My husband just bought me this machine for Christmas and I hope I can learn. I used to sew blue jeans at Levi Strauss back in the 90s but I know nothing about home sewing machines. We no longer have sewing factories anywhere around Tennessee that I know of.
It is nothing like the industrial machines you used in your factory. However, it is a good domestic machine. Hopefully, you will bond with it. It will be helpful that you have some experience sewing though vs a newbie that has zero experience.
Yes this is the type foot my Janone 9000 has that keeps the foot level button. Watching a marathon of your videos today :) Will like and comment hope that helps
I was looking at the Singer HD 4432 but started hearing a lot of complaints about the pedal being too sensitive and making it hard to control it / make it go slower without modifying it. Do you know if the pedal on the ST371HD provides better control?
I was able to slow mine down. See this video: th-cam.com/video/Kgxf2OXfxro/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TIoyCe4Bm7Rz59SZ Be aware that some of the machines don't ship with this pedal.
@@kevinsews Thanks, I did see that video earlier but I have no idea what kind of pedal my country has for it unfortunately :( Would rather not to have to open up the pedal in any case, so that's why I was wondering about whether the ST371HD maybe could be a little better in that aspect at least
Like your testing videos. Also appreciate that you share what kind of thread you use. Based on your past videos, I was able to pick up a Kenmore 52 tank with a 1.2 amp motor.
That'll do the job! Those old "tanks" are VERY strong, especially with 1.2 amps. Brother makes excellent machines for regular sewing and quilting, but the best vintage Kenmores will go through almost anything. I'm one of many who collect vintage "Kennies"; sometimes we (fondly) call them Boat Anchors. 😁
I've watched so many comparison videos I'm dizzy. I have both the Brother 371HD and the Singer SD4452. I sew thick fabrics and I love that the presser foot on the brother goes higher than the Singer. The Brother also has some other features I like, but I won't use all those stitches. I don't know where to set the settings for normal sewing. The Singer seems simpler. The Brother is quieter. I'm just so confused... HELP... What Should I choose??? I can't keep them both!
Hi Kevin, I wonder if you are using a 110V socket... here in Europe I have the same machine plugged into a 230V socket and it goes way easier than in this video - do you think it could be due to the voltage difference? Or is that irrelevant for these machines? I'm not an electrician, so I don't know for sure, but something tells me that it's the 110V that makes this seem to struggle. But I might be totally wrong, what do you think?
I was using some 40+ year old pair Levi's jeans that are extremely dense. I have been using them from the very beginning on all of my domestic sewing machine test in order to keep the testing equal. Just about all machines will hem the thinner jeans of today.
Hi, I have a new Husqvarna/Viking Jade 20 and cannot sew over a thick cotton/fusible backing seam with regular foot. I need to give the foot some help by straightening the back out with a wedge but that doesn't always work. I'm tired of it. Walking foot works OK for the thicker seams but then I'm stuck with just doing a straight stitch. Would you recommend this machine or a Singer? I'm sewing primarily with cotton and some cotton backing or with thin fusible interfacing would probably never use denim or leather on my projects. Thanks!
I bought one of these machines recently and I still haven't figured out how to make it go slow. Maybe I just haven't mastered the foot pedal but I feel like even with the smallest pressure it just shoots through the fabric a zillion stitches per second. So I would really really appreciate it if you could explain how you can make it go so slow??
@@kevinsews I've been using a 1956 White for over forty years, so I'm spoiled when it comes to heavy duty. But I think some of the Brother HD features make it annoying in general. What I've found: The lighting is awful, the foot pedal cord is about eight inches too short to be comfortably placed anywhere near your foot without moving the sewing machine to the edge of the table, the adjustment dials do not adjust smoothly, etc. etc. etc. I noticed you use an external spindle, and I fully expect the plastic one on the machine to break in the next six months. Probably good for basic sewing, but I would hate to make adjustments on a regular basis.
@@lucygray6162 As they say, they don't make them like they use to. I think they believe most people are just going to use the machine once a year and them throw it into the closest.
What size needle comes in the machine? Do you know? I know the extras come with it. I can’t get the needle out! I loosened it all the way and pulled and pulled. I’m working on a denim and flannel rag quilt.
Wow, this is so cool that you make such informative videos on sewing!!!! This just came up in my feed randomly and I am so glad it did! I appreciate your knowledge! I have only hand sewn my whole life, but I need a machine for denim. Which machine would you recommend for a beginner who is in need of a machine that is novice friendly and is strong enough to use on denim and leather? Thank you for all of the expertise you impart! It is so cool that you do! Have a great day and stay well!
