete. Try again. It would make sense that Zimmerman had body gripped Trayvon for Trayvon to have been screaming. The voice analysis had ruled out Zimmerman as the screamer (but couldnt say Trayvon because Trayvon had no voice sample). Zimmerman himself had said it wasn't him screaming. No healthy adult with a gun would be screaming when they have a gun and are doing what they can to get to and use the gun. Screaming, like tapping out, is also a sign of submission when you are not able to do anything else. The screams ended immediately at the exact instant the shot was fired. Had it been Zimmerman screaming, he would have continued screaming after the shot (in fact, Zimmerman was described as cool, calm and collected immediately after. There are grown men who are still shaken after being robbed at gunpoint when they thought their life would end). Trayvon's autopsy showed that at the instant he was shot, he had pneumothorax. He couldn't vocalize from that point, hence why the screams ended immediately at the exact instant the shot was fired. It was Trayvon screaming. Not Zimmerman.
@@DavidSwe The answer lies in the police dispatcher transcripts. Martin approached Zimmerman's car while Zimmerman was on the phone with the police. Then, Martin inexplicably turned and started to run. Zimmerman started to run after him but (contrary to media memes) stopped when the operator advised him not to. He then arranged to meet with the police back at his car. This is all in the transcripts. On the way to the car Martin confronted him and a fight ensued. Martin didn't have a mark on his face or head, while Zimmerman had a busted nose, lip and back of the head. Zimmerman never "followed" Martin because he didnt have him in sight. He was looking for Martin a maximum of 20 seconds before the police dispatcher stopped him.
@Damin Mance Yup it was Trayvon who was trying to kill George and George was yelling for help. Fortunately George had his gun and shot Trayvon to save his own life.
Also, Zimmerman did NOT continue to follow Trayvon. Both the 911 call and Trayvon's friend on the phone confirms that Zimmerman lost track of Trayvon. You can't follow someone you lost. In any case, getting out of the vehicle and even following Trayvon isn't illegal or even improper.
Trayvon Thug Martin WAS THE ATTACKER, FACT! Neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, should NOT have been arrested, he should have been given a medal, a parade and the key to the city!
A young SMART man? Really? The thug was suspended from School THREE times...TWICE in the past few months before his death! One time he was suspended for SKIPPING school. He had stolen jewelry in his possession when he was questioned after school cops captured him on video vandalizing school property. Another time, he had traces of marijuana and a drug pipe in his possession. He posed with pot, guns and a grill I his teeth. He drank "Lean" routinely, and posted about it on social media!! You and the SANE world have different definitions of the word "smart". He was STUPID!
You're telling ME to edit MY reply? I need remedial English? You wrote: "There was no account as to how they needed up fighting..."???? NEEDED up fighting??? Seriously?? I'm here to call your opinion of the specifics very biased and it's a shame that your backwoods, inbred cousin-fucking mindset has to resort to racist language. But that's par for the course for people who call their uncle "Daddy".
Of COURSE you don't need MY permission to do Anything, or to interpret the evidence in any particular way. Feel free to pull facts and opinions out of your ass as much as you feel necessary.
You wrote: "Maybe you do not have anything better to do but to reply to TH-cam comments. It’s my Saturday go ahead and fuck your self the people who work need this time to rest." Well, apparently THAT'S not true - that you have better things to do. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Trayvon was a young man, 17 years old with still a lot to learn in this world, a lot of changes to go through, his life had no reason to be taken. Zimmerman and the justice system is wrong
Trayvon's background?!?! Zimmerman has been arrested 3 times one of which when he attacked an Undercover cop who was known as a law officer because he had arrested Zimmerman's friend and GZ got pissed. The fact that you convict Trayvon of being a crook when the fool was going to buy skittles is absurd. He wasn't going to rob any house in the rain the fool was going home. Zimmerman has a violent record. Trayvon was 17 years old, the fool barely had a record.
I think any jury would never ruled against this verdict that was not self defense ..... the prosecutors failure to emphasize that caused that trayvon zimmerman hurtling to beat for fear of a weapon.... remember! zimmerman in his own words confessed that when trayvon approached him try to find his phone that had been more effective than the lie that the screams were from trayvon voice no jury would have believed such a lie
But he was INSTRUCTED by 911 operators to STAY IN THE VEHICLE. He decided not to and continued to follow Trayvon. He could have let the police handle the situation. He could have stayed in his car until they got there but he wanted to play cop that day.
But you have yet to back up your DELUSIONAL statement that Trayvon instigated the fight. Facts tell us that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation by getting out of his vehicle.
he was creeping around homes in the dark while it was raining. then when he saw Zimmerman he mean mugged him circled his truck and made gestures to his waist. had he stayed on the sidewalk or walked down the street like a normal person we wouldn't be having this discussion.
where did you find out he was a gang banger...most gang bangers probably carry a piece on them cause they never know who gonna run up on them.......i think they incident happened at the back of the building and the house numbers are probably on the FRONT of the building where cars drive..so he could have stayed in his car and got the house number...come on...THINK! the same way people say Trayvon should have identified himself, George could have identified himself...he's the adult!
@@pdumpsterful you’re preaching to the choir my man. I already know the truth behind the Trayvon hoax despite the efforts of MSDNC and Ben Chump to frame their narrative
@@kjs257incpen3 If Im racist or not isn't even relevant, also "stalking", self defense would have been justified if for example Zimmerman lunged at him and tried to take him down. Also trayon was a dope dealing piece of trash so yeah Im glad he's not wasting oxygen anymore :)
Back in 2012 when I heard about Trayvon’s death I realized the world wasn’t so innocent. Little me in second grade realizing my color could be taken as a threat, I was so in shocked as a child it’s so much we don’t understand about what goes on in life or how people will perceive you, this really opened my eyes.
