I actually don't mind the extra history add-on for Hydra. The original concept of what the Red Skull and the SHIELD/Hydra modern-day were all about is still the same and not messed with. You can cut it right up to Hydra forgetting about it's original purpose and become what it was in the last one hundred years.
TJ Jordan Although Pierce was more interested in a military takeover, I suspect that Whitehall knew more about the Terrigen crystals and the kree fortress than people thought he did. It's possible that he knew that the temple was designed to give inhuman powers but also thought the temple would enhance the effect like what happened when daisy dumped the crystals into the ocean. There is also the myth of the missing spanish soldiers simmons mentioned in 2x09. it is similar to the information about hive and the portal to his planet prison, and a helmet similar to those worn by spanish soldiers in the 17th century was found by jemma in the no fly zone.
To a degree yes. Malick's faction is more fanatical, whereas Alexander Pearce from Captain America Civil War, or the Red Skull would be closer to a Templar from AC.
I love that Hydra has been trying to get someone back for thousands of years, and both Fitz and Simmons figured it out individually starting with zero history, knowledge, or background. And Simmons had almost nothing to work with on the other planet. Wow, hydra is incompetent.
It helps when they have the right resources (a guy to keep Simmons alive long enough, an Asgardian who has knowledge about portals and how they work, and an Inhuman who can use vibrations to open said portal).
@@XxFierxX they are enhanced, so theyd most likely beat him in close quarters... but theres so much more to being a soldier than that. Ward can literally do anything... defuse bombs, perform night jumps into drop zones under heavy fire, lead men, follow orders to the letter, snipe ppl from 2000 yards away, take down assassins in hand to hand, speak in multiple languages, infiltrate, sabotage... his abilities in these areas are very credentialed and respected
T'Challa The Black Panther yeah the winter soldier can do literally all those things too. Which makes it better considering Ward can do all those in the first place, he’s so similar to him that way
I remember when I first time see Hydra in “Captain America” it was surprise it was portrayed as Nazi organisation because in comics Hydra is very ancient but OK perhaps MCU is happening on different Earth with another variant of history. And that scene finally revealed what was missing till that point and that MCU haven’t derived much from Comics.
Spoiler... At 1:57 the music that plays is the “song” that Izel sings at the end of season 6 to open the portal with the monoliths. I just thought it was a song she sang for that episode, I had no idea that it was a callback to this scene and the orchestration used when Malick pulled the piece of monolith out. I love the MCU for its continuity, but I didn’t realize that AoS was so good at maintaining it too!
Al Gordo no. First, this is closer to first 3 films. Second, they are both inspired by the 1968 movie 2001: A space odyssey ( which featured the song that daisy was named after, and talks about an ancient rock portal and aliens appearing on earth in prehistoric times
The Ancient Inhuman is almost certainly "The unspoken" his background fits the one described here perfectly! The only difference is that The Unspoken didn't have to possess bodies but he shift into any form he wanted
I still wonder how Malick found out that shield brought someone back and to top that off he knew it was Simmons. Unless they had cameras discreetly placed around the area, how could he have known
Why does Ward care? Malick sent men to kill him. Based on Ward's experience, he should have killed Malick without question. This scene would be like if Ward started working with Jemma after what happened in Season 2.
Man. Such possibilities in this one scene. Especially with Grant. I was hoping he was going to become Taskmaster. Instead we got that BS black widow movie version. If you look at the second sigil, that is reminiscent of Taskmasters' shield. Also. I know Taskmaster is supposed to be Anthony Masters. But who is to say that at some point Grant doesn't go through the T.A.H.I.T.I program by Nick Fury. Warren said it himself, he wanted him dead but then saw him as an asset after seeing what he can do. After a period of time, Anthony remembers who he is and becomes a freelancer and tries to build his own version of hydra, much like what he was doing earlier this season. To destroy Shield and get revenge on the people that took everything from him.