Jennifer Rose Rocks Take a look at the Janome HD1000. Be advised that any domestic machine is not designed to sew very thick leather. If that is something you plan on sewing often I would take take a look at an older all metal machine.
Very cool Kevin!!! Will do!!! I mainly need it for denim projects, so I will check out the Janome. Do you have any thoughts on the Singer 4432? If not no worries! I appreciate your speedy response! Please stay well! You are awesome!
Jennifer Rose Rocks I have Several of the Singer Heavy Duty machines and they have all been great for me. Just be aware that I know how to fix them if the timing goes off, etc...
I often sew heavy stretch twill and my Singer 6180 is constantly breaking needles. Would you recommend this or the Singer 4423 (the manual states it also has a stretch setting)? The denim result looks similar, but the bobbin thread on this knit is just horrible. I was actually looking at the Singer 9960, but I'm not convinced it'll do as well for heavy trenchcoats and denim clothes. Any advice is most welcome!
Yes, it has a stretch stitch. The Singer 9960 is a great machine. For heavy duty materials is would look at the Sailrite machine or one of the generic versions offered for less money by other mfgs.
@@kevinsews thanks for your reply. What qualifies as heavy duty? I want to sew some jeans, denim vests and canvas/linen coats, but also light weight blouses, but not upholstery or anything like that. Strangely enough, there's little to offer here in the Netherlands in the heavy duty market. I'm also looking at quilting, for which the 9960 is probably the best, but I don't want to ruin it on the jeans. The denim I'm looking at is 360g/m2 or 10oz/yd2. Any way you can advise me?
@@DutchThroat hello Jan I also live in holland and am also looking for one for the same reasons as you. Seeing that your comment is a year old, I am wondering what you bought and if it is recommended. Hopefully you read this comment.
@@monkey_ish4117 Shortly after I bought a Singer QS 9960. It's not built for power though. I've even created a few quilts, which I never imagined I'd do but that's where this machine shines. I love the ease of use and wide array of accessories. The old machines are collecting dust now.
@@DutchThroat hartelijk bedank voor het reply ( a million thanks for your reply). I will have to keep on looking then, I'm planning on making hoodies, shirts and jeans (maybe chinos) so I will need a heavy one.
Great video! 👍👍👍 Never thought of hammering thick denim hem. Also didn't know that some machine doesn't take size 18 thick needle like this Brother & that needle size 16 eye was too small for that leather but amazing that it worked well for the jean hem (on the leather, was the fabric feeder down?) Useful demo for stretch fabric too as I've never sewn stretch fabric so it was so helpful as to needle & thread info. I considered buying this Brother last year because of the "tough" label .... going to check if you tested the Singer Heavy Duty, the mechanical AND computerized that i'm considering.
Great review, Kevin. One of my three machines is the Singer Heavy Duty 4423. It's a pretty tough workhorse. I just wish the exterior wasn't plastic, but that's the nature of today's construction of the home sewing machines. Do you have any opinion on Janome brand (formerly New Home)?
@@peteruveges1976 I would go with the Singer Classic offered at Walmart if you are in the USA. Otherwise, I would go with any model other than the 4411 because it is missing the needle threaded and a couple of other features included with the other machines - like extra feet, etc...
I just saw a vid on this stitching 10 layers of both denim & leather! I heard that the threading needs to be redone on both top and bottom if changing the tension. Oh, and the thread being placed on the wire/pin sticking out by the bobbin to prevent bundling of thread. Any thing's you do differently now?
Nope! I was using bonded nylon, which is a requirement when sewing leather. That is what caused the problem. Using standard clothing thread it will sew the leather, but that is useless since the leather will eventually eat through the thread.
That is a not good humming sound coming from the motor of the machine especially when going through the thick part of the jeans hem. That means that the motor are not powerful enough to provide the necessary torque to run the machine. It will potentially burn the motor. If you know the location where the motor is mounted check for the motor temperature, if it is becoming unusually hot, you can burn out the motor.