@TheDoobsisNotAmused Number one, 17 is an adult, similar to an 18, and a 19 year old, not a kid. Trayvon was 6'2, and physically strong, nothing like a 12 year old which the media keeps on showing him as. Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon, evidence is from the girlfriend of Trayvon speaking to the police, and many others.
Typical lying with a mass covering of soft-speak and non-ebonic-speak. It's so clear: GZ broke & bloodied his own nose, then he laid down and bashed the back of his head into the concrete walkway there. All the while as this was happening TM stood by and screamed 'help meee! Helppp,' over & over again. THEN GZ pulled TM on top of himself and shot him. Yes, that makes the most sense.
No its not, where did you go to school at? If you lose someone you aren't following them your looking for them. Not that it matters since its irrelevant, Zimmerman was legally allowed to do either.
Zimmerman didn’t want to use the gun. Only after Zimmerman’s cries for help went unanswered and Trayvon saw and went for the gun, then did Zimmerman need to use the gun to defend himself. Zimmerman showed great restraint by not immediately shooting Trayvon when Trayvon attacked.
Its funny cause all who go for GZ your fooling yourselves cause if he goes free he's not gonna live pretty long I can tell you that.The world is watching.
based off of what? After listening to the call between George and the police how could you say trayvon started anything?? He was just going home from the store. And some racist profiling dude confronts you. Would you have a problem with that???
Fair point, I guess but saying that any young person deserves to die is crass and you conveniently forget to mention that Zimmerman's past is not squeaky clean. Namely: Domestic violence, assaulting the police, alcoholism and possibly molesting his cousin for years.
Gz did not have to shoot Tm. Fight it out. Anyways he went looking for trouble when Tm want doing anything illegal except apparently "walking while black" rip trayvon
Zimmerman should have never left his car turning it into a on foot situation. What individual would want to follow a possible burglar that could have a gun himself especially at night. Zimmerman is at fault anyway you look at it whether Trayvon was black or white or brown. Let the police do their job, make the call, stay at a distance while giving location or last seen location of suspect, greet them as they arrive, and watch them do the rest.
You weren't there pal if you KNOW what happened why don't you testify on Zimmerman's behalf. 99% of people would have avoided that altercation in the first place. I bet Zimmerman will never do stupid shit like that again.
Enough with the racist rants! You say most young black people start fights but not all of them do. You can't judge a person until you walked a mile in their shoes. Trayvon was innocent I'm sure!
gz failed to identify himself as a neighborhood watchmen, he WAS NOT wearing an I.D Tag, nor was he in uniform. He left his vehicle armed with a depraved mind, angry at assholes and punks who always get away. gz had no authorization to accost anyone. He instigated and provoked the fight, lost the fight he started, then with evil intent he kills TM WITHOUT MERCY even though TM raised up his hands .TM was fighting to save his own life , if he had a gun he could have shot gz in SYG defense.
It is NOT against the law to be a member of your neighborhood watch, and in FACT, you do follow suspicious looking strangers in your neighborhood to locate them for further inspection by law enforcement. As George was looking for a house number to guide the police to his whereabouts, this is the point where the assailant, Trayvon Martin began his vicious attack. The BOTTOM LINE...no vicious gangbanger attack...no reason for the law abiding citizen to defend himself, FACT!!
A timeline shows he couldnt committed any crime on the day of the murder. How would he have the time to call 911 when he is being approached by a stranger?? The time from when zimmerman first called the police and the gunshot on the 911 call is an estimated 7 1/2 minutes. During that time trayvon is on the phone with his gf, gets disconnected twice before the confrontation happens.
he was not on private property. He was staying the night at his father's fiance place, a place where he visited before. The fight took place on the grassy sidewalk between to apartments. last time i checked everyone of every skin color can commit crimes.
how can there be a self defense when George was told he didn't need to follow trayvon and he still did...had he not done this, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Once he did, he should have to bear the brunt of whatever the outcome is. That is the BOTTOM LINE...no color need be looked at...only the statement of that FACT!
@@pdumpsterful why would Zimmerman be screaming? Please don't say "trayvon gripped his fat bald head in the rain in a way that Olympic wrestling jiu jitsu champions can't do and bashed his bald head dozens of times on concrete dozens of times even though he shot trayvon on the grass lawn yards away from the concrete". Save it. Why would Zimmerman be screaming when he had a gun and would have been preoccupied with getting to it to hold trayvon so he could aim the gun? Oh......I'm sure no way trayvon would be screaming while he was being held by Zimmerman so Zimmerman could position his gun and aim it on trayvon (and the bullet magically went on the heart right behind the large button trayvon was wearing, no way Zimmerman could have been pulling on the hoodie shirt while aiming, nooooo), now could it?
Normally I wouldn't but if my "kid" jumped the man and gave him a beat down and didn't let him go when he screamed for help and the neighbor told him to stop I would have to say the guy was justified. What if your kid was Zimmerman and Trayvon jumped him? Would you say he deserved to die even though he only followed someone?
@@derekwhitford5015 except that didnt happen. He was standing at the T when Trayvon came back and violently assaulted him. The police never told him to stand down. The thing is you justify Trayvons violence for being followed then logically you would also justify Zimmerman actions to being violently assaulted.
@@cuzz63 where exactly are you getting your facts? From what i gathered and listening is very crucial. The dispatcher told him not to follow him but he didnt listen. And from the way Zimmermans 911 call and listening to what was said by trayvon....you might wanna open your ears
You are not telling the truth. First of all as you have seen in court it is a normal functioning family, even the older brother is going to university. Second of all TM saw a creepy year old man following him and he started running away. That makes him scared for his life first. He had the right to fight back, when someone is after him. TM did do drugs however has NO criminal record. Unlike GZ who got arrested for attacking a cop. Next time a old man is following you, you should not fight back?