"You see Ron there, in his nice suit? he's not here because he worships some...space octopus." No. he's here because he has mouths to feed at home." - Nathaniel Malick - Season 7
hydra was originally a cult worshipping hive. then red skull decided to change that by making sure HE was the one they should worship by finding the tesseract so he can be God of the new world. since then, hydra has been split into two factions. one who worship hive like malick and one who loyal with red skull like the ones within shield, alexander pierce, whitehall, etc
honestly an organization loyal to what itself is stupid yelling hail hydra that shit doesnt make goodamn sense i mean come on whats an organization without someone leading u cant have an organization without a leader i have more respect for the old hydra than i do with red skulls faction its a joke hail hydra yea hail this shows middle finger dont get me wrong i love hydras leaders zemo 1 and zemo 2 father and son sure sure baron wolfgang von strucker nice name love the old german name madame hydra arnolm zola but when they all yell hail hydra it justs sounds stupid retarded i mean heres what hydra should be like one leader have a second in command than take over if that leader dies or if u think u should rule i mean its stupid and complicated to serve an organization without a leader old hydra made more sense
@@matthewbosco9190 Red Skull was a highranking member of Hydra, but he himself used the organisation to try and take over the world with the "help" of the Nazis. Wheater he wanted to bring back their "leader" or whatever, is unknown. But most people whoe where Hydra inside Shield came from Red Skull's faction of "schooling".
I'm not really a fan of the concept of HYDRA being a cult over thousands of years old. I liked the WWII concept better; a branch in the Nazi science division that severed ties to the Third Reich because it believed it could do better than the Nazis did. Remember, the Nazis, the Thule Society, they were into some wicked stuff to achieve ultimate power; both through science and through sorcery. HYDRA, as the science division, would have experimented not only with advanced weaponry, but with alien technology and with objects supposedly imbued with supernatural power like they believed the Tesseract was. I do like the reveal of the HYDRA symbol in the picture, though. If it had been the symbol of a peace keeping task force that was allied with SHIELD for the longest time (convincing Hirohito to surrender the war, preventing all out war during the Cold War, causing the fall of Communism in the Soviet Union, cleaning up Chernobyl, tearing down the Berlin Wall, etc) but then Fitz and Simmons reveal the symbol upside down and inverted to be the symbol of HYDRA.
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It is getting scarier when Simmon shows the pictures one by one
Exactly this
I just realized after rewatching the movie that Gideon Malick was on the World Security Council in Avengers
woww I was thinking that when I was watching it like 6 hours ago.
Hydra controls everything
so was Alexander Pierce, who has the same clearance level as Nick Fury, who was also working for Hydra.
If memory serves, he was the one who ordered to launch the nuke at New York.
Unversed 333 I have never realized that until this very moment...🤯🤯🤯
Captain America is gonna be pissed when he finds out hydra was older organisation
Time traveling-Cap would be even more pissed that he pull a 'Deadpool' and kill in its infancy.
There's something about ward pointing his gun that is awesome
I actually don't mind the extra history add-on for Hydra. The original concept of what the Red Skull and the SHIELD/Hydra modern-day were all about is still the same and not messed with. You can cut it right up to Hydra forgetting about it's original purpose and become what it was in the last one hundred years.
+Taylor Huston (Soundkiller) I am like 99% sure the inhuman is The Unspoken
+demigod2324 hive
+demigod2324 no it's Hive who was called satin in ancient times
TJ Jordan Although Pierce was more interested in a military takeover, I suspect that Whitehall knew more about the Terrigen crystals and the kree fortress than people thought he did. It's possible that he knew that the temple was designed to give inhuman powers but also thought the temple would enhance the effect like what happened when daisy dumped the crystals into the ocean. There is also the myth of the missing spanish soldiers simmons mentioned in 2x09. it is similar to the information about hive and the portal to his planet prison, and a helmet similar to those worn by spanish soldiers in the 17th century was found by jemma in the no fly zone.
I love that Agent Ward becomes a Head of Hydra and now he has finally grown into a Leader
The shows biggest mistake was having him killed
I also love how him and Garrett saw themselves as 'not true believerd' yet Ward did in fact become a true believer in the end
"you cut through them like cake"
any other actor saying that line would just be ripping off GoT, but Powers Booth made it his own.
RIP Powers Booth
Essentially, HYDRA are like the templars from assassin's creed.
Essentially yes
Shield also dates back to Ancient Egypt when it was called the Brotherhood of the Shield
Meybe they are
To a degree yes. Malick's faction is more fanatical, whereas Alexander Pearce from Captain America Civil War, or the Red Skull would be closer to a Templar from AC.