I prefer the Singer. I've sewn on both and it sews much faster, which you will enjoy after you've put in a few hundred hours (sometimes less) sewing seams. Plus, I think the Singer has a bit more power than this machine. Since it is a low cost machine make sure you buy it from a place that has a good exchange policy. Once you get a good one you should be good to go. Some have had some bad one straight out of the box, which is to be expected for such a low cost machine. Quality control has to suffer to offer it at that low of a price. If you are in the USA Walmart has an excellent extended warranty program. I've used it on a Brother machine I bought there. It sat in the box for over a year. When I finally got it out and sewed on it then it failed. UPS picked up my machine and they offered complete status tracking online. It was back in about a week in working order.
Lol. Im at Walmart thinking st371hd buying one. Your honest unbiased review. Maybe this machine isn't for me. Whats your honest opinion of the hd6800c singer?
I’ve been trying to decide between the brother and singer heavy duty sewing machine, and this video has helped me decide on the singer. All the articles online about the singer machine say that the speed is hard to control, is that true in your experience?
I always thought that thicker the fabric was (jean, leather...), lightest the upper thread tension had to be... You said the opposite and we didn't see the back stiches so I still don't know what is right...
Yes, the thicker the fabric requires more tension. You can do a test by starting with thicker fabrics then going to very thin fabric and you will see it requires loosening the tension.
@@kevinsews Hi Kevin, Thank you for letting me know, I have only computerized Brother machines with the DC motors, so full power all the time, and the Brother strong and tough machine you tested sounded like it was struggling a whole lot and hard to control the speed, I have many mechanical machines and they all work like this, some better ( Bernina ) ( Pfaff ). I know the price difference between Mechanical and Computerized is much less than it used to be, so if I could only have one machine it would be Computerized. Best to you Kevin.
No problem! It was thread correctly. The V69 is thick, so that is why it looked a bit strange in the video. I noticed that too when I was editing it and had to take a second look to ensure it was indeed correct .
soy de Ecuador yo compré esta maquina y nunca pude coser jean, y empezó a tener problemas a los 7 meses de uso, nose si es publicidad engañosa o vino con desperfectos desde el almacen :/
Estoy de acuerdo en que son engañosas. Busque una vieja máquina clásica con un motor externo. Todos son de metal y manejarán los vaqueros de costura con facilidad.
2010stoof That's because all of the Singer Heavy Duty models have an aluminum frame even though the outside casing is plastic. The Brother machine is most likely 99% plastic inside and out. The motor may be pretty small in comparison too. The Singer Heavy Duty is less expensive probably. I think they go for about $160-$189 and are pretty dependable. All of the Singer Heavy Duty machines are the same - the higher model numbers just indicate extra stitches, but everything else is identical.
I have watched most of your videos and very much appreciate your honesty. I am looking for a really strong sewing machine for home use of heavy fabrics. Mostly canvas and denim repair. A used industrial Juki is basically what it boils down to. Do you agree?
Hello ! For leather take teflon foot ! It’s perfect ! No zig-zag ! I do not understand ! I have olso this Brather ! I had sawing leather after this video ! I had no problem! Excuse this write, I'm not English ! And absolutly departer hobby sewing!
Hi, Thank you for your video. My mom passed and my sister decided to take possession of her 1970's Singer Stylist 534, that's fine she can keep it I purchased an identical machine yesterday and will commence my sewing hobby. What's your honest opinion on a machine like this.. I purchased the machine and it comes with a wood cabinet that tucks away inside for 160 dollars used a few times and was stored for many years. I bought it on ebay. Thank you so much for your consideration.
It is a good machine for the price range. You should be able to sew a pair of jeans with it and possibly some canvas and some nylon strapping depending on their thicknesses.
Rotary Cutter and a self healing mat; seam rippers (I buy 20 at a time); wash away wonder tape (search for it on youtube); wonder clips and a variety of needles of different sizes and types.
That leather is too thick for that machine. It might be able to sew through one layer but not two. Even if you did use a size 18 needle, the motor is not strong enough, so the needle won't be able to penetrate the layers.
That was the whole purpose of the test. Some machines I have tested passed this test. Now I would not suggest using any domestic sewing machine to see leather on a regular basis.
Uh yeah - that is the whole point. I make these videos to show people the limits of these machines that are labeled as "Heavy Duty". This naming conviction confuses people, so that is the purpose of making these.
It depends. Yes, it would work, but if you can spend a bit more I would look at the Singer 9960. It has more modern features even though it has been on the market for around 8 years now. I've had mine for 4 years and it has been a great machine.
@@kevinsews Thank you so much! i was hesitating buying singer cause heard they are not good anymore. I'm advance sewer but just use industrial so I have no experience. I want to get a nice, mid-range machine for my mom. I though about this one cause she wants to sew all materials including denim.