This guy at first said he did NOT think it was treyvon. Same with the father he did NOT think it was treyvon. On treyvons side everyone changed their minds as to who was screaming for help. On GZ side everyone knew it was GZ voice. Notice TM side has no one else to say its his voice. No friends family members to say for sure that it was TM voice. Cuz it wasnt.
For being a violent loser that got the support of people who are too lazy to do their own research on the case and think based on what the media spoon feeds em and along racial lines.
Zimmerman has a gun, follows Trayvon (Trayvon does not know why he is followed Fight happens so, I believe Trayvon would do the scream for help. Zimmerman (I believe having the gun and being the one following Trayvon would not scream but shoot if he felt so threatened.
if you can distinguish who's voice that is with that shitty quality.. you clearly have an objective in mind. the question is, and remains why would a man.. who approached another man.. yell in pain.. and then after the shot is fired the man is silenced, be that of my Zimmerman?? common sense shall be applied to the jury to make a clear assessment to those voices.
Some racist people? There are much more if you keep looking around and researching about this case. GZ is using the stand your ground law and it is quite ironic due to the fact that GZ was following him in a car with a gun. TM was scared for his life and while talking to Rachael he said he thought a rapist was following him. At first I thought TM fought back, but there is none of GZ blood on TM. He was killed without a chance to fight back!
What made Trayvon suspicious-looking?
Only George Zimmerman has a previous arrest record for violence. Not Trayvon.
nothing bernardo--zimmerman should have gone to jail
So hiding in the bushes to jump out and attack someone is NOT suspicious? And yes, trayvon had a long record
@@foolishdrunk2181 Yes. He also had videos on his Facebook of gang fights arranged by him.
@Alex Miller I think the main problem is that no one other than Zimmermann knows what happened at the start if the confrontation. As far as eye witnesses testimony, several changed their statements and others were add much later. You may think it was "murder" or it could have been "self defense" regardless we just don't know, and can't throw someone in jail on a hunch.
@@foolishdrunk2181 Trayvon's record wasnt the only thing LONG on him😛
if zimmerman had a gun. why would he need help. this is nuts. its trayvon being shot and yelling help.. or its george pretending to be a victim in order to build his case
ls00484592 OR you pretending to have a brain
Baker Mayweather why would you be scared when you have a gun dumbfuck. Zimmerman is a lying piece of shit.
Jumper Guy but that doesn't make any sense why didn't he use it earlier? HE HAD THE GUN not trayvon that doesn't matter
Because Zimmerman didn’t want to use the gun. Only after Zimmerman’s cries for help went unanswered and Trayvon saw and went for the gun, then did
Zimmerman need to use the gun to defend himself. Zimmerman showed great restraint by not immediately shooting Trayvon when Trayvon attacked.
The Forensics evidence, the State's own witness confirmed it was Treyvon on top.
Sad for your loss man.
23 Skiddoo naww you're just ignorant
@23 Skiddoo heartless asshole
@@TrunktenthesonOfVegetto what happened
Yeah that's the same thing that happens to none black race people alot just for passing by neighborhood areas where's alots of black race community ! People gets mugg Robb stalk and killed by black race people
we STILL RIDE FOR TRAY
Baker Mayweather Zimmerman is a murderer your argument is invalid
Baker Mayweather you don't like him cause he's black just admit it
Baker Mayweather and stop liking your own comment you lonely racist
23 Skiddoo get educated dumbass and I bet you do like using the n word you're trailer trash no wonder minorities don't like white people like you you're ignorant we didn't steal history it was found blacks are the original people why do you think Africas right by Egypt? Science also said it
egyptian wolf why the fuck are you arguing with him!? If he can't spell he can't spell you can already see he's clearly stupid...he writes 3 comments without speaking a full complete sentence
Very well spoken young man. I wish him the best going forward.
Lying on the witness stand.
@@brandonvandelden7972 lol. Yea I hope their family gets no money from the state, that would be the biggest tragedy of it all.
@@brandonvandelden7972 explain how he’s lying
@@kjs257incpen3 its when people are intentionally being disingenuous. It's called a lie.
@@jonbonbon8644 they did so choke on it
He's the big brother, he got a baby face.. Black don't crack! :)
you are an ass______
@@hannaheve868 me making fun of black people
@@teresalinton5898 he said Black don’t crack...
Shit, everyone cracks.
black don't smoke crack? What are you talking about...
Who screams if they're have a gun
@Michael Bowman jahahhajajaj. That's gangsta 💪😂
Someone who's tryna get away with murder.
@Michael Bowman The ignorance...
Who screams when they are on top beating someone on the bottom? Martin had no marks from a fist fight. Zimmerman had a bloody nose and head.
@@estebannemo1957 He was screaming help me AFTER HE GOT HIS ASS WHOOPED FOR FOLLOWING A STRANGER. IT WAS NOT HIS PLACE OR RIGHT TO FOLLOW HIM. AND THE COPS HIMSELF TOLD HIM NOT TO FOLLOW HIM. THE INSTRUCTED HIM NOT TO FOLLOW HIM. This is murder.
I think it's obvious that those screams were no ordinary yells for help. In the background of those 911 calls you can hear screams that you only hear in horror movies. Whoever was screaming THAT way believed that he was going to die any second and Zimmerman had no reason to think like that. Even if he thought tall and skinny Trayvon could beat him up he still wouldn't have screamed with that sort of hysteria.
Zimmerman claimed it was himself doing that screaming and complained that no neighbors came outside to help him. Actually the neighbors helped by calling 911 inside their own homes but screams of terror made them feel too scared to come outside to help out. Maybe if they were ordinary yells for help then maybe people wouldn't be so afraid to come outside..
It was clearly fucking Trayvon screaming. Give me a reason for why it was Zimmerman screaming
Roast God It was not Trayvon screaming it was George Zimmerman
it was travon screaming bc travons black and z isnt.