I love that Hydra has been trying to get someone back for thousands of years, and both Fitz and Simmons figured it out individually starting with zero history, knowledge, or background. And Simmons had almost nothing to work with on the other planet. Wow, hydra is incompetent.
Son0fHobs no their not. You underestimate the minds of shield. They are really smart
@@user-oz2ws8dh9s no they arent
It helps when they have the right resources (a guy to keep Simmons alive long enough, an Asgardian who has knowledge about portals and how they work, and an Inhuman who can use vibrations to open said portal).
Pro tip : watch series on flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Coleman Augustine yup, been watching on Flixzone for months myself :)
"The best soldier Hydra ever made."
Damn right I'm gonna miss Grant Ward
What about the Winter soldiers? Any of them could kick Wards ass
@@XxFierxX they are enhanced, so theyd most likely beat him in close quarters... but theres so much more to being a soldier than that.
Ward can literally do anything... defuse bombs, perform night jumps into drop zones under heavy fire, lead men, follow orders to the letter, snipe ppl from 2000 yards away, take down assassins in hand to hand, speak in multiple languages, infiltrate, sabotage... his abilities in these areas are very credentialed and respected
StarWarFan Imagine Ward as a Winter Soldier. He’d be a deadly Winter Soldier.
T'Challa The Black Panther yeah the winter soldier can do literally all those things too. Which makes it better considering Ward can do all those in the first place, he’s so similar to him that way
Hydra isn't gone they always come back
Indeed. spoilers for season 5 if you haven't seen it. They're back!
anthony n yea they ain’t gone
Yeah yeah, year old comment, but: Cut off one head, two more shall take it’s place.
Omar Harris I thought it was an arm
Just like Powers. RIP
I remember when I first time see Hydra in “Captain America” it was surprise it was portrayed as Nazi organisation because in comics Hydra is very ancient but OK perhaps MCU is happening on different Earth with another variant of history. And that scene finally revealed what was missing till that point and that MCU haven’t derived much from Comics.
Spoiler...
At 1:57 the music that plays is the “song” that Izel sings at the end of season 6 to open the portal with the monoliths. I just thought it was a song she sang for that episode, I had no idea that it was a callback to this scene and the orchestration used when Malick pulled the piece of monolith out. I love the MCU for its continuity, but I didn’t realize that AoS was so good at maintaining it too!
Holy shit mind blown
The track is called Alien DNA and first appeared in S1 when it was revealed how Coulson came back from the dead.
Rewatching entire series now and I heard it in seasons 1 and 2. Lost my shit lol
It’s haunting when you’ve heard it in this season and again by Izel in Season 6.
Thank you for pointing that out
They should do a series about hydra origin
Gidion Malik was acc in the avengers. He was one of the council members
Came here to refresh my memories after watching first episode of "what if..."
Why do I get the feeling that this is how Bay and Paramount came up with the story for Transformers The Last Knight.
Al Gordo no. First, this is closer to first 3 films. Second, they are both inspired by the 1968 movie 2001: A space odyssey ( which featured the song that daisy was named after, and talks about an ancient rock portal and aliens appearing on earth in prehistoric times
The Ancient Inhuman is almost certainly "The unspoken" his background fits the one described here perfectly! The only difference is that The Unspoken didn't have to possess bodies but he shift into any form he wanted
+demigod2324 No it is Hive.
@@shanprothero6978 or alveus
Rest in Peace Powers Boothe
I still wonder how Malick found out that shield brought someone back and to top that off he knew it was Simmons. Unless they had cameras discreetly placed around the area, how could he have known
Dr. Andrew Garner (Lash) told him. He didn't know Malick was Hydra.
I'm pretty sure it was implied that Andrew told him
@@sahirmaan3879 Or It was Rosiland Price.
HAIL HYDRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My crazy fan theory about Gideon Malick (and his family tree): the Communist Red Skull Albert Malik.
After watching season 6... Is that Izel's voice when the monolith is shown? o.O
Why does Ward care? Malick sent men to kill him. Based on Ward's experience, he should have killed Malick without question. This scene would be like if Ward started working with Jemma after what happened in Season 2.