@@Dave-vf5qj I sew on indurials all day long, so I know what you mean. The 9960 has got a very good reputation. For example, Darlene Cahill, who is on HSN, used her 9960 daily for 3 years and it finally broke down (at least she thought it did) and it ended up being a very minor fix she did herself. She said she loves that machine.
maybe I'm just spoiled from using an industrial Juki machine at work every day but I don't see how any home machine can be considered strong or heavy duty
Yes, I hear you. I use industrial machines daily. The biggest difference to me is an industrial serger vs any domestic serger (including the top of the line Babylock) . The stitch quality is just that much better over long seams.
The motor sounds strained and it seems like a hunk of plastic. I think you could have tried a zigzag stitch on the knits to see the results. I did not care for this Brother at all. Just my opinion.
You used the wrong presser foot when sewing the leather and the thread was to heavy. All purpose polyester thread works best with a 110/18 leather needle and a walking foot works best, but I understand this machine does not come with one. You would need to purchase it separately.
I was simple testing the power of the machine and using the exact thread I use to successfully used on other domestic machines. Polyester thread isn’t used on leather due to the acid eating through it over time. That is why nylon thread is used when sewing leathers. I’ve demonstrated this many times is classes over the years. So those following along do not use polyester thread on leathers; use nylon or bonded nylon threads.
It is really hard for them to design a machine that can handle everything you throw at it. That is way there are so many industrial machines they make for one specific task.
@@kevinsews industrial machines have the power and then add a wheel you will sew leather. When I started in the hosiery over lockers I used the mechanics just changed the cams to suit the fabric, no home machine can do the job of an industrial one.
@@kevinsews I love industrial machines Keven, but I think they have taken them a bit to far with some industrial machines today you don’t need skills, you just have to be able to lay the fabric out in front of the machine and every thing else is done for the operative, all the joy has been taken away,
My husband just bought me this machine for Christmas and I hope I can learn. I used to sew blue jeans at Levi Strauss back in the 90s but I know nothing about home sewing machines. We no longer have sewing factories anywhere around Tennessee that I know of.
It is nothing like the industrial machines you used in your factory. However, it is a good domestic machine. Hopefully, you will bond with it. It will be helpful that you have some experience sewing though vs a newbie that has zero experience.
What number is the overcasting foot for this machine does it come with the machine thank you
It doesn't come with one. Here is an adjustable one: www.sewingpartsonline.com/products/viking-adjustable-blindhem-foot-412976645
I have this machine and my motor doesn’t struggle like this one. Not at all. I wonder if this is just a lemon?
So you can sew 4 oz leather without it struggling?
Very interesting, I learned a lot 🪡🧵👍🏼🙋🏼♀️
You’re welcome!
Yes this is the type foot my Janone 9000 has that keeps the foot level button. Watching a marathon of your videos today :) Will like and comment hope that helps
Thank you! I hope my videos are helpful.
What setting did you set for the knit ? I can’t figure what settings to put mine in
Stretch Stitch setting.
I was looking at the Singer HD 4432 but started hearing a lot of complaints about the pedal being too sensitive and making it hard to control it / make it go slower without modifying it. Do you know if the pedal on the ST371HD provides better control?
I was able to slow mine down. See this video: th-cam.com/video/Kgxf2OXfxro/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TIoyCe4Bm7Rz59SZ Be aware that some of the machines don't ship with this pedal.
@@kevinsews Thanks, I did see that video earlier but I have no idea what kind of pedal my country has for it unfortunately :( Would rather not to have to open up the pedal in any case, so that's why I was wondering about whether the ST371HD maybe could be a little better in that aspect at least
@@Nayelianne It doesn't take off like the Singer Heavy Duty machines do.
Thank you very much for the responses
Like your testing videos. Also appreciate that you share what kind of thread you use. Based on your past videos, I was able to pick up a Kenmore 52 tank with a 1.2 amp motor.
Thank you Mark! That sounds like a great machine to sew some of the tougher fabrics.
That'll do the job! Those old "tanks" are VERY strong, especially with 1.2 amps. Brother makes excellent machines for regular sewing and quilting, but the best vintage Kenmores will go through almost anything. I'm one of many who collect vintage "Kennies"; sometimes we (fondly) call them Boat Anchors. 😁
Hello, how do I lock stitch on brother st371HD?
Press the backstitch button?