Because it was ZIMMERMAN who was getting his ass handed to him. How many people do YOU know who scream for help when THEY are beating the shit out of someone?
Why would Trayvon think he was going to die? He was on top beating the shit out of Zimmerman...the only person that logically would have been screaming was Zimmerman.
They killed a boy that was just going to the store 😢
Maria Garcia good
LMFAO
First of all, moron...he had LEFT the store more than a half hour before he was killed.
Second, he was killed because he was beating the shit out of someone who reasonably believed there was no alternative but to shoot the thug delivering the beating.
That "he was just going to the store" argument is totally ignorant of the evidence!
Jumper Guy So you completely ignore that fact that he was being followed by an armed man that out weighed him by 100 pounds?
First of all, how about you get your facts straight.
1 - According to the autopsy report, Trayvon Martin was 5'11" and weighed 158lbs.
2. When Zimmerman was questioned by police the night of the shooting, the police report indicates he stood about 5'8" and weighed 200lbs.
So, the difference isn't 100lbs, like you claim...but roughly 42lbs, less than HALF what YOU say.
Now, even at 42lbs difference, I don't ignore the difference between Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin's weights at all. But it doesn't seem to have mattered much to Trayvon, since the evidence shows several things:
1) After exiting his vehicle, Zimmerman never stepped south of the east-west sidewalk, even though he had observed Trayvon to have gone in that direction.
2) The point near the "T" intersection of two sidewalks (where Trayvon was last seen during the phone call with the dispatcher) was a moderate walk of about 90 seconds tops to where Trayvon was staying. Meaning, if he WANTED to, he could have simply walked home, and Zimmerman never would have seen him again; however, in the nearly two full minutes that were remaining on Zimmerman's phone call with the dispatcher, Trayvon Martin did NOT go home. Instead, after the phone call ended, he was still near where he had last been seen several minutes earlier.
3) Both the verbal and physical encounter were initiated by Trayvon Martin himself.
So, you see. While YOU may lend weight (not pun intended) to their physiological differences, it doesn't appear to have mattered to Trayvon Martin himself. That kind of makes it a little bit irrelevant - what YOU think the differences in their weight means.
it was the victim's voice screaming for help.
kkrr00nnicc420 yes, Zimmerman. He was the victim.
@@bigpapi2658 victim of being scared of a black boy minding his business ?
Lying on the witness stand.
@@bigpapi2658 shut up clown
@@ashleymclean8261 he wasn't minding his own business idiot, He was walking on private property looking into people's apartments. And we have texts from his thug father telling him to " case" some houses and obtain a gun for robbing the inhabitants
It's understandable that tray beat him up. He thought he was being followed by some random guy who could have evil intentions
Its pretty understandable why Zimmerman shot Trayvon and the jury found him not guilty, Trayvon actually did have evil intentions/
@@seanakridge2971 defending from what? Lets say you justify Travon's actions as self defense from the perceived threat of a neighborhood watch then you would also justify Zimmerman's actions as self defense from the actual violent assault. Trayvon defended himself from no threat while Zimmerman defended himself from having his brains beat in. Why did Trayvon go back 100 yards and commit a violent assault? Why didnt he just go inside and lock the door or do what ZImmerman did and call the police?
No Trayvon did not hide on John Goodes patio. Trayvon told Rachel that he ran home, he never mentioned hiding. Which means that Trayvon came back the 100 yards to assault Zimmerman. Zimmerman was still there at the T about 20 yards from his vehicle. So unless there were aliens involved its only logical to assume Trayvon went back. Bottom line though is that had he not violently assaulted Zimmerman he wouldnt have been killed.
@@cuzz63 Have you ever noticed that people who defend Trayvon never mention that Trayvon was mounted on Zimmerman and punching him in the face before he got shot? They always start by saying that Zimmerman got out of his car and followed Trayvon, and then they jump right to the moment where Trayvon was shot, completely leaving out everything that happened in between. I think this is because they know that Trayvon was assaulting Zimmerman while Zimmerman screamed for help for 45 seconds, completely justifying the shooting. Anyone who listens to the tape of those screams knows that it is Zimmerman's voice and not Trayvon's. It sounds exactly like Zimmerman, and sounds nothing like Trayvon. So, rather than dealing honestly with the facts, they would rather create a narrative and pretend that things did not happen the way they did.
@@jtstevenson81 , the people who defend Trayvon have to either ignore the assault or justify it by some strange logic. The false narrative they usually claim is that he was minding his own business which is not even logical on the face of it since he was shot in the middle of a violent assault. Often they claim that Zimmerman ignored the police dispatcher which was proven false by the evidence and its also common for them to claim he was told to stay in his vehicle when he wasnt. They also try to minimize Zimmerman injuries to say Trayvon didnt plan to hurt him.
Alcohol is 1,000 times more dangerous than weed will ever be. Them trying to say Trayvon was high and that's why he attacked is absolutely ridiculous. Even the medical examiner was like wtf
Actually, the medical examiner also ruled that the burn pattern of the bullet hole on Martin’s shirt indicated that he was sitting upright hanging over Zimmerman at the time that he was shot. Just like neighbor Jon Goode’s testimony about the guy in the red shirt (Zimmerman) lying on the ground and the guy in the gray shirt (Martin) straddling him and beating him up.
@@sean2015 All true, not to forget the notion that a medical examiner is qualified to testify to the likely effects of an unpredictable drug reaction in an individual...is absurd and irrelevant.
Two things can be true: Zimmerman shouldn't have kept following Martin once the police were called, and Martin shouldn't have went back to attack and beat Zimmerman which could reasonably have led to Zimmerman's death if he had not defended himself the only way he could in that moment being held down by a younger man of superior size and strength.