Curiosity and to find a way to still take down SHEILD
It was a mutual agreement until he saw Hive's shrine on Maveth. That was when he became a true believer
Hail Hydra
When learn a very deep history secret 3:51
First time i see grant ward with that jacket zipped up.
Later with that i watch the first episode of Jessica Jones
To beat hydra you must cut off the tail
Man. Such possibilities in this one scene. Especially with Grant. I was hoping he was going to become Taskmaster. Instead we got that BS black widow movie version. If you look at the second sigil, that is reminiscent of Taskmasters' shield. Also. I know Taskmaster is supposed to be Anthony Masters. But who is to say that at some point Grant doesn't go through the T.A.H.I.T.I program by Nick Fury. Warren said it himself, he wanted him dead but then saw him as an asset after seeing what he can do. After a period of time, Anthony remembers who he is and becomes a freelancer and tries to build his own version of hydra, much like what he was doing earlier this season. To destroy Shield and get revenge on the people that took everything from him.
all this just to bring a banished octopus
"You see Ron there, in his nice suit? he's not here because he worships some...space octopus." No. he's here because he has mouths to feed at home."
- Nathaniel Malick - Season 7
i dont get it so theres two hydra like old school and red skulls faction i mean im so confused
hydra was originally a cult worshipping hive. then red skull decided to change that by making sure HE was the one they should worship by finding the tesseract so he can be God of the new world. since then, hydra has been split into two factions. one who worship hive like malick and one who loyal with red skull like the ones within shield, alexander pierce, whitehall, etc
honestly an organization loyal to what itself is stupid yelling hail hydra that shit doesnt make goodamn sense i mean come on whats an organization without someone leading u cant have an organization without a leader i have more respect for the old hydra than i do with red skulls faction its a joke hail hydra yea hail this shows middle finger dont get me wrong i love hydras leaders zemo 1 and zemo 2 father and son sure sure baron wolfgang von strucker nice name love the old german name madame hydra arnolm zola but when they all yell hail hydra it justs sounds stupid retarded i mean heres what hydra should be like one leader have a second in command than take over if that leader dies or if u think u should rule i mean its stupid and complicated to serve an organization without a leader old hydra made more sense
@@matthewbosco9190 Red Skull was a highranking member of Hydra, but he himself used the organisation to try and take over the world with the "help" of the Nazis. Wheater he wanted to bring back their "leader" or whatever, is unknown. But most people whoe where Hydra inside Shield came from Red Skull's faction of "schooling".
Yeah Red Skull was a member of the original organisation but then created his own branch to further Nazi Germany's (And then his own) agenda
@@Mukation Two factions: one based around the dogma of faith and the other based around the science and world control.
Hydra is no hero. He’s a villain.
I'm not really a fan of the concept of HYDRA being a cult over thousands of years old. I liked the WWII concept better; a branch in the Nazi science division that severed ties to the Third Reich because it believed it could do better than the Nazis did. Remember, the Nazis, the Thule Society, they were into some wicked stuff to achieve ultimate power; both through science and through sorcery. HYDRA, as the science division, would have experimented not only with advanced weaponry, but with alien technology and with objects supposedly imbued with supernatural power like they believed the Tesseract was.
I do like the reveal of the HYDRA symbol in the picture, though. If it had been the symbol of a peace keeping task force that was allied with SHIELD for the longest time (convincing Hirohito to surrender the war, preventing all out war during the Cold War, causing the fall of Communism in the Soviet Union, cleaning up Chernobyl, tearing down the Berlin Wall, etc) but then Fitz and Simmons reveal the symbol upside down and inverted to be the symbol of HYDRA.
Death cult Hydra and Red Skull's Hydra are two completely different branches of the same organisation with vastly different aims.
Agents of SHIELD isn’t canon to MCU so HYDRA wasn’t founded cuz of an Inhuman in the movies
It is canon. Go cry about it
@@taegotkash it’s not it stop being canon after time travel because even how they do it is different
@@taegotkash bruh what’s yo problem? U cried while typing that kiddo
It is canon lol. cope
@@taegotkashwhat’s your problem
Hail Hydra
Id like to imagine that on their earth somewhere a conspiracy theorist exist that theorized all of this about hydras origins lol