I've watched so many comparison videos I'm dizzy. I have both the Brother 371HD and the Singer SD4452. I sew thick fabrics and I love that the presser foot on the brother goes higher than the Singer. The Brother also has some other features I like, but I won't use all those stitches. I don't know where to set the settings for normal sewing. The Singer seems simpler. The Brother is quieter. I'm just so confused... HELP... What Should I choose??? I can't keep them both!
I personally prefer the Singer Heavy Duty based on my on experience with both machines.
Hi Kevin, I wonder if you are using a 110V socket... here in Europe I have the same machine plugged into a 230V socket and it goes way easier than in this video - do you think it could be due to the voltage difference? Or is that irrelevant for these machines? I'm not an electrician, so I don't know for sure, but something tells me that it's the 110V that makes this seem to struggle. But I might be totally wrong, what do you think?
I was using some 40+ year old pair Levi's jeans that are extremely dense. I have been using them from the very beginning on all of my domestic sewing machine test in order to keep the testing equal. Just about all machines will hem the thinner jeans of today.
brother comes with a “walking” adapter?
Just like all domestic machines it is a bolt on version.
Hi, I have a new Husqvarna/Viking Jade 20 and cannot sew over a thick cotton/fusible backing seam with regular foot. I need to give the foot some help by straightening the back out with a wedge but that doesn't always work. I'm tired of it. Walking foot works OK for the thicker seams but then I'm stuck with just doing a straight stitch. Would you recommend this machine or a Singer? I'm sewing primarily with cotton and some cotton backing or with thin fusible interfacing would probably never use denim or leather on my projects. Thanks!
The Singer Heavy Duty machines and more powerful than this machine.
I bought one of these machines recently and I still haven't figured out how to make it go slow. Maybe I just haven't mastered the foot pedal but I feel like even with the smallest pressure it just shoots through the fabric a zillion stitches per second. So I would really really appreciate it if you could explain how you can make it go so slow??
See if my video on slowing down the Singer machine works for you: th-cam.com/video/Kgxf2OXfxro/w-d-xo.html
If you had to choose Singer heavy duty or brother st371 which one would you choose?
I've used the Singer Heavy Duty Series and I can recommend it. Maybe somebody that owns the Brother model can respond with their opinion.
@@kevinsews I've been using a 1956 White for over forty years, so I'm spoiled when it comes to heavy duty. But I think some of the Brother HD features make it annoying in general. What I've found: The lighting is awful, the foot pedal cord is about eight inches too short to be comfortably placed anywhere near your foot without moving the sewing machine to the edge of the table, the adjustment dials do not adjust smoothly, etc. etc. etc. I noticed you use an external spindle, and I fully expect the plastic one on the machine to break in the next six months. Probably good for basic sewing, but I would hate to make adjustments on a regular basis.
@@lucygray6162 As they say, they don't make them like they use to. I think they believe most people are just going to use the machine once a year and them throw it into the closest.
Singer heavy duty machines work great
What size needle comes in the machine? Do you know? I know the extras come with it. I can’t get the needle out! I loosened it all the way and pulled and pulled. I’m working on a denim and flannel rag quilt.
If I remember correctly it was a size 14.
Wow, this is so cool that you make such informative videos on sewing!!!! This just came up in my feed randomly and I am so glad it did! I appreciate your knowledge!
I have only hand sewn my whole life, but I need a machine for denim. Which machine would you recommend for a beginner who is in need of a machine that is novice friendly and is strong enough to use on denim and leather?
Thank you for all of the expertise you impart! It is so cool that you do! Have a great day and stay well!
Jennifer Rose Rocks what is your budget?
Around $300.00 tops? I was considering the Singer 4432. It looks like most sewing machines are sold out everywhere.
Jennifer Rose Rocks Take a look at the Janome HD1000. Be advised that any domestic machine is not designed to sew very thick leather. If that is something you plan on sewing often I would take take a look at an older all metal machine.
Very cool Kevin!!! Will do!!! I mainly need it for denim projects, so I will check out the Janome. Do you have any thoughts on the Singer 4432?
If not no worries! I appreciate your speedy response! Please stay well! You are awesome!
Jennifer Rose Rocks I have Several of the Singer Heavy Duty machines and they have all been great for me. Just be aware that I know how to fix them if the timing goes off, etc...
Como hago Ziggy Zagreb por favor, gracias
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I often sew heavy stretch twill and my Singer 6180 is constantly breaking needles. Would you recommend this or the Singer 4423 (the manual states it also has a stretch setting)? The denim result looks similar, but the bobbin thread on this knit is just horrible. I was actually looking at the Singer 9960, but I'm not convinced it'll do as well for heavy trenchcoats and denim clothes.