The way the media and crooked politicians have distorted and exploited this case for over a decade has been an international disgrace, and has led to causing more bloodshed and racial division and misunderstanding in the Country than any time in the past 60 years
@@sean2015Zimmerman should’ve never followed him , play stupid games win stupid prizes , unfortunately a gun was involved by the aggressor so the “man” who was getting beat up for harassment got away with M1.
@@notarapper04 Zimmerman didn't follow him you dummy, because he lost sight of him after Martin took off running (you can't follow someone you can’t see, obviously). Martin made it to within 100 feet of his front door, but instead of going inside and locking the door, he stood there in the pouring rain for 4+ minutes talking on the phone with his girlfriend. Cell phone records (which had to be subpoenaed because Martin’s father refused to turn them over) PROVED this fact. Then Martin turned right back around and walked 300 feet in the opposite direction where he confronted Zimmerman and sucker-punched him.
Martin is responsible for his own stupid decisions.
_What's the matter snowflake? Aren't you gonna call me a 'rathist' now?_
Bye Zimmerman! You're fucking pathetic and will always be pathetic for the rest of your pathetic life! Whether or not you defended yourself, you had to defend your old 30+ year old self against a kid that was just trying to get home and you're never going to live this down! Fuck You, You fucking animal deadass!!@@sean2015
Why would Trayvon be screaming? He had no marks ok his face from a fight. It was Zimmerman that had the bloodied face and head.
Exactly! Trayvon had no wounds on his body other than the bullet wound. These Leftists can't stand to hear facts.
It’s Trayvon that’s dead, not Zimmerman. Why would Zimmerman scream when he had a gun?
@@pokerworld what difference would a gun make?
The case is he was not robbing anyone nor causing any problems the police said don't follow him he was a kid!
You dont seem to realize that Trayvon was shot in the middle of a violent assault. The very definition of causing problems.
@Bo Stephens you seem to not know or care that Trayvon was shot in the middle of a violent assault, he was not on his phone minding his own business, why he did so is anyone's guess as Rachel wasnt that forthcoming on that . Zimmerman didnt need to make anything up, even if Trayvon had killed him or put him in a coma we would know what happened because of the evidence, nobody convinced me anyone was a serial killer, not sure why you say that.
Yes America is easily deceived, the media played you and you still dont even know it....do some basic research on the facts then come back.
@Bo Stephens Spiritual folks dont believe facts and evidence? Really?
@Bo Stephenswhat other testimony would Zimmerman had given if it was the truth? Did it ever occur to you that what he claimed happened actually did? The media pushed a false narrative and you fell for it instead of looking at the evidence and applying logic. Of course we dont have Trayvon's side since he was killed but we have plenty of other evidence. The only problem with your supposition is that Trayvon went back and assaulted Zimmerman, you cant base your premise off a false claim.
cuzz63 Are being ignorant on purpose or are you just naturally ignorant and stupid???
He was the guest of a person living there and was walking to get to that place. He cut through a place that was available to cut through because it had entry ways to the public sidewalk, according to the layout picture of the property.
So no one is commenting on the fact he was caught lying
No it's common sense. Being in denial and not wanting to believe that was his brother makes sense. It's only stupid people like you that are judging a teen for grieving
@@jayandny. Nope you moron. Being in denial and lying are two different things. Only a race.. .
@@jayandny. card playing idiot like...
@@jayandny. you doesn't know that. He's not "in denial" at all, idiot. He's lying... badly.
That makes no sense at all. wtf why WOULDN'T you scream if someone pulls a gun on u when ur both struggling on the ground. You're about to die, you're going to be scared. Why would Zimmerman scream though? Who pulls a gun on someone and screams fearfully before they shoot? And the voice is not one of a grown man, it's adolescent. It's so obvious. I can't believe people actually buy into Zimmerman's story.
It makes no sense that Martin was screaming. Screaming from what? He had taken Zimmerman to the ground, mounted him, and was punching him in the face and slamming his head into the ground. This is corroborated by police photos of Zimmerman's busted nose and bloody scalp. Martin's face and head were untouched.
The "busted nose" of Zimmerman was clearly a doctored photo. It was taken by Officer Michael Wagner on his personal iphone and then released into evidence a month later. The " taken Zimmerman to the ground, mounted him, and was punching him in the face" was Zimmerman's claim which he was never testified/cross examined for. Trayvon's autopsy showed he had no injury to either his hands or his wrists. Zimmerman shot Trayvon on the grass lawn yards away from the concrete. Try again.
It would make sense that Zimmerman had body gripped Trayvon for Trayvon to have been screaming. The voice analysis had ruled out Zimmerman as the screamer (but couldnt say Trayvon because Trayvon had no voice sample). Zimmerman himself had said it wasn't him screaming.
No healthy adult with a gun would be screaming when they have a gun and are doing what they can to get to and use the gun. Screaming, like tapping out, is also a sign of submission when you are not able to do anything else.
The screams ended immediately at the exact instant the shot was fired. Had it been Zimmerman screaming, he would have continued screaming after the shot (in fact, Zimmerman was described as cool, calm and collected immediately after. There are grown men who are still shaken after being robbed at gunpoint when they thought their life would end). Trayvon's autopsy showed that at the instant he was shot, he had pneumothorax. He couldn't vocalize from that point, hence why the screams ended immediately at the exact instant the shot was fired.
It was Trayvon screaming. Not Zimmerman.
@@naitthegr8131 100% lies and bullshit.
Why would Trayvon be screaming? Was Zimmerman whupping his ass?
There is a lot of evidence disputing that and even if, if a creepy old man followed you and tried to detain you what would you do?