Any advice is most welcome!
Yes, it has a stretch stitch. The Singer 9960 is a great machine. For heavy duty materials is would look at the Sailrite machine or one of the generic versions offered for less money by other mfgs.
@@kevinsews thanks for your reply. What qualifies as heavy duty? I want to sew some jeans, denim vests and canvas/linen coats, but also light weight blouses, but not upholstery or anything like that. Strangely enough, there's little to offer here in the Netherlands in the heavy duty market. I'm also looking at quilting, for which the 9960 is probably the best, but I don't want to ruin it on the jeans. The denim I'm looking at is 360g/m2 or 10oz/yd2. Any way you can advise me?
@@DutchThroat hello Jan I also live in holland and am also looking for one for the same reasons as you. Seeing that your comment is a year old, I am wondering what you bought and if it is recommended. Hopefully you read this comment.
@@monkey_ish4117 Shortly after I bought a Singer QS 9960. It's not built for power though. I've even created a few quilts, which I never imagined I'd do but that's where this machine shines. I love the ease of use and wide array of accessories. The old machines are collecting dust now.
@@DutchThroat hartelijk bedank voor het reply ( a million thanks for your reply). I will have to keep on looking then, I'm planning on making hoodies, shirts and jeans (maybe chinos) so I will need a heavy one.
Great video! 👍👍👍
Never thought of hammering thick denim hem.
Also didn't know that some machine doesn't take size 18 thick needle like this Brother & that needle size 16 eye was too small for that leather but amazing that it worked well for the jean hem (on the leather, was the fabric feeder down?)
Useful demo for stretch fabric too as I've never sewn stretch fabric so it was so helpful as to needle & thread info.
I considered buying this Brother last year because of the "tough" label .... going to check if you tested the Singer Heavy Duty, the mechanical AND computerized that i'm considering.
I am glad to hear this information was helpful to you.
Thanks alot for the tutorial.
My pleasure!
Great review, Kevin. One of my three machines is the Singer Heavy Duty 4423. It's a pretty tough workhorse. I just wish the exterior wasn't plastic, but that's the nature of today's construction of the home sewing machines. Do you have any opinion on Janome brand (formerly New Home)?
Janome makes some great machines.
@@peteruveges1976 I would go with the Singer Classic offered at Walmart if you are in the USA. Otherwise, I would go with any model other than the 4411 because it is missing the needle threaded and a couple of other features included with the other machines - like extra feet, etc...
I have singer 4452 heavy duty and I am pretty happy with it's performance... so far
I just saw a vid on this stitching 10 layers of both denim & leather! I heard that the threading needs to be redone on both top and bottom if changing the tension. Oh, and the thread being placed on the wire/pin sticking out by the bobbin to prevent bundling of thread. Any thing's you do differently now?
Nope! I was using bonded nylon, which is a requirement when sewing leather. That is what caused the problem. Using standard clothing thread it will sew the leather, but that is useless since the leather will eventually eat through the thread.
That is a not good humming sound coming from the motor of the machine especially when going through the thick part of the jeans hem. That means that the motor are not powerful enough to provide the necessary torque to run the machine. It will potentially burn the motor. If you know the location where the motor is mounted check for the motor temperature, if it is becoming unusually hot, you can burn out the motor.
Thanks for watching! The motor wasn't hot at all.
am in the market for heavy duty home sewing machine... is this better and stronger than the SInger 4452?
I prefer the Singer. I've sewn on both and it sews much faster, which you will enjoy after you've put in a few hundred hours (sometimes less) sewing seams. Plus, I think the Singer has a bit more power than this machine. Since it is a low cost machine make sure you buy it from a place that has a good exchange policy. Once you get a good one you should be good to go. Some have had some bad one straight out of the box, which is to be expected for such a low cost machine. Quality control has to suffer to offer it at that low of a price. If you are in the USA Walmart has an excellent extended warranty program. I've used it on a Brother machine I bought there. It sat in the box for over a year. When I finally got it out and sewed on it then it failed. UPS picked up my machine and they offered complete status tracking online. It was back in about a week in working order.
@@kevinsews Thank you for the very helpful tip. Am actually thinking to get it from Amazon. I'll check the price on Walmart as well.
Lol. Im at Walmart thinking st371hd buying one. Your honest unbiased review. Maybe this machine isn't for me. Whats your honest opinion of the hd6800c singer?
Singer HD6800C.
@@kevinsews yeah singer hd6800c sewing machine.
What are your thoughts on the BROTHER (no electronics) H537ST machine? It's a basic machine with a good compliment of varied sewing stitches.
I've never seen that machine, so I can't really comment.
Brother ST371HD vs Janome 423S vs Singer Heavy Duty , to Jeans Hem, Leather
which is better how to decide between one or the other?
Haven't used the Janome you listed, of the other two I like the Singer machine the best when it comes to power.
Awesome video! Very informative! Subscriber.
Thank you!
I’ve been trying to decide between the brother and singer heavy duty sewing machine, and this video has helped me decide on the singer. All the articles online about the singer machine say that the speed is hard to control, is that true in your experience?
Look at my video that shows how to slow down the speed.
I hate the singer
I always thought that thicker the fabric was (jean, leather...), lightest the upper thread tension had to be... You said the opposite and we didn't see the back stiches so I still don't know what is right...
Yes, the thicker the fabric requires more tension. You can do a test by starting with thicker fabrics then going to very thin fabric and you will see it requires loosening the tension.
On the leather, the needle thread was wrapped around the needle and not threaded correctly.
I corrected that but sadly it didn't make a bit of difference with the results.
@@kevinsews Hi Kevin, Thank you for letting me know, I have only computerized Brother machines with the DC motors, so full power all the time, and the Brother strong and tough machine you tested sounded like it was struggling a whole lot and hard to control the speed, I have many mechanical machines and they all work like this, some better ( Bernina ) ( Pfaff ). I know the price difference between Mechanical and Computerized is much less than it used to be, so if I could only have one machine it would be Computerized.
Best to you Kevin.
Estoy en México no se Inglés por favor en español me interesa
¿Puedes intentar usar la opción CC?
Kevin can you tell me the color gold you used on the jeans thread thanks
It is a Levi's Gold thread I bought from my industrial dealer a few years ago. Here is one on Amazon that is basically the same color. amzn.to/2q3a2nm
Respectfully, I thought the needle didn't seem to be threaded correctly ahead of the leather test?
No problem! It was thread correctly. The V69 is thick, so that is why it looked a bit strange in the video. I noticed that too when I was editing it and had to take a second look to ensure it was indeed correct .
Thank you for this video. Is the machine noisy?
It is just average compared to other machines I own.
soy de Ecuador yo compré esta maquina y nunca pude coser jean, y empezó a tener problemas a los 7 meses de uso, nose si es publicidad engañosa o vino con desperfectos desde el almacen :/
Estoy de acuerdo en que son engañosas. Busque una vieja máquina clásica con un motor externo. Todos son de metal y manejarán los vaqueros de costura con facilidad.
wow the singer heavy duty kicked that things butt. lol
Yes, it did.
2010stoof That's because all of the Singer Heavy Duty models have an aluminum frame even though the outside casing is plastic. The Brother machine is most likely 99% plastic inside and out. The motor may be pretty small in comparison too. The Singer Heavy Duty is less expensive probably. I think they go for about $160-$189 and are pretty dependable. All of the Singer Heavy Duty machines are the same - the higher model numbers just indicate extra stitches, but everything else is identical.
I want one! sold out due to CV19 !
That seems to be a common problem right now.
I have watched most of your videos and very much appreciate your honesty. I am looking for a really strong sewing machine for home use of heavy fabrics. Mostly canvas and denim repair. A used industrial Juki is basically what it boils down to. Do you agree?
Dianna A Yes, I agree.
Also when the lower bobin thread gets tangled at it DOES A LOT is it easy to disasemble the bobbin compartment?
Hello ! For leather take teflon foot ! It’s perfect ! No zig-zag ! I do not understand ! I have olso this Brather ! I had sawing leather after this video ! I had no problem! Excuse this write, I'm not English ! And absolutly departer hobby sewing!
Thanks for posting your tips.
Thanks for the review
I want to buy one , do you recommend this model for me?
It is a decent machine. I personally prefer the Singer Heavy Duty because it has the pressure foot adjustment feature.
Thanks for testing the leather. Looking for a machine to sew patches for our riding group...looks like this one isn't the one.
My pleasure!