@@DavidSwe The answer lies in the police dispatcher transcripts. Martin approached Zimmerman's car while Zimmerman was on the phone with the police. Then, Martin inexplicably turned and started to run. Zimmerman started to run after him but (contrary to media memes) stopped when the operator advised him not to. He then arranged to meet with the police back at his car. This is all in the transcripts. On the way to the car Martin confronted him and a fight ensued. Martin didn't have a mark on his face or head, while Zimmerman had a busted nose, lip and back of the head. Zimmerman never "followed" Martin because he didnt have him in sight. He was looking for Martin a maximum of 20 seconds before the police dispatcher stopped him.
I feel bad for that whole family . His brother is very well spoken
Such a thtrong young man! And Trump is a rathist! Oh honey I can’t even!
So they told him don't follow him then he still do with a gun weighing 250 ..let that been black Guy 🤔🤔🤔
R.I.P TRAYVON MARTIN
No
John Houghland stfu u racist
They need to stop with the question, we all know that was trayvon
@Damin Mance Yup it was Trayvon who was trying to kill George and George was yelling for help.
Fortunately George had his gun and shot Trayvon to save his own life.
@@truthonly5716 George killed a kid he is a fool.
No it wasnt. Several witneses should have gotten perjury charges here.
Also, Zimmerman did NOT continue to follow Trayvon. Both the 911 call and Trayvon's friend on the phone confirms that Zimmerman lost track of Trayvon. You can't follow someone you lost. In any case, getting out of the vehicle and even following Trayvon isn't illegal or even improper.
Good answer! I like how when those trolls tried to trip him up he served them with that quick answer.
Trayvon Thug Martin WAS THE ATTACKER, FACT! Neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, should NOT have been arrested, he should have been given a medal, a parade and the key to the city!
Oh please , than I should be the queen of England.
Rest in paradise Trayvon Martin
My heart goes out to Trayvon's Family. A young smart Man ;)
A young SMART man? Really? The thug was suspended from School THREE times...TWICE in the past few months before his death! One time he was suspended for SKIPPING school. He had stolen jewelry in his possession when he was questioned after school cops captured him on video vandalizing school property. Another time, he had traces of marijuana and a drug pipe in his possession. He posed with pot, guns and a grill I his teeth. He drank "Lean" routinely, and posted about it on social media!! You and the SANE world have different definitions of the word "smart". He was STUPID!
Mrsonicslash5 You don't have a fucking clue. Why do you assume ehen there is so much evidence. By the way you stupid racist fuck...I am black.
You're telling ME to edit MY reply? I need remedial English?
You wrote: "There was no account as to how they needed up fighting..."???? NEEDED up fighting??? Seriously??
I'm here to call your opinion of the specifics very biased and it's a shame that your backwoods, inbred cousin-fucking mindset has to resort to racist language. But that's par for the course for people who call their uncle "Daddy".
Of COURSE you don't need MY permission to do Anything, or to interpret the evidence in any particular way. Feel free to pull facts and opinions out of your ass as much as you feel necessary.
You wrote: "Maybe you do not have anything better to do but to reply to TH-cam comments. It’s my Saturday go ahead and fuck your self the people who work need this time to rest."
Well, apparently THAT'S not true - that you have better things to do. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Trayvon was a young man, 17 years old with still a lot to learn in this world, a lot of changes to go through, his life had no reason to be taken. Zimmerman and the justice system is wrong
Michael Bowman You knew Trayvon personally? No? Than shut the hell up because you sound STUPID.
Trayvon's background?!?! Zimmerman has been arrested 3 times one of which when he attacked an Undercover cop who was known as a law officer because he had arrested Zimmerman's friend and GZ got pissed. The fact that you convict Trayvon of being a crook when the fool was going to buy skittles is absurd. He wasn't going to rob any house in the rain the fool was going home. Zimmerman has a violent record. Trayvon was 17 years old, the fool barely had a record.
I think any jury would never ruled against this verdict that was not self defense ..... the prosecutors failure to emphasize that caused that trayvon zimmerman hurtling to beat for fear of a weapon.... remember! zimmerman in his own words confessed that when trayvon approached him try to find his phone that had been more effective than the lie that the screams were from trayvon voice no jury would have believed such a lie
yeah i know...he just started walking in the same direction...duh it's still called following...
Its called stalking
it's not following if you lose sight of the guy, duhhh
But he was INSTRUCTED by 911 operators to STAY IN THE VEHICLE. He decided not to and continued to follow Trayvon. He could have let the police handle the situation. He could have stayed in his car until they got there but he wanted to play cop that day.
The facts prove those were the screams of Trayvon.
Yeah....that's why his own FATHER told the cops when he had JUST heard the 911 call that it was NOT his son.
But you have yet to back up your DELUSIONAL statement that Trayvon instigated the fight. Facts tell us that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation by getting out of his vehicle.
he was creeping around homes in the dark while it was raining. then when he saw Zimmerman he mean mugged him circled his truck and made gestures to his waist. had he stayed on the sidewalk or walked down the street like a normal person we wouldn't be having this discussion.
If I'm in my house and see a suspicious guy walking between houses, and I go outside to check him out, I'm instigating a fight with him?
If he was white would he b suspicious
just like CNN to show this video, but leave out his own dad denying that it was trayvon.
where did you find out he was a gang banger...most gang bangers probably carry a piece on them cause they never know who gonna run up on them.......i think they incident happened at the back of the building and the house numbers are probably on the FRONT of the building where cars drive..so he could have stayed in his car and got the house number...come on...THINK! the same way people say Trayvon should have identified himself, George could have identified himself...he's the adult!
“I heard him yell but not like that…” that’s when he messed up. #RIPTrayvonMartin
Why would Trayvon be screaming? Was Zimmerman beating his ass?
@Jesse Shtino watch the trayvon hoax. It's on TH-cam
@@pdumpsterfulbecause Trayvon wasn’t the one screaming. It was Zimmerman.