Hi, Thank you for your video. My mom passed and my sister decided to take possession of her 1970's Singer Stylist 534, that's fine she can keep it I purchased an identical machine yesterday and will commence my sewing hobby. What's your honest opinion on a machine like this.. I purchased the machine and it comes with a wood cabinet that tucks away inside for 160 dollars used a few times and was stored for many years. I bought it on ebay. Thank you so much for your consideration.
I am a beginner what top 5 or ten tools are a must have for sewing?
I'm going to have a Kevin sews marathon watch Sunday!
It is a good machine for the price range. You should be able to sew a pair of jeans with it and possibly some canvas and some nylon strapping depending on their thicknesses.
Rotary Cutter and a self healing mat; seam rippers (I buy 20 at a time); wash away wonder tape (search for it on youtube); wonder clips and a variety of needles of different sizes and types.
Thank you for the info Kevin.
That leather is too thick for that machine. It might be able to sew through one layer but not two. Even if you did use a size 18 needle, the motor is not strong enough, so the needle won't be able to penetrate the layers.
That was the whole purpose of the test. Some machines I have tested passed this test. Now I would not suggest using any domestic sewing machine to see leather on a regular basis.
You overforcing this machine you post to help crossing the seam after all that that is good muchine its
Uh yeah - that is the whole point. I make these videos to show people the limits of these machines that are labeled as "Heavy Duty". This naming conviction confuses people, so that is the purpose of making these.
Hello, do you think this is a good machine for a beginner?
It depends. Yes, it would work, but if you can spend a bit more I would look at the Singer 9960. It has more modern features even though it has been on the market for around 8 years now. I've had mine for 4 years and it has been a great machine.
@@kevinsews Thank you so much! i was hesitating buying singer cause heard they are not good anymore. I'm advance sewer but just use industrial so I have no experience. I want to get a nice, mid-range machine for my mom. I though about this one cause she wants to sew all materials including denim.
@@Dave-vf5qj I sew on indurials all day long, so I know what you mean. The 9960 has got a very good reputation. For example, Darlene Cahill, who is on HSN, used her 9960 daily for 3 years and it finally broke down (at least she thought it did) and it ended up being a very minor fix she did herself. She said she loves that machine.
@@kevinsews thank you so much! I will check it out! 😊
@@Dave-vf5qj You're welcome!
maybe I'm just spoiled from using an industrial Juki machine at work every day but I don't see how any home machine can be considered strong or heavy duty
Yes, I hear you. I use industrial machines daily. The biggest difference to me is an industrial serger vs any domestic serger (including the top of the line Babylock) . The stitch quality is just that much better over long seams.
I drive an 18 wheeler every day, I don't see how any pick-up truck can be considered strong or heavy duty.
@@jasonhamm9889 Exactly! I guess they added .25 amps to the motor then compared to the machines in this price range they decided to call it Tough. LOL
Have you tried the other feet that comes with this machine?
No, I am sorry, but this was the only time I've used this machine.
I do not like the sound of the machine. It seems to struggle to get up and get moving!
Yeah, I agree.
The motor sounds strained and it seems like a hunk of plastic. I think you could have tried a zigzag stitch on the knits to see the results. I did not care for this Brother at all. Just my opinion.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
You used the wrong presser foot when sewing the leather and the thread was to heavy. All purpose polyester thread works best with a 110/18 leather needle and a walking foot works best, but I understand this machine does not come with one. You would need to purchase it separately.
I was simple testing the power of the machine and using the exact thread I use to successfully used on other domestic machines. Polyester thread isn’t used on leather due to the acid eating through it over time. That is why nylon thread is used when sewing leathers. I’ve demonstrated this many times is classes over the years. So those following along do not use polyester thread on leathers; use nylon or bonded nylon threads.
You use a #16 needle to sew leather, then blame the machine? Really?
That is correct. A size 16 Leather Needle. That was the largest this machine would support. I tried a size 18 and it wouldn't fit.
Brother needs to go back to the drawing board.
It is really hard for them to design a machine that can handle everything you throw at it. That is way there are so many industrial machines they make for one specific task.
@@kevinsews industrial machines have the power and then add a wheel you will sew leather. When I started in the hosiery over lockers I used the mechanics just changed the cams to suit the fabric, no home machine can do the job of an industrial one.
@@geraldinemurch2039 I use industrial machines daily and I do agree with you.
@@kevinsews I love industrial machines Keven, but I think they have taken them a bit to far with some industrial machines today you don’t need skills, you just have to be able to lay the fabric out in front of the machine and every thing else is done for the operative, all the joy has been taken away,