_Aren’t you gonna call me a rathist now?_
@@sean2015 it was zimboy screaming
@@pdumpsterful you’re preaching to the choir my man. I already know the truth behind the Trayvon hoax despite the efforts of MSDNC and Ben Chump to frame their narrative
Waves on swim!
"Trayvon instigated the fight." Wasn't it Zimmerman who was following Trayvon?....Lol,
You need to learn basics of law, being followed doesn't give you a right to attack anyone
@@RhodesianSAS-gn4qp There’s a thing called stalking
@@RhodesianSAS-gn4qp Zimmerman started it
@@RhodesianSAS-gn4qp Just say you’re racist and go on
@@kjs257incpen3
If Im racist or not isn't even relevant, also "stalking", self defense would have been justified if for example Zimmerman lunged at him and tried to take him down.
Also trayon was a dope dealing piece of trash so yeah Im glad he's not wasting oxygen anymore :)
My prayers and thoughts go out to Trayvon Martin's Family
Back in 2012 when I heard about Trayvon’s death I realized the world wasn’t so innocent. Little me in second grade realizing my color could be taken as a threat, I was so in shocked as a child it’s so much we don’t understand about what goes on in life or how people will perceive you, this really opened my eyes.
To people who defend Zimmerman: THEY TOLD HIM NOT TO FOLLOW THE KID!!! ARE YOU GUYS DEAF? HUH?!! HE FREAKING FOLLOWED THE KID!!
@TheDoobsisNotAmused Number one, 17 is an adult, similar to an 18, and a 19 year old, not a kid. Trayvon was 6'2, and physically strong, nothing like a 12 year old which the media keeps on showing him as. Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon, evidence is from the girlfriend of Trayvon speaking to the police, and many others.
Zimmerman will WALK!
Trayvon's brother just saved Zimmerman's life :)
TheJking85 why are you happy about that?
It mind me of the amber trial how the brother try save her life
Typical lying with a mass covering of soft-speak and non-ebonic-speak. It's so clear: GZ broke & bloodied his own nose, then he laid down and bashed the back of his head into the concrete walkway there. All the while as this was happening TM stood by and screamed 'help meee! Helppp,' over & over again. THEN GZ pulled TM on top of himself and shot him. Yes, that makes the most sense.
God may you keep your boys safe because there are Angels
Sorry for your loss Jahvarius 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
No its not, where did you go to school at? If you lose someone you aren't following them your looking for them. Not that it matters since its irrelevant, Zimmerman was legally allowed to do either.
his brother is so composed and strong ❤️
disrepectful questions like these are exactly why Zimmerman is harassing his own lawyer.
Zimmerman didn’t want to use the gun. Only after Zimmerman’s cries for help went unanswered and Trayvon saw and went for the gun, then did Zimmerman need to use the gun to defend himself. Zimmerman showed great restraint by not immediately shooting Trayvon when Trayvon attacked.
Attorney tell brother to lie on stand, who lieing
Its funny cause all who go for GZ your fooling yourselves cause if he goes free he's not gonna live pretty long I can tell you that.The world is watching.
It was zimmerman screaming. Go back to wakanda.
Why would the mayor be involved with this case? Is this standard procedure?
based off of what? After listening to the call between George and the police how could you say trayvon started anything?? He was just going home from the store. And some racist profiling dude confronts you. Would you have a problem with that???
I actually believe him that he wasn’t sure if it was him BECUASE of the denial. I don’t fault him for thya
Fair point, I guess but saying that any young person deserves to die is crass and you conveniently forget to mention that Zimmerman's past is not squeaky clean. Namely: Domestic violence, assaulting the police, alcoholism and possibly molesting his cousin for years.
Martins own dad said it was not Trayvon.
Gz did not have to shoot Tm. Fight it out. Anyways he went looking for trouble when Tm want doing anything illegal except apparently "walking while black" rip trayvon
Love you George! Great man you are!! 👍
He shouldnt have said "not like that" but then again it makes it seem like hes being honest
"...shock and denial and sadness." Rehearsed much.
In grievance much?
God will make a way for black people.
It’s called a ship back to Africa
He DID make a way for black people.
The same way He made for everyone else - repentance, and faith in Jesus Christ.
if i was in his shoes i'll be in denial to .... love all 6 of my siblings
Zimmerman should have never left his car turning it into a on foot situation. What individual would want to follow a possible burglar that could have a gun himself especially at night. Zimmerman is at fault anyway you look at it whether Trayvon was black or white or brown. Let the police do their job, make the call, stay at a distance while giving location or last seen location of suspect, greet them as they arrive, and watch them do the rest.
show me where they did this.. lets see how they feel when we release their information
You weren't there pal if you KNOW what happened why don't you testify on Zimmerman's behalf. 99% of people would have avoided that altercation in the first place. I bet Zimmerman will never do stupid shit like that again.
Enough with the racist rants! You say most young black people start fights but not all of them do. You can't judge a person until you walked a mile in their shoes. Trayvon was innocent I'm sure!
gz failed to identify himself as a neighborhood watchmen, he WAS NOT wearing an I.D Tag, nor was he in uniform. He left his vehicle armed with a depraved mind, angry at assholes and punks who always get away. gz had no authorization to accost anyone. He instigated and provoked the fight, lost the fight he started, then with evil intent he kills TM WITHOUT MERCY even though TM raised up his hands .TM was fighting to save his own life , if he had a gun he could have shot gz in SYG defense.
the fiance's son testified this. he was guest that been there before.
It is NOT against the law to be a member of your neighborhood watch, and in FACT, you do follow suspicious looking strangers in your neighborhood to locate them for further inspection by law enforcement. As George was looking for a house number to guide the police to his whereabouts, this is the point where the assailant, Trayvon Martin began his vicious attack. The BOTTOM LINE...no vicious gangbanger attack...no reason for the law abiding citizen to defend himself, FACT!!
The police specifically told Zimmerman NOT to follow Trayvon and neighborhood watch can’t try to detain anyone especially since he was self appointed
why was he suspicious? and he wasn't walking in between houses. and Zimmerman was following him in his truck, not inside his house.
GZ (his race doesn't matter) sees a suspicious person (his race doesn't matter) and calls the cops. What is your problem with this?
Justice 4 Trayvon Martin
he was staying at his father's fiance's home. He was at least 45 seconds from her complex.
A timeline shows he couldnt committed any crime on the day of the murder. How would he have the time to call 911 when he is being approached by a stranger?? The time from when zimmerman first called the police and the gunshot on the 911 call is an estimated 7 1/2 minutes. During that time trayvon is on the phone with his gf, gets disconnected twice before the confrontation happens.
He got destroyed by Mr. O'Mara. So many lies from the Martins.
he was not on private property. He was staying the night at his father's fiance place, a place where he visited before. The fight took place on the grassy sidewalk between to apartments. last time i checked everyone of every skin color can commit crimes.
how can there be a self defense when George was told he didn't need to follow trayvon and he still did...had he not done this, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Once he did, he should have to bear the brunt of whatever the outcome is. That is the BOTTOM LINE...no color need be looked at...only the statement of that FACT!
Most people commenting here are ignorant of the facts that came out in the trial.
Even the juror most sympathetic and biased in favor of Zimmerman admitted Zimmerman exaggerated and lied about so much of his story.
@Steve Bishop zimmerman didn't even speak, idiot. what color's the sky on your world?
@Steve Bishop and you are just that, a 100% complete fool.
Why would Trayvon be screaming?
@@pdumpsterful why would Zimmerman be screaming? Please don't say "trayvon gripped his fat bald head in the rain in a way that Olympic wrestling jiu jitsu champions can't do and bashed his bald head dozens of times on concrete dozens of times even though he shot trayvon on the grass lawn yards away from the concrete". Save it.
Why would Zimmerman be screaming when he had a gun and would have been preoccupied with getting to it to hold trayvon so he could aim the gun?
Oh......I'm sure no way trayvon would be screaming while he was being held by Zimmerman so Zimmerman could position his gun and aim it on trayvon (and the bullet magically went on the heart right behind the large button trayvon was wearing, no way Zimmerman could have been pulling on the hoodie shirt while aiming, nooooo), now could it?
Normally I wouldn't but if my "kid" jumped the man and gave him a beat down and didn't let him go when he screamed for help and the neighbor told him to stop I would have to say the guy was justified. What if your kid was Zimmerman and Trayvon jumped him? Would you say he deserved to die even though he only followed someone?
If my kid was Zimmerman. He deserved to get beat up for following someone, especially if police told him to stand down.
@@derekwhitford5015 except that didnt happen. He was standing at the T when Trayvon came back and violently assaulted him. The police never told him to stand down. The thing is you justify Trayvons violence for being followed then logically you would also justify Zimmerman actions to being violently assaulted.
@@derekwhitford5015 at least stick to facts.
@@cuzz63 where exactly are you getting your facts? From what i gathered and listening is very crucial. The dispatcher told him not to follow him but he didnt listen. And from the way Zimmermans 911 call and listening to what was said by trayvon....you might wanna open your ears
Makes no logical sense. Trayvon was on top winning the fight, why would he scream for help?
You are not telling the truth. First of all as you have seen in court it is a normal functioning family, even the older brother is going to university. Second of all TM saw a creepy year old man following him and he started running away. That makes him scared for his life first. He had the right to fight back, when someone is after him. TM did do drugs however has NO criminal record. Unlike GZ who got arrested for attacking a cop. Next time a old man is following you, you should not fight back?
It was Zimmerman. Treyvon didn't go home and got shot in the front not back. Zimmerman had the defensive wounds.
Well kept young man.
Weed is ussually safer than alcohol but its also a gateway drug that is related to violence, so is it really safer then alcohol?
Why would the mayor be involved?
This guy at first said he did NOT think it was treyvon. Same with the father he did NOT think it was treyvon. On treyvons side everyone changed their minds as to who was screaming for help. On GZ side everyone knew it was GZ voice. Notice TM side has no one else to say its his voice. No friends family members to say for sure that it was TM voice. Cuz it wasnt.
Its sad we have remember dude like this
Travon will always be remembered ! #riptravon
For being a violent loser that got the support of people who are too lazy to do their own research on the case and think based on what the media spoon feeds em and along racial lines.
yea as a criminal thug who got due justice!
@@jonbonbon8644 he wasn’t a Criminal or a Thug ya racist prick
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His true words said nothing about race, you gdmfn.
That is Zimmerman's voice. Why would Martin be screaming with a gun pointed at him?
carmencommode he was being attacked dumbass
Zimmerman has a gun, follows Trayvon (Trayvon does not know why he is followed Fight happens so, I believe Trayvon would do the scream for help. Zimmerman (I believe having the gun and being the one following Trayvon would not scream but shoot if he felt so threatened.
if you can distinguish who's voice that is with that shitty quality.. you clearly have an objective in mind. the question is, and remains why would a man.. who approached another man.. yell in pain.. and then after the shot is fired the man is silenced, be that of my Zimmerman?? common sense shall be applied to the jury to make a clear assessment to those voices.
Some racist people? There are much more if you keep looking around and researching about this case. GZ is using the stand your ground law and it is quite ironic due to the fact that GZ was following him in a car with a gun. TM was scared for his life and while talking to Rachael he said he thought a rapist was following him. At first I thought TM fought back, but there is none of GZ blood on TM. He was killed without a chance to fight back!
Lol zimmerman is innocent . Take stereotypical black racists!!!
Glad I don't live in Florida with open carry permits
did it say he was on drugs??/ during a previous break-in???..they should clarify if this is all this one